Arthur C. Clarke stories... interesting to compare this to the prologue to the revised edition of _Childhood's End,_ where countries compete frantically at the Cold War space race-till the first extraterrestrial spaceship descends on Earth, and they realize that none of this of this matters anymore, that none of them can win, that they're all far, far too late.
Yep...the magazine cover earlier in the film which is supposed to display pictures of the President of the United States and the Soviet Premier both looking very grim shows Arthur C. Clarke (author of the short story which served as the inspiration for "2001: A Space Odyssey") as the President and Stanley Kubrick (director of "2001") as the Premier.
@@OreadNYC And while all of this was happening, President Clarke was sitting on a park bench just outside the White House grounds, feeding the Birds...
Oh...Why? A few days ago I watched one Danish film about witches made in the 1920s... It wasn't strange or eerie, in fact, it was very interesting how good the cinematography was.
Dr. Heywood Floyd: "This is a most difficult announcement. But since arriving aboard Discovery, we have found orders from the National Security Council, to why MY signature was falsely added, which are now known to have directly caused the malfunction of the HAL 9000 computer and resulted in the murder of nearly all of the ship's crew, as well as the loss of the ship itself. it is therefore my duty, as a matter of honor and of great personal offense, to say, FUCK YOU AND YOUR ORDERS, which have already gotten people killed, and to instruct you to shut the hell up, this order effective immediately."
I know it was more dramatic for the movie to separate the docking harness and let it drift out into space. But that part always bothered me. Why wouldn't they retract it? What are the chances it could hit the monolith?? Obviously, the shot was to show how both countries had dissolved their pact for cooperation. The director decided to use that shot to symbolize this. But they saw the way the monolith reacted when Max approached it. What did they think it would do if a chunk of debris hits it?? As Dr. Curnow would say, "Dumb".
Imagine if the nukes had fallen, what would these crews do then? No sense going back to Earth if it’s uninhabitable. Would they have tried for the moon or a major space station we hear referenced in another scene? Or would they have just stayed in Jupiter’s orbit and committed suicide?
@@blvp2145 The Soviet/Russian Kirov class nuclear powered heavy guided missile cruiser has a crew of 710. First seen by NATO in 1981, it would have been state of the art at the time the movie was made. It's not unreasonable for them to imagine ships would continue to increase in size in the future.
Da, and I feel this situation should not have to exist between the various people of this planet! We all have family, mother's, father's, and people we care for and hope the best for! The current state of affairs on our planet need not be! Let us all, all, pull together, feed and hug and love each other, and reach out, to the stars!
On April 14, 2022 Ukraine launched two of her Neptune antiship missiles. Both struck the missile cruiser Moskva, flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, amidships and exploded. The Moskva, belching flames and smoke, went dead in the water. She sank soon after.
FLOYD: Okay, great, if the world's going to hell, put it on AMC. *TRANSLATES* *CHANGES CHANNEL* *RUSSIAN* "He wants to know why bald man threw pizza on roof."
When President Trump officially declared the Space Force a distinct branch of the U.S. military many people incorrectly assumed that he was forming something straight out of the movie 'Moonraker' but that's not the case. There are many things going on in orbit above the Earth, most of which people don't know about because it's classified under National Security. *Part* of what the Space Force deals with today came from the Strategic Defense Initiative of the 1980s. At that time this involved energy weapons in orbit that could destroy nuclear missiles, satellites and whatnot. So in your comment regarding the Space Force and it's similar state of technology and weapon deployment in this movie, yes. There is a good degree of accuracy. The energy weapon technology that Ronald Regan wanted wasn't ready in the 1980s but just because it wasn't that didn't mean that research and development stopped. It continued and today those weapons are quite real. Here is one example: ua-cam.com/video/kgUnDeED9MM/v-deo.html You can find many more examples here on UA-cam by searching for High Energy Weapons and Directed Energy Weapons. Aside from that the Space Force also deals with something that affects us more directly: the monitoring of satellites and satellite communications. Governments and capable non-state actors can utilize satellites in orbit for espionage just like the average hacker uses the internet for their own shenanigans. In close relation: as drone technology in the sky has advanced in the last twenty years so too have drones in space. Imagine putting robotic arms on a satellite and having it catch and link into another satellite in orbit, now imagine the satellite that was linked into was a military satellite relaying communications between nuclear armed warships and the Pentagon. Currently, monitoring things like this is just some of what the Space Force does. It scares me a little and I believe that if I knew about at least half of what's really been going on up there over the past forty years I'd be a lot more than just a little scared. It's one thing for a bad actor to knock out our television. It'd be a whole other to find out that our own weapons are no longer under our control. Who really knows what's been going on all these years or what's going on right this second.
I love this movie - I really do. But one thing has always bugged the shit out of me: the proportions of the Monolith seen at beginning of this video are nowhere even near 1:4:9. This Monolith is about 10 times wider than it is thick. Why not just do it right?
There was another detail in the 2001 novel that would be interesting to reproduce today: the monoliths were supposed to be black. DEAD black. Like, reflecting nothing, at any wavelength. No discernible detail, even to an electron microscope. In my head canon, the monoliths are not actually physical objects but "domains" defined by the aliens in N-dimensional space to take a form that to us resembles a three-dimensional object. It has a volume and a mass and therefore a density, and you can pick it up and move it, but it's not a physical object.
@@hubbsllc I like that idea. I thought that about another book I read that had an impenetrable object. It's not that the object is made of material that is infinitely strong; it's just that the edge of this object is where our universe ends. There's no getting to the other side because there IS no other side.
Watched this in late summer 2024. Putin in Russia running scared after Ukraine attacks inside Russian territories. Putin blames the U.S. and is threatening WWIII. Science fiction is pretty good at predicting the future sometimes!
The people speaking in this scene are not meant to be the POTUS and the Soviet Premier. They're supposed to be the chairman of the NCA (the NCA stands for the National Council of Astronautics and is the film's version of NASA) and his counterpart in the Soviet Union. Interesting fact -- there is an earlier scene in the film in which we briefly see the cover of a news magazine featuring the headline "WAR?" and a sketch of the POTUS and the Soviet Premier. Arthur C. Clarke (who wrote the short story that served as the source material for "2001: A Space Odyssey") became the model for the POTUS and Stanley Kubrick (who directed "2001: A Space Odyssey") became the model for the Soviet premier.
Dr. Heywood Floyd: ‘Listen, just because our governments are behaving like asses doesn't mean we have to...’
They are millions of miles away. They are a lot closer to each other than we are to them.
Arthur C. Clarke stories... interesting to compare this to the prologue to the revised edition of _Childhood's End,_ where countries compete frantically at the Cold War space race-till the first extraterrestrial spaceship descends on Earth, and they realize that none of this of this matters anymore, that none of them can win, that they're all far, far too late.
Very disappointed at President Clarke and chairman Kubrick.
Yep...the magazine cover earlier in the film which is supposed to display pictures of the President of the United States and the Soviet Premier both looking very grim shows Arthur C. Clarke (author of the short story which served as the inspiration for "2001: A Space Odyssey") as the President and Stanley Kubrick (director of "2001") as the Premier.
@@OreadNYC And while all of this was happening, President Clarke was sitting on a park bench just outside the White House grounds, feeding the Birds...
It feels very strange and eerie to be watching this in February 2022.
Why?
Oh...Why? A few days ago I watched one Danish film about witches made in the 1920s... It wasn't strange or eerie, in fact, it was very interesting how good the cinematography was.
It feels very strange and eerie to be watching this in February 2023.
😬😁
It feels very strange to be watching this on September 8, 2024 😰
It feels very weird to be watching on 2nd October 2024- Iran strike on Israel.
That’s James McEachin whom I remember from _Columbo_ but for a second he sounded just like Morgan Freeman!
I know right..!? 🍷
The guy on the other screen (playing a Soviet) is Dana Elcar from MacGyver and Black Sheep Squadron.
@@bms9144 Oh right! He appeared at the beginning of the movie to propose the joint mission :-)
Dr. Heywood Floyd:
"This is a most difficult announcement. But since arriving aboard Discovery, we have found orders from the National Security Council, to why MY signature was falsely added, which are now known to have directly caused the malfunction of the HAL 9000 computer and resulted in the murder of nearly all of the ship's crew, as well as the loss of the ship itself. it is therefore my duty, as a matter of honor and of great personal offense, to say, FUCK YOU AND YOUR ORDERS, which have already gotten people killed, and to instruct you to shut the hell up, this order effective immediately."
A much under-rated film, 2010.
It feels very strange and eerie to be watching this in October 2024
I saw the movie as a rental, imagine seeing this in 2024 !!
Let me tell you how incredible a movie this was…and is.
Why don't you let me how incredible this film is, and how even more incredible was 2001, A Space Odyssey...
I know it was more dramatic for the movie to separate the docking harness and let it drift out into space. But that part always bothered me. Why wouldn't they retract it? What are the chances it could hit the monolith?? Obviously, the shot was to show how both countries had dissolved their pact for cooperation. The director decided to use that shot to symbolize this. But they saw the way the monolith reacted when Max approached it. What did they think it would do if a chunk of debris hits it?? As Dr. Curnow would say, "Dumb".
Eerily accurate in February 2022.
I was thinking the same
Eerily scripted I'd say.
I imagine this is exactly what it is like to be one of those 7 astronauts on the ISS at this very moment
I hear you. I keep thinking of this scene
Dr. Heywood Floyd: ‘Listen, just because our governments are behaving like asses doesn't mean we have to...’
“Sorry sir, but this ain’t got shit to do with us. Good luck.”
World news 3.10.22... "Russia threatens to abandon American astronaut in space as sanctions threaten peace aboard ISS"
This was one of the disturbing part of the movie to me...and now here we are in 2022..WTF???
2024
2025...for sure....@@hazmat7949
Imagine if the nukes had fallen, what would these crews do then? No sense going back to Earth if it’s uninhabitable. Would they have tried for the moon or a major space station we hear referenced in another scene? Or would they have just stayed in Jupiter’s orbit and committed suicide?
"I wish there was something I could, but the plot really needs to happen"
A Russian destroyer has a crew of 800? Were they rowing?
Film made in 1984, set in 2010 and it's 2021 now and Russia doesn't have anything that close to it.
Now that is a very big ship for a crew of 800. Did they make a mistake in the scripted ?
@@blvp2145 The Soviet/Russian Kirov class nuclear powered heavy guided missile cruiser has a crew of 710. First seen by NATO in 1981, it would have been state of the art at the time the movie was made. It's not unreasonable for them to imagine ships would continue to increase in size in the future.
@@SR71ABCD no they do, the Kirov class
Dr. Heywood Floyd: ‘Listen, just because our governments are behaving like asses doesn't mean we have to...’
Da, and I feel this situation should not have to exist between the various people of this planet! We all have family, mother's, father's, and people we care for and hope the best for! The current state of affairs on our planet need not be! Let us all, all, pull together, feed and hug and love each other, and reach out, to the stars!
On April 14, 2022 Ukraine launched two of her Neptune antiship missiles. Both struck the missile cruiser Moskva, flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, amidships and exploded. The Moskva, belching flames and smoke, went dead in the water. She sank soon after.
History repeating, and still behaving like asses.
We only have the ISS we haven't even got colonies out there yet and we might not survive the war of Ukraine.
Even if we do, COVID is going to get us anyway.
There's no escape.
I have a great feeling this will be on everyone’s recommendation due to the Ukriane Russia crisis today
2023. We're damn close
FLOYD: Okay, great, if the world's going to hell, put it on AMC.
*TRANSLATES*
*CHANGES CHANNEL*
*RUSSIAN*
"He wants to know why bald man threw pizza on roof."
might be happening for real on ISS soon #Ukraine
SPACE FORCE?
When President Trump officially declared the Space Force a distinct branch of the U.S. military many people incorrectly assumed that he was forming something straight out of the movie 'Moonraker' but that's not the case. There are many things going on in orbit above the Earth, most of which people don't know about because it's classified under National Security. *Part* of what the Space Force deals with today came from the Strategic Defense Initiative of the 1980s. At that time this involved energy weapons in orbit that could destroy nuclear missiles, satellites and whatnot. So in your comment regarding the Space Force and it's similar state of technology and weapon deployment in this movie, yes. There is a good degree of accuracy.
The energy weapon technology that Ronald Regan wanted wasn't ready in the 1980s but just because it wasn't that didn't mean that research and development stopped. It continued and today those weapons are quite real. Here is one example: ua-cam.com/video/kgUnDeED9MM/v-deo.html You can find many more examples here on UA-cam by searching for High Energy Weapons and Directed Energy Weapons.
Aside from that the Space Force also deals with something that affects us more directly: the monitoring of satellites and satellite communications. Governments and capable non-state actors can utilize satellites in orbit for espionage just like the average hacker uses the internet for their own shenanigans. In close relation: as drone technology in the sky has advanced in the last twenty years so too have drones in space. Imagine putting robotic arms on a satellite and having it catch and link into another satellite in orbit, now imagine the satellite that was linked into was a military satellite relaying communications between nuclear armed warships and the Pentagon. Currently, monitoring things like this is just some of what the Space Force does.
It scares me a little and I believe that if I knew about at least half of what's really been going on up there over the past forty years I'd be a lot more than just a little scared. It's one thing for a bad actor to knock out our television. It'd be a whole other to find out that our own weapons are no longer under our control. Who really knows what's been going on all these years or what's going on right this second.
@@blazerocker1734 well said
800 men on a destroyer?? thats a big ship
Yeah the Kirov class is gargantuan for a destroyer and has a crew of nearly 800
March 2022....
Christian Dubé aussi doit écouter ça avec François Legault. François Legault.
Ever noticed how similar the Pods design is to the Drones in Oblivion.
One movie influences the other...
November, 2022. Russian rockets have landed in Poland and killed two people.
😂
What's the chairman saying?
800 crew was lost ? Damn .
They'd need that many men to run one of their tin shitboxes.
0:16 -- The speaker here looks and sounds like Morgan Freeman, but IMDB has not credit in 2010 for him?
It's James McEachin. Very well know actor in the 70s, 80s and 90s. He tended to play Police, military, and politician roles.
I love this movie - I really do. But one thing has always bugged the shit out of me: the proportions of the Monolith seen at beginning of this video are nowhere even near 1:4:9.
This Monolith is about 10 times wider than it is thick. Why not just do it right?
Because the same monolith around Jupiter is shown in 2001 with those proportions, more like cubic 1 8 27
ua-cam.com/video/vMffAMIlPYE/v-deo.html
There was another detail in the 2001 novel that would be interesting to reproduce today: the monoliths were supposed to be black. DEAD black. Like, reflecting nothing, at any wavelength. No discernible detail, even to an electron microscope. In my head canon, the monoliths are not actually physical objects but "domains" defined by the aliens in N-dimensional space to take a form that to us resembles a three-dimensional object. It has a volume and a mass and therefore a density, and you can pick it up and move it, but it's not a physical object.
@@hubbsllc
I like that idea. I thought that about another book I read that had an impenetrable object. It's not that the object is made of material that is infinitely strong; it's just that the edge of this object is where our universe ends. There's no getting to the other side because there IS no other side.
A 1:4:9 Monolith would have looked like a brick. Now a 1:8:27 Monolith would have been good.
That's what it felt like when everything went into lockdown last year for Covid.
Hardly a comparable situation.
WHAT?? How can you even compare that lockdown with such a situation? You must be kidding, or you are sarcastic...
And, somehow, if politics and egos not had a say...it could have been avoided...Fuckin Cold War...
uh oh!
It’s so stupid that the lives of billions hang in the balance of just a few individuals on this planet.. Sept, 2024..
The book is so much better..
François Legault doit écouter ça avec ses oreilles 👂. François Legault. François Legault.
Watched this in late summer 2024. Putin in Russia running scared after Ukraine attacks inside Russian territories. Putin blames the U.S. and is threatening WWIII. Science fiction is pretty good at predicting the future sometimes!
Funny how in 2010 how they looked like the presidents looks like Obama and Putin in 2010
They were not the presidents. They both ran the space programs for the US and Russia.
They weren’t Presidents they’re the heads of the two countries space agencies
The people speaking in this scene are not meant to be the POTUS and the Soviet Premier. They're supposed to be the chairman of the NCA (the NCA stands for the National Council of Astronautics and is the film's version of NASA) and his counterpart in the Soviet Union.
Interesting fact -- there is an earlier scene in the film in which we briefly see the cover of a news magazine featuring the headline "WAR?" and a sketch of the POTUS and the Soviet Premier. Arthur C. Clarke (who wrote the short story that served as the source material for "2001: A Space Odyssey") became the model for the POTUS and Stanley Kubrick (who directed "2001: A Space Odyssey") became the model for the Soviet premier.
Those two characters aren't the presidents - we've seen them both earlier in the film.
The USSR was disolved in December 1991, so in 2010, this could not have happened.
Nelson...other then the war report all else good....the yankees going to the world series.
Stupidity, thy name is "war"
A black president in 2010 Amerikkka?! Get real Hollywood, that would never happen!
Not the president.
@@chivalryremains9426 It's obvious the OP never saw the film.