Patrick McNamara - Can Religion Be Explained Without God?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Religion without God? Most people believe that God exists and religion is God's revelation. But some say religion, particularly the organization of religion into institutions, needs nothing supernatural to begin, develop and multiply. In other words, religion without God can flourish because personal psychology and group sociology drive religion.
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Doesn't Buddhism have no concept of personal god?
Correct. In Buddhism, you are taught to take control of your life. In Abrahamic religions, you are taught to surrender this control to an invisible deity, "out there" someplace.
And Taoism
*What is God? Does he exists?*
The concept or notion of a personal God, hiding behind the clouds of secrecy, telling us irrational stories through few men whom he sends as messengers, demanding us to worship him or punish us, does not make sense. I don't think that God is as silly as an autocratic emperor who wants others to respect him or fear him." Such notions are just fancies of less educated human imagination and fallacies.
*You can do better, you can be free, you can be happy if you start believing in yourself.*
Loving each and every creation of God is absolute and real. In Sanskrit, "Isavasyam idam sarvam" The God is present (inhabits) here everywhere - nothing exists separate from God, because God is present everywhere. Respect every living being and non-living things as God because he is a timeless and formless entity.
*We Hindus never fear of God. For us, God is everywhere and we are also an integral part of God. God is not a separate entity to fear.*
Namaste
@@bvshenoy7259 Hey, isn't that a copy and paste from the "I am a Hindu" face book page?
I agree but I gotta tell you, the only people in this world who believe in a personal god are the religions descended from Abraham. Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Most of the world is more evolved than that.
And, despite the radically different roles of control, Hinduism has more gods than all the other religions in the world combined. Even if you brought back all the gods who have fallen by the way side.
Hare Krishna and all hail Shiva. I just wish you guys had a monkey God.
Oh, wait a minute.
But I get your point. Gods are metaphors for aspects of us. No gods are real.
Also pastafarianisn doesn't have a personal God, it's more like a monster.
Religion is the mass or shared belief in something in the form of a way of life or an ancient text and the deity is the reason for this belief or faith
Where is God in Buddhism? Nowhere!
He's the original Buddha.
SB 1.3.24: Then, in the beginning of Kali-yuga, the Lord will appear as Lord Buddha, the son of Añjanā, in the province of Gayā, just for the purpose of deluding those who are envious of the faithful theist.
Www.vedabase.io/en/library/sb/1/3/24
@@PaulHoward108 so Buddha and Jesus are "the same" God also described in the Bible?
@@rafael.frigori I don’t have time to reply, but Paul is very wrong. Buddha is a human, the first enlightened one of a Buddhism. He may be respected and admired for his teaching and leadership, but he is not a god. Buddhism doesn’t work like that.
@@danielpaulson8838 The Buddha who founded modern Buddhism isn't the original Buddha. The Vedas describe a prior Buddha, who is a form of Viṣṇu, the Personality of Godhead. www.stephen-knapp.com/were_there_two_buddhas.htm
Religion is best understood psychologically, neurologically, culturally, and in evolutionary terms.
The brain states that lead to this UA-cam comment are best understood psychologically, neurologically, culturally, and in evolutionary terms.
@Al Garnier No, it's adaptive. Brain structures have evolved to do religion. If anything atheism is the disorder - despite being true.
@@bozo5632 Prove that atheism is true. Bigot.
@@bozo5632 that kind of atheism its what makes yall dishonest , assuming that there isnt a God without any good evidence whatsoever is intelectually dishonest and u should legit be ashamed of urself
Religion can BEST be explained without gods.
If gods were real the religions wouldn't make any sense at all.
Huh?
Political, social, and artistic inputs with some altered-state experiences thrown in the mix. Yes, religion can be explained without God.
02:05 - 02:15 - Humans from anywhere and from any background reports the same spiritual, magical, coincidental phenomena at the same level and same consistency and to the same effect. And we know it's not very repeatable or testable. What we know is that the human brain and the cosmos is present in all of those. The Crystal's, God's, Cards, Spirit's, Astral alignments etc, are unnecessary fluff. It's just us. We gotta look inward to find the source. Not outward.
Its time to take back the old gods - the gods related to nature.
If we agree that God exists, how do we then get to "Christ died on the cross for your sins?"
He misunderstands the first question entirely.
No he didn’t. And he answered it very well.
@@danielpaulson8838 on his first pass he misunderstood it and then kuhn clarified and it went better -you're right though.
First comment!!!!!💜💜💜💜💜💜
Can conspiracy theories be explained without conspiracies? Can cult membership be explained without a divine hand involved?
00:55 Patrick McNamara: "I have never seen any religion without a supernatural agent" Really? Buddhism? Jainism? Samkhya? Taoism?
All of those have supernatural agents.
In every case you are the supernatural agent 🙄
Yes, but you will need words. You can't explain it without words.
Another question:
Can God be explained without religion?
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My hunch is that when we dig down into our deepest reality, nothing can be verified.
We come to a bedrock of intuition and speculation. From this grounding I suspect we place our ultimate trusts, beliefs and hopes and loves bounded by our temperaments and life's experience.
In this none of us can ever be fully sure and be all the same. Each of us cannot know everything.
Let's be open and humble.
Go for it, Robert. I tend to think there is no Holy Grail.
These kind of absurd explanations have been going on for a long time. Extreme hubris, ‘we know what they have been doing’. Really? Neither science, nor religion.
Love ❤ Patrick. I suffer from extreme insomnia. Have seen the next dimension wich does!! Include help.
I used to believe that reality is bought about purely by applying the mathematics of chance and probability, but over the decades I’ve come to the conclusion that the universe is conscious and chooses the outcomes as it desires.That is why I am now a Problacist (see Problacism.com) and why I have everything a person should want in life.
For heaven's sake, interivew Matt Dillahunty.
I think this is more of a Dawkins crowd. Dillahunty is great, but they don't guest atheists even though they guest theists. They show science vs silly.
On multiple levels, yes of course it can. It is a bit like asking if Lord of The Rings can be understood without Gandalf really having magical powers that can translate into the real world.
Religions in the East don't have a God.
But Sir, what is the reason of the reason . We have explanatory power. But it is mystery why we are capable to explain the Universe. Because Concioisness is every where.It's a taughtology mechanism. Why do the explanations have explanatory power ? All Scientists taught us that every mystrey in the Nature can be explained. This is not faith! Because somehow intelligence is involved with the Nature.
Our brains are mini quantum computers. The universe changes us and we change the universe. Look at the double slit experiment and delayed choice quantum eraser experiment
the question is, what do people who believe in an omnicient and omni-present deity do for PRIVACY!!! they are, either 24/7 hypocrites or they are in a monastery.
ten thousand years ago, why would anyone have bought into something like superstition/religion. answer: doing so is a desperate attempt to make sense of the struggles/unfairness that are part of the human condition. googletranslate
You're asking the question backward. The real question is "can religion be explained with God?"
Can GOD be explained with religion? Certainly NOT.
Obviously
Evolution is the creation myth of our age. By telling us our origins it shapes our views of what we are. It influences not just our thought, but our feelings and actions too, in a way which goes far beyond its official function as a biological theory. To call it a myth does not of course mean that it is a false story. It means that it has great symbolic power, which is independent of its truth.
To understand the actual world as it is, not as we should wish it to be, is the beginning of wisdom.
We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe “peoples". Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe.
All this thing that we call 'life,' with its frantic concerns, is a big act, which you-in your unconscious depths-are deliberately setting up. So, you can do one of two things when you discover this. You can become a private buddha who doesn't tell anything. Or you can become a bodhisattva. Pratyekabuddha goes off into his ecstasy, and never is seen again. Bodhisattva is one who appears in the everyday world, and plays the game of the everyday world, by the rules of the everyday world. But he brings with him 'upaya.' He brings with him some way of showing that he's been on the journey and he's going to let you in on the secret too. If you... if, if, if... you'll play it cool to join in the everyday life of everyday people. Because, this is the rule: if the world is dramatic... if the world is a divine act put on by the divine self, one of the rules of coming on stage is that you don't come on as yourself... you come on as the part that you're going to play.
Disorder and meaninglessness are the mother of order and meaning. Order and meaning are things that have become.
We are the universe experiencing itself ...
Ego is the facade that we hide behind
to gain separate experiences.
It allows us to interact ...
I am he as you are she as you are me …
And we are all together ..
From archaic times till present: religion is a belief system which connects people and provides them with a sense of belonging. Religion is where people derive their meaning of life, their mores and values. As it is man-made- serving a purpose, gods are not necessarily at its center. Organized religion started with gods at their center. But their are still many surviving archaic belief systems/religions which are not god-centered.
Religion is with us for thausands of year’s, and effected even on our brains evolution, the only solution is that to looking after the new generations, and new brains.
Another really great question! especially from a brain expert! It goes a bit further than my original thinking of trauma or miracle
Reducing whole objects to component parts discards meanings. Atheistic science thereby skews the information from science to falsely portray a fundamentally meaningless reality, making theories literally contradicting their own existence.
The only way to explain everything is to treat meanings as fundamental and accept the existence an ultimate meaning as the independent form of the complete whole.
We know the answer to the ultimate question....
It’s 42
Two plus two is equal to four, everything else is religion.
The ability to beleive is organic founded, like dogs say wuf, and cats say miow.
The Eternal Life is Nameless in it's own eternal nature, No one created the Eternal Life,
The Eternal Living Beings are creators,
God is a name.
No one have seen the Living behind the Beings.
An analog to understand God, is to see the Earth from a distance, one part is in light, and one part is in shadow,
so, the lights-beings is the awake God,(-ness) and the shadow-beings, are the renewing of God/Lifes consciousness, the beleivers.
The difference between 'God' and the Life-Units, (Life-units inside Life-Units-inside Life-Units, inside Life-Units) is that 'God' is the Final Life-Unit, which is Not in a Life-Unit, but holds all and any Life-Units.
So, this is the eternal mathematic of understanding the mystery of God
Dear Freind,
Language without mathematic, is No language, and Mathematic without language is Not mathematic.-
So,
two and two is twentytwo,,
and,
Two plus two is equal to four.
So, tray if You can escape from reality,
and if You can deny your own existence
The ability to beleive, is decreasing according to the growing intelligence.
Without the Perspective-Principle, Intelligence and Mathematic would Not work.
(Logic, is 'mathematic in color')
In the Hermetic religion the supreme Deity, or Principle, is referred to variously as 'God', 'The All', or 'The One'. Many Hermeticists also align their beliefs and mystical ideas with other religions, including Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, mainstream Paganism, or Islam. This pluralism is related to a form of doctrinal essentialism, which holds that all great religions have equivalent mystical truths at their core and that all religions are, in some way, compatible with the esoteric tenets of Hermeticism. this is where I personally find balance, structure, faith, foundation, and I try to work the 7 hermetic principles into my everyday life.
(this is just my own personal beliefs that I'm sharing, I am in no way trying to steer or suggest anyone to believe, agree, or do what I do.)
Do what thou wilt.
As Above
So Below
ty again "closer to the truth" for another great video, I appreciate you.
Too many -isms.
@@ferdinandkraft857 ( you are not wrong!,lol)
"Can Religion Be Explained Without God?"
Well, if a Berkeleyan form of Panentheism is true - a concept that declares that the entire universe is created from the mental fabric of God's very being, then *nothing* can be explained without God; for if God did not exist, then neither would the universe exist.
In which case, I suggest that the reason why religion is pervasive across all human cultures...
(or at least the reason why the sense of something "supernatural" is pervasive across all human cultures)
...is because our very bodies and brains are created from, again, the living mental fabric of God's personal being.
I like to use the extreme metaphor of us being like watermelon seeds suspended within the darkness of the pulp of the watermelon.
And because of our limited perspective as seeds held within the melon's viscera (like fetuses within a womb), we are not able to apprehend the overall reality of the melon.
However, due to the fact that our bodies and brains (seed pods) are literally a part of the melon itself, then at least some of us seeds become vaguely (intuitively) aware of the higher reality of the melon, and thus create imaginative descriptions of what we think the melon "God" (and the outer "garden") might be like - hence the invention of the world's religions.
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What utter garbage...
Can you demonstrate that your idea has any truth?
No you can’t...
It’s speculative nonsense
@@chrisgreen8803
Of course it is speculation.
However, in keeping with the implications of what I (speculatively) suggested in the initial post, your negative comment is exactly what an *unconscious seed* would have to say about it.
yes
God exists in the minds of people who have no confidence in themselves
Purpose of religion is to discover God.
For a small fee.
God can be explained without Religion .
@Al Garnier know what's ignorant -- needing evidence so it's valid of believing in.
Ignorant because you're not aware of anything that you're not aware of and so the mystery is God; today your kind will discard everything because you only value evidence -- no matter how little you have, it's your crutch you lean against and to even utilize like religious people do with God.
Instead of the "being" in human and experiences, and wisdom, and enlightenment... to a materialists it's all nonsense because nothing matters other than evidence.
I'm not surprised by the materialists and their methedology. Just don't have double standards claiming your belief is better than others.
God is real as the Sun. Intuition is real as feeling the Sun. Manifestation is real as I.
When have you ever read a book written by a materialist that can compare to the bible?
You knock peoples believes, so what is your explanation of said scientific evidence that the modern man has accumulated... can you summarize it?
When you're done can you explain why it's so dull, dry, lame compared to scripture?
Why does it seem like it was written by a humanoid without a "being". Why no wisdom, experiences, metapgors, teachings, poetry, mystery etc. ?
religion without god is like a non-alcoholic beer - a so boring experience
Beer? Light weight. But I certainly do see your connection
@@danielpaulson8838 gods will be guards
@@stunningkruger You just made me flash on a beer logo I saw in Utah some years back.
"Polygamy Porter. Why just have one?"
Probably wasn't officially sanctioned by the LDS.
@@danielpaulson8838 lol .. drink deep of life though eventually it will invariably damage the liver
thats you answer. placebo effects. placebo = God. checkmate atheists.
Religion is the interaction of people and things, not sure can be explained wirhout God who is manifest in the interaction of people and things.
You guys tend to see religion in terms of institutions. The Bible starts from the non-existence. Before, there's nothing.
There was a begging, a point in time when there's no time. "In the beginning, God created The Heaven and the Earth"
Some other none canonical tell you that the angels created men. The Angel, called Johovah, God's manifestation is the only one actually known and seen.
Then, Jesus says, that no man has ever seen God. He talks about the Father, the originator. Was he talking about God, the Angel; probably, not exactly considering that the Angel was God, but not really. He was the manifestation of God and subject to God as well.
Can anyone explain God? First, we must ask, does anyone really knows God. According to Jesus, He did.
Jesus is our path to God in the journey of life through understanding Jesus way, we understand God's purpose.
You don't know of the existence of the invisible unless you get intrigued by the effects as Jesus said. If you don't believe in me; believe in the works. Because what I have seen from the Father is what I do.
God is known by His works, not by his looks.
Everything that is a representation, an image isn't God, but gives us an idea what what is real.
God is what it is true.
God and science should not be divorced entities. When science undermines the natural order, it falls into witchcraft and becomes harmful rather than a bless.
There is no god
Very well said
@@reembagadi7875
Thanks