Developing Safe Right Hand Technique for Bass Guitar
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2010
- A lesson on developing on safe and comfortable right hand technique for bass guitar. This is a follow up to my video looking at left hand technique.
• Developing Safe Left H...
My own problems with RS injury lead me to develop my concept of "neutral position," which I teach to my student in hopes that they don't have the same problems I did. Here are the basic ideas of the neutral position as it relates to the right hand that I covered in the video.
1. The shoulder holds up the arm
2. The elbow is above the bass (don't drop it behind the bass)
3. The forearm can rest against the bass for shoulder support.
4. The fingers of the right hand are curved and relaxed
5. The wrist is straight and relaxed.
6. The thumb is to the left of the first finger, and should only pivot side to side, not in front of the bass (this causes a bent, tense wrist)
10 years old and filmed on a potato yet still more informative and straight forward than 99% of the polished videos uploaded
Any one who makes a tutorial about how to not hurt yourself is a legend!
You still play bass so I consider this technique proven.
Still at it
9 years later, I was trying to find a way to lessen strains on my plucking fingers. I clicked, and realized, it's Adam Neely!
@SoyFranK and with facial hair
Adam why don't you make a new video on overall basic bass techniques? Rekindle the original bass guitar love, my man
So this is how you play _the lick_ for 5 hours straight...
@intioyarzun I would suggest watching this video again, because I never say "use floating thumb!" nor "don't rest the forearm!" I specifically recommend resting the forearm, and I never advocate any method over any other.
Also, "I never had any health problems," as a philosophy for technique isn't helpful. There are too many people I've known who have contracted RSI's after a career of telling themselves that for me to believe that anything besides straight and relaxed wrists is how to play.
FFS this video is 11 years old and THANK YOU Adam fo posting this
I've played guitar for 40+ years. I switched to bass 3 years ago.
When I was shopping for my first bass, I put a lot of emphasis on how comfortable the bass felt. How did it hang on me, where would my right hand/arm have to be, etc. I found a number of basses did not lend themselves well to keeping my hands/arms in a neutral position. They were great sounding and nice looking basses, but that wasn't as important as how it felt to play them.
When I played a Fender Jazz, it felt very natural. My right arm just laid on the body, keeping my wrist in a very neutral and relaxed position. Because of my budget, I settled on a Squier VM Jazz. I have enjoyed many hours of continuous playing without any fatigue. I can literally play all day and not have any issues.
Everybody is different so my choice may not suit others. If you are just starting out and looking for that first bass, do yourself a favor and give careful consideration to how the instrument feels.
I just got a Squier Jazz Bass for Christmas! I've been looking for a fatigue free way to fully reach the frets of the neck while plucking the strings with my right hand. I'm not sure if what Fender taught me (anchoring your thumb on either the pickups, the string that's not being played, or the edge of the white part) is the best way to go about it but it doesn't feel bad so far.
Old Adam's videos are golden
thanks, Adam from 12 years ago! this was super helpful. I’ve been watching your videos for years but just started teaching myself the bass and was pleasantly surprised to see this video pop up in my search for proper right hand technique
Dude. Thank you so much for posting this. I've been struggling through right wrist pain for the last 6 months and I just played for a solid 90 minutes pain free thanks to what I saw in this video. THANK YOU!!!
Might be totally doing this wrong but it just transfers the strain to my shoulders
Adam do you think you can do a video recapping some basic bass techniques for both hands, posture etc? Would be nice to get a redo
Thanks
You should redo this one mate...great video and great channel overall! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge :3
Greetings from Veracruz, Mexico...
10 years before I ever thought about playing bass, Adam Neely was making a tutorial I needed to watch to get started.
I obviously have a lot of catching up and practicing to do.
The basic theory of ergonomic movement in playing a musical instrument is very familiar to me as a congo player. Similar theory, but different instrument and different techniques...otherwise my bass slap would already be as good as my conga slap.
No more wasting time. I'm starting today.
New to bass and i've been trying to correct my form, and stumbled across this video today.. exactly 10 years after you posted it xD pretty crazy. Cool to see your hard work got you over a million subs, even some of your earliest content is still useful today!
Still a great video, I don't really get why people ask for a remake.
Just got a bass because Adams playing made me fall in love with the bass, and I am absolutely blown away at how comfortable playing can be doing this.
I am a guitar player and had a really bad and long lasting shoulder injury from playing guitar with a bad posture, my teacher didn't say anything about my posture, so I only realized I was hurting myself when it was already too late.
Now I discover Adams video, that perfectly covers how to play without pain.
Thank you!
I'm currently practicing more time than before, but I started to notice a little bit of pain on both wrists. I have been following this channel on an alt account for a while, but this is the fist time I have seen these safe technique videos and they are a blessing. Thank you.
thank you so much for this video. i'm a newbie and i start hurting a lot from my right wrist due to a very bent wrist just like you show NOT to do. i will first take some time to heal and then will switch to your technic. thanks again and cheers from France. will watch all your others video asap!
Hey Adam,
Decided to pick up a bit of bass playing and I have to say your videos do a fantastic job at explaining some of the fundamentals. Props
Thanks for an excellent overview of right hand position. This ergonomic approach really straightened me out!
9 years later, here I am. Just started trying out the bass and I needed someone to show me how to position my right hand.
Thank you so much for this. Although you only briefly covered it, you've answered a question I've been struggling to find clarity on.
2:20 specifically. I've recently been relearning alternate plucking + raking properly, and noticed that I curled my fingers in a lot during the alternate pluck exercises. Somebody online (a teacher) recommended that I should curl my fingers more, and I thought I was already doing it correctly by playing from a resting (neutral) hand position. Thanks!
After years of watching his newer videos I finally start playing actual bass and find this! :D
@meatyout Octaves/string skips are awkward at first, but like all things technique-wise, they can be made less awkward through practice. It won't happen overnight. I have made use of the thumb sometimes, however. Speed/precision also come from diligent practice.
I might suggest also working on "open palm" technique like guitarists use. This involves angling the arm/elbow to more of a 30/45 degree angle with the strings. This can be very effective as well for incorporating the thumb.
hello adam
Thank you! I'm trying to teach myself how to play and the right hand position is the main thing I'm having trouble with. This video helps a lot!
This advice is excellent. For much of my bass playing life I thought that my technique (which is identical to what you advise) was incorrect. I have never really been able to plant my thumb in one place (or on the pickup/lower strings) for very long, because unlike a lot of players I see my thumb doesn't bend to a 90 degree angle!
LOL, Adam! I've been following your current video's because they are so informative. But I'm also a bass player (somewhat) with a years long problem with my right hand position and no video helped me. This one surely did!
I really appreciate putting information in the description when possible, even though it's probably detrimental to views.
I've been having pain in my right hand when playing fast 16ths. I though it was because I got used to playing slower stuff but it turned out my posture was wrong! Thanks Adam!
Great explanation, good job and thanks. I just found your videos and really liked the ones i watched.
I've been playing like this for a while but not because RS injury (thankfully), because changing between techniques(finger, slap, tap etc.) is a lot easier and keeping the unused strings silent is easier(since i'm playing 6 stringed) with this technique. I was wondering if I'm doing right by radically changing my technique but thanks to you i approved myself.
Great job, keep it up!
As a guitarist who is new to practicing bass 'properly' this is very valuable!
Great video mate and added to favourites. I'm beginning to get pain in the joint between thumb and index finger due to poor technique. Being a guitar -> bass convert, when I first picked up the bass, I simply adopted the technique that I 'thought' was the accepted way of doing things. That was the thumb on pup method, and I therefore stretch as you illustrated. This has caused the pain so I'll need to start work on your technique, plus the floating/movable thumb...
i just searched 'right hand bass technique' and this is still the first video. love your videos man.
great lesson!!!
I wish I had seen this 20 years ago when I started.
this is a good video, i used to have let squash my elbow against the top of the bass and i got pain in my knuckles, now i use movable anchor with my elbow raised up straight. much more natural feeling.
These videos of been so helpful for me thank you so much
thanks for the tips man, just knowing that everyone plays differently is very open of you
Great video, more people need to be aware of the bent wrist thing... It prevents you from using all of your strength too and therefore limiting your dynamics!
The part about anchoring your thumb and pivoting it to gain access to the higher strings? ... I have never thought to try it before now! Thanks a lot!
Thanks for this, even years later.
Really good stuff. May I ask for more of an explanation in picking technique concerning keeping your fingers bent instead of straight. Thank you.
Hi Adam,
Thanks for this lesson and congrats for your work and talent.
I'm suffering from a light RSI in the right wrist (plucking hand...) so I'm trying to take in your technique...
My experience so far is:
+ I feel more relaxed
+ My wrist doesn't hurt
- it slows me down a lot
- I have problems playing octaves, especially when the lower string is involved. Would you suggest using the thumb?
- More generally, I have problems plucking the lower string with regularity
Any advice? Thx!
Yup. Because I am just another dumb guitarist switching to bass, this video actually helped me immensely, as I've sat through guitar lessons, etc but I want to play bass the right way not just to be cool (like I did with guitar) instantly felt better going for the D and G strings after this.
Good video man. Made me realise I should probably stop resting my right arm so that my rest is all bent up. Thanks!
Thanks a lot for these videos, it's all good advice. I was wondering if you would mind explaining weight distribution? I'm used to slumping my right forearm over the top of the body slightly, which pins the bass in place. But with my arm nearer to vertical, I can't get the same 'grip', and more weight is shifted to my left hand, making it less dextrous. Any tips you can give me are greatly appreciated. Thank you kindly.
Thanks for your videos on RH and LH technique. I play mainly double bass these days, and when picking up the fender again, I noticed a few problems - now I know why! If I may add something though, I prefer looking at posture not downwards starting from the fingers, then hands, arms, shoulder etc,, but upwards starting from standing / sitting posture, then spine, shoulders, arms etc. Now, your right shoulder is pulled up compared to the left - won't that put unequal strain on your spine?
Wow, you’ve come a long way.
I noticed that in the years since you made this video you seem to have started using the bent right wrist and even recommend it like in your vid about how to make an electric bass sound like an upright. What's up with that?
Also, I really like the bass and feel like it makes the most sense to me out of any non-percussion instrument I've played, but every time I try to teach myself through my usual immersion/obsession/isolation method. I just end up overplaying and getting crazy blisters on the fingers of my right hand and then quitting the bass for way too long and at this rate I'll never be able to practice enough to play bass comfortably and confidently. How do I get around this problem? When I asked my dad (a semi-professional jazz/funk/gospel/classical bassist) all he said was "Keep playing" but that's hard when it feels like your fingers are falling apart. Should I practice with a pick when my fingertips start getting sore? and if so, how do I play with good pick technique? I play most of my instruments bare handed so I don't really know what I'm doing with one and even if I did, I imagine picking a bass is a lot different from, say, a mandolin. help
I love 2010 UA-cam, it was so genuine!
thank you so much!! this is what i looking for!!
Exellent Adam Neely, thanks so much
This is very welcome advice; my new bass has a quite sharp edge to the body which highlighted to me that my forearm has been resting there lazily. So it seems this bass requires a good technique in order to be played comfortably. I will work on my right arm position!
How did that work out for you? I just bought a new bass and tried it out at the story in a pretty thick pullover but at home I noticed the pain from the sharp edge. Trying this elbow-up technique just feels wrong, at least at the moment. Were you able to change your technique? I would be really grateful for an answer
@@LM-du8wg to be honest I've been fine with it. I've been doing more slap and that's good because of the arm position and even finger style is ok, it has promoted a better position I think. I live in a warm place and always wear short sleeves
@@JimmyLazers thanks for the quick response. So you ended up changing your technique a bit but more naturally (because it hurts otherwise) than methodically? Did I get that right?
@@LM-du8wg it's not a comfortable bass to be lazy with! I think that's the fairest way to put it.
Finally actual good advice!
Great video! Thank you so much! 👍
You're welcome! Glad I could help :)
Also super helpful. 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@havic5 Thanks for your swift reply, Sir! Back to my "diligent practice", then...
It's pretty impossible play like this. The shoulder fatigue is crazy
agreed
I know this is an old comment, but I'd like to reply nonetheless. I've found that when playing with straight fingers, I just end up hitting the strings and then rebounding, which makes practically no sound. But when curving the fingers, there's a hook shape that's created, which allows the strings to move, snap and recoil to make sound. Also, curving seems to make concentrating force in the fingertips easier.
It's kind of like trying to activate a rubber band by slapping it.
@intioyarzun I'm curious what specifically you don't agree with in this video. The elbow above the bass?
Thanks for the video. I have severe tendonitis in my right elbow and it comes back slightly after playing, the postion i use is wrist bent and forearm resting. is this why i have flare ups. I think i just answered my question, right? but Humerus gets tired if i do it your way
hi great info ,is it possible to do more on this,the picking tech,i use the whole of my fingers ,straight to pick,but your saying use the first joint of finger to pick,can you please explain more on this so i can get out of the habit i have been doing for a long time,hopefully,also what you said about the position of the shoulder,where the hand is curved i am doing that aswell,i have been doing both bad techniques for about 15 years,do you think it is possible to correct my tech.on the correct posture of hand and the correct plucking of fingers.please do more indepth videos on this topic so i can try to correct the bad habits,thanks from a worried bassist,have subbed
thank you youtube for recommending this 11 years later
My problem with the "limp hand" position is actually shoulder pain, not hand/wrist pain 🤔 I assume the neutral position is just going to make my shoulder work more(?)
thanks for making this video man. i currently play acoustic guitar, but decided to begin learning bass as i think it's a ton more fun! this is a great video for a beginner like me. cheers!
By using your left hands unused fingers to mute the strings. For instance, you hit an A (2nd Fret )on the E string (Top string), and you mute the A/D/G strings with your middle, ring, and pinkie finger. You can also mute multiple strings by laying your finger across multiple strings
can you do 3 videos going in depth to each of the 3 right hand techniques
I'm a self taught bass player and been playing for more then 20 years.I 've been playing with a cover band for 3 years and we play 2-3 nights a month 5 hour long shows with breaks in between and now i am having issues with my fingers feeling sore and stiff.I'm gonna try this out and see if it helps..
QBN37 Did it help?
Interesting technique :) I'll look into it. I don't have any problems with my wrist, but I just don't like the wrist angle I'm playing with. Is it normal for this technique to be really tiring for my arm?
Hey Adam question?...How do you approach Giant Steps when walking bass?
Hi, thanks for your videos. Do you still stand by this technique? I am going to try it and I wanted to know if you still use it after all these years. Cheers.
You are my savior.. thank you so much!!
Lol I'd never imagined running into 2010 Adam Neely when googling this. Keep on keepin' on liccman
nice, I'd also like to see one for plectrum too.
So I’m practicing playing this way as opposed to whatever wild way I had been. And my hands are pretty exhausted. I wonder if it has to do with my hands having build their muscles to the lesser technique and now having to almost relearn in some ways. I hope so.
I've noticed a technique problem lately with my right hand. To me, it feels pretty relaxed and this problem doesn't really translate into playing, but I've noticed that my pinky on my plucking hand gets all tense and sort of flies around whenever I start really digging in or playing fast. Of course this probably means my hand isn't relaxed, and I'm worried that I'm going to run into problems with this. Plus it looks pretty weird haha. Any suggestions for how to fix this?
ive guitar for 10 years so going to bass im most comfortable with my pinkie anchored on the fret board when playing fast, when not playing fast i use my thumb, pointer and middle finger to 'pluck' the strings. is this still a safe way to play? i tried it by bending my wrist over the guitar at a 90 degree angle and it is uncomfortable and unnatural, and i could feel constrained in my shoulders.
Adam, why did you get rid of this bass?
Really well articulated even back in 2010(=
Moving from acoustic guitar with that big body to drape your arm over to electric bass, I'm really needing to figure out how to get my wrist straight. Maybe I should get a wrist brace...
cool video, dude
As I'm practicing this it feels like I am having to intentionally push my elbow forward away from my body, this has definitely alleviated this strain that I was feeling on my anchor thumb, but it's a very awkward way to hold my arm. Especially when I'm resting my wrist on the top of the bass, I have to even exert more effort on pushing my elbow forward.
Am I missing something or does this just take some time to get used to?
Thanks for these old videos. I’m wondering if there is a bass course online or in book format anyone would recommend?
For beginner btw
Thank you papa Neely
I think I'm misunderstanding something - how can one possibly rest their forearm on the bass with the elbow above, and then actually access the strings?
I have the same problem. Im struggling to find the right position :/
rest your forearm on the actual comfort cut. not in the top edge. Put your elbow above the bass like adam says. then simply lean your entire forearm on the front of the bass. It may help if you lower your strap a bit
I'm a short guy, 5'1. Im tryna practice this safe right hand technique, however the neck dive on my bass makes it hard to keep in place especially when playing some fast lines so i grew the habit of resting my forearm on the body of the bass to counteract the neck dive. Do you have any tips for this matter? I'm using a Fender standard precision bass.
im 5'5 and also i play a p bass, did u figure out how to counteract the neck dive? i try to rest my forearm on the body but i find myself that im holdind with the fretting hand
Excellent
Anybody have any advice for slap style? Whacking my thumb against the string seems to bounce my wrist around
my only problem wtih this technique isi cannot seem to get a wide variance of articulation and tone compared to others and play fast???
Mm, makes really good sense. Thank you.
What if all fingers are in use? Sixteenth note chromatic riffs etc.?
is it bad i rest my thumb on the low sting. i do it to keep it muted. i also move up strings and mute them with scales. my friend teased me for it so i m curious if its bad for not. it sounds fine though......
Why would it be bad? I play similarly and it sounds good... Everyone has their own personal style to play. :D
on my 5-stringer, I anchor my thumb on the pickup and my third finger is constantly resting on the B-string specifically to mute it(sometimes moving anchored thumb to b-string instead if I have to play on the high strings too much). Otherwise, that string rings out absolutely constantly, no matter what you do. I don't see muting a string so your sound is cleaner as a bad thing.
Absolutely not. It's desirable.
Gage Lloyd That’s how you’re supposed to do it. Only for the E string though
How do you mute the lower strings while playing the higher ones without using the thumb?
patrolmostwanted You’re supposed to use your thumb
Hey Adam I’m left handed how would I be able to do it would it be exactly the same as the right had or different
you do it exactly the same, just switch hands :)
My wrist will always hurt when I play in any other position other than this one.
Sound advice!
classical guitar position... nuff said
Make a new series of this things!
I tried this, but I have a problem with it: sliding.... If my wrist or lower arm is not attached to the body, I can not put the force on the body to hold it enough for a slide with the left. Any ideas anyone? Maybe the body of my bass is not big enough.
Young Adam! 😀