It's crazy to think, just like my generation loves pixel art, there's going to be a whole generation who grew up watching these horrible AI movies that will be nostalgic for all the stuff we despise.
This is kinda like those crazy F-ed up dreams I often have where nothing seems to make sense and I look at something at it changes into something else.
The thing I'm taking the most note of is how generic the actual environments are. In Monsters Inc, while it's set in a world that is fairly similar to ours, there's a ton of little design flourishes to the buildings and the furniture that make it _feel_ distinct from our world. Look at Sulley's and Mike's apartment, for instance; the tables have spiky points for feet, the speakers look like a monster, Sulley's chair has a hole for his tail, and the light switches are tubes controlled via valves which tie into the worldbuilding. It's all small stuff, but it builds on each other to sell that it's a world full of _monsters,_ despite how similar it is otherwise to our world. It's a great example as to why I'm skeptical of AI videos or pictures being anything more than a novelty; it fundamentally cannot engage in that level of deliberate design.
THIS MOVIE LOOKS ABSOLUTLEY AMAZING I CANT WAIT TO WATCH IT ITS SO AMAZING THE TRAILER MAKES ME SO PUMPED AND CURES MY DEPRESSION I HOPE BLUE FUZZ BALL GETS A HAPPY ENDING
I dont think anyone is against AI. Its just that there is much incentive for giant companies and opportunistic individuals to steal and exploit peoples drawings, photos, music and voice work as theres nothing that will stop them and for as long as theres not enough regulations, laws or solutions to these thefts these will be the most profitables years of this kind of use for the AI and they intend to extend this as long as possible. They never considered what will happen afterwards or care, they just see a new loop hole to screw over everyone else and the kind of culture they will leave behind is not their concern.
I use AI (ChatGPT specifically) all the time. It helps me rough out chunks of code to get through a programming task quicker. I’ve used to help me write emails when negotiating pricing for corporate software purchases, and that worked great. Took the output and ran it through Grammarly touch it up. I’ve assembled some really strong arguments that way
@@kneepayne AI has its uses and is getting better faster and faster. I just hope the law can keep up because the average consumer and anyone who has ever created something are the ones who will be affected by the future where things wont change for the better.
Some people do genuinely hate AI in its entirely. My brothers were telling me not to use it because it was inherently evil or lazy, something along those lines.
Someone would pay something for that. How much would it cost in terms of money and time to do that same video so that it's "good?" If you can tell the AI to correct and tweak the initial draft of the video, then you could potentially get better and better quality. The real question is how much time and money will it cost to go through that iterative process using the AI.
"The real question is how much time and money will it cost to go through that iterative process using the AI." This is the part that can be costly. My personal experience is that AI hasn't been good at making details and specific adjustments.
I've been messing with Luma ai and the videos really don't pose a threat to Disney or anyone else, the quality just isn't there. What Luma is GOOD at doing isn't the text to video, its the Image to video function that is most impressive. I'm staying out of the whole "training data" aspect of the discussion though, as that is going to get complicated fast. And hail, fellow nerd :)
The movie looks so bad I doubt it will get released anytime soon. Also, there is a new upcoming Winnie the Pooh animated series, and the movie is being made in collaboration between ai art and human artists. The company is called Kartoon Studio. 😂
But how will the laws actually combat this? I think we all realize the complete shitstorm that would result from laws making "this kinda looks like that" in movie making illegal. If that concept was the law in the 70's Lucas would've been sued by people who made Dune and etc, etc..
I think that is what everyone is trying to figure out. In the corporate security cyber space, companies are trying to understand how to manage AI usage by employees. Yes it can help, but also it can open risks of data leakage to unknown servers for "training". It's an odd time for sure.
“Dailies” is a daily review of work awaiting approval. Usually there is a review every morning, hence the name “dailies”. Concept art, layout, animation, fx, lighting, color correction, etc. each step in the process is subject to review.
@@kneepayneA “vhs” released of another teaser trailer(I think) and it will actually be a show, not a movie, PLUS THE SOUND DESIGN IN THAT VIDEO… HAS REALLY GOOD SOUND DESIGN…??????
Training usage aside for a second, It definitely is not ready not ready for commercial use ... but I don't think any of it is intended to be. Maybe to use on the youtube level. It MIGHT when it is tied to something to an unreal engine type of environment instead of basically using stills to generate a short video clip which is what it is doing. But this current tech definitely you are not going to get anything useful for full on story telling. But this is all definitely in a new experimental tech phase. Forms of AI is used in FX though. Mostly physics simulations particles simulations crowd simulations etc. Crowd simulations were used in the Lord of the Rings movies for the huge combat scenes. Adobe so far is the only one that has tried to avoid the legal issues and do things more ethically. Though they are pretty far behind others as a result. Though I can use it's AI pretty well for some things especially modifying other images ai or other wise to remove things or fix things. Adobe is using their own image stock and some clearly public domain images to train on. They do compensate people that have supplied their images to them I heard.
Thank you for such a detailed review. I like seeing all the honesty while discussing this type of service. Not just a 30 minute video on how wonderful and life changing it is lol.
It's crazy to think, just like my generation loves pixel art, there's going to be a whole generation who grew up watching these horrible AI movies that will be nostalgic for all the stuff we despise.
Oof I never considered that
Yeah, they'll go through the same thing generations later
Bruh
1:33 you can see the kid from Monsters Inc as well.
I saw that too, defiantly Boo from Monsters Inc
@@juhlian100 lmao that does NOT look like Boo
Thankfully it’s just a proof of concept. I almost got fooled into thinking this was an actual movie coming out.
The best way to look at most of this AI generated video is conceptual AI. It would never pass a real review process in the current state
This is kinda like those crazy F-ed up dreams I often have where nothing seems to make sense and I look at something at it changes into something else.
You got to do some sketches of these dreams of yours!
The thing I'm taking the most note of is how generic the actual environments are. In Monsters Inc, while it's set in a world that is fairly similar to ours, there's a ton of little design flourishes to the buildings and the furniture that make it _feel_ distinct from our world. Look at Sulley's and Mike's apartment, for instance; the tables have spiky points for feet, the speakers look like a monster, Sulley's chair has a hole for his tail, and the light switches are tubes controlled via valves which tie into the worldbuilding.
It's all small stuff, but it builds on each other to sell that it's a world full of _monsters,_ despite how similar it is otherwise to our world. It's a great example as to why I'm skeptical of AI videos or pictures being anything more than a novelty; it fundamentally cannot engage in that level of deliberate design.
Oh yeah it’s the small details. Same can be said about Cars. That is where good old fashioned artistry still has over AI
The plane has three wings☠️☠️
Someone would try and pass it off as “creative interpretation” ;)
That plane will never be the Fokker dr1 triplane
THIS MOVIE LOOKS ABSOLUTLEY AMAZING I CANT WAIT TO WATCH IT ITS SO AMAZING THE TRAILER MAKES ME SO PUMPED AND CURES MY DEPRESSION I HOPE BLUE FUZZ BALL GETS A HAPPY ENDING
Yeah mostly some videos or trailers out there of what we saw from every thumbnails really do hide how good or perfect these are
I dont think anyone is against AI. Its just that there is much incentive for giant companies and opportunistic individuals to steal and exploit peoples drawings, photos, music and voice work as theres nothing that will stop them and for as long as theres not enough regulations, laws or solutions to these thefts these will be the most profitables years of this kind of use for the AI and they intend to extend this as long as possible. They never considered what will happen afterwards or care, they just see a new loop hole to screw over everyone else and the kind of culture they will leave behind is not their concern.
I use AI (ChatGPT specifically) all the time. It helps me rough out chunks of code to get through a programming task quicker. I’ve used to help me write emails when negotiating pricing for corporate software purchases, and that worked great. Took the output and ran it through Grammarly touch it up. I’ve assembled some really strong arguments that way
@@kneepayne AI has its uses and is getting better faster and faster. I just hope the law can keep up because the average consumer and anyone who has ever created something are the ones who will be affected by the future where things wont change for the better.
Some people do genuinely hate AI in its entirely. My brothers were telling me not to use it because it was inherently evil or lazy, something along those lines.
Someone would pay something for that. How much would it cost in terms of money and time to do that same video so that it's "good?" If you can tell the AI to correct and tweak the initial draft of the video, then you could potentially get better and better quality. The real question is how much time and money will it cost to go through that iterative process using the AI.
"The real question is how much time and money will it cost to go through that iterative process using the AI."
This is the part that can be costly. My personal experience is that AI hasn't been good at making details and specific adjustments.
I've been messing with Luma ai and the videos really don't pose a threat to Disney or anyone else, the quality just isn't there. What Luma is GOOD at doing isn't the text to video, its the Image to video function that is most impressive. I'm staying out of the whole "training data" aspect of the discussion though, as that is going to get complicated fast. And hail, fellow nerd :)
The movie looks so bad I doubt it will get released anytime soon. Also, there is a new upcoming Winnie the Pooh animated series, and the movie is being made in collaboration between ai art and human artists. The company is called Kartoon Studio. 😂
oh my, thanks for sharing I am going to look into this
@@kneepayne good 👍
But how will the laws actually combat this? I think we all realize the complete shitstorm that would result from laws making "this kinda looks like that" in movie making illegal.
If that concept was the law in the 70's Lucas would've been sued by people who made Dune and etc, etc..
I think that is what everyone is trying to figure out. In the corporate security cyber space, companies are trying to understand how to manage AI usage by employees. Yes it can help, but also it can open risks of data leakage to unknown servers for "training". It's an odd time for sure.
I here you mention "Daily's". What is that? Is it to check everything over to make sure there is no copyright or something else
“Dailies” is a daily review of work awaiting approval. Usually there is a review every morning, hence the name “dailies”.
Concept art, layout, animation, fx, lighting, color correction, etc. each step in the process is subject to review.
@@kneepayneA “vhs” released of another teaser trailer(I think) and it will actually be a show, not a movie, PLUS THE SOUND DESIGN IN THAT VIDEO… HAS REALLY GOOD SOUND DESIGN…??????
Learning from you, thanks.
Training usage aside for a second, It definitely is not ready not ready for commercial use ... but I don't think any of it is intended to be. Maybe to use on the youtube level. It MIGHT when it is tied to something to an unreal engine type of environment instead of basically using stills to generate a short video clip which is what it is doing. But this current tech definitely you are not going to get anything useful for full on story telling. But this is all definitely in a new experimental tech phase.
Forms of AI is used in FX though. Mostly physics simulations particles simulations crowd simulations etc. Crowd simulations were used in the Lord of the Rings movies for the huge combat scenes.
Adobe so far is the only one that has tried to avoid the legal issues and do things more ethically. Though they are pretty far behind others as a result. Though I can use it's AI pretty well for some things especially modifying other images ai or other wise to remove things or fix things. Adobe is using their own image stock and some clearly public domain images to train on. They do compensate people that have supplied their images to them I heard.
why does the little girl on the left look like Penelope form wreak it ralph
It could be.
That's amazing.
Won't lie, there are a few shots I thought looked good.
Good video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for such a detailed review. I like seeing all the honesty while discussing this type of service. Not just a 30 minute video on how wonderful and life changing it is lol.
Disney sux so w ai