Joe Elliott Breaks Silence on Def Leppard Allegations
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2024
- Def Leppard frontman Joe Elliott is responding to comments made by Testament's Chuck Billy and ex W.A.S.P. guitarist Chris Holmes accusing his band of using backing tracks. The Def Leppard singer denied the accusations.
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0:00 Def Leppard frontman responds to backing tracks allegations
1:09 Chuck Billy on backing tracks and Def Leppard
4:53 Ex W.A.S.P. guitarist Chris Holmes on Def Leppard
5:49 Phil Collen on Def Leppard backing track allegations
7:25 Joe Elliot responds to the backing track claims
11:14 The fallout from the backing track debate - Розваги
In my opinion I WISH VINCE NEAL WAS LIP SYNCING 😂😂😂😂
" I got high almost peed" 😂😂😂😂
Vince is DEFINITELY not lip singing!!!
@@TheMajesticOne Unfortunately 🤣
@@debbyshannon7242 - I saw them numerous times in the 80’s, and 90’s(when they USE to sound good!!!) and unfortunately it’s been downhill ever since. A lot of bands from that era at least TRIED, and DID sound like the record, but Vince only sings half the words ( the other half I don’t understand 😂) I know it’s going to sound different live, but dam, can you make an ATTEMPT to sound close?
From Wild Side…..AMEN!!!
😂😂
I saw Tesla open up for Def Leppard when Joe was obviously under the weather. Jeff Keith from Tesla came on stage to help Joe out. What a great show.
And that right there should show anyone in this comment section should take Joe Elliott for his word. Perfect situation where his voice went out and he chose to have someone else finish the show off like Jeff Keith did for him and not rely on backing tracks like everyone accuses Leppard of doing. Jealousy is a stinky cologne.
@Apocalypse2031it's on the internet with Jeff singing. Jeff voice hasn't been shot for 12 years. Can tell your not really a fan of tesla. It's OK.
I seen Tesla blow DL I
off the stage in Edinburgh when Tesla started out
I saw Tesla open for them in 87, when Hysteria just came out
yeah I don't give a crap if they're using backing tracks or they're even lip-syncing some high notes they can't reach anymore most time when I'm going to a concert I can't hear the music clearly anyway it's more about the atmosphere and just having fun
I've seen Def Leppard live 31 times and there's no way Joe Elliott has ever lip synched. I've heard him sing when he was literally sick and he performed anyway. As far as backing tracks I don't believe they do that either. Effects....yes. But they've done that forever. They are amazing in concert and they are always true to their fans.
Because he took care of himself..........
Cool, but nobody accused him of lip-synching. He accused them of using backing tracks for the vocal harmonies. You can do both live and backing.
backing tracks, it does not mean lip synching. Backing tracks is for backing vocals over his vocals and the bands and just helping the sound. People have no idea.
@@mbellino85 And neither do you. You've no idea how much they're really using, other than the admitted fact they use them. If you don't care, then that's fine, but let's not pretend they're clean.
They are terrible live
I don’t feel that Chuck was being disrespectful.
He was simply referencing.
Chuck is a legend.
Def Leppard is another animal, altogether. 🖤
We cant compare.
All love for Chris Holmes, Joe Elliot, and Chuck Billy.
These bands are so completely different.
Much love, all.
Cheers! 🙏🖤🔊🤘
Chuck is being 100% disrespectful in this situation. And yes, he IS a legend too which makes this even more insane.
@@MetalMcfly How was he disrespectful, according to you?
I engaged with Alex Skolnick on it, his comment "I’ve listened to Def Lep headphone mix sidestage, courtesy of Phil C - all are playing/singing. Yes, there is lots of gloss - drum loops, keys, slick tone & audio production. They’re also on a click & very tight. That combination may sound prerecorded to some but it’s not “fake”
Its not necessary to name drop if you have no first hand evidence in a thing like this.
Thats how its disrespectful
Chuck who? Never even heard of him , or that other guy who called out Def Leppard. But I sure as hell know who Joe Elliott is!
From Chuck's bandmate, Alex Skolnick:
I’ve listened to Def Lep headphone mix sidestage, courtesy of Phil C - all are playing/singing. Yes, there is lots of gloss - drum loops, keys, slick tone & audio production. They’re also on a click & very tight. That combination may sound prerecorded to some but it’s not “fake”
No way he's doing that, I've seen Def Leppard live twice, I know he wasn't.
Def Leppard was 100% using backing tracks during their live show...in 1991. There is NO band anywhere that sounds live EXACTLY like the album. It's what makes live special.
@@lovejoyb20WASP
Same with me
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@lovejoyb20they didn't play live in 1991
I know Def Leppard uses EFFECTS for some songs like Love Bites, but my boys from Sheffield play their instruments and Joe Elliott sings every word of their songs. This is why I’ve loved them for so many years. Def Leppard are real rock n rollers, through and through.
Ok I’ve seen Def Leppard many many times where Joe’s voice was shot and he still sang…not always the best but he gave it his all. The backing vocals are doubled with effects and they are really good at singing the same parts they have been singing for decades. Unlike the Crue who clearly use backing vocal tracks and who should also consider using tracks for Vince or lowering the key for him.
The problem with Motley Crue's Vince is that it seems he can't keep up with the band. He skips words, mumbles or just has the audience sing it.
@@FreeMTrider Because they are not a real band! Hell nicky had a double in the 80's They all did!
@@dodgeramsport01I never heard of a double back then. I saw a lot of those bands back then. For myself, Shout at the Devil was their best. They went down hill from there. At least music wise.
Vince always sounds like he needs an oxygen tank
@@FreeMTrider Any Crue fan wants to see Vince at the best he can be, but he needs to be ultra fit and do the triple the work to get ready to even close to his young days, that is not a diss on him, but he was never a great singer, much like Diamond Dave.
Huge difference between lip syncing and using background vocals, or using backing tracks with synth, keyboards and special effects, and using recorded music your pretending to play, it's like the difference between a karaoke bar and a concert😂.
If the lead vocals, guitars and drums are live then it's a live show, it doesn't matter what's in the background as long as the main vocals guitars and drums are live. That's my opinion.
Bottom line they're either faking it or not.
Use all the backing tracks and samples and effects you want just don't fake it.
Def Leppard is not faking It.
Ashly Simson was ahead of her time.
And Milli Vanilli was before her with Girl you know it true hahaha. We live in the lip syncing backing track, fake it after you make it live music industry 😂.
UM lol lip singing been going on since the 50's. And the 80's was the worst. Most acts back then never played live. It was all pre recorded music. lol
For the win 🏆
😂
@caperbye474 that is so true. The only difference is that back then, the acts were opposed to it and hated it.
Singer 👨🎤 and multi-instrimentalist here. 🎶
I went to concerts of Def Leppard, Bryan Adams, others. No backing tracks. The harmonies are sung well because of 1 working with Mutt Lange and 2 working with voice coach Roger Love.
I bought 1 of his books 📚 and used the techniques. They made me a better singer! 👨🎤
Totally agree. These guys work out their vocals and they always have. They are professional and I think people mistake effects for backing tracks. Def Leppard can tour forever as far as I'm concerned.
That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard. Apparently Joe Elliott himself can’t convince you that they in fact you backing tracks for some vocals. You must play the male organ. Bone phone meat whistle and skin flute. No musician would ever repeat that nonsense.
Just saw them again this past year. No way he's using backing tracks.. His voice is showing his age.. Still sounds good, but it's obvious he's not using any tracks.. You hear the strain and age in his voice.. He's live 100%.
I agree. I actually would not of minded them or Motley Crue having some help on that stadium tour. They sounded bad. Poison, who I have never been a big fan of, didnt use anything, it was raw, and imo, blew everyone away.
Think if Joe gets to the point where he absolutely can't sing live anymore, he'll quit the gig rather than go on faking it. He just seems like that kind of person.
My source is, I was at Soundcheck when we played with them as well as Styx and foreigner. I played in saliva. If Dave ever did not use tracks, it would sound empty and very bare bones, which is not the leopard style and they were amazing. By the way they were actually playing with the tracks weren’t the vocals were not the drums were not. They were all playing. The backing tracks are simply bad backing. If you heard them by themselves, you wouldn’t even recognize the song. Same with Crue Hard to believe that Nikki Sixx toured for 40 years and never figured out how to play shadow of the devil three notes that it is. Goddamn you people must wipe back to front in fact, if you’ve been to a concert past the year 1990 then you have been the audience of backing tracks every band no exception. Every major production. No exceptions. It’s so the show is consistent. Nobody is faking shit. This ain’t motherfucking Beethoven
Hahah. He's been using backing tracks for years. You clowns are insane
I’ve been a huge Def Leppard fan for many years and I have seen them many many times and have been in the first row for many of them and there is no way they have ever or will ever lip sync to any of their songs. Nor will they use any of their instruments up on stage just for the sake of making themselves look good. They have always given 110% into their performances. I have always come away from a Def Leppard show in awe of just how great they are. They are a tight band. Professional musicians to the end. I can understand how a lot of people are jealous of them and don’t understand how they pull it off night after night. But you have to remember that they have been at this for a few years. To those who disagree I say when you become as talented as these five guys then you can offer an opinion.
Perfectly said.
I don't care whether bands use pre-recorded anything as long as the people who are buying the tickets are aware of EVERYTHING that's going on... it's the deception that I'm against.
I care. If I know a band is using backing tracks, I won't pay for tickets.
@MaterLacrymarum
I agree with you, and I wouldn't go see someone using backing tracks, hence my emphasis on disclosure.
@@castleanthrax1833 No-one is giving disclosure, that's the problem.
@@MaterLacrymarum And I said that I am against that.
@@MaterLacrymarum They're not giving disclosure because that could (SHOULD!!) result in claims of fraud & lawsuits. AND they know their bottom line/ticket sales will crater. They don't give 2 sh*ts about the fans, being "real" or being honest - ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY!!! And I'm not just calling out Def Leppard.....it's any band doing in and many are doing it now. I'd rather go see a good cover band who really plays/sings.
Of course he’s using effects and there’s nothing wrong with that. Everyone has since the beginning of rock n roll. What’s a distortion pedal? What is reverb on a sound desk? Well done Joe for putting it straight.
Def Leppard are 100% live i knows that Joe Elliott can still sing well one of the best bands on Earth!!!! Love my Def Leppard!!!!
If I'm paying $2-$3 hundred a ticket they better be on the up and up. No I wouldn't pay that much to see any band
Slipknot literally has a member of the band who runs the samples and nobody has a problem with it. So if you put a guy in the band, up on stage, pushing the button in front of you, you’re cool with that?
Triggering short samples = playing a note... ministry used to trigger samples like playing a keyboard (literally played froma midi keyboard) .... different than backing tracks. Unless its ran from a master track...even then its depends on how its applied.
@@redmondartwork respectfully he does a lot more than short samples. But I’m going to go ahead and assume yes you are OK with it as long as the guy is a member of the band..
@@luchagain3424 well, they are nu-metal which has rap/hip-hop influences. Linkin Park has a DJ and everyone is fine with that.
Not everyone has a problem with it. I'm pretty sure it's just a small number of very noisy people.
I love Def Leppard for 35 years and everytime I hear rock of Ages , or any high parts of there song you can tell they don’t use any backing tracks
Funny thing, I’m not a huge Def Leppard fan but have still ended up at a few of their shows over the years. The last time I saw them, I remember thinking holy sh1t, Phil Collin is actually a bad ass player. I have not doubt that they are still pulling off the vocal harmonies live. They were great singers back in the day recording to tape before you could even fake it with tech. It’s not ridiculous to think they can still pull off the vocals. They weren’t difficult, they are just well arranged harmonies and still sound good.
This was a great, and informative installment! I love ROCKFEED, its the absolute best for rock and metal news!✌🏼
There are only a few bands that sound as great live as they do on tape. Kings x is one of those bands. And to Joe Elliott's point, you can tell when it is live when someone is flat or their voice is strained. But I like that because it confirms that the band is actually singing.
I’m 67 and thankfully in good health so I’m rooting for Joe Elliot who is my age. I will say this as we age our vocal range lessens and we can’t do what we once took for granted. I have no idea what is going on with Def Leppard but it seems obvious that numerous bands enhance their stage show to keep a quality level high which if you think about it is what fans want. The fans want a good show. So, if they double track vocals to make the singer sound stronger who cares? Or if they have tracks that are prerecorded playing with live tracks it seems it is happening to make a better show. Double tracking vocals is nothing knew. In the 1960’s there could be occasions where a studio singer could sing with the band singer to enhance the vocal. I don’t think band’s getting help through technology is a bad thing as long as it is to boost the performance.
Appreciate this comment. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🙏
But how many people want to see Wasp as opposed to Def Lep? Go ahead, Chris, play live for 500 people 😂
I saw Lenny Kravitz fake an entire show. He did 2 songs actually singing but the whole rest was fake including his band. It was at AT&T corp event here in Dallas in 2019.
I've seen Lenny several times myself. No way it was faked. Maybe he didn't care sincd it was a corporate event. Why would any performer care about a crowd at an event where most of the ppl there don't really care about the performance?
@@chrisguerra9631
Exactly. He just didn’t give a f**k, which is understandable. Seen him live a couple of times and nobody was faking anything. He’s always had a great band. ✌️
I saw Def Leppard last year in Perú, AND believe me, they weren't lip synching. Joe Elliott has aged so well and doesn't need It.
Look what Milli Vanilli started!!!!! 😮😂
These people have clearly never seen Def Leppard live.
Sooo.... I'm just a metal head wondering ...what the f is a puff daddy.. and if the dudes name is puff anything 😜 why the f anyone took that dude seriously in any way in the first place...I can't see the metal community putting up with any of that... Just 😳 WOW
News reports are about person called P. Diddy. You’re referring to his alias from twenty five years ago. You know more than you allege.
No one has called him puff daddy in 20 years lol
@@jr2904 can we be sure about that??
Lol mega cringe comment
Concert tickets are $100s. Ticket sites should be legally required to post disclaimers if artists use any amount of “backing tracks” or prerecorded vocals or instruments.
Been battling the anti backtrack basic bros since 2001..small Town Iowa band we used keyboards but I couldn't play keys and guitar live. We had electric drum loops under live drums. Then we would pull vocal effects because they were essier than messing with effects equipment life. For awhile I was.sick.of the rotating bass player situation so all were replaced by a plug In. One less person, less drama! Guitars drums all vocals always live.
Lots of older bands seem to have 3 or 4 (mostly female) backing singers and they add to the sound very effectively.
Seems like a good way of ensuring it's all 'live' on the night.
The guys in Def leppard CAN SING and still to this very day. Seen them countless times and they definitely singing all of their parts.
I could see them using the "women" line in the song "women" but they don't. They sing all the parts.
I can usually tell when people use backing tracks, I have never ever noticed anything along those lines with Def Leppard. They work hard and take pride in their vocals, and this is obvious. Sometimes you can hear some rough spots as to be expected, but they usually sound amazing and very natural. Chuck Billy is probably jealous or just don’t understand how they can be so good
Of course they used backing tracks. Hysteria was such a layered deal. It would be impossible to replicate that sound with just the band.
Audiences expecting Joe Elliot (or anyone for that matter) to sing songs in the same key and with the same gusto at age 64 as he did in his 20s, 30s and even 40s is just not realistic. The choice is either down tune songs so he can hit the notes, which sometimes sounds weird, or give some grace with the allowance of backing tracks. I choose the latter.
Sav explains how Def Leppard uses samples on a video on the band's official channel.
It's from a few months ago.
Also, Phil Collen's recent interview with Chris Shiflet has a snippet where he says their vocals are live.
Seriously people. You just watch this video two seconds before you made a comment.
Nobody is accusing Joe Elliott of lip syncing. Chuck was talking about how they use backing tracks for the vocal harmonies. Harmonies.!
And he even said it was an exeption to the rule cause they wouldn't be able to achieve this kind of backing vocals otherwise, but well, people enjoy taking interpreting things the wrong way. 🤷♂
You can also use a vocal doubler/ harmonizer live ...turn 4 singers into 8 into 12 etc... not a backing track .... but definitely helping it so sound huge.
Joe don’t lip sync they have effects that are pre recorded especially on songs like Rocket but he sings his parts I know this for a fact and they are playing there instruments I know this because I saw one time when Phil’s wireless malfunction they his guitar just went away tech came and replaced the part real quick
Testament and Def Leppard are both awesome! Legends!
As it should be!!~ re: Joe Elliott SHOULD be calling them out❗He isn't messing around ✅
Chuck has the most versatile metal vocalist. He can do thrash, death metal and he has a hell of a clean vocal. The man is a chemelion
Chuck is a badass! I've seen Testament a few times and he has always been all in, hell, that goes for the whole band.
It's all so unbelievably fake at this point, with technology doing all the work.
I'll never understand people paying such inflated costs for nostalgia & miming.
I agree with Joe Elliott and I grew up with Def Leopard!!
Same here, man.
This is a very true subject.
Re enforcement is fine on the occasional track and for Lepperd they're recreating Mutt Lange's full on production. It's clear Joe is singing live and that's the main thing
Testament and Def Leppard are from both ends of the spectrum. I’ve seen both bands live and I’ve never left either gig disappointed.
Def Lep 1982 Palladium NYC with original lineup. Their background vocals sounded like a pro chorus. Your bringin on the heartbreak- AY-AKE!!!!❤
Maybe a few backing vocals but I seen Joe live. There’s a few times I heard the background vocals and the odd lead vocals bleed on a word or two. But he’s still singing
Def Leppard use sound effects, such as the opening robotic voice in the beginning of Love Bites. Rick Allen hits drum triggers that set off little bits of drum loops occasionally. And they play to a click track (a metronome) for timing. Sometimes they are playing along to video footage on stage, and need to be synced up to that. The click track guides that. Rick Savage plays some synth parts on foot pedals. And a few small keyboard riffs are set of from a sampler. But they are playing live, singing live, and setting off a few drum triggers and samples. They are not just fake playing.
Rocket wouldn't be the same without the studio intro
I can remember hearing ‘On Through the Night’ while living in the UK in the early 80’s . Thinkin’ it was ‘Friday Night Rock Show’ with Tommy Vance…… Good times! ✌️
I would freak out with backing tracks. I saw DEVO in 1983. At one point the 5 band members walked off the stage one by one but the music was still playing. I over heard a guy near me freaking out asking his buddy how is that possible? No one’s in stage and the music is still playing. His buddy said it’s synthesizers, synthesizers.
It never used to be that way.
live shows were live shows across the board
And now they mime and ticket prices are up 10 fold.
It has been going on since the 90's, at least. For Joe to say they are 100% not using tapes, I'm sure that's true. We have been using digital and synth technology since the 90's. The synths of the 80's were automated and pre-programmed. Who uses tapes, in today's digital age? I stopped trying to convince people that we have used this tech for decades. My synths can trigger almost anything.
Def Leppard are the real deal// They actually sing . and as far as loops that expand Ricks mix.. Bring em on.. Hes the flipping Thunder God!!! You damn well know that they are playing live.
On one hand, its sad that our bands are getting too old to do it at the level they did. On the other, these next 20 years will be IT for seeing live bands from the classic era of music ( 60s -early 90s)
I think if there are some back up sounds and effects that it can fit but lip syncing is gross. Def Leppard does not do this!!! They have cleverly made adjustments with harmonies etc. But that even shows their talent even more. Rock on rock of ages!!
Man this is still a hot debate? I guess I get it but I feel like it shouldn't be anymore. Minimal backing tracks are acceptable and/or especially if your music has some sort of electronic parts. There are just some pieces of music that can't be performed any other way, period. Other than that, play your instruments and sing live. I'm a nobody but there's my humble opinion. Great coverage, great video as usual. 🤘😬
To be clear, that first instance of minimal backing tracks I'm referring to would be vocals, mostly backup.
This shouldn't even be a controversy - Def Leppard doesn't use backing tracks and never has. Def Leppard's recent Whiskey show (which is up on their UA-cam channel) is mostly live with some of the more electronic and sampled stuff from Hysteria coming through on an obvious backing track - which is more than understandable. All of the vocals are live - including the backing vocals. Joe has taken care of his voice as well as you can when you sing like that. He sings all the high stuff in falsetto now but the reverb on his vocals makes it sound really good. And the rest of the band does amazingly with the backing vocals - it's been one of their hallmarks going back to the Pyromania days. I know they seem like a band who should be a no-brainer for using backing tracks but they don't.
Rick Allen lost his arm on New Year's Eve 1984. It was reattached, then amputated again on January 4th, 1985.
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Live should be live period!
They usually improvise as best they can. Go listen to Vegas 2019. Billy’s Got a Gun, how they share vocal parts. Viv usually takes the high chorus parts “ can you feel it in the air!” It’s not a entire gang of vocals. Between Joe, Sav, Phil and Viv they just get it done.
Truth is DL lost their original sound starting with we know who. They have to add extra tricks to get close to that studio hits sound. If it wasn't for the heavy production and ballads they never would've gained all those female fans and big record sells.
I still prefer their original raw Rock sound.🤘
I don't think Joe is using backing tracks. But, I might question the backing vocals for added depth.
Seeing Def Leppard in concert has been on my bucket list for as long as I can remember. I'm finally getting to see them in July. I could careless if they did use backing tracks. They don't have anything to prove to me.
This subject makes me glad to be a Megadeth fan. We know darn well Dave isn't using a backing track! 😃
Def Leppard's sound checks are better than most bands live shows. Def Leppard is a vocal band and the guys pride themselves on that fact. They spend about 45 minutes before each show just doing vocal warmups. Their behinds the scenes tour videos show how hard they work to deliver a quality show. Vivian Campbell who previously played in several high profile bands has said that Def Leppard has the best work ethic of any band he has ever been associated with. That probably goes back to Sav and Joe growing up in Sheffield.
I just watched several recent live videos of Def Leppard. I can definitely hear the effects. But they're not using backing tracks for vocals or for the instruments other than synthesizer and some drum stuff.
If everyone on stage is actually singing or playing their instruments, I don't care how many backing tracks there are.
I saw Motley Crue 10 yrs ago and Vince Neil's vocals were stellar. I was so confused because I knew it wasn't real. I saw Falling in Reverse a few months back. I know how they use their tracks. I love how open they are about the technology they use and they are not trying to fool us. Motley totally was and that is wrong!
I’ve seen DL live three times from the 90s to 2022. All live. They are a band that sings.
I watched their recent show at The Whiskey and you could tell 100% they were live. Strong and week it was authentic. And as far a live band goes, those guys are ridiculously polished as players. They can play. Vocal effects, absolutely, no doubt about an H3000 across the vocals.
Yep. If I'm going to a concert, I want to hear live music. I don't care if they screw it up a little bit. Or if the singer's voice cracks now and then. That makes it all real and I respect that. Lip syncing is phoning it in. I could've saved my money, stayed home and listened to my cd's. Yes, I still buy hard copies including vinyl. But, live? You better be playing and singing live. Nothing beats live music! I can live with what Joe explained. But, lip syncing is cheating. It's like taking steroids in sports. And I will mock you for it. I haven't been at a show yet where it's happened. But, if I was, I would demand a refund. I'm there to listen first and foremost. No amount of lasers, or explosions is going to make me happy if you're up there faking it. Period.
I've seen Def Leppard 10X and I can guarantee you that Joe's singing live. They are phenomenal in concert and 100% worth every penny. Is it a very polished show? Absolutely! But they've been doing this for 40+ years
Concerts should be live period.
Listen to the Hysteria album kids. Full of effects. The same on stage. I'm heavy into music and see most shows. These guys are just that good.
The artist can do whatever they want but I think they need to tell the fans what they are doing. I love all kinds of music from jam bands to metalcore , I would love to see some more magic moments in metal like you see in jam bands
Don Henley has left the conversation.
The same people who defend backing tracks are the same idiots who defended stealing music back in the day.
🏆 the award for dumbest analogy ever.
I don't think Joe Elliot is lip syncing. I do think they use the tracks on the backup vocals to enhance them.
I go to a lot of concerts and I notice a lot of the older singers are lip synching or using backing tracks more and more the last few years
I remember even back in the 80's ZZ Top used either tape or offstage musicians during the Eliminator tour.
I’m happy for all stadium bands to use backing tracks. Four or five instruments just ain’t enough to make that ‘full’ sound.
Funny how the smaller barroom bands are the ones that usually complain. They’d understand if they played anywhere bigger than a bingo hall!
I don't no about heavily used but all bands today use some sort of backing tracks to help make the experience sound as close to what you hear on the studio recordings !
Not sure there's backing tracks, but there sure are live vocals. I've heard these guys in acoustic settings with full live harmonies. They do not sound like the records but they do sound great.
My band cannot find a decent bass player. We are a cover group, so we used a backing track. We don't want to use a backing track, but its the only way we can play since a bass player doesn't exist in our area that actually, you know, KNOWS HOW TO PLAY THE GOD DAMN BASS!
Man.... Eddy "I know everybody" Trunk started a wildfire with this subject! 🤘🏼🤣
Def Lep has been 1000% live since the late 70s. Well documented. NOT like the other bands, they are just another level. I do not think they will be out for too many more years if they cannot do it...
Bands like Leppard use synths and audio sweeteners as well as multiple tracks and overdubs in the studio that you can’t replicate live onstage without “help”.
Chuck is one of the sincerest people in metal. He is very well mannered, and he was trying to make a nuanced point from the view of a fan going to concerts. I'm kind of a purest about shows and how they should be delivered, in the most natural way possible without enhancing effects. Even as I say this though, I know most drummers at shows would not sound good if their bass drums weren't triggered. So, I'd leave it up to the band to decide what kind of enhancement features they use and where they put them.
Well said
Joe Elliot has always been a real pro. He doesn’t use tracks for his lead vocal. There are tracks for backing vocals though, which given the production of their records, is understandable.
This is why I’m glad James Hetfield fucks up or purposely alters lyrics so much at Metallica shows. It proves he never uses tracks.
A band on tour- singing every other night, greeting and talking to fans, talking during radio and tv interviews- no wonder their voices suffer. I have no issue with tracks used tastefully.
I have always thought Elliot was mostly using a harmonizer.
😂 My man Joe. I love that guy! As long as the main vocals are live, I personally don't see a problem with it. I will pay ridiculous amounts of money to see Ghost live, because Tobias Forge puts on one hell of a show. I'm absolutely sure he has to use backing tracks for some of the songs like Faith. The main vocals are real, and the Ghouls harmonize. He forgets words sometimes, or you can hear an off note in a guitar riff every now and then. The only way I have a problem is if they say it's 100% real and it's not. Just don't lie and it's all good! Providing that they still put their all into singing the main vocals.
What everyone forgets, a singers voice is literally a part of their body. Their voices evolve as they age... Singers can't change their vocal chords like a guitarist changes strings. I'm a singer who has endured the rest of the band upset with me needing a break... sorry guys, but if my voice is one, I only have 1 throat. I wouldn't expect a drummer or guitarist to play with an injury...
Most singers use a chorus pedal and reverb on vocals. It is not cheating.
FACT - Leppard's backing vocals are from the band members except 'The Thunder God'. 'Mutt' Lange had a massive role in this when recording 'Pyromania' - Colllen has said it took him a long time to sing 'and' play, the late brilliant lyrical, musical and live genius of this band Steve 'The Riffmaster' Clark also sang but not as much as he just dazzled live. Why these two have made this allegation is bizarre - Vivian is arguably the bands best vocalist but ALL three sing live.
I saw Def Leppard here in Sydney late last year on there Australasian tour,The performance was spectacular and I was really impressed! Yes I think it was enhanced but it’s the performance that counts!