I had 3 corner cabinets in my old kitchen, very small space. I wanted to get rid of all of them, wanted a corner pantry but my kitchen is too small, so I went with a galley style so no corners. Kept the flat tall pantry, wall oven/microwave and fridge at the far end so the space was opened up. Designed it myself and got the Ikea person to check, they installed it and I’m so happy, all drawers so really easy access for an old chook like me haha.
We have a U-shaped kitchen with one leg of the U acting as a separator or breakfast bar from the family room. Our dead corner occurred where the wall with the sink met the breakfast bar section. I didn't want to loose the corner storage and I dislike the turntables that are often installed in corner. So I had the contractor cut an opening on the back side of the breakfast bar, the side facing the family room. He framed it out and added a door that matched the rest of the cabinets. I access this storage from the family room side of the breakfast bar. It's a great place to store larger things like cake carriers, punch bowls, etc. If you have the space, this could probable be accomplished with two base cabinets... one facing the kitchen and the other facing the family room. We didn't have quite enough space for that but we found a way to make it work.
My kitchen from the 1960s has a similar setup-the rogue cabinet that faces the breakfast area has a drawer for silverware and an underneath area for the coffeemaker, etc. I’m not a fan of lazy Susan corners (stuff falls off!).
We didn't have enough room for a full depth peninsula between the sink and the open dining room, so we used wall cabinets on the floor with doors on both sides (except against the sink base).
My Aunt Donna had a cupboard on the backside of her kitchen counter like that. It faced the living room and us kids had our toys stashed in there. Always thought that was a cool idea. 😊 I miss her😢
If the corner is adjacent to the sink unit, you might want to use a filler with a removable panel and then hide the gear for a five stage reverse osmosis water filtration system. That frees the under sink space where you would typically house that hardware. Consider making the unit slidable into the sink area for changing filters.
The house I grew up in had an under cabinet tank water heater in that space. Almost instant hot water to the kitchen sink and the bathroom that was adjacent to the kitchen (on the other side of the wall).
I have exactly this design - the sink is in the blind corner cabinet (single sink, with the drainer above the corner and the actual sink easily accessible above the cabinet doors), and the trash can under the sink and the RO filter under the drainer - that way when I want to replace filters I just need to get the trash can out and slide the filter bundle out. I have to access it once every half year, so the inconvenience of accessing the blind corner is no biggie.
My kitchen was rather small. I redid it with IKEA, I used the corner cabinet with the lazy Susan. It worked out fantastically, lots of space for storage in it.
Thanks Mark! I hate corner cabinets and was just trying to figure out how to design this on the Ikea planner without inserting a corner cabinet. You say most people don't want to block of their corners. I say I would rather block it off than try digging through one to find something.
I like the old school version that has the door attached to the lazy suzan. Those were so stable and strong. The ones with just a pole tend to wear from unbalanced weight.
My husband customized my craft studio in our dining room. We used both upper and base cabinets from Home Depot. To solve the corner base cabinet issue and 3" spacer required to " make it work", my husband custom built a card stock tower for my 8 1/2x 11 and my 9 x 12 card stock. This sits between the blind cabinet and the drawer set on the other side. I am really pleased with the modification. To complete the card stock tower; we purchased several white shelves in various sizes, hard board, metal shelf pins,and the jig.
I bought an IKEA kitchen for a previous home and absolutely loved it. Fitted the corner cab with a swing out carousel and it was one of the best designs I've ever seen. It functioned independently of the door and could be pulled and swung out to allow acceess to the entire surface. Loved it! Two things to be aware of if you use their design software - IKEA countertops are designed to be installed with butt joints, rather than fitting together with a 45° cut (standard in the US). If you plan on counters with a 45° corner cut, you will need to manually recalculate the length and number of countertop pieces you need. IKEA doesn't cut the corner angles for you. If you want a 45° corner cut you'll need to find someplace to cut your corners. I used their thickest wood butcher block counter and finding a place that could cut a 45 into butcher block wasn't easy. Only one place in the area could do it and they were a high-end manufacturer that didn't want to be bothered with it. My contractor ending up doing the cut himself, and it worked, but it wasn't the perfect cut I'd been looking for. Would I buy another IKEA kitchen? Absolutley.
Oh my goodness, thank you for addressing old home weirdness like the pipe thing. My kitchen is a nightmare of windows, doors, floor vents, pipe and ductwork nonsense. It's so frustrating. But now I might be able to make use of the IKEA design tool to at least get ideas.
I recently had an IKEA kitchen installed and I went with a blocked off corner. I''m really liking having the extra drawers instead of the pull out thingy. Thank you Mark for giving me the inspiration to do it. My IKEA kitchen planner was totally on board with the idea too.
15:45 I wasnt prepared for this quality of montage. very informative video i really needed that as i'm currently designing my U shaped kitchen and oh boy its a hustle .
Even with a lazy susan or other system for increasing the functionality of corner and blind corner base cabinets there is a lot of wasted space. Blocking off the corners is really not wasteful by comparison. Blocking off the corners very often makes the design for adjacent cabinets much more effective. I'm a big fan of blocking off the corner cabinets in most situations. One additional option is to partition off part of a blind corner base cabinet so that only about 8 inches of it is available. This gives you a little extra storage and prevents stored items from being pushed far back into the corner never to be seen again. And yes, I have left notes and other "easter eggs" for future renovators in the empty corner.
I did my IKEA kitchen over a year ago and blocked off my corner to put a microwave on one side and draws on the other. I do not regret having smaller draws instead of a deep hard to access cupboard. I also started thinking this way after watching your channel - another convert!
My first house was old. It had a nice size kitchen but little cabinets. It stopped shy on one corner. I plumbed and made space for my top-loading washer in the corner and the dryer to its right. So the washer was blocked with only “countertop” access. Worked great. Granted, if the washer needed repaired, the dryer would need to be pulled out. But it never did while I lived there. I’ve had other corner cabinet solutions, but my first one was by far the best use of space.
I have a corner unit with carousel and this my favorite kitchen storage solution. It’s so much easier to use than fixed shelves, and holds so much. Things don’t get “lost” in the back because there really isn’t a back.
This time around, i had a walk in pantry at one end and a half wall to the dining room at the other end. So i simply put a standard cabinet in the corner and turned it 90° it so it opened into the pantry at one end and into the dining room at the other end. Presto! No pesky corner cabinet. No wasted space!
Done this on 2 kitchens Idesigned and had made. This allowed me to have wider drawers - have not missed corners at all and no more "head in a cupboard". Also I have 4 drawers instead of 3 - measure height of plates, pots etc. You can gain an extra drawer using wasted space above these plates etc.
Great ideas. Draws straight to the corner on the left and a rollout work bench on the right. Some stored items are needed rarely. Like for Christmas or the holiday season. Or even a hidden safe for valuables.
Here's a seventh idea for a corner. When one 'wing' of the kitchen is a peninsula, I turn the corner cabinet 180 degrees so it opens into the room on the other side of the peninsula. It becomes extra storage for that room. If it's a dining room it is a good place for storing party dishes and table linens.
Great video! I have a really small kitchen and I think the big takeaway for me is to thing about actual usable storage space instead of thinking I must use the corner. Plus six ways to achieve a corner. Thanks!
I think the "no corner" option is great if you are putting two banks of drawers on either side. But if you're doing a drawer/door combo you might as well have a blind corner cabinet. Better to have the space and not use it than wish you had it down the road. Great video!
Would be less than half a closet if you got an upper corner cabinet using the space. Or none at all if corner is at an outside corner. How about: An ultra-secret hiding spot in the ceiling at the basement or level below?
Leave the space open with dummy doors and fill the space with a couple of small trolleys. You can pull trolleys in and out easily, for pantry-type storage or rarely used appliances they are great, they're very adaptable and accessible and you can change your mind at a later date. It's by far the best option.
Great idea. Draws straight to the corner on the left and a rollout work bench on the right. Some stored items are needed rarely. Like for Christmas or the holiday season.
Love it. One of the trolleys could be set up with small appliances to reduce counter clutter. That could be useful for those who like to use them with considerable frequency but find them too heavy to lift up and down as needed. The lower shelf can be used to store attachments or associated paraphernalia.
Thank you for the corner base filler idea… I did not know these were a thing… for weeks I’ve been trying to figure out a solution for a corner area of my studio kitchen, this is perfect.
I've got one more to add to the list (that might even save a little money): In our kitchen, we made a diagonal, similar to the diagonal cabinet you show, but with NO cabinet there. Our contractor built a couple of shelves that attach to the back and sides, with a base, too, of course. We bought a couple of big baskets that sit on the shelves plus we have access to the corners to store less used items. No wasted space! You just have to be OK with the open shelf look. You could probably get a matching door, but the installation gets quite a bit more involved.
Here's my solution. I'm about halfway through my kitchen remodel as of this week. What I decided to do in the corner is put in a walk in closet there at a 45 degree angle similar to what Mark suggested. No lower or upper! Just a floor to ceiling closet with a double door opening. I'll have a TON of space now, and nothing was wasted. Full disclosure, the whole job is being done with a semi-custom cabinet company (called Decora), but obviously the closet was a custom request. So I'm guessing IKEA probably doesn't have a ready-made closet solution to choose from to pull this off. Does anyone know for sure?
The continuous hunt for the perfect corner. I chose the swing out insert. It has a weight limit but seems to be perfect for what we use it for. Some of tbese others i also like
Our safe is in the corner space. We rarely have to access it but when we do it has a slide out pane discreetly clipped onto the side of the useable unit so we just slide that out remove the shelf and get to the safe. No-one would know it was there and you can't move the sliding panel unless you know where the 2 panel release clips are.
I put my cooker and hood at 45 degrees. I use the triangle behind it to store pots and pans, and there's extra space on either side for trivets to move pans off the heat.
Another solution that I have used is put a small pantry there. Basically, however, you want to 45 across the corner. That's your door. Just make it as narrow as you can get away with. There you go, a pantry in the corner, and you can utilize 99% of the corner. Also, solve having any crazy countertop situation.
You could use the blind corner in the kitchen and throw in a small built-in book shelves on the back side of the wall, like dining room. It could be a great game storage area, cuz there never is enough room for games.
The best corner solution I ever built was, closing that corner with a concrete wall on both sides and under the counter top, and add a metal door on the outside wall, using the space for a small gas tank for the kitchen stove. It could also be used for storage, or extend it out into the yard with a roof and use it as a dog house.
I used the large corner cabinet that is supposed to have a lazy Susan in it. I got just the base. I have a gas cutoff pipe in this area and I needed access to it so I built my own shelves on just one side of the cabinet to work around this. The empty height of the other half where the pipe is lets me store tall cutting boards and baking sheets by standing them on end.
13:58 This makes good sense. If you can add a door to the piece that you moved, then that space could be used to store a big sack of rice for bulk food purchases.
😂😂😂fun saturday...love the 45 because when I am cooking and baking it allows a greater surface to place hot baking pans and such but I only have one in my kitchen by my stove, works well...good job👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻always a thumbs up😂😂😂😂wow...!!!!Really learned something new...
i did the blocked off corner for my kitchen but am fully utilizing the blocked off space. I opened the wall so that i could access the area from an adjacent hallway. I ran all the phone, TV, cable, and networking wires coming up into that area from the crawlspace underneath. Relatively easy, if a little low and cramped, to change connections around over the years as equipment and providers have changed.
We did the 45 degrees out from the wall option last year, we are very happy with how it turned out but it was by far the most challenging part of the kitchen install. Couple of points to note: You're left with quite a bit of space behind the cabinet that you need to do something with, The most obvious thing is to build a 45 degree wall. Our hob was on this unit so we needed the wall for the extraction hood Unless you build the wall and build it directly behind the cabinet, the counter top will not be wide enough to reach back so you may need to get creative ( we added 2 inches of tiles at the back fo make up the difference) The counter top install is a lot more challenging for a diyer. This occupied my brain for a good month before hand! We used cover panels as the spacers. We got two standard cover panels, cut them half , attached a piece either side of the 45 degree unit and one on 90 degree units. They are installed flush to the base cabinet. It looks nice and tidy now, and it achieves the space for the drawers, but your way might be easier I think the plan and reality of where the units need to be adjusted to be right might be different so i would definitely be very cautious if you're tight for space on your plan
A tip from an ikea kitchen worker (Germany): You can put an 80 cm cabinet in the corner and just have the smallest door (20 cm) with a wide hinge to have better access. Or you pull it out a little more with a 40 cm door than you saved 20 cm in comparison to the big corner cabinet. You can also use the wall corner cabinets if there’s an obstacle in the corner and usually you don’t need filler it s enough to put a side cover on all four sides. Saves space and looks more neat!
I renovated a kitchen, where the box for the plumbing was 60x60 cm (24x24 inches). While the box was mostly empty. I removed the box, and build it way smaller. About 30x10 cm (12x4 inches), but larger very close to the floor. I designed with basic shelved corner modules, as if the box weren't there, then modified them during installation. I had to make cutout from the outertop to fit around the box. I got: A connected corer countertop, rather than two sections, split by a giant box. An entire new corner wall cabinet, with shelves, except the cutout in the back. Almost an entire new corner cabinet under the coutertop, with shelves, Of course, Lasy Susan weren't an option, because it would clash with the plumbing box. It took some extra work to modify the standard cabinets, removing parts of it, and adding supports for the structural integrity, and shelves support. I was very happy with the connected coutertop, rather than having two sections, as well as the added storage I got. I considered blocking off the entire corner, under the countertop, while the corner module reduced the width of the drawers, it added more valuable storage space.
Great video, not least for a good lesson in how to use the ikea kitchen planner! But you missed a cheeky one: (admittedly you can only do this in a new build or if you’re doing a bigger re-fit) you can lose the space in the kitchen and create a lower cabinet in the room next door, through the wall. The resulting cabinet, (in the room next door), would look flush to the wall; a little bit of space saving magic 😊
My previous kitchen I had a peninsular or a return, so had two corner cupboards to deal with. With one I kept the corner cupboard but the top shelf I got my son cabinet maker to cut the top corner shelf back 6-8" less then the bottom. This made bottom shelf easy to see and access . The top shelf was narrow therefore better storage for single items. I think I would do it again. The other corner cabinet I had open onto the dining room side, then I used two sets of drawers on the kitchen side.
Minute 15…perfection - I’ve done 2 of my kitchen remods w/ikea planner…had a corner window on the first one & did exactly what you describe. It was awesome!! I still miss that little corner view over the yard while doing the dishes ; )
I did a crazy thing in my kitchen. The corner cabinet inner can go up or down. Like a trashcan pull out. With a smooth shock, it comes up pretty easily and pushes back down , seemingly fit with the rest of the counter
Two comments: if you have a corner filler cabinet you can put in there the water boiler … I had ones a kitchen in a small flat like that which was the best use of such space that I have seen. Currently I have a kitchen with a angled corner cabinet. Pay attention that you do not stand „often“ in front of it or the two neighbour cabinets otherwise you block the opening of three cabinets! In our case we have the cook top in the angle and the dishwasher next to it: this makes cooking as a couple an absolute nightmare as you always get into each others way! We are currently planning to redo this kitchen and will definitely not put a single appliance or sink in those three corner cabinets!
I had custom cabinets made, nothing fancy though. Couldn't really figure out what to do with the corner because of the weird measurements etc. So we just made it. I told him to leave it like it is. I actually really like it. Is it is a storage place for very large items. That also happen to be relatively light. it works great for what I need it for. No shelves, no Lazy Susan. Just a space for big items.
Most efficient use of a corner in the kitchen is to place the stove in the corner. This makes use of counterspace that is usually not that useful and also allows a lot of counterspace on either side of the stove.
At the top I had a corner cabinet and though at the top was a lot of space where I put holiday dishes at the very top. Again it was worth it. I had a lowboy for everyday dishes and silverware. with napkins and other in the dining area and just a 4 chair dining. I had an open living dining that the dining spilled a bit in the living room but it was not bad because the were the same. It worked for me in my 1000 foot condo.
The best corner cabinet I've come across (Not Ikea) was an Ell shaped unit with an Ell shaped door that had two hinges. One hinge at one toe of the Ell and the other at the apex. That way, with the door open, the inside space was easy to access
With the base corner filler that space is not wasted... you can make pop up features like a spice cabinet that hides there until you lift it up out of hiding.
If your plan has the means to access that corner through a utility, closet, or even garage that’s an option as well. The space will need to back up to an open stud space etc. just put a drawer, door, or even hidden access from the adjacent room.
Great information Mark. I think the cabinet on a 45 is really interesting but I have a problem. I'm short. If the base is angled how do shorties reach the corner cabinet above? I need counter space so I don't want to make the base narrow. Any ideas??
Yeah. Angles are not the best option for reaching upper cabinets, even for taller people. However, you can also do similar things with the wall cabinets. In the wall corner video, I'll cover this. It's a good problem to try and solve! Thanks for the question.
Does anyone make a motorized pop-up corner? It seems easy enough to engineer given ample overhead space, but I guess it could be problematic because spills would get in there through the gaps in the countertop.
I know in addition to blocking off base corners you sometimes also block off upper cabinet corners. Is there some device that would install into that upper dead corner that could be pulled down for additional storage (I'm thinking of something that would be used for secretly storing valuables)? You have featured devices for the base corner that rise up on a mechanical lift and reveal extra storage but there must be something that pulls down for the upper corner.
2 more ways. If the corner is has a peninsula on 1 side (open), do the back side door. For your situation of the chase for pipes. Put that corner as 45 degree angle again, since that diagonal depth does not go fully back (where the chase is occupying space).
Thanks for the video. You gave an excellent solution for base cabinets and those weird shaped corners. How would you address the wall cabinets in that same scenario?
Thanks! I actually try to block my wall corners whenever I can. It makes the left and right of the space more usable with a wider cabinet and the worst part of the corner to access is gone.
I used a regular base cabinet and tucked it in about half way. Used a smaller door and a filler piece on the outside corner for the door to rest against. The hidden part is only about a foot or so so access not really an issue
The blind corner in my kitchen wasn't accessible and was fairly large as it went from the sink on the east wall to the stove on the north wall. It seemed like a waste of potential storage space in a house with very little storage. A kitchen remodel wasn't an option, but through the north wall was the laundry room, so I opened up that wall to gain access to that blind corner. It gave me a great spot to store my rolling pet food containers.
My other home had two blind cabinets top and bottom. At first I loathed them. Then I realized it was the perfect space for Mason jars canning supplies and ice cream makers / larger small appliances, not frequently used.
Interesting options, thanks for sharing. I'm new to looking at Ikea and contemplating using their boxes with third party doors and drawers; the limitation on corner bases is indeed a challenge. One thought I've had is to create a custom size blind cabinet by utilizing only one door and a filler or end panel over the 'open' space from the 'missing door' plus the perpendicular filler to offset the next cabinet around the corner. This would also allow you to deal with that pipe cover corner you showed and/or simply 'pull' the custom blind base from the actual corner in order to not leave the whole corner void or even to cover a custom run length with an extremely flexible option. On planner looks like would work. Do you see any 'gotchas'?
Yeah, this is a great option as well. Depending on the size of the blind you could even use a drawer front as a panel to keep a more constant look. Sounds good to me.
You could also put a tall pantry cabinet in the corner and cover up that pipe, you would still have that triangle space back there but the box or pipe would be hidden. Put the other base cabinets against the other walls and cut the counter top to cover.
At about 07:30, you could probably hold down your shift key while rotating that cabinet to constrain the rotation to 45 and 90 degree angles. Give it a try.
What's on the other side of the wall? It would depend heavily on what type of room adjoins the kitchen, its layout, and assuming you are not dealing with a supporting wall, but the dead space configuration could provide a small storage space for an adjoining room. Storage for a bathroom or laundry room. A bedroom or small office space could be equipped with drawers.
When you open the door on the left and it rotates the circle shelves from the corner, do you actually lose the shelves that would normally be behind the door?
Thank you. I have a spare room and I have about 100 or more books. needless to say I want to build in an L shaped bookcase with a magic corner and the window seat has to have the ability to fit my xl twin mattress and the botttom drawer has to be the extender to turn the twin into a double?? whatever size it is when you pull the second twin out. for when married couples come over to visit.
I enjoy your videos. If you block out the lower cabinets in the corner, do you do the same on the uppers? It seems like it would look more uniform, but from an access perspective the upper seem not as bad as lower corners,
I usually do. I like the look and it normally works out to be more functional. However, if the space lost is too valuable, it’s important to think it all through. Appreciate you watching the video.
Have a 36" corner cabinet with 3 trash can recycle bins - Want an Ikea corner cabinet to do the same but Ikea only comes in 38" and that would offset my sink to the window. Can the Ikea corner cabinet be cut down? Or is it ok to offset the sink to the window?
I have in other videos. it depends on the material of course. Laminate being the only real "problem". But it's been done lots of times. Or do you mean on the planner?
We have a low window with 2 corners next to them in a galley kitchen. The apartment building is on a slant so the right corner will have a small sliver of space if we put a straight cabinet. How could we manage this? Maybe a seat storage that reaches up to the window sill and bring the cabinets to the wall with custom filler by the wall? Then we could add the pull-out extension to get full use of the cabinets.
We have a skinny gap, maybe 20cm width in total, between the blind corner and the fridge freezer. The designer turned it into a skinny, open unit that is ideal for shallow baking trays and chopping boards.
Just a suggestion that I have never heard anyone mention. Use the blind corner, attach the countertop to a popup set of shelves or have the countertop use a hinge to give access to something like a small deep freezer. Everyone, myself included, always thinks about accessing the corner cabinets from the front, why not from the top?
for a corner unit with a lazy susan, the arc of the susan will only fill about 75% of the cabinet. Also they tend to be two layers. A drawer bank will give you 100% access to the cabinet and much denser (3-4 drawers for example). You could quite quickly get more effective storage by blocking off a corner evne though it might feel counter intuitive. For me a lazy susan or pullout is still convenient for appliances and less used items where the volume of a deep blind corner may be of benefit.
The plan for my kitchen is this. I have a peninsula separating my kitchen from an eating area. We have a blind cabinet with shelves and lots of crawling inside of it. My plan is to replace the corner with a regular cabinet that opens into the eating area. The non blind portion of the blind cabinet will be replaced a row of drawers. Easy access to all the space. Storage for the eating area. No more crawling into the cabinet.
We decided on a new build. I told the builder no L shape kitchens and no barn doors. The plan we picked included an L shape. To go around that I had them push out the exterior wall to create a corner wall. This also added a little storage alcove in the garage. The house before had an L shape and the lazy Susan and cabinets drove me nuts. Too much dead space.
For the corner, with or without a pipe conduit in the corner, consider a less-deep bank of drawers on the 45°, and narrower width (eg 300mm/1'). I almost went with that, but came up with a different solution of partially obscuring 300mm of base cabinet (for sink) into the corner (so 'half a blind'). Currently have a traditional corner with a Susan which I think is inefficient overall.
I've done a video on wall corners too. But yes, corner open shelves are definitely possible and create a more open felling to the otherwise cluttered wall cabinets.
Thanks. Generally I would avoid this situation at all costs. The window makes ventilation pretty hard. While you can open the window, it’s not forced out. Maybe a downdraft extractor could work, but that’s a while other can of beans.
Sorry, I am not into kitchen planing right now and therefore the video is a little bit long to watch it in total. But what I have seen: you mention the blind corner and just use cabinets next to it. What I wanted to add, because I think you have not mentioned this: Besides better access, the total usable space is the same or better than using corner solutions. In a German forum somebody actually calculated the area of corner pullouts, carousel / lazy sue (I believe is the term in english?) and standard drawers (which can be bigger when using a blind corner) and the space - as I said - was same or better with the standard drawers. Of course this may differ in some settings, but usually the blind corner is the best option.
Appreciate the comment in spite of not watching the whole video!!! And yes, the blind corner with proper pullout would probably be the best option. Im not concerned with "wasted space" as much as the usability of the option of blocking it off. But it has to be the right thing for the client and how they see themselves using the space!
Yet another reason, of several, why I LOVE a classic galley kitchen.
I like the trick of leaving a fake skeleton in the empty corner space, so anyone who renovates the kitchen in the future will find it😊
Or a duffle bag of fake cash. Ha
I put a remote control sex toy in the ensuite wall when I redid it. 😎
Great idea
Remember the scratch marks on the work top and walls for extra creep factor. 😂
I had 3 corner cabinets in my old kitchen, very small space. I wanted to get rid of all of them, wanted a corner pantry but my kitchen is too small, so I went with a galley style so no corners. Kept the flat tall pantry, wall oven/microwave and fridge at the far end so the space was opened up. Designed it myself and got the Ikea person to check, they installed it and I’m so happy, all drawers so really easy access for an old chook like me haha.
Sounds awesome. The best corner is no corner lol.
We have a U-shaped kitchen with one leg of the U acting as a separator or breakfast bar from the family room. Our dead corner occurred where the wall with the sink met the breakfast bar section. I didn't want to loose the corner storage and I dislike the turntables that are often installed in corner. So I had the contractor cut an opening on the back side of the breakfast bar, the side facing the family room. He framed it out and added a door that matched the rest of the cabinets. I access this storage from the family room side of the breakfast bar. It's a great place to store larger things like cake carriers, punch bowls, etc.
If you have the space, this could probable be accomplished with two base cabinets... one facing the kitchen and the other facing the family room. We didn't have quite enough space for that but we found a way to make it work.
My kitchen from the 1960s has a similar setup-the rogue cabinet that faces the breakfast area has a drawer for silverware and an underneath area for the coffeemaker, etc. I’m not a fan of lazy Susan corners (stuff falls off!).
We didn't have enough room for a full depth peninsula between the sink and the open dining room, so we used wall cabinets on the floor with doors on both sides (except against the sink base).
My Aunt Donna had a cupboard on the backside of her kitchen counter like that. It faced the living room and us kids had our toys stashed in there. Always thought that was a cool idea. 😊 I miss her😢
My M-I-L had that 😊 and our home doesn't 😢, same custom builder 🤔
If the corner is adjacent to the sink unit, you might want to use a filler with a removable panel and then hide the gear for a five stage reverse osmosis water filtration system. That frees the under sink space where you would typically house that hardware. Consider making the unit slidable into the sink area for changing filters.
Great idea! Creative way to use the space and for some people, this will be the best way to go about it! Thanks for the comment!
Rollin, that's smart!
Great idea! Thanks!
The house I grew up in had an under cabinet tank water heater in that space. Almost instant hot water to the kitchen sink and the bathroom that was adjacent to the kitchen (on the other side of the wall).
I have exactly this design - the sink is in the blind corner cabinet (single sink, with the drainer above the corner and the actual sink easily accessible above the cabinet doors), and the trash can under the sink and the RO filter under the drainer - that way when I want to replace filters I just need to get the trash can out and slide the filter bundle out. I have to access it once every half year, so the inconvenience of accessing the blind corner is no biggie.
My kitchen was rather small. I redid it with IKEA, I used the corner cabinet with the lazy Susan. It worked out fantastically, lots of space for storage in it.
Thanks Mark! I hate corner cabinets and was just trying to figure out how to design this on the Ikea planner without inserting a corner cabinet. You say most people don't want to block of their corners. I say I would rather block it off than try digging through one to find something.
I like the old school version that has the door attached to the lazy suzan. Those were so stable and strong. The ones with just a pole tend to wear from unbalanced weight.
I love my corner cabinet in my kitchen; I have three large bins on a rotating arm for my garbage and recycling 😊
Ah yes the 3 bin recycle unit is pretty decent.
@@MTKDofficialthat’s genius ! We don’t have that in France, do you have a picture ?
My husband customized my craft studio in our dining room. We used both upper and base cabinets from Home Depot. To solve the corner base cabinet issue and 3" spacer required to " make it work", my husband custom built a card stock tower for my 8 1/2x 11 and my 9 x 12 card stock. This sits between the blind cabinet and the drawer set on the other side.
I am really pleased with the modification. To complete the card stock tower; we purchased several white shelves in various sizes, hard board, metal shelf pins,and the jig.
I bought an IKEA kitchen for a previous home and absolutely loved it. Fitted the corner cab with a swing out carousel and it was one of the best designs I've ever seen. It functioned independently of the door and could be pulled and swung out to allow acceess to the entire surface. Loved it!
Two things to be aware of if you use their design software -
IKEA countertops are designed to be installed with butt joints, rather than fitting together with a 45° cut (standard in the US).
If you plan on counters with a 45° corner cut, you will need to manually recalculate the length and number of countertop pieces you need.
IKEA doesn't cut the corner angles for you. If you want a 45° corner cut you'll need to find someplace to cut your corners.
I used their thickest wood butcher block counter and finding a place that could cut a 45 into butcher block wasn't easy. Only one place in the area could do it and they were a high-end manufacturer that didn't want to be bothered with it. My contractor ending up doing the cut himself, and it worked, but it wasn't the perfect cut I'd been looking for.
Would I buy another IKEA kitchen? Absolutley.
Oh my goodness, thank you for addressing old home weirdness like the pipe thing. My kitchen is a nightmare of windows, doors, floor vents, pipe and ductwork nonsense. It's so frustrating. But now I might be able to make use of the IKEA design tool to at least get ideas.
I'm so glad the video was helpful! The design tool is great for just that. I know what it's like to work around all those issues, but you can do it!
I recently had an IKEA kitchen installed and I went with a blocked off corner. I''m really liking having the extra drawers instead of the pull out thingy. Thank you Mark for giving me the inspiration to do it. My IKEA kitchen planner was totally on board with the idea too.
Awesome! Glad things went well and you are enjoying the kitchen!!
When it blocked off, does that mean you can't get in it and mice can't set up house there?
@@653j521 Right. The blocked off area is not accessible.
15:45 I wasnt prepared for this quality of montage. very informative video i really needed that as i'm currently designing my U shaped kitchen and oh boy its a hustle .
Even with a lazy susan or other system for increasing the functionality of corner and blind corner base cabinets there is a lot of wasted space. Blocking off the corners is really not wasteful by comparison. Blocking off the corners very often makes the design for adjacent cabinets much more effective. I'm a big fan of blocking off the corner cabinets in most situations. One additional option is to partition off part of a blind corner base cabinet so that only about 8 inches of it is available. This gives you a little extra storage and prevents stored items from being pushed far back into the corner never to be seen again. And yes, I have left notes and other "easter eggs" for future renovators in the empty corner.
I did my IKEA kitchen over a year ago and blocked off my corner to put a microwave on one side and draws on the other. I do not regret having smaller draws instead of a deep hard to access cupboard. I also started thinking this way after watching your channel - another convert!
🎉🎉 Awesome! Glad it worked out! Thanks for commenting.
My first house was old. It had a nice size kitchen but little cabinets. It stopped shy on one corner. I plumbed and made space for my top-loading washer in the corner and the dryer to its right. So the washer was blocked with only “countertop” access. Worked great. Granted, if the washer needed repaired, the dryer would need to be pulled out. But it never did while I lived there. I’ve had other corner cabinet solutions, but my first one was by far the best use of space.
I have a corner unit with carousel and this my favorite kitchen storage solution. It’s so much easier to use than fixed shelves, and holds so much. Things don’t get “lost” in the back because there really isn’t a back.
You have one of the god ones!
This time around, i had a walk in pantry at one end and a half wall to the dining room at the other end. So i simply put a standard cabinet in the corner and turned it 90° it so it opened into the pantry at one end and into the dining room at the other end. Presto! No pesky corner cabinet. No wasted space!
Done this on 2 kitchens Idesigned and had made. This allowed me to have wider drawers - have not missed corners at all and no more "head in a cupboard". Also I have 4 drawers instead of 3 - measure height of plates, pots etc. You can gain an extra drawer using wasted space above these plates etc.
Well said! This is a perfect example of the usability of a blocked corner! Thanks for watching.
Great ideas.
Draws straight to the corner on the left and a rollout work bench on the right.
Some stored items are needed rarely. Like for Christmas or the holiday season.
Or even a hidden safe for valuables.
Here's a seventh idea for a corner. When one 'wing' of the kitchen is a peninsula, I turn the corner cabinet 180 degrees so it opens into the room on the other side of the peninsula. It becomes extra storage for that room. If it's a dining room it is a good place for storing party dishes and table linens.
Great video!
I have a really small kitchen and I think the big takeaway for me is to thing about actual usable storage space instead of thinking I must use the corner. Plus six ways to achieve a corner.
Thanks!
Glad it was helpful and thanks so much for watching!
Sounds like a perfect pantry in the corner!
I think the "no corner" option is great if you are putting two banks of drawers on either side. But if you're doing a drawer/door combo you might as well have a blind corner cabinet. Better to have the space and not use it than wish you had it down the road. Great video!
I have an old fashioned corner 2 tiered turn table and love it - I have no problems.
Bonus option for a corner. Add a closet on the other side of the wall.
YES! Pro tip!
Would be less than half a closet if you got an upper corner cabinet using the space. Or none at all if corner is at an outside corner.
How about: An ultra-secret hiding spot in the ceiling at the basement or level below?
Leave the space open with dummy doors and fill the space with a couple of small trolleys. You can pull trolleys in and out easily, for pantry-type storage or rarely used appliances they are great, they're very adaptable and accessible and you can change your mind at a later date. It's by far the best option.
Love this idea! Thanks for the input! There are so many interesting ways to design a corner!
Great idea.
Draws straight to the corner on the left and a rollout work bench on the right.
Some stored items are needed rarely. Like for Christmas or the holiday season.
Love it. One of the trolleys could be set up with small appliances to reduce counter clutter. That could be useful for those who like to use them with considerable frequency but find them too heavy to lift up and down as needed. The lower shelf can be used to store attachments or associated paraphernalia.
Thank you for the corner base filler idea… I did not know these were a thing… for weeks I’ve been trying to figure out a solution for a corner area of my studio kitchen, this is perfect.
Sweet! Glad I could help. Thanks for letting me know.
I've got one more to add to the list (that might even save a little money): In our kitchen, we made a diagonal, similar to the diagonal cabinet you show, but with NO cabinet there. Our contractor built a couple of shelves that attach to the back and sides, with a base, too, of course. We bought a couple of big baskets that sit on the shelves plus we have access to the corners to store less used items. No wasted space! You just have to be OK with the open shelf look. You could probably get a matching door, but the installation gets quite a bit more involved.
Awesome idea! I like the use of baskets too.
Here's my solution. I'm about halfway through my kitchen remodel as of this week. What I decided to do in the corner is put in a walk in closet there at a 45 degree angle similar to what Mark suggested. No lower or upper! Just a floor to ceiling closet with a double door opening. I'll have a TON of space now, and nothing was wasted. Full disclosure, the whole job is being done with a semi-custom cabinet company (called Decora), but obviously the closet was a custom request. So I'm guessing IKEA probably doesn't have a ready-made closet solution to choose from to pull this off. Does anyone know for sure?
Yeah, not to my knowledge.
No, not for kitchens, but you could potentially do with a corner piece for other stuff IKEA has, like a corner wardrobe part.
@@cocorita Yes! I think that might work 👍
Great idea.
Exactly what we have
The continuous hunt for the perfect corner. I chose the swing out insert. It has a weight limit but seems to be perfect for what we use it for. Some of tbese others i also like
It was really helpful to see you show how different options could be done on the planner! Looking forward to the pantry video!
Thanks. Glad it was helpful.
Our safe is in the corner space. We rarely have to access it but when we do it has a slide out pane discreetly clipped onto the side of the useable unit so we just slide that out remove the shelf and get to the safe. No-one would know it was there and you can't move the sliding panel unless you know where the 2 panel release clips are.
I put my cooker and hood at 45 degrees. I use the triangle behind it to store pots and pans, and there's extra space on either side for trivets to move pans off the heat.
Another solution that I have used is put a small pantry there. Basically, however, you want to 45 across the corner. That's your door. Just make it as narrow as you can get away with. There you go, a pantry in the corner, and you can utilize 99% of the corner. Also, solve having any crazy countertop situation.
You could use the blind corner in the kitchen and throw in a small built-in book shelves on the back side of the wall, like dining room. It could be a great game storage area, cuz there never is enough room for games.
The best corner solution I ever built was, closing that corner with a concrete wall on both sides and under the counter top, and add a metal door on the outside wall, using the space for a small gas tank for the kitchen stove. It could also be used for storage, or extend it out into the yard with a roof and use it as a dog house.
I used the large corner cabinet that is supposed to have a lazy Susan in it. I got just the base. I have a gas cutoff pipe in this area and I needed access to it so I built my own shelves on just one side of the cabinet to work around this. The empty height of the other half where the pipe is lets me store tall cutting boards and baking sheets by standing them on end.
Sweet! Great solution.
At 14:20, you made my day!! So glad, thank you!!
13:58 This makes good sense. If you can add a door to the piece that you moved, then that space could be used to store a big sack of rice for bulk food purchases.
I don't think ikea designer know about the base corner fillers, I just found out about it Thanks to this, gotta order one now
Great!
😂😂😂fun saturday...love the 45 because when I am cooking and baking it allows a greater surface to place hot baking pans and such but I only have one in my kitchen by my stove, works well...good job👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻always a thumbs up😂😂😂😂wow...!!!!Really learned something new...
Thanks Darlene! I love them corners! lol
i did the blocked off corner for my kitchen but am fully utilizing the blocked off space. I opened the wall so that i could access the area from an adjacent hallway. I ran all the phone, TV, cable, and networking wires coming up into that area from the crawlspace underneath. Relatively easy, if a little low and cramped, to change connections around over the years as equipment and providers have changed.
Cool! This is great when the corner is on an inside wall, where you can gain access!! Love it! Thanks for commenting!
We did the 45 degrees out from the wall option last year, we are very happy with how it turned out but it was by far the most challenging part of the kitchen install.
Couple of points to note:
You're left with quite a bit of space behind the cabinet that you need to do something with, The most obvious thing is to build a 45 degree wall. Our hob was on this unit so we needed the wall for the extraction hood
Unless you build the wall and build it directly behind the cabinet, the counter top will not be wide enough to reach back so you may need to get creative ( we added 2 inches of tiles at the back fo make up the difference)
The counter top install is a lot more challenging for a diyer. This occupied my brain for a good month before hand!
We used cover panels as the spacers. We got two standard cover panels, cut them half , attached a piece either side of the 45 degree unit and one on 90 degree units. They are installed flush to the base cabinet. It looks nice and tidy now, and it achieves the space for the drawers, but your way might be easier
I think the plan and reality of where the units need to be adjusted to be right might be different so i would definitely be very cautious if you're tight for space on your plan
A tip from an ikea kitchen worker (Germany): You can put an 80 cm cabinet in the corner and just have the smallest door (20 cm) with a wide hinge to have better access. Or you pull it out a little more with a 40 cm door than you saved 20 cm in comparison to the big corner cabinet.
You can also use the wall corner cabinets if there’s an obstacle in the corner and usually you don’t need filler it s enough to put a side cover on all four sides. Saves space and looks more neat!
Sweet! Thanks for the tip>
Thanks was planning to do this :)
I renovated a kitchen, where the box for the plumbing was 60x60 cm (24x24 inches).
While the box was mostly empty.
I removed the box, and build it way smaller.
About 30x10 cm (12x4 inches), but larger very close to the floor.
I designed with basic shelved corner modules, as if the box weren't there, then modified them during installation.
I had to make cutout from the outertop to fit around the box.
I got:
A connected corer countertop, rather than two sections, split by a giant box.
An entire new corner wall cabinet, with shelves, except the cutout in the back.
Almost an entire new corner cabinet under the coutertop, with shelves,
Of course, Lasy Susan weren't an option, because it would clash with the plumbing box.
It took some extra work to modify the standard cabinets, removing parts of it, and adding supports for the structural integrity, and shelves support.
I was very happy with the connected coutertop, rather than having two sections, as well as the added storage I got.
I considered blocking off the entire corner, under the countertop, while the corner module reduced the width of the drawers, it added more valuable storage space.
Amazing tools and skill on your part, thank you!
Great video, not least for a good lesson in how to use the ikea kitchen planner! But you missed a cheeky one: (admittedly you can only do this in a new build or if you’re doing a bigger re-fit) you can lose the space in the kitchen and create a lower cabinet in the room next door, through the wall. The resulting cabinet, (in the room next door), would look flush to the wall; a little bit of space saving magic 😊
Thanks so much. Yeah that is a great option. My childhood kitchen had something just like that too.
The same idea works for a kitchen peninsula too.
Yes! I’m considering this!
My previous kitchen I had a peninsular or a return, so had two corner cupboards to deal with. With one I kept the corner cupboard but the top shelf I got my son cabinet maker to cut the top corner shelf back 6-8" less then the bottom. This made bottom shelf easy to see and access . The top shelf was narrow therefore better storage for single items. I think I would do it again.
The other corner cabinet I had open onto the dining room side, then I used two sets of drawers on the kitchen side.
For the 45 degree cabinet, it's worth mentioning that it's a bit harder to do the courtertop part
Using drawers as base cabinets provides so much more useable space!
Minute 15…perfection - I’ve done 2 of my kitchen remods w/ikea planner…had a corner window on the first one & did exactly what you describe. It was awesome!! I still miss that little corner view over the yard while doing the dishes ; )
Appreciate the comment! Thanks for the input!
I did a crazy thing in my kitchen. The corner cabinet inner can go up or down. Like a trashcan pull out. With a smooth shock, it comes up pretty easily and pushes back down , seemingly fit with the rest of the counter
Two comments: if you have a corner filler cabinet you can put in there the water boiler … I had ones a kitchen in a small flat like that which was the best use of such space that I have seen. Currently I have a kitchen with a angled corner cabinet. Pay attention that you do not stand „often“ in front of it or the two neighbour cabinets otherwise you block the opening of three cabinets! In our case we have the cook top in the angle and the dishwasher next to it: this makes cooking as a couple an absolute nightmare as you always get into each others way! We are currently planning to redo this kitchen and will definitely not put a single appliance or sink in those three corner cabinets!
Excellent input. Thanks!
I had custom cabinets made, nothing fancy though. Couldn't really figure out what to do with the corner because of the weird measurements etc. So we just made it. I told him to leave it like it is. I actually really like it. Is it is a storage place for very large items. That also happen to be relatively light. it works great for what I need it for. No shelves, no Lazy Susan. Just a space for big items.
Cool. Sounds like you found a way to make it work. Love it
Most efficient use of a corner in the kitchen is to place the stove in the corner. This makes use of counterspace that is usually not that useful and also allows a lot of counterspace on either side of the stove.
This one was super helpful
AMAZING video!
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Love it.
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I once did put my stove in a diagonal corner and loved it.
Hey! I appreciate the comment. Thanks so much!
I had a lazy susan one in a full but very small kitchen. It was worth the money for storage.
I would use that small corner space for cookie sheets and cutting boards to drop down vertically into slots, with a hinge top.
Interesting!
At the top I had a corner cabinet and though at the top was a lot of space where I put holiday dishes at the very top. Again it was worth it. I had a lowboy for everyday dishes and silverware. with napkins and other in the dining area and just a 4 chair dining. I had an open living dining that the dining spilled a bit in the living room but it was not bad because the were the same. It worked for me in my 1000 foot condo.
Thanks for considering pipes in wall!
They can be a real nuisance for sure. Thanks for watching!
Excited to try redrawing using a corner pantry ….
Cut an entrance to the adjoining room in the wall and let the dog sleep in the corner on a comfy bed. Pup will love it and won’t care what room it is.
The best corner cabinet I've come across (Not Ikea) was an Ell shaped unit with an Ell shaped door that had two hinges. One hinge at one toe of the Ell and the other at the apex. That way, with the door open, the inside space was easy to access
I get it ! This is your business and your not just here to help people!
With the base corner filler that space is not wasted... you can make pop up features like a spice cabinet that hides there until you lift it up out of hiding.
YES! Love those!
If your plan has the means to access that corner through a utility, closet, or even garage that’s an option as well.
The space will need to back up to an open stud space etc.
just put a drawer, door, or even hidden access from the adjacent room.
Great information Mark. I think the cabinet on a 45 is really interesting but I have a problem. I'm short. If the base is angled how do shorties reach the corner cabinet above? I need counter space so I don't want to make the base narrow. Any ideas??
Yeah. Angles are not the best option for reaching upper cabinets, even for taller people. However, you can also do similar things with the wall cabinets. In the wall corner video, I'll cover this. It's a good problem to try and solve! Thanks for the question.
Does anyone make a motorized pop-up corner? It seems easy enough to engineer given ample overhead space, but I guess it could be problematic because spills would get in there through the gaps in the countertop.
I know in addition to blocking off base corners you sometimes also block off upper cabinet corners. Is there some device that would install into that upper dead corner that could be pulled down for additional storage (I'm thinking of something that would be used for secretly storing valuables)?
You have featured devices for the base corner that rise up on a mechanical lift and reveal extra storage but there must be something that pulls down for the upper corner.
I'm planning that video now actually. Hope to release it in a few weeks.
2 more ways. If the corner is has a peninsula on 1 side (open), do the back side door. For your situation of the chase for pipes. Put that corner as 45 degree angle again, since that diagonal depth does not go fully back (where the chase is occupying space).
Great ideas!!
Thanks for the video. You gave an excellent solution for base cabinets and those weird shaped corners. How would you address the wall cabinets in that same scenario?
Thanks! I actually try to block my wall corners whenever I can. It makes the left and right of the space more usable with a wider cabinet and the worst part of the corner to access is gone.
I used a regular base cabinet and tucked it in about half way. Used a smaller door and a filler piece on the outside corner for the door to rest against. The hidden part is only about a foot or so so access not really an issue
Cool! That's a really good idea!
This is what I’m planning on doing, an 80cm cupboard with 40cm door showing. The ikea designated corner cabinets are so long.
The blind corner in my kitchen wasn't accessible and was fairly large as it went from the sink on the east wall to the stove on the north wall. It seemed like a waste of potential storage space in a house with very little storage. A kitchen remodel wasn't an option, but through the north wall was the laundry room, so I opened up that wall to gain access to that blind corner. It gave me a great spot to store my rolling pet food containers.
Cool. Sounds like a great solution!
My other home had two blind cabinets top and bottom. At first I loathed them. Then I realized it was the perfect space for Mason jars canning supplies and ice cream makers / larger small appliances, not frequently used.
The blind corner space (the empty one you're not using) could also be used for inserting the electrical stuff for a pop-up computer or TV.
Interesting options, thanks for sharing. I'm new to looking at Ikea and contemplating using their boxes with third party doors and drawers; the limitation on corner bases is indeed a challenge. One thought I've had is to create a custom size blind cabinet by utilizing only one door and a filler or end panel over the 'open' space from the 'missing door' plus the perpendicular filler to offset the next cabinet around the corner. This would also allow you to deal with that pipe cover corner you showed and/or simply 'pull' the custom blind base from the actual corner in order to not leave the whole corner void or even to cover a custom run length with an extremely flexible option. On planner looks like would work. Do you see any 'gotchas'?
Yeah, this is a great option as well. Depending on the size of the blind you could even use a drawer front as a panel to keep a more constant look. Sounds good to me.
You could also put a tall pantry cabinet in the corner and cover up that pipe, you would still have that triangle space back there but the box or pipe would be hidden. Put the other base cabinets against the other walls and cut the counter top to cover.
At about 07:30, you could probably hold down your shift key while rotating that cabinet to constrain the rotation to 45 and 90 degree angles. Give it a try.
Pro tip!! Thanks!
What's on the other side of the wall? It would depend heavily on what type of room adjoins the kitchen, its layout, and assuming you are not dealing with a supporting wall, but the dead space configuration could provide a small storage space for an adjoining room. Storage for a bathroom or laundry room. A bedroom or small office space could be equipped with drawers.
When you open the door on the left and it rotates the circle shelves from the corner, do you actually lose the shelves that would normally be behind the door?
Not sure I am reading your comment right, but the blind corner would not any shelves other than the accessory that pulls out.
Thank you. I have a spare room and I have about 100 or more books. needless to say I want to build in an L shaped bookcase with a magic corner and the window seat has to have the ability to fit my xl twin mattress and the botttom drawer has to be the extender to turn the twin into a double?? whatever size it is when you pull the second twin out. for when married couples come over to visit.
Put a door on the other side of the wall for cubbyhole storage. Or fit a short washer/dryer combo backed into the space from the other side.
Great video!
I enjoy your videos. If you block out the lower cabinets in the corner, do you do the same on the uppers? It seems like it would look more uniform, but from an access perspective the upper seem not as bad as lower corners,
I usually do. I like the look and it normally works out to be more functional. However, if the space lost is too valuable, it’s important to think it all through. Appreciate you watching the video.
Have a 36" corner cabinet with 3 trash can recycle bins - Want an Ikea corner cabinet to do the same but Ikea only comes in 38" and that would offset my sink to the window. Can the Ikea corner cabinet be cut down? Or is it ok to offset the sink to the window?
Did Mark ever address how to finish the countertops if you do a angled corner cabinet?
I have in other videos. it depends on the material of course. Laminate being the only real "problem". But it's been done lots of times. Or do you mean on the planner?
We have a low window with 2 corners next to them in a galley kitchen. The apartment building is on a slant so the right corner will have a small sliver of space if we put a straight cabinet. How could we manage this? Maybe a seat storage that reaches up to the window sill and bring the cabinets to the wall with custom filler by the wall? Then we could add the pull-out extension to get full use of the cabinets.
That sounds pretty reasonable to me. bench seating is a great way to accommodate this!
We have a skinny gap, maybe 20cm width in total, between the blind corner and the fridge freezer. The designer turned it into a skinny, open unit that is ideal for shallow baking trays and chopping boards.
Just a suggestion that I have never heard anyone mention. Use the blind corner, attach the countertop to a popup set of shelves or have the countertop use a hinge to give access to something like a small deep freezer. Everyone, myself included, always thinks about accessing the corner cabinets from the front, why not from the top?
Do you have any actual ikea kitchens done with the 45 degree options? I can’t visualize this.
Is it possible to stack two sektion corner units on the countertop and make one tall unit with an appliance garage at the bottom?
for a corner unit with a lazy susan, the arc of the susan will only fill about 75% of the cabinet. Also they tend to be two layers. A drawer bank will give you 100% access to the cabinet and much denser (3-4 drawers for example). You could quite quickly get more effective storage by blocking off a corner evne though it might feel counter intuitive. For me a lazy susan or pullout is still convenient for appliances and less used items where the volume of a deep blind corner may be of benefit.
The plan for my kitchen is this. I have a peninsula separating my kitchen from an eating area. We have a blind cabinet with shelves and lots of crawling inside of it. My plan is to replace the corner with a regular cabinet that opens into the eating area. The non blind portion of the blind cabinet will be replaced a row of drawers. Easy access to all the space. Storage for the eating area. No more crawling into the cabinet.
No more crawling in cabinets is a definite win!
We decided on a new build. I told the builder no L shape kitchens and no barn doors. The plan we picked included an L shape. To go around that I had them push out the exterior wall to create a corner wall. This also added a little storage alcove in the garage. The house before had an L shape and the lazy Susan and cabinets drove me nuts. Too much dead space.
For the corner, with or without a pipe conduit in the corner, consider a less-deep bank of drawers on the 45°, and narrower width (eg 300mm/1').
I almost went with that, but came up with a different solution of partially obscuring 300mm of base cabinet (for sink) into the corner (so 'half a blind'). Currently have a traditional corner with a Susan which I think is inefficient overall.
That's another good idea. I may make another video of base corner options. As there are many more to explore!. Thanks for watching.
@@MTKDofficial Please link to it from this video if you make it
this was great, what about the cabinets above the corner? do people do open shelves or wrap around the corner somehow
I've done a video on wall corners too. But yes, corner open shelves are definitely possible and create a more open felling to the otherwise cluttered wall cabinets.
❤ this!
What are your thoughts on a stove /vent in front of a window? I'm not keen on putting it in the corner of a smallish kitchen for my remodel
Thanks. Generally I would avoid this situation at all costs. The window makes ventilation pretty hard. While you can open the window, it’s not forced out. Maybe a downdraft extractor could work, but that’s a while other can of beans.
Sorry, I am not into kitchen planing right now and therefore the video is a little bit long to watch it in total. But what I have seen: you mention the blind corner and just use cabinets next to it. What I wanted to add, because I think you have not mentioned this: Besides better access, the total usable space is the same or better than using corner solutions. In a German forum somebody actually calculated the area of corner pullouts, carousel / lazy sue (I believe is the term in english?) and standard drawers (which can be bigger when using a blind corner) and the space - as I said - was same or better with the standard drawers. Of course this may differ in some settings, but usually the blind corner is the best option.
Appreciate the comment in spite of not watching the whole video!!! And yes, the blind corner with proper pullout would probably be the best option. Im not concerned with "wasted space" as much as the usability of the option of blocking it off. But it has to be the right thing for the client and how they see themselves using the space!