3 Kitchen Cabinets To AVOID in Your Kitchen Layout!
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2022
- When you're designing a kitchen cabinet layout, it's easy to get carried away. The options in the kitchen for accessories, pullouts, pantries and fixtures to match is never ending. But, I'll save you a little time. These 3 cabinets suck. They waste your money. Worst of all, they just don't work right or last!
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When I'm cooking I often need the trash can up to 5 or 6 times. I can't imagine having to wipe my hands and pull out the can each time! And if I left it open it would get in my way. I much prefer a free standing pedal bin (or one that has a sensor)
I beg to differ regarding the corner cabinet. I had two lower Lazy Susan corner cabinets in my last kitchen, and they worked flawlessly for the two decades I had that house. Never a problem or any negative aspect, had plenty of room for my largest kitchen items. When I designed my current kitchen recently, I put one in the one lower corner and it holds all my larger pots and pans. Love it!
I also designed in a garbage drawer at the end of my island so anyone else could access the garbage while I was busy at the sink. Everything about it can be removed for periodic cleaning, is not so large that kitchen waste accumulates longer than odors expand, and that also works nicely for our household.
The other topics of your video I agree with.
I also have an old fashioned lazy susan cabinet from 1962. The L shaped door is mounted to the lazy susan with the trays and just spins into the space and then stops on the outside. The door is solid and has a chamfered edge so it gives the appearance of not being inset.
@monpayscanada I like that idea!
I have a trash compactor and love it. Have had one in our various houses for about 30 years. The best solution ever!
My pull out garbage cabinet is a double, it also has a recycling pail. I absolutely love it.
I would suggest recyclables up front and trash in the back for long term survivability.
If you have to have the sliders rebuilt. Make sure they are rated for 50lbs or more. I might go 75 if I were really worried.
@brandonhoffman4712 at least the weight would give it a fighting chance!💪
@@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa I agree with everything you said except the garbage pullout. Where else would you put the garbage can??? Mine is a double with recycling can in the back. 150lb rated undermount glides with 5/8" solid maple drawer box...it's going to outlast me.
@soddog4 I hope so. I love them and desperately root for success. It’s like being a Mets fan🥲
I love my pull out garbage cabinet, with wire insert and all. I keep it clean - no smells.
I have an IKEA blind corner cabinet with 2 pull out drawers. It works flawlessly and it's perfectly integrated into the rest of the cabinets. There is however about 12 inches of dead space in the back corner, but since the drawers pull out you'll never miss it. The shelf heights are adjustable according to your own needs. By the way, that 12 inches of dead space in the back corner is a perfect place to hide a small safe with valuables. Even if thieves come in and tear apart every single drawer in every room, they will never know it's back there because you can't see it.
What a great idea 💡
That's why you don't buy ikea. My uncle has 2 drawers in the corner that rotate outward. Keeping all the space usable. And allowing it all to basically pull out from the corner to get to.
No idea what he spent, but he knew what he wanted and it's the best I've seen.
Agree, pull outs make sense in the after-market world if you have to live with a kitchen that has base cabs and shelves, sure, add your pull outs. But if building new, go with drawers everywhere you can on the base level.
pull-out closets are absolutely great. I don't understand what problem people have with them. lower cabinets and large kitchen closets are 60cm deep. The problem is that many products cant be easily stacked 60cm deep and still be accessible. So you lose space simply because you cant access the back of your closet. This isn't true for all kitchen items of course, but i hate looking for that one can of food and having to empty the entire plank to get to something in the back, or even just see if its there. I'm not suggesting having only pull-out closet. It doesn't make sense for most big items. But it makes total sense to have 1 or 2. You want a mix of storage anyway. you will want some deep storage, some drawers, some undeep storage.
What I think is a mistake is people thinking having all these fancy closets saves you space, it doesn't. In the video she rightly points out they cost space. We have a big kitchen. So I'm happy to give up a little space, to have stuff more easily accusable. It doesn't work well in small kitchens where you really need to storage space. They are smart stage solutions because they make certain items things more accessible, not because they allow you to store more. Its useful for some items, but not for all.
Lastly, drawers don't work in high closets, and drawers are usually wider. sometimes you need to fill up a small space to keep the dimensions of the kitchen the way you want, or you would have to get really skinny drawers which can look out of place.
I agree 100% on these cabinets! I have a miniscule kitchen and my husband is the builder and I got to be the designer. Very glad to see I avoided ALL your bad choices. My kitchen works and works hard for me, not against me. I went with all the drawer units I could squeeze in and have been happy for 35 years. We have redone drawer and door fronts once and painted them for the last change up. New hardware is the icing on the decor.
I use the tilt drawer that's across my sink for dishwasher pods. I line them up nice and neat on their sides. They're easy to reach for because my dishwasher is right there. The only drawback is that sometimes the pods leak and I have to clean the little holder, but it's nothing a halved paper towel won't fix.
I’ve head the pull out trash (the wood version) in 2 houses and they never failed. I absolutely love having trash in front and the recycle bin behind. And if you empty it every 4-5 days it’s fine, it doesn’t get too heavy or stinky. Oh, I never put in meet/fish remainders in my trash. Always take it out after cooking.
Agree, love mine too.
Same here!
We don't do recycling so I just screwed a drawer to the bottom of the door with six screws, removed the hinges, added sliders and put a large bin on it. Nothing fancy but works perfectly and a lot cheaper than buying the ready made bin/cabinet.
@@fabianmckenna8197 Anywhere I can Anywhere I can see this? Just rebuilt after a house fire... Budget is super tight. This sounds like an excellent idea! ❤
@@TwoPartyIllusion Google "DIY pull out bin" and you'll find a variety of methods to try but mine was as follows.....
Imagine a drawer fitted on sliders in the bottom of the base unit.
I used heavy duty extending metal sliders as bins can get heavy, also allows the bin drawer to fully open. Mine is Installed in a 400mm/16" base unit with the upper drawer still in place and in use, but any size will do . Bigger unit or full height door will make it heavier.
Remove the door hinges and screw the door to the drawer. Use smaller length stubby screws to avoid going right through the door.🤯🤯 Six screws equally spaced are adequate and I actually used drywall screws.
Some videos have used brackets to reinforce the screw connections for a full sized door but my drawerline door (smaller door with upper drawer in use) is fine without them.
If you have a base unit that you can sacrifice, you'll find it's actually really nice not having a bin lying around the kitchen. Good luck.
Definitely right about comments you brought that out! for kitchen cabinets efficiency, me as builder and contractor totally agree your thoughts about efficiency & conveniently.
Got another one coming so stay tuned!🙏
I don't know where I've been, but I just found you. Your videos on kitchen lighting mistakes is fabulous! Loved it!
Get on my list! There’s plenty more🎥🙏
When I had my kitchen redone, they moved the sink from just beside the corner cabinet to the actual corner. The undersink storage is managed with lazy susans on each side of the plumbing. I LOVE it!
The bonus tip about the small hinge sponge space. She is right about people breaking the hinge. Placing a smaller centrally placed pull is going to solve that, but also, why bother putting wet stuff in there? It is a nice spot to keep small not often used things. The straw cleaner. They dry quick and are easily bent. Under there they would be safe. They can hang out with spare clean dish towels. They won't be in there long enough to get gross should the edge of the sink leak.
So true! The bottle brushes were perfect in there if you buy the right kind.
I have one & what wasn’t mentioned is that the sink needs to be moved towards the wall to accommodate the tray. We have about 4” of counter in front of the sink. Which comes in handy but our lever for the faucet hits the glass backsplash. I thought it would be great but I don’t really use it. I keep the current SOS pad in there. Mine is plastic & slips out for cleaning.
This one is my favorite of all so far! I am saving this one! Let's hope I remember that I saved it and where to find it! Thanks, Liz!
Thank you for watching!💕
Thank you for the tips. I’m looking to remodel my kitchen in the next year or so. I like my 2 sliding drawers inside the cabinet but I’m probably going to just replace them with regular drawers. It’s what my friend has & I like it better. She also has the pull out trash/recycling & she has to empty them at least once a day because they don’t hold much. I’ve decided to just use the larger cans we have & just have a counter over the top of them. The garbage & recycling cans will just be on wheels to pull them in & out. As for the corner cabinet, I was thinking about the hidden shelf option but I’m thinking it might be an opportunity to accumulate things I don’t need. On the other hand, it might be a good storage spot for the items I need but only during the holidays or when I’m having guests over…the roasting pans, etc…
You’ve given me a lot to think about & confirmed some of the things I was considering. Thank you!
I designed our kitchen remodel myself, including a pull-out garbage and recycling “drawer” that’s the height of a cabinet door. The drawer contains a frame close to the top that the two plastic kitchen-size garbage pails drop into. They work great! I love them! They’re easy to use and easy to live with! We line both bins with bags. ETA: I designed this remodel that was built 15 years ago.
With love and strong construction 🦺 cabinet manufacturers don’t compare!
Great video. Such clear thinking through the initial appeal of featues that will eventually become problems.The one small observation I have is the need to make every inch count. That might be true for some kitchens, but I took my rebuild as an opportunity to get rid of redundent or useless gadgets and equipment. This reduced the imperitive to maximize space as much, which freed up some space for esthics which might be slightly less functional but more pleasing to me.
Wish it was only thinking! Living with them myself or hearing clients experiences over the years tells the real story. I still get wooed by all the gadgets, but who doesn’t! 🤔 🤣
OMG I just ordered my kitchen and I agree with all of that!
I have TWO double pull out garbage pail, it's been over 15 years now and I still love them. Instead of drawer behind a door I have deep drawer on either side of the stove for pots and pans, best idea ever.
I’m glad. Many older construction🤣 cabinets were made better than these RTA type boxes! And the deep drawers for pots and pans is my fav!
Love your cabinet review. I often thought the corner cabinet with the lazy Susan never made sense to me. Neither did the sink pull out and garbage cabinet. You are the first person I have seen that makes sense. I think people must be caught up in trying to keep their kitchen ultra organized.
My uncle has corner drawers that rotate outward. Super clutch!
Love this video I had my kitchen enlarged a fee years back. I see the can drawer weighing. I hate the lazy Susie period. I had 20 upper and 20 lower cabinets installed and now I don't want half the cabinets on one side of my kitchen. I paid for the over fridge cabinet but need a ladder to get to it. Your right we see it in the showroom and it's gorgeous just not always functional. Oh and my kitchen so big I got 2 can drawers lol which one is rarely used because no one in my house even attempt to recycle.
Mine either😂
I had a kitchen where the corner was the stove. I loved it. Gave plenty of counter on either side.
Nice presentation style. Thanks!
Our corner 2- layer lazy Susans are wonderful. Low lip, made by Amish….
And we have a wire garbage can pulls out from an opened cabinet door…we like it.
The previous owners upgraded the kitchen and bathroom about 20 years ago and the style choices are timeless.
The Amish never disappoint!
agreed. your points are on spot.
I’ve got more….
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I did a pull out with two bins as my beverage recycling instead of using it for trash. One for plastics and the other bin is for aluminum
So smart!
@@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa Thanks 😊
When we put in cabinets in our turn of the century house we got nice middle of the road cabs. A lazy susan in the corner. My husband had to periodically adjust it to turn and align properly, but it really wasnt a big deal. Also a lower cab had a drawer but just a single door. Haven't had a decently functional kitchen since.
Do you actually cook? Can or prep things to freeze? I just recently took out the corner lazy Susan. I have detested that cabinet for 20 yrs. However the pull out drawers or shelves are fantastic. I started out with them in one cabinet and have been slowly adding them to the rest of my base cabinets. They create more usable/accessible space. Best invention ever for a hardworking kitchen. I also love my built in trash can. I can access it through a door or a lid in the countertop. It is a trash can. No garbage goes into it. I guess it is best for everyone to decide what fits their lifestyle.
Corner kitchen lazy Susan - love this for cleaning supplies, or paper towel, etc. otherwise it’s a pain. The pull out trash can. Sorry, I had one and still love it.
If you don’t have abuse from those who shall not be named, then they work great.🤣
My previous kitchen had 2 corner cabinets which each took 12 inches of the bottom of the U shaped kitchen with 2 18 inch cabinets in between. Replaced with 2 24” cabinet (double drawers). So, 12-18-18-12 ( new 24-24 (48). So I “lost” 12 inches, but gained much more efficient layout a total of 12 more inches of usable space.
I have absolutely loved my pull out garbage can, hidden by cabinetry. The best upgrade I’ve done in years! I do disagree with you on that one! You were right, there is a stir. People like these for a reason.
I want to love them. We just aren’t gentle people🤣
Don't build can sliders with regular sliders. Use ones meant for more weight. Problem solved.
They make ones that can slide a bed with somone still sleeping on it... I've seen 250lb sliders that could probably slide your exterior trash bin in and out of a drawer...
@@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa , that's a reasonable point. I'm single and live alone, so it's just me and my guests putting wear and tear on it. It's been a lifesaver in my little kitchen though.
Excellent video. Our next house has three of the things you mentioned, and they drive me nuts. i would love to reinforce the lower lazy susan, but the door opening is only eight inches, so that's a no-go. The lower cabinets all have drawers behind doors, which, as you said, eats up a lot of space. And those tip-out drawers at the sink are just stupid. i'd like to take the hardware off and put some kind of decorative panel across them where i could mount a towel bar or something.
You are my people! I lived with all the same, but better next time 🤣
So much good info to think about. But that undersink tiltout is sure handy for rings and watches! I also use it for the scraper (nonporous) and a sharp razor blade for the stovetop. Never a sponge, for sure.
I put my sponge in there and learned my lesson quick 🤮
We never put away anything while it is still wet. Let it dry and off we go! 🎉
@@harryl7946 I agree 100%! No matter how good a product design is, you need the user to have common sense.
We installed an after market pullout in a lower cabinet for our garbage, bought at Lowe's. That was 24 years ago, and it still works great. I love that there isn't a garbage can visible in my kitchen, or in the way. My sil has the corner lazy Susan in her kitchen with the bi-fold doors, and it works great.So what, if you have to line up the trays properly. One extra step isn't going to kill you.
No, it’s not going to be the death of us. We will adapt and survive anything but, do we have to?
I did not order my pull out garbage cupboard but I have one and I love what I use it for, I use it for my clean kitchen towels.
Perfect idea 💡
Good points ! My extensive personal an professional experience backs them all !
I’m well researched, living in a bad 90’s fixer
Fabulous video! So much useful information and nothing annoying like jangling music on a loop. And the hilarious clips are a plus. Great job!
Glad you found it!
Great video everything you said makes sense!
Don’t tell my kids! Thanks for watching🙏
I love my sink panel tiltout - because I use it wisely, to STORE extra Brillo pads, new sponges, a stainless bar for onion chopping, and a veg scrubber. This keeps needed replacements at-the-ready! I don’t use it for anything wet.
Smart move!
Actually #2 I have and love it. But these are great tips!!!
They work sometimes for some people. I’m just playing the odds 🤣🎲
I agree with everything you said and I have installed many kitchens in the last 30+ years!
It’s good to hear that from someone who’s seen it all. Check out this one, ua-cam.com/video/ou3bMzdHqnk/v-deo.html
I have to disagree on the pullout shelves in cabinets. I specifically ordered all my cabinets with these in them. Full extension. I find them extremely useful. I don't have to sit on the floor or bend like a corkscrew to get things out. I don't forget what is stored in the back. I also store smaller cutting boards in the 'wasted space ' between the slide-out and the cabinet wall. These slide outs are great, especially for people needing/wanting to age in place, people with disabilities or back/hip issues. Yes, one loses a little space on either side but not that much and the convenience is wonderful.
I agree! I just think drawers might be a better solution to opening the doors first, then the pull out! But if it works for you, that's all that matters! Thanks for watching🙏
@@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa My fantasy kitchen has zero lower cabinets; only big drawers. I'm getting older and those lower cabinets are getting more and more difficult to access. I think the shallow pull-outs are great for installing in a kitchen with only lower cabinets, but they're too expensive for me, so I was excited to find a metal pull-out drawer at a thrift shop, and I installed it in a lower cabinet.
The drawer & its hardware took up so much space while the actual storage area wasn't that big. It couldn't even hold all the cooking pots I wanted to store there. (and I don't have a lot--I've decluttered a LOT).
It became annoying over time.
I finally removed it and now I just use big (and tall) plastic bins in my lower cabinets, and they're actually much more functional for me.
They're my pretend drawers lol. Maybe someday.....
@@JamieM470 I’m living the someday dream as well right now! 🙏 to the kitchen gods 🤣
Thanks for this. I must say tho that I DO use and love my little drawer in front of the the sink. 20 years now and the hinges haven;t failed - I keep toothbrushes for cleaning in there and dishwasher tablets. I line it with some brown paper I change twice a year, but then don't put anything in when it's wet
My kids would trash it in no time 🤣😇
Your advice to avoid "Doors with drawers behind them". I LOVE my cabinets that have pullout drawers and wish all of my lower cabinets had them (my lower cabinets only have the upper shelf as a pullout, there's not a drawer in the base.) It makes space so much more accessible. If the cabinets are built correctly, very little space is lost, and it negates the need to pull everything out of a cabinet to access the things in the back. My old house had that setup and I used it for my pots and pans - it felt like I had double the space because I didn't have to constantly unload an entire shelf to get to stuff in the back, and it's easier for people who have mobility issues (my mom, who in her 80s, can't sit on the flloor or bend and twist to get to the stuff in the backs of her cabinets). As for upper pantry shelves having it - if you organize your pantry with a little common sense and keep a step stool handy, that works well too.
I agree. If it’s a pull out vs a standard shelf, it’s a better option. But drawers would make that bottom shelf even more accessible. Thanks for watching!🎅💕
Open a door to open a drawer, makes no sense to me. Two deep drawers access the same amount of storage space with an equally neat appearance.
I added wire pull out drawers to my base cabinets and I LOVE them- so accessible and more storage space. Ok, if i were starting from scratch I might just make drawers- but I am not ditching my perfectly good cabinets for that minor advantage
I ordered one base unit with 3 drawers. ❤. We will never go without again
It’s cheaper and easier to just use drawers in the first place. Eliminate all bottom cabs EXCEPT the necessary ones like a vertical storage cabinet, whatever’s going in the corner, and the ubiquitous waste basket cabinet. Everything else should be drawers.
I have two corner Cabinet, The upper one you have to empty out half the cabinet to be able to get at the stuff behind, I've lived in my house thirty nine years and i've never liked it. My cabinets were made by a cabinet shop. But we didn't get to see the design of our kitchen in reality before we built. This was our first home after living in a mobile home and a four plex. If only I knew what I knew back then. Also my bottom corner cabinet where a lot of people might put a lazy susan. This cabinet for me. I have to crawl underneath my kitchen sink and reach way to the left. And there's so much space that is not being used like it should. When I was younger I used it cause. I could crawl away under there but still it wasn't practical. As I got older with arthritis and different things it's empty. I'm glad you're bringing an awareness to so many things people get caught up, they need to really look at what's practical. When I built my home back then. They didn't have kitchens with mega cabinets. So the cabinets you do have you wanted them to work well. The other thing mine had routered into the front of the doors. And as much as these were made by cabinet chop they are oak veneer. Overtime where they were routered gets a little bit Bumpy and you can't sand that off. I actually thought when my cameras were built that they were going to be better. Then store button back then. My drawer sides the type of board that looks like sawdust glued together. They have held up but now some of them are starting to have issues. Nothing is built like it used to where things were really solid. Everyone I know that has a lazy susan does not like it. My son built a new home 5 years ago and they did not put a lazy Susan. They had one in their previous home and they got smart with their cabinet and they are so much nicer.
I’m with you. As I get older, I don’t want to climb or kneel!💕 smarter next generation I hope!
There is another option for the horribe corner cabinets- you can get a cabinet lift put in. So the entire cabinet raises up to countertop level.
The pull out shelf inside a base is better access to contents than no pull out but it should only be for a retrofit.
On a new build all bases should be drawers for max storage and ease of space use. The corner lazy susan and sink base are the exceptions on that of course.
Had a tip out for over 20 years without a single issue. I also had the corner cabinet with lazy Susan with no issues except the cheap plastic lazy Susan broke. About to get new cabinets and I will have those items again!
I had them too 🤣
Also there are fitted plastic bins for lazy susans, available from amazon. My previous house had upper and lower corner lazy susans and these bins reallu helped keep things clean and organized. i left them for new owners since my current house has no corner cabinets
@@signespencer6887 lucky you!🍀
Wow. You read my mind. I'm remodeling a 1975 single wide trailer and well you can just imagine the rest. Thank you
Corners, choose drawers on each side of the corner. I’ve had both types of corner cabinet. Far better to lose a few inches and gain accessible, functional space. My corner cabinets each took 12 inches on either side, leaving only 18 inches of actual cabinet. I changed it to two 24 inch double drawers with hidden drawers at the top few inches of each drawer. Amazing storage 4*24 deep drawers with 4 shallower drawers which hold utensils, spices. Pantry items and all my paper, plastic wrap items.
The trouble with a garbage drawer: Stink, Kind of reminds me of "Sara Sylvia Cynthia Stout".
Corner cabinets; The home I grew up on had the primary shelves (half circle) on the cabinet door and a fixed filler shelf inside (which my mother used for those once a year supplies).
wow never thought of how all these bells and whistles can actually be so unhelpful. thanks for bringing them to light.
Glad you found it useful!
I have a relatively cheap wire pull out for trash that fits in the sink cabinet base. It came with a trash can with a lid but the lid often came off and the liner often fell in. I still use the pull out, but I got rid of the trash can and lid it held. For the past 20 or more years I’ve used plastic shopping bags from groceries instead. The handles hook over the top of the wires that previously held the trash bin. I just review each bag to make sure it has no holes before I save it for trash use. The others I recycle. Never gets too heavy to put stress on the rolling mechanism or too smelly because it’s small so trash is emptied frequently to outside. This works great for me because I live alone. Not sure what I’ll use if plastic grocery bags are outlawed.
Nice way to reuse ♻️ and recycle. I use them for walking a very large 🐕 🤣
Only lazy suzan i ever liked was in my grandmother's house. The door was not hinged, but its corner was the axis so the shelves rotated outwards and you never had to reach in. Anything else is just a pain. Shelves over spinners anyday.
Thank you for your video. I am redesigning a kitchen now and had planned on using a trash pull out. After seeing your video - I'm rethinking it but what is the other choice? Have a free standing garbage can? What choices are there if we want the garbage can hidden? Thanks for any help.
The idea of the pullout great and if you can find a sturdy cabinet with slides on the side and bottom AND you’re mindful of the limitations, it’s the most convenient option. If you have a nearby pantry, I’d use that for recycling etc. Another option I have seen is in a corner lazy Susan with 3 pails. They don’t pull out, but rest on the lazy Susan bottom. Those are hard to find in most manufacturers of kitchen cabinets 🤔
Thanks for the great video! The only thing I disagree with you on is the drawers. I believe that every thing below waist level should be some type of drawer unless there is plumbing in the way like under the kitchen sink. Other wise drawers are just a more efficient use of space. Think of the last time you reached for an item in the back of a floor mounted cabinet, and if that felt like a good experience.
Thanks 🙏 I’m all for drawers. Just not behind doors!
Only people to have a pullout trash can is a kitchen that hardly sees any action it to begin with. Ugh..just the thought of that trash right up against the inner part of the cabinet.
Hey liz, thanks for this vid. I have two L-shaped corner cabinets, there’s not a perfect solution so this video speaks to me!
I’m planning an inset lazy susan for one corner. I don’t mind one door being inset (it’s the only cabinet, between a DW and oven). The second one, I was planning a staggered shelf and no lazy suzan or doodad. But I only just learned that Ikea cabinets only have thin fibreboard backing! Looking into alternatives…Have you ever seen a magic corner cabinet pullout (meant for a blind corner) used in the L-shaped corner cabinet? Seems like it could work based on spec sheets alone (and the other side could just be left open for tall small appliances or hanging pans)
You’ll find the mdf is backing on lots of good quality cabinets. I don’t think the blind corner mechanisms will work in an l shaped box though.
I am at a rental while working on my house with plans to make custom cabinets at the end.
This rental has a corner Susan with a flush panel... and slightly smaller cabinet faces mounted to them so they match the rest of the cabinets. This is ossible to have them all matching, & we love the above and below lazy susans in the corner of this kitchen. Full round above, pie cut below.
They carry much more weight than the swing outs as well.
I totally agree with the corner cabinet. Especially if the shelves are not removable to clean under ( I've over flowed my coffee pot 2x and it went into my lazy Susan, what an experience trying to clean that up). But I disagree with the bottom cabinet roll out drawers. I love them, especially as I get older. I loose a little space, but not a ton, and it helps me keep only what I need in them, so I cut down on clutter. I can switch them to regular shelves (the company sent us the shelves for them too) but I really find them useful.
OMG! My coffee pot is right over the lazy Susan. Time to move it! They are a conundrum!
Love your channel - new sub!
Welcome and I love the name🦋
Great tips. The pullout inside a double-door cabinet >> always just go with doors, its so inconvenient. As for the waste basket cabinet, buy a 2nd replacement cabinet at the time of purchase. No matter how careful you are, 15-20 years down the road, you’ll need it. And as for the tip-out sink, dont go there.
A tip of my own: be sure to mount a layer of wood horizontally at the top of the cabinet frames behind the front framing member. Without this in the top drawers, about 4 inches back, you can reach your hand up and feel the bottom of your granite countertop. This is important because things in the drawer will catch on the front framing member and make it impossible to pull out. I’ve seen this skipped even in very high-cost kitchens. Big mistake.
That's a good idea to avoid the dreaded stuck drawer, have a flat roof so there is no catch point
I agree with every one of your comments.
I love my corner cabinet and would not give it up. I love my double trash can drawer. It is right next to my kitchen sink and very handy. It was must have for me because I really do not want to constantly see the trash every time I walk into a kitchen. As for roaches, etc. I have never had roaches, bugs etc. I live in the Midwest on a very large acreage with woods, pond, deer, turkey, etc. Maybe she think she would get roaches depending on the area in which she lives.
Two things you did not discuss are the double ovens and microwave. I purposely lowered my double ovens so I could reach both. Not everyone woman is 5’8. I have a friend who is my height, 5’2, and she has never used the upper oven because she cannot reach to get anything out of the upper oven. Now that is a waste.
As for the microwave - I had it built at counter height. The home I lived in before had the microwave above the range top. I had to stand on a footstool if I chose to use it. Needless to say when I left that home the microwave was pristine and looked like new because I basically refused to use the out of reach hazard.
I love the fact that my lower cabinets have drawers behind the doors. I hate having to try to retrieve stuff from the back of a lower cabinet shelf.
They are an improvement over a static shelf for sure.
Just have a drawer and then you have the access and it’s one step
@@user-ip6is7kn5g I have seen them built that way, and did it myself in my last house when I rebuilt all the kitchen cabinets. My current house has them behind doors. Maybe a little wasteful of space, but I have a massive amount of cabinets, to the point that I have more cabinets than stuff to put in them.
Ya it's not about cabinets vs drawers behind cabinets.
It's about drawers vs drawers behind cabinets.
Drawers win vs hidden drawers everytime. Do you want to open 2 cabinet doors everytime you need a spoon? This problem was already solved.
Drawers behind doors is what happens when a rich person doesn't like a certain look so the carpenter makes something "unique" which then stupidly gets picked up on by people trying to keep up with the jones's... and then winds up in many places it never should have.
Enjoy drawers. They're great. Drawers are often the best thing to place under counters and doors up top. But drawers behind doors are just a travesty.
@@brandonhoffman4712 you have a right to your opinion. I have had both. I dislike exposed drawers in lower cabinets. Looks unfinished. And I don’t keep spoons in lower cabinets. That is just retarded. Pots and pans go down there.
Thank you 🙏
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Ok I have trash compactor now I was going to get rid of it and get the trash can pull out. . So what do I get now ? I need visual aids .
Hello do you know what video the part at 2:55 is from? Thanks so much
It’s from an old architectural cabinet video. Not sure where though.
The solution to the pull out drawer is to have the door mounted to the shelves so that you are not opening a door then pulling out a drawer-you are pulling the drawer unit open. I think your recommendations are a little trite.
I totally disagree about the cabinets with drawers. As I was unable to match my kitchen laminate, I retro-fitted drawers behind doors under my island bench and they work incredibily well and, as they were made on-site, it enabled me to tailor the storage to suit my needs. I now have 3 large drawers where previously I had 2 shelves which were hard to access. They are perfect in every way and make unloading my dishwasher so easy. If installing a new kitchen by all means go with drawers instead of cabinets with doors. As for the bins, buy ones that have a lid which closes when the drawer closes which helps with the odours, use a good quality bin liner and empty regularly!!!!
I’m glad you were able to retrofit the cabinets to work for you! Brilliant!
Great videos! Give us some solutions to the don’t do this
Don’t do this? Oh, the list is endless 😂 anything specific?
I have a corner cabinet that has three hanging plastic trash cans. They are shaped like a trapezoid with a curve on the long edge. I use a standard 13 galleon bag for the trash. 1.Trash 2. Paper 3. Metal, plastic,and glass. This has been an amazing success for me. The recycling was always a mess and now it’s all hidden away! The cans can be lifted off for easy emptying and placed outside the cabinet while I’m working to minimize opening and closing the hinged door. I immediately purchased three more plastic bins in case these failed but my kitchen is 10 years old now and they are still strong. This was idea was in a photo online and my kitchen designer had a heck of a time arranging it, maybe I have the only one in existence! BUT it’s not rocket science it is good design!
That is the best use of the corner I’ve seen! Kudos to you because they are rare with manufacturers!🧑🎨🙏
My uncle has corner drawers that rotate outwards big enough to fit an instant pot on. I think it's the best thing I've seen. It gives you full access and minimal dead space. The corner is also where I feel large kitchen items should go.
Personally i do not like cabinets up to the ceiling. There is nothing i want to put up there or remove from there and i need a 4 foot ladder to get to. Signed, a short lady. 😊
I hear you! It’s ladder 🪜 reaching only, but I don’t want to dust!
Such great tips! I’ve always thought those same details in the kitchen were such Fails! Not practical and functional at all..
Glad you found it useful!🙏
Great video, Liz! What are your thoughts on inset cabinets other than them being wayyyy...expensive? We are remodeling our kitchen and love the look but do they take up more space AND do we lose actual cabinet space with them?
Would love to see a video on some of the things you think every kitchen needs!🙏🏻
Thanks so much! I love the inset look if we’re doing a real farmhouse or traditional kitchen. However, the two issues seem to be swelling so the reveals don’t match over time and the more importantly, the edges!
The cabinet box edges show so every ding, bump and scratch isn’t hidden behind the doors overlay. As to the video, I’ll get cracking!🙏
Swelling is only an issue with cheap soft woods. But hardwoods will 10x the cost and not be far from stain grade which might lead one into more expenses.
You shouldn't lose storage with an inset style really.
The advantage of a non inset style is most are engineered wood (plywood) for much of the construction. Which won't swell at all seasonally. Technically non inset cabinets are inset cabinets with an added fascia on the drawers, and doors placed on the outside to match. You will often notice 2 layers of wood on all the drawer fronts. The corners are cut on material, some non structural components, and level of workmanship required.
Both can be of equal quality.
Good advice
Hey! I love Swamp Thing! 🤣
Not in the kitchen! 👹
@@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa 🤣😂🤣 I noticed the end and I was like... that scene looks familiar! Hope all is great with you!
What do you think of Thomasville? I shut spent 40k and the lady told me they were ll wood! Now I I realize they are particle board! I AM LIVID! I want to cancel my order and the design wasn't good. How much do you charge for design.
What alternative solution do you recommend to the pull-out trash drawer?
I’m agonizing over that in my own kitchen! Strong slides that mount in more than one place, watch the weight and empty often🤣. I’ve also seen a corner lazy Susan with three pails. Fabulous idea but not all manufacturers make them and sink needs to be nearby.
When my dad redid our kitchen in the 80s he did the trapezoid shape so there is a full lazy susan inside that doesn't interfere with closing the door. No rail on it, but that has never been a problem for us. Too bad they don't make countertops for that style-- at least not that I've found. Dad put on some sort of laminate but he'd never done it before so it ended up being in pieces and having ugly seams.
We have a drawer behind doors in a bathroom cabinet. It's where we keep the bandaids. It does suck having to open both doors to open the drawer.
They can cut granite or counter material these days for that corner with the trapezoid. I did it in mine!
@@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa Yeah, custom ordered which costs $$$$. I meant that they don't have prefab ones with the trapezoid cutout. At least not that I've seen.
I can't even imagine a garbage can in a drawer I'm too OCD for that so that one , I can't stand a lazy Susan cabinet I now have a corner cabinet that has two shelves I can reach everything and I can see everything it's wonderful I wish I could take a picture of it
All great tips! Sorry though, in my kitchen I have the garbage and recycling drawer and won’t go back. I have had it 10 years and it still looks great, and I don’t have a space to hide a can otherwise. Should still have a lid though.
We did a full 9' wall of pantry space in our dining room, and I do not regret any of it. Sure, we filled our swear jar to the brim a few times putting it all together, but once we did, ahhh. Life has been great for us since. We paid extra for the pull out drawers on rails because the cabinets are 2' deep and I have short arms. We broke the wall up with two 24" cabinets with two doors per on either side of a 30" cabinet with two doors. Behind each door are four drawers (not the ones in your video) set on rails at custom placements for what I'm storing in them. Each cabinet has two small doors covering the top thirds, and one of the 24" plus the 30" cabinets have two tall doors per. Inside the second 24" cabinet, my husband built a custom upright sheet tray/racks/muffin tins slotted setup. Below that we have shelves for coffee mugs and the microwave, and a short pull out drawer for a few every day plates and bowls. Under that, the husband installed a customer wood cutting board that I can drop hot dishes and trays on from the ovens, and it can double as a stand up desk for my laptop and recipe books in a pinch. The very bottom of that cabinet is where the husband built in a slim pull out garbage pail system to sit beside the wine fridge. This isn't a build for the faint of heart who love to do DIYs, but if you've put IKEA cabinets together, you might be ok with this kind of pantry setup. I think my favourite thing about the pantry wall is how seamless it blends in with the wall (we used a muslin colour on the walls to pair with the slightly off-white of the cabinets) and room. It honestly hides in plain sight. I mean after you first see it, you stop being distracted by its presence and size.
This summer we are planning to work on the kitchen cabinets, so this is a useful video for me. TY for posting your opinions. It's just what I have been looking for ahead of the floor plan and purchasing stages.
You sound like an old pro! Thanks for tuning in!
Oh, for sure we are *now*, but see my comment about our swear jar,@@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa.
Also, if you would like to see a pic of the whole finished pantry wall, post an email addy and I'll send it off.
@StaceyEm I’d love to, 🙏liz@mydesignsherpa.com
Yeah - the ding I'm getting on the door adjacent to my lazy Susan corner cabinet kinda sucks. Thanks for letting me know its not just me.
They make clear bumpers but we shouldn’t be forced to live this way!🤣
Pull out garbage cabinets are necessary if you have dogs. I've had them in my kitchens for about 40 years -- both the wood and wire types -- and have never had one fail.
I'm planning a major kitchen remodel and am going with the trapezoid shape for the corner, with the lazy Susan. It's what my designer recommended over all the other options. However, I'm also going with the pull-out garbage bin. In fact, I'm having three bins -- garbage, aluminum cans, and other recycling. Right now this stuff is under my sink, and it's got to be a lot better to pull the drawer out than pull the cans out. Plus, if there's someone standing at the sink, it's SO annoying that someone who wants to reach the trash or recycling has to ask them to move over. So, the bins are going NEXT to the sink -- yay! I have several friends who have remodeled their kitchens, they all have the pull-out bins and they all love it. Even if they fail after 10 years or however long, I'd rather pay to have them re-done than have the bins on the floor in the kitchen, or have to pull out one bin, then pull out another that's behind it. Lastly, I'd love to have a tip-out storage bin, but I don't like how far back the sink has to go to accommodate it. So, unfortunately that's a no-go.
I love the pull out pails as well! If you’re mindful of the limits of screws💪 you’ll be fine!
I have a blind corner cabinet and I hate it, because my dishwasher and oven border this cabinet and there is very little clearance. I was going to go with a corner but I definitely think I need to find one with a recessed door. I just hope I can get one in a size that fits.
Good luck! Inset doors may help give you the clearance for the appliances to open. Filler strips and a smaller corner might help. 27x27”? Better than 36” each way might help. That’s a standard North American size.
I like my under counter rotating cabinet - the kind with the attached L-shaped door. But I really HATE the above-counter corner cabinets! So much wasted space that I can’t get to! :(
I found out the hard way about the pull out trash. Its all fine and dandy...untill you need to replace the actual plastic garbage container. Good luck finding the exact same size container to fit in that darn thing. They sure didn't use a standard size garbage container in mine. Was a nightmare to find a replacement. Lol
Corner cabinet. My uncle got one with 2 shelves that pull out in a circular fashion. Holds tons of stuff and better than a lazy Susan.
Double cabinet doors with drawers are the bane of my father's kitchen pantry. You have to open the entire pantry to then have drawer access and need so much room chairs need to move...
Trash can, haven't noticed problems with in drawer trash, nor the step lid cans. Don't like under sink cans.
Flip front sink thing... if you are buying new cabinets. You should be putting in a farmhouse sink. Which comes out further than the cabinet.
My new kitchen ihave the recclingand rubbis bins ivehad them inthe old litchen too.i love them they dont stink atall as ihave changethe bags regularly.ihate stand alone.bins tehyare alwys firty looking .youcanverfill a cupboard binas the drawer wont closee .so you have a built in reasinti change bags regularly.
I’m going to be building my home & I want the kitchen designed with No Corners! Not only are the cabinets a pain, but I’m short & the counter too is waisted, because I can’t reach most of it! I also hate upper cabinets, especially over the fridge & stove! They are the black hole of death. Stuff goes up there & never seen again!
Find some comfortable step ladders for working. There are great ones that will make it more comfortable if 36” counters are not working!
@@lizbiancoismydesignsherpa While most all of your ideas are spot on, (which is what earned you my sub) that one needs a caveat. If you are a senior a step stool or ladder in the kitchen is just asking for broken bones or worse. As a gerontologist I can tell you that getting folks to safely age in place is the biggest war of this century. Step ups of any kind, just like throw rugs and mats, should be banned from any house. But especially from homes belonging to anyone over 45. Rebuild/customize the counter, it's cheaper than the hundreds of thousands of dollars a bad fall and subsequent surgeries can cost you.
So true! Unfortunately, when space is tight the vertical storage is valuable real estate 🏡
I'm having custom cabs made (eventually) for my kitchen remodel, and I'm planning on having the cab over the refrigerator as deep as the lower cabs. There will be 2 doors. One side will open to adjustable vertical dividers for my baking sheets, extra large cutting boards, and the like. The other side will have the door attached to a pullout, the box having one tall side wall and one short. I'll store my tall pitchers in there. Being able to pull that out will make it easy to reach the pitchers. It could also store vases (may need dividers for safety) or other tall objects.
@SweetStuffOnMonarchLane yes! I had the over the fridge vertical storage and it’s great!
what about an existing corner that had a Susan but now is just a deep mess the back wall is flimsy but what can i do with it to get it organized
Check for after market inserts. Add lazy Susan back in? There’s ideas on Pinterest as well. Best one I saw was a simple lazy Susan with garbage pails mounted for a spinning recycle center!
Could you drill holes in the under-sink tilt-out bin to create aeration? That’s what I would do!
I guess that would bring fresh air, but where’s it going to drain? Inside the cabinet?
I hate my corner lazy Susan cabinet and plan to replace it with a blind corner cabinet when I come redo the cabinets. I have one of those tip out things in front of my sink and I can’t wait to get rid of it. It’s such a waste!
I’m glad I’m not alone 🤣
Great video with the common sense issues that come back and bite the costumer after the install is completed and the kitchen designer is long gone with your$$$ , I'm just starting out in the kitchen design world and finding out it's all about THE DETAILS... big thanks for the vid.
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I love my corner lazy Susan.
The garbage cabinet is a no-no I have 1 but I use it for recycling only, which recovers its useful purpose .
That’s a good compromise!
Sorry, I'm going to have to disagree on the lazy Suzanne corner cabinet with the 45 degree doors. We have a KraftMaid double lazy Suzanne with independent turning tables and no center pole. I love them so much. I can put all kinds of pots, pans, and bowls on them of any size since there is no center pole. I don't mind having to line up the turntable as there is a spring-loaded notch thing that stops the turntable when it gets to the correct spot.
You got the Mac daddy of corner cabinets! That’s one I’ll concede!🧑🎨
Do pull out drawers in cabinets rob space? Sure! The benefit is that you can actually get to things! Especially bottom shelves!
Who wants to get down in their hands and knees to dig that crockpot out from the very back of the lower shelf!? Nobody! And, lets face it, anything un the very back if yhe cabinet might ss well be in a time capsule! Because you won't see it for years and you'll probably forget it exists entirely.
We currently have one cabinet with pull outs on the bottom shelf. One if them holds the afore mentioned large crock pot. It's So nice to be able to pull that drawer out and easily get to that heavy crock pot. 😊
Time capsule slayed me! 🙏
The corner cabinet. Yes. I agree. I hate these things. Just corners in a kitchen where two cabinets meat is annoying to me. Ours don't have that door, they're just two regular cabinet bases with one big corner cabinet that you access through either door. The contortions I have to do to reach anything is painful. I store mostly rarely used stuff but it's still a literal pain. When we build our new home, the kitchen isn't going to have cabinets that wrap corners. It'd just going to be a galley style with straight line of cabinets on either side and no wrap around cabinetry. I'm getting too old for that junk.
Amen. My long arms found all kinds of lost items off the rails at great personal peril 🤣