In 1984 i was a hs all american triple option qb. Barry Switzer even came to my hs and surprised me at a pep ralley. He told my mom and dad that I would be a great fit and would probably start after a redshirt year I was so excited I committed without even a visit. Three weeks later i got a call from their recruiter who told me that they had to recind their offer, they unexpectedly stumbled on another qb that fit their system better. Boy did they made a good choice. Damn Jamelle Holiway. :)
Late in this video you were narrating Oklahoma's dominating 1975 season that was shockingly interrupted by the Kansas Jayhawks 23-3 shellacking of the Sooners on Oklahoma's stadium turf. What you failed to mention in that segment was the fact that KU's offense in that game, was, in fact the same WISHBONE offense you've been chronicling throughout the video, with Head Coach Bud Moore leading the Jayhawks from the sidelines with Nolan Cromwell quarterbacking. Cromwell's athletic ability and clever ballhandling, along with runs by Norris Banks, Laverne Smith and Billy Canfield kept the Sooners off balance the entire game while the numerous turnovers sealed the Sooners fate. In my lifetime it's the sweetest win KU ever had over Oklahoma, a team they have had very little success against since the two schools have competed on the gridiron.
12:58 A team is punished not because of a single incident, but because there is a culture of cheating. Cheating is very hard to prove because all parties wants what they are receiving so badly that they will deny, deny, deny, hide, hide, hide. Oklahoma was winning because of their cheating, but Switzer is going to win with the remainder of the cheating players to prove his innocence. This is a common reaction, that the cheaters feel they are victims, that they earned it, and besides, they'll tell you, everyone else is doing it!
15:09: That Kansas team also ran the wishbone, which was quarterbacked by Nolan Cromwell who rushed for 1,124 yards that year and went on to a stellar career in the NFL as a defensive back.
Notre Dame was the wishbone’s kryptonite back then. It worked great against everybody else, but always seemed to fail when it went against the Irish. Ara Parseghian seemed to be the only coach in the country that truly knew how to beat it.
I remember Nebraska absolutely demolishing Notre Dame 40-6 in a bowl game, I guess it was in '72. Just a horrible night for a kid who rooted for the Irish. Had to go to school the next day too, which made it even worse.
In 1976, Alabama and Notre Dame had their first regular season matchup; prior to that the other games were in the Sugar and Orange Bowls. In the first half of the '76 game, ND slowed down Bama's wishbone. In the second half, Bama's wishbone was almost unstoppable. Tide QB Jeff Rutledge's pass was intercepted in the end zone late in the fourth quarter and if I remember correctly, Alabama had another possession in which they turned the ball over by coming up short on fourth down. The final score was Notre Dame 21, Alabama 18. The Achilles heel of the Wishbone offense is the possibility of turnovers, but it's a ball-control offense that's very effective and fun to watch for anyone who enjoys triple-option football.
I played against the wishbone. A lot of a defense's success were functions of -good defensive tackles who could neutralize the fullback -speed at linebacker -assignment football; you just wanted to make the offense execute and let it make mistakes.
Now this, along with the live marching band music, is why I loved NCAA football more than NFL football! I know that the NFL separates the men from the boys, but in the NFL you almost NEVER see the option at all, let alone the wishbone! It all about passing! I think the option makes football even more exciting to watch! Perhaps the NFL should someday try it too!
Ara Parseghian was the wishbone’s ultimate enemy. He knew how to beat it well before Miami showed the world in the 80s He dominated Alabama and Texas at the height of their powers in the 60s and 70s. Bear Bryant never beat Ara, and Royal only beat him once If Ara could’ve beat McKay in LA more often, he would be remembered as the greatest HC of all time.
Mark Harmon (NCIS) was the QB of UCLA. OK recruited him, but his dad, Heisman winner Tom Harmon from Michigan, was living in Southern Cal. and wanted Mark to stay closer to home. OK had to use Steve Davis as QB.
Did watch a lot of teams running the wishbone back in the 70s but some also ran the vear which is similar to wishbone except for two backs instead of 3. Wishbone teams were not very good when it came to obvious passing situations but were able to surprise defenses with a bomb especially when receivers were getting single coverage or cornerbacks cheating more to stop the run, did see Alabama and Oklahoma pull this off a couple of times.
That was a great team. Part 4 is going to feature a few other teams that ran the wishbone in addition to OU and Bama and Part 5 will be about it’s decline. There’s a surprisingly large amount of stuff to talk about!
Not enough on the Wishbone and too much rehash of certain schools and years with highlights that have nothing to do w the Wishbone. And no explanation for when Oklahoma gets held to 3 or 7 pts for how those defenses stopped the Wishbone. Plus the narrator sounds like Darth Vader w those loud breaths every few seconds. Still an interesting series and great concept for such an important, complicated & often forgotten part of college football. The Wishbone in all its precision is a main reason college and pro football had independent audiences and why the college game was more popular
Another great video! You have some amazing footage. This is a ton of work on your part. That Iron Bowl win by Auburn is called the "Punt, Bama, Punt" game 13:47 Just unfair to run the option and then throw a pass... One tiny quibble. 6:37 That is the great Tennessee QB Condredge Holloway fumbling.
Which is why the multiple-I by Osborne with the right QB was a national title formula. Frazier, Berringer and Frost all proved that if you could complete just enough passes and keep those chains moving you would wear down the defense and they had no hope. The formula was perfect until you handed the reigns to an interception machine like Eric Crouch.
I always thought that wishbone offenses were really enjoyable to watch. The weakness? Passing. What happens when a wishbone team meets a strong team and gets behind? Usually they couldn’t pass very well, and good defenses could load up the box and stop them.
can you give me your views on why Royal helped Oklahoma! i wonder what the big pocketed alumni thought of that..not like this is another conference member, but a hated rival..college football in rivalries were blood battles..still am stunned to hear that this transpired..so how about a video and solicit views from your members..you appear to have a rather astute members following you..
Not really. It was just par for the course in those days. Lots of teams won "bogus" national championships because crowning a champion before the bowl game rendered that bowl game an irrelevant, year-end reward for players where nothing was up for grabs. Back in those days, the bowls functioned more like the Pro Bowl than the Sugar or Orange Bowl. If a team had already been voted the national champion, the head coaches would use that bowl to get a head start on the next season by playing their underclassmen in the bowl instead of their season-long starters. USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Army, Ohio State, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Oklahoma have some titles that fall into the same category as 1973 Alabama. It was just the way things worked back then. The entire system was flawed. Remember, this is college football- the place where integrity goes to die
@@Britton_Thompson I'm not familiar with every team, but I am curious as to which titles you think were similar for Notre Dame and Army. Combined, they played 1 bowl game before 1970.
I loved watching good football and kids that put in the hard time to perfect it. However, I hated hearing about the rule breaking in process. It took away from the sweat and blood those kids put in the trenches to elevate their coaches.
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In 1984 i was a hs all american triple option qb. Barry Switzer even came to my hs and surprised me at a pep ralley. He told my mom and dad that I would be a great fit and would probably start after a redshirt year
I was so excited I committed without even a visit. Three weeks later i got a call from their recruiter who told me that they had to recind their offer, they unexpectedly stumbled on another qb that fit their system better. Boy did they made a good choice. Damn Jamelle Holiway. :)
Late in this video you were narrating Oklahoma's dominating 1975 season that was shockingly interrupted by the Kansas Jayhawks 23-3 shellacking of the Sooners on Oklahoma's stadium turf. What you failed to mention in that segment was the fact that KU's offense in that game, was, in fact the same WISHBONE offense you've been chronicling throughout the video, with Head Coach Bud Moore leading the Jayhawks from the sidelines with Nolan Cromwell quarterbacking. Cromwell's athletic ability and clever ballhandling, along with runs by Norris Banks, Laverne Smith and Billy Canfield kept the Sooners off balance the entire game while the numerous turnovers sealed the Sooners fate. In my lifetime it's the sweetest win KU ever had over Oklahoma, a team they have had very little success against since the two schools have competed on the gridiron.
Watch the next video in the series 😉
Cromwell was amazing, and Laverne Smith was blazing fast. I remember that 23-3 win.
Great to see KU beat OU again this year.
Wow, the Jayhawks just beat Oklahoma two weeks ago.
@@stevenkmiller: I was so happy to see KU beat OU in their last Big XII matchup, that was justice.
12:58 A team is punished not because of a single incident, but because there is a culture of cheating. Cheating is very hard to prove because all parties wants what they are receiving so badly that they will deny, deny, deny, hide, hide, hide. Oklahoma was winning because of their cheating, but Switzer is going to win with the remainder of the cheating players to prove his innocence. This is a common reaction, that the cheaters feel they are victims, that they earned it, and besides, they'll tell you, everyone else is doing it!
I needed this...I've chosen not to stay up with the times...missed the old days...thank you
TOTALLY ...... TOTALLY AGREE !!!!
15:09: That Kansas team also ran the wishbone, which was quarterbacked by Nolan Cromwell who rushed for 1,124 yards that year and went on to a stellar career in the NFL as a defensive back.
I forget the opponent, but he ran for a lot of yards -- well over 200. Also, a 440 yd. hurdler, and he was good. They didn't run meters in those days.
@@michaelmisczuk1188 He ran for 294(!!!) yards against Oregon State and also 187 against Wisconsin in 1975.
Nolan played for the Rams. I didn't know he was a wishbone quarterback.
This is an excellent series.
Notre Dame was the wishbone’s kryptonite back then. It worked great against everybody else, but always seemed to fail when it went against the Irish. Ara Parseghian seemed to be the only coach in the country that truly knew how to beat it.
Except against Georgia Tech in 1975. Irish lost to Pepper Rodgers wishbone in Atlanta. It was GT's homecoming. I have never been that drunk since.
I remember Nebraska absolutely demolishing Notre Dame 40-6 in a bowl game, I guess it was in '72. Just a horrible night for a kid who rooted for the Irish. Had to go to school the next day too, which made it even worse.
In 1976, Alabama and Notre Dame had their first regular season matchup; prior to that the other games were in the Sugar and Orange Bowls. In the first half of the '76 game, ND slowed down Bama's wishbone. In the second half, Bama's wishbone was almost unstoppable. Tide QB Jeff Rutledge's pass was intercepted in the end zone late in the fourth quarter and if I remember correctly, Alabama had another possession in which they turned the ball over by coming up short on fourth down. The final score was Notre Dame 21, Alabama 18. The Achilles heel of the Wishbone offense is the possibility of turnovers, but it's a ball-control offense that's very effective and fun to watch for anyone who enjoys triple-option football.
@@danielcrowe9324 you are 💯 percent correct on your analysis....Bear Bryant said he didn't count that game as a loss, they "Just ran out of time" 😂
OU perfected it under Switzer
Truth
I always remember the orange bowl against arkansas, 42-8 , both teams running the bone, the difference was striking.
Bobby Layne in the huddle against Ark: "Go on the fifth sound." Under Center -- "Soooooo-Eeeeeeee Pig-pig-pig-pig-pig ...
No way he just glossed over Mark Harmon (yes that one) being a QB for UCLA
Yeah right…
Pretty sure that’s why his leg is all busted up.
I played against the wishbone. A lot of a defense's success were functions of
-good defensive tackles who could neutralize the fullback
-speed at linebacker
-assignment football; you just wanted to make the offense execute and let it make mistakes.
Now this, along with the live marching band music, is why I loved NCAA football more than NFL football! I know that the NFL separates the men from the boys, but in the NFL you almost NEVER see the option at all, let alone the wishbone! It all about passing! I think the option makes football even more exciting to watch! Perhaps the NFL should someday try it too!
Chicago Bears ran it in the 1970s.
Ara Parseghian was the wishbone’s ultimate enemy. He knew how to beat it well before Miami showed the world in the 80s
He dominated Alabama and Texas at the height of their powers in the 60s and 70s. Bear Bryant never beat Ara, and Royal only beat him once
If Ara could’ve beat McKay in LA more often, he would be remembered as the greatest HC of all time.
Simple assignment football beats this offense.
The run by Joe Washington starting @ 14:41 is EPIC!
The man was pure magic
I remember Joe. They paired him with this nobody named Riggins and won this "bowl thingy". I heard it was SUPER.😂😂😂😂
Mark Harmon, Navy NCIS all the way from being starting QB from UCLA. Wild world!
Only situation I ever saw where an amateur version of a sport outgrew the pro version.
College ball is just much more interesting. NFL games have no soul. Idk how else to explain it.
God I miss the wishbone
❤️ 1970s & 1980s Barry Switzer & Oklahoma, Joe Washington & Billy Sims & Tom Osborne & nebraska 🏈 1980s & 1990s etc etc
Outstanding video of my youth. Bringing back the memories of SI, ABC college football with Keith Jackson.
Mark Harmon (NCIS) was the QB of UCLA. OK recruited him, but his dad, Heisman winner Tom Harmon from Michigan, was living in Southern Cal. and wanted Mark to stay closer to home. OK had to use Steve Davis as QB.
Cool info! Sounds like it worked out for all parties involved
Mr. Shoop from "Summer School"
"Noone could stop Oklahoma's wishbone...uhhh...except KANSAS, of course!! LOL
great job on this series
Did watch a lot of teams running the wishbone back in the 70s but some also ran the vear which is similar to wishbone except for two backs instead of 3. Wishbone teams were not very good when it came to obvious passing situations but were able to surprise defenses with a bomb especially when receivers were getting single coverage or cornerbacks cheating more to stop the run, did see Alabama and Oklahoma pull this off a couple of times.
Good series. My first favorite team was the 85 Oklahoma sooners. Jemele Holloway at QB.
Is part 4 going to deal w/how it faded out?
That was a great team. Part 4 is going to feature a few other teams that ran the wishbone in addition to OU and Bama and Part 5 will be about it’s decline. There’s a surprisingly large amount of stuff to talk about!
@@mwright_boomer I too want to see the part where the downfall happens and how teams overcame it.
Not enough on the Wishbone and too much rehash of certain schools and years with highlights that have nothing to do w the Wishbone. And no explanation for when Oklahoma gets held to 3 or 7 pts for how those defenses stopped the Wishbone. Plus the narrator sounds like Darth Vader w those loud breaths every few seconds. Still an interesting series and great concept for such an important, complicated & often forgotten part of college football. The Wishbone in all its precision is a main reason college and pro football had independent audiences and why the college game was more popular
The block at 16:39 is the best block ever
Another great video! You have some amazing footage. This is a ton of work on your part. That Iron Bowl win by Auburn is called the "Punt, Bama, Punt" game 13:47 Just unfair to run the option and then throw a pass...
One tiny quibble. 6:37 That is the great Tennessee QB Condredge Holloway fumbling.
Which is why the multiple-I by Osborne with the right QB was a national title formula. Frazier, Berringer and Frost all proved that if you could complete just enough passes and keep those chains moving you would wear down the defense and they had no hope. The formula was perfect until you handed the reigns to an interception machine like Eric Crouch.
Leave it to the NCAA to a) penalize a team for three years on a two year penalty and b) penalize 11 other teams with no TV because of one team.
Absolutely love these videos, nice job! Boomer!!
@@LaunchpadGamingGuy sooner!
Name the greatest wishbone Quarterbacks.
My choice Jack Mildren.
Cool to see Auburn Alabama has been bizarre for decades
FYI the Alabama QB was named Jeff Rutledge, not Gary.
Thanks for the correction
I always thought that wishbone offenses were really enjoyable to watch. The weakness? Passing. What happens when a wishbone team meets a strong team and gets behind? Usually they couldn’t pass very well, and good defenses could load up the box and stop them.
Talking about Jimmy Johnson & Miami hurricane mid 1980s 1:48 🏈
Thank you SO much for mentioning Punt Bama Punt!!! The choke against Texas was nicely narrated too.😂😂😂😂
can you give me your views on why Royal helped Oklahoma! i wonder what the big pocketed alumni thought of that..not like this is another conference member, but a hated rival..college football in rivalries were blood battles..still am stunned to hear that this transpired..so how about a video and solicit views from your members..you appear to have a rather astute members following you..
You consistently penetrate the OL and line of scrimmage, mess up their timing, it’s over.
Look how slow we all look.
Ah yes, Alabama's 1973 UPI Natty. The very definition of bogus.
Not really. It was just par for the course in those days. Lots of teams won "bogus" national championships because crowning a champion before the bowl game rendered that bowl game an irrelevant, year-end reward for players where nothing was up for grabs. Back in those days, the bowls functioned more like the Pro Bowl than the Sugar or Orange Bowl.
If a team had already been voted the national champion, the head coaches would use that bowl to get a head start on the next season by playing their underclassmen in the bowl instead of their season-long starters. USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Army, Ohio State, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Oklahoma have some titles that fall into the same category as 1973 Alabama. It was just the way things worked back then. The entire system was flawed.
Remember, this is college football- the place where integrity goes to die
@@Britton_Thompson I'm not familiar with every team, but I am curious as to which titles you think were similar for Notre Dame and Army. Combined, they played 1 bowl game before 1970.
THE Mark Harmon…
I loved watching good football and kids that put in the hard time to perfect it. However, I hated hearing about the rule breaking in process. It took away from the sweat and blood those kids put in the trenches to elevate their coaches.
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What about Jason Todd?
Texas sucked a fat one before they hired a player from Oklahoma (DKR) to teach them how to play football.
This it BS s so irrelevant. LMFAO these days.
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