First thing I thought...Plane just stalled and was out of control and we don't know why but it's seems ok now ...Yeah were just gonna go ahead and try to fly over the Atlantic ocean... Jesus
Thank you for covering flights like these where nobody gets hurt! To some they might not be "as exciting" but I think they are just as interesting or even more interesting! don't stop covering flights like this!
Agree. But stalling, rolling right and left was pretty exciting! Glad the pilots recovered, but I wonder that they didn't notice any control problems after losing elevator tips and access door! Must be the redundancy built into the controls. (The videos that sicken me are the loss of hydraulics at 30,000 feet, or whatever. A doomed aircraft with five to ten minutes to impact. That's sickening. Military aircraft, you have parachutes. Passenger jets maybe you get a free shot of Scotch and time for a prayer.)
Who would be able to recall to what switch was thrown or lever adjusted to put the 10 back to normal cruise attitude after those panic moments?. Mention DC-10 between a rock and hard-place, and my mind always flips to the 'Iowa corn field event' way back in the days. Geez?
Dude! OMG, I had the same reaction. But what's crazy is my comment is roughly identical to yours. Even the "whew" at the end! I typed my comment, then was just scrolling through them and I read yours. I almost fell out my chair, but I wasn't sitting. This means something. You should reply.
@@fdzaviation If they were half way over the ocean to keep going would be right but I would land it before to get it inspected first and also for the passengers to at least change their pants. The passengers would probably say no thanks and take another flight.
@@tjking1909 no, Air France happened because the co-pilot excessively pulled the nose up to avoid a storm. That plane didn’t stall until it had reached its maximum flying height. Pilots are correctly supposed to put the nose down, apply speed brakes and auto flaps when the plane is descending in a stall.
Ladies in gentlemen, fasten seatbelts due to an emergency with the airplane. We will attempt to land at the nearest airport. Plane stalls followed by a long dive. 5 minutes later: Hey guys, you still up for Miami?
In addition to the tragedies, these videos are depressing. 95% of the planes in these videos are written off, stored, or scrapped. Makes me tear up a bit.
I think you mean tear up. To me these videos are not only in a sense depressing but they are fascinating as well. Thankfully other than a few hundred pairs of pants that were full no one was killed in this
@You 2 It amazes me that pilots may have to go through manuals and checklists in order to deal with an emergency, instead of being able to use just the controls and the information available to them from the instruments, etc., which are in front of them in the cockpit.
Love that the ac reg is XA-DUH!!!! DUH!!! Glad they somewhat caught their mistake. Pilot's aren't always perfect.. Good outcome that could have further harmed the DC-10's record
I worked at the Hub at KDAY for Emery from Dec 2000 to April 2002 and I remember that tail number. I also remember loading belly freight (mostly US Mail bags) into the aft cargo hold while on "Outbound Crew". I worked in "Mod 6", & sometimes would drive a belt loader while working Outbound. It was a great place to work with some really good people.
Excellent video and analysis. Something about this one is more chilling...the fact the engineers designed a control mode which pitches up a plane with absolutely no feedback or maximum limit is incredible.
Love the DC-10, flew on American, United and Northwest. Once flew a fully loaded United DC-10 ( not a seat left) from Chicago to Detroit. We were heavy but that DC-10 rocketed into the sky like no one was on the plane! Engines were screaming. I had American 191 on my mind when we were hauling ass down the runway. Hoping an engine wouldn't fail. I remember we were delayed because United Mechanic's came aboard and went into the cockpit for about 25 minutes to fix something? Must have been ex military pilots because we did some fast sweeping steep bank turns that put you into your seat good coming down from cruise into Detroit. Best short flight i ever had!!
@@sparkyobrian6417 As a person who knows next to nothing about flying or aircraft, I love reading stuff like this. It's fascinating to me that a plane can withstand that many years of stresses. I'm guessing there are structural upgrades through the years?? Or maybe not?
@@haysfordays It's all about maintenance basically. You still have DC-4s and DC-6s that are flying despite they were built during or right after the war.
It ought to be preserved but won't be. I wonder if it has all the features (floor-mounted pressure-balancing vents, hydraulic-reservoirs, etc.) that were missing from the T.H.Y. plane that crashed near Paris in 1974, killing hundreds.
Thank you Kuya Allec for this informative video. Your attention to detail Kuya is appreciated. So nice to see aircraft like this DC-10 have long flight careers. In storage 2019.
@@Awilgu Don? Are you feeling okay? No. I am washed and protected by the Blood of YESHUA! I reject your curse and may the stone you attempted to roll over me roll back on you and crush you. Are you feeling okay?
Hit the button because I saw that awesome TriStar and the Aeromexico livery. Such a blast from the past. Remember going to Acapulco and PVR with my parents in that plane during the 70’s. Awesome to see this end well
@@Capecodham No Burt, i was too busy wrapping your gift and baking you cookies. No, i am nor that important. But I am also not being snide about a commonly used abbreviation.
@@sarahalbers5555 Commonly? Out of 40 comments where "video" was used in this video two used the term, "vid." Thus only two out of 40 think they are better than the rest. Commonly?
Wow! What a tank. That jet had a long, long life even after the crisis. Wondering how many hours the flight crew had accumulated on this type because they weren’t totally familiar with its systems. Nonetheless, everyone lived! Thanks Allec, another Aviation story well done and very well articulated, as usual.😊
When the Aircraft entered a nose dive. I thought the aircraft will surely crash.But the pilots collectively showed composure and managed somehow.However fantastic research. Keep it up Allec
I noticed the narration is longer in these newer videos than the older ones. Not sure if that's because of the incidents being recreated or not. But I do find the wordier ones a little harder to understand.
Amazingly durable aircraft - despite the DC-10s other issues. As tough as my classic Benz with 212k miles @ 20 y/o & eager to go more... SO glad all were ok I bet lots of prayers by 300 Souls as they felt the stall...
Whenever I watch a video like this, I find that I'm gripping the armrests of my seat and almost holding my breath. So glad nothing happened to the passengers and crew!
I know. I half expected the video to end with "In August 2019, the plane was purchased at auction by a guy named Harold," and the signage is just hatch marks over the prior owner's logo, replaced with Sharpie scribbling reading "Harold's plane".
I know I'm 40 years late, but was there no way to provide an interlock preventing the pilots from configuring that mode? Always happy when I see a normal touchdown!
Too bad?? Yeah, too bad they're not KILLING anyone, anymore😆!! Why do you think McDonell-Douglas discontinued that, model?? Wow, another problem with vibrations, on a DC--10's, number 3, engine!! That's a pattern, obviously!!
DOUGLAS AIRFRAMES HAD NO EXPIRATION DATE. MD-8x SURPASSED THE LIMITS OF CYCLES DURING TEST. THEY QUIT TESTING IT. THEY COULDNT DAMAGE THE AIRFRAME. THEY DID GOOD THINGS APPART FROM THEIR FAILURES.
That DC-10 has had quite a life! Probably has a couple thousand pounds of paint on it! (just kidding) It's testimony to the DC-10's ruggedness and design that it was able to fly in 4 decades and might still have some utility left in it. The air transport industry certainly got everything they could possibly expect out of that magnificent machine!
Someone else just posted here that most of those cargo changes were the same owners just doing corporate rebranding as the business grew and they merged with others, not real "transfers."
@@MikeBrown-ex9nh Nope, some airframes cant pass a certain amunt of cycles without cray expensive work. This doesnt happen with Douglas designs. 20 year old 747, 330 etc most be available and "more economical" to mantain. Somehow, Dougls is still going and the others scraped. See the MD-11 66 hour around the globe vid Ufthansa Cargo. You will wonder WHY
When I saw 318 Kts. for Climbing speed there came an immediate "Master Caution light" in my brain (too much power would be required for climbing). Other factors that you pointed to regarding the relationship between Climb Speed, Vertical Speed, Power & Angle of Attack sure would have been taken in mind by the pilots. Even when they have received the proper training, All these DC-10 Aeroméxico pilots came Directly from Non-Automated equipment such as DC-8´s and DC-9´s, so they "Overconfidence/Misoperated" the automated systems. In Discharge of Aeroméxico´s DC-10 pilots and Maintenance Technicians, I Must Point Out that in more than 15 years of operations in the "Dark Days" of de DC-10, None of Them were Involved in An Accident or Written Off in the History of Aeroméxico. Great follow-up of the aircraft Allec Joshua (Accompanied with Astonishing Photos). XA- DUH (named "Castillo de" Castle of Chapultepec), was the second DC-10 delivered to Aeroméxico in 1974. The First was XA-DUG (named "Ciudad de México" City of México). I Appreciate Allec Joshua, In Deep. Merry Christmas for You and Your Beloved Ones from México City .
To say that plane "got around" would be a gross understatement. I imagine a lot of passengers would be shocked to learn the history of the plane they are relying on to get them to their destination safely.
Wow, so XA-DUH was still working hard in the sky just before the Covid pandemic of 2020! What a workhorse. I am now gonna google for the 10 oldest aircrafts still in service!
Research the fate of United Flt 409 which crashed into Medicine Bow Peak in Wyoming in the late 50's or early 60's. It was a DC4 and took a short cut south of the MDB VOR on it's way from Denver to Salt Lake City. The shortcut caused them to slam into the very top of the peak in cloud cover. In fact, people were found OVER the other side as well as on the impact side. The National Guard later had to use Howitzers to blast off wreckage to keep scavengers from getting into trouble themselves. In 1977 I was hiking with my Dad up there and found a spoon (which I still have) belonging to the flight and to this day there is still wiring and small bits that are still in the rubble.
You know, I one time got kicked out of a movie theater for making snide comments about things that the pilots were doing on screen that I knew that were wrong. But NOW seeing that real pilots are doing the same things, blows my mind.
The DC-10 was the 737Max of the 1970's. It was put into production in a rush to match Boeing and beat Lockheed, whose far superior plane sadly failed to sell well. Despite the Paris crash that killed so many caused by a cargo door blowing out, no one from Douglas was ever sent to prison. The cargo door had failed in testing and had nearly brought down an AA flight from Detroit. Sadly Boeing will also prove that corporations can kill with impunity.
The DC-10 was not put into production to match Boeing. It was created pursuant to a set of specifications created by Frank Koch, chief engineer of AA. They wanted something larger than the 707 and 727 but smaller than the 747. It had to have three engines in order to travel over water more than 60 minutes from land (this was before ETOPS or ETOWS engines). Boeing bowed out of the competition as it was ramping up 747 production. Lockheed was by far the better plane and used modern technology. It also was 25% more expensive per unit due to the redundant safety features the DC-10 lacked. The DC-10 was a redesigned DC-8. MD corporate culture at Boeing pulled the same crap with the 737-Max, trying to gussy up an older design rather than redesigning from the ground up.
The 737 Max still pales in comparison to Airbuses problems at the 737 Max could even with the design flaw still be flown safely, with Airbus the pilots are at the mercy of the Flight Control System, that cannot be overrode. Airbuses Flight Control System is almost halfway as reliable as Teslas Autopilot.
@@user-tq1tf6hh9w The DC-10 was not a redesigned 8. There was no similarity whatsoever, except for both being extremely good airplanes. The last 50 years proved that.
Pilots must be top notch to understand such complicated details of operations. But even a average good piolet must know his plane and how to monitor it's operation under all conditions and how to quickly respond to events and not blow things off.
Sounds like that DC 10 had a long and distigushed career. And that was pretty ballsy of the flight crew, deciding to push on to Miami, not wanting to waste 140,000 pounds of fuel, which is understandable. Glad to see it all worked out, and nothing more that some scary moments.
How many on board? 250 something? Probably would've said " nah, save the fuel....we're good!" You're back in the cheap seats saying "dump that shit and get my ass on the ground!"
there exist conceivable situations where corporate would go easier on pilots for _actually crashing_ than for dumping tons of fuel or fouling up schedules...that is, as long as there wasn't obvious pilot error or _too_ much loss of life.
It cracks me up that you post a video of an incident where there was no crash, no deaths....and 215 people give it a "thumbs down". Bloodthirsty followers you have here! Keep up the great videos!
Ya, but then they foolishly decide to cross the Atlantic w/o knowing what had just happened...and for what, to save some fuel? Bad call. They got lucky!
Also my husband and I flew back east from LA to Washington DC on a DC10 in the mid 70's. Considering all the flaws with the DC10s I feel lucky to have made it home alive
Gotta be a good pilot to recover from a stall. that pilot deserves a medal of honor for getting that plane safely on the ground. i think i would have landed it in midrid though.
A GOOD PILOT would not have had a stall to begin with, if he was paying attention to his instruments, and had a FEEL for what was happening with the aircraft.
Pretty much consistent how our South neighbor folks treat their cars and horses...very macho attitude and if something it only partially broken and it still works, that must mean it wasn't that necessary anyways. Push it till it till it really breaks and get another one.
Breaking news reporter: “An Aeromexico DC-10 stalled, but recovered without injuries to anyone!” Passengers: That’s bulls***, DC-10’s usually kill people at this rate! Note: This incident happened 6 months after AA Flight 191.
"We just stalled at high attitude and are making an emergency decent...actually, we seem all good now so we will fly another 5 hours, forget about it"
Over an ocean too. SMH
More like ten hours!!
First thing I thought...Plane just stalled and was out of control and we don't know why but it's seems ok now ...Yeah were just gonna go ahead and try to fly over the Atlantic ocean... Jesus
@@Halfdead211 That's why they are paid so much. To do careful evaluation and make command decisions !
@@F_Tim1961 Yep, and instead they did little evaluation and made a stupid decision...despite the fact that all ended well.
Thank you for covering flights like these where nobody gets hurt! To some they might not be "as exciting" but I think they are just as interesting or even more interesting! don't stop covering flights like this!
Well if nothing catastrophic happens, it's not that interesting. That's just reality. Most ppl don't want to see something that didn't happen.
Agree. But stalling, rolling right and left was pretty exciting! Glad the pilots recovered, but I wonder that they didn't notice any control problems after losing elevator tips and access door! Must be the redundancy built into the controls. (The videos that sicken me are the loss of hydraulics at 30,000 feet, or whatever. A doomed aircraft with five to ten minutes to impact. That's sickening. Military aircraft, you have parachutes. Passenger jets maybe you get a free shot of Scotch and time for a prayer.)
@@davesmith5656 And maybe a quickie from that cute new stewardess 😋
I like these. I like happy endings every so often.
Russell Scott exactly.
Quite the extensive history on that plane. Its nice to see it didn't end on November 11, 1979.
Aircraft registration XA-"DUH" seems a bit ironic.
I had the same thought :)
😂😂😂 And rather appropriate.
@Johnson Fallone how well is it working?
Thought this plane was going down....Instead got a quick lesson on the correct way to fly a dc-10. Whew...
Who would be able to recall to what switch was thrown or lever adjusted to put the 10 back to normal cruise attitude after those panic moments?. Mention DC-10 between a rock and hard-place, and my mind always flips to the 'Iowa corn field event' way back in the days. Geez?
Dude! OMG, I had the same reaction. But what's crazy is my comment is roughly identical to yours. Even the "whew" at the end!
I typed my comment, then was just scrolling through them and I read yours. I almost fell out my chair, but I wasn't sitting.
This means something. You should reply.
@@twoZJs GDR, you are speaking of United 232.
Just think about being on a plane that suddenly drops from the sky, but the pilots still decide to cross the Atlantic
As I just replied to someone else, I totally agree!
You won't need no in-flight entertainment, you'll be thrilled for the rest of the trip anyways.
Nope, I don't have the balls to do that.
@@fdzaviation If they were half way over the ocean to keep going would be right but I would land it before to get it inspected first and also for the passengers to at least change their pants. The passengers would probably say no thanks and take another flight.
Approximately ten more hours in the air (distance from Madrid to Miami is over 5K miles). White knuckles the whole time?
That AeroMexico livery is awesome I wish they'd bring it back.
It would also be nice if they had better looking aircrafts than the ones they currently have.
Seems like a high risk poor decision to fly transatlantic with an aircraft that just had a major incident and as it turns it significant damage
thats a sensible observation tho it seemed to continue its journey without any more hiccups .
Yeah, pardon my language but fuck that. Dump the fuel and set it down.
My thoughts exactly. But hey, it's a DC-10? What could go wrong? ;)
DC 10 was the biggest airplane and now they are only cargo planes
@@jasonyerian4719 I'm a bit confused, what is the point of the observation?
As soon as I saw, “the pilots pull the nose up”, I knew shit was gonna get bad. But then, it just didn’t hit the ground. Great video Allec!
Hummmm, sounds like Air France debacle.
TJ King Exactly what I was thinking
I was thinking it was going to be bad because this was a flight in the 70's using a DC-10.
@@tjking1909 no, Air France happened because the co-pilot excessively pulled the nose up to avoid a storm. That plane didn’t stall until it had reached its maximum flying height. Pilots are correctly supposed to put the nose down, apply speed brakes and auto flaps when the plane is descending in a stall.
@@dx1450
Yeah because there was 1 crash because of a DC 10.
Ladies in gentlemen, fasten seatbelts due to an emergency with the airplane. We will attempt to land at the nearest airport.
Plane stalls followed by a long dive.
5 minutes later: Hey guys, you still up for Miami?
I was like "That sucks. They crashed in the ocean."
Next thing I see is it landing.
Whew!
“Everyone survives with no injuries.” Greatest words ever! That plane sure flew for a lot of airlines.
In addition to the tragedies, these videos are depressing. 95% of the planes in these videos are written off, stored, or scrapped. Makes me tear up a bit.
I think you mean tear up. To me these videos are not only in a sense depressing but they are fascinating as well. Thankfully other than a few hundred pairs of pants that were full no one was killed in this
@@annetteslife thank you!
You 2 Flying has always been by far the safest way to travel. Your life is much more, “at stake,” when you’re driving to the airport.
@You 2 It amazes me that pilots may have to go through manuals and checklists in order to deal with an emergency, instead of being able to use just the controls and the information available to them from the instruments, etc., which are in front of them in the cockpit.
Who cares about the planes? Human lives are important, planes are just machines.....
When I saw the pilots pushed the nose down I knew it was going to be one of the few videos like this where the plane is not pancaked into the ground.
Thanks Allec, I also like how you give information on what happened to the aircraft after.
Love that the ac reg is XA-DUH!!!! DUH!!! Glad they somewhat caught their mistake. Pilot's aren't always perfect.. Good outcome that could have further harmed the DC-10's record
I worked at the Hub at KDAY for Emery from Dec 2000 to April 2002 and I remember that tail number. I also remember loading belly freight (mostly US Mail bags) into the aft cargo hold while on "Outbound Crew". I worked in "Mod 6", & sometimes would drive a belt loader while working Outbound. It was a great place to work with some really good people.
Excellent video and analysis. Something about this one is more chilling...the fact the engineers designed a control mode which pitches up a plane with absolutely no feedback or maximum limit is incredible.
I bet the storage planes have great stories to tell each other!
Love the DC-10, flew on American, United and Northwest. Once flew a fully loaded United DC-10 ( not a seat left) from Chicago to Detroit. We were heavy but that DC-10 rocketed into the sky like no one was on the plane! Engines were screaming. I had American 191 on my mind when we were hauling ass down the runway. Hoping an engine wouldn't fail. I remember we were delayed because United Mechanic's came aboard and went into the cockpit for about 25 minutes to fix something? Must have been ex military pilots because we did some fast sweeping steep bank turns that put you into your seat good coming down from cruise into Detroit. Best short flight i ever had!!
Wow I would love to know how many cycles or hours of flight that plane has. A 45 year old DC-10 that never crashed.
@@sparkyobrian6417 As a person who knows next to nothing about flying or aircraft, I love reading stuff like this. It's fascinating to me that a plane can withstand that many years of stresses. I'm guessing there are structural upgrades through the years?? Or maybe not?
@@haysfordays It's all about maintenance basically. You still have DC-4s and DC-6s that are flying despite they were built during or right after the war.
Federal Express has a few DC-10s pushing 50, still working.
@@julosx So the guts are the same. Wow. Quite a testament to the engineering all-around. Thanks.
It ought to be preserved but won't be. I wonder if it has all the features (floor-mounted pressure-balancing vents, hydraulic-reservoirs, etc.) that were missing from the T.H.Y. plane that crashed near Paris in 1974, killing hundreds.
Thank you Kuya Allec for this informative video. Your attention to detail Kuya is appreciated. So nice to see aircraft like this DC-10 have long flight careers. In storage 2019.
Wtf is Kuya? Damn you to hell
@@Awilgu Don? Are you feeling okay? No. I am washed and protected by the Blood of YESHUA! I reject your curse and may the stone you attempted to roll over me roll back on you and crush you.
Are you feeling okay?
Hit the button because I saw that awesome TriStar and the Aeromexico livery. Such a blast from the past. Remember going to Acapulco and PVR with my parents in that plane during the 70’s. Awesome to see this end well
Cheers to everyone! Thanks for yet another great vid! These keep getting better all the time!
What did you do with the time you saved not typing eo?
@@Capecodham happy holidays Burt. Just in case, it's an abbreviation commonly used, for video.
@@sarahalbers5555 You use the abbreviation because you are so important you don't have the time to type eo, Sar.
@@Capecodham No Burt, i was too busy wrapping your gift and baking you cookies. No, i am nor that important. But I am also not being snide about a commonly used abbreviation.
@@sarahalbers5555 Commonly? Out of 40 comments where "video" was used in this video two used the term, "vid." Thus only two out of 40 think they are better than the rest. Commonly?
Wow! What a tank. That jet had a long, long life even after the crisis. Wondering how many hours the flight crew had accumulated on this type because they weren’t totally familiar with its systems.
Nonetheless, everyone lived! Thanks Allec, another Aviation story well done and very well articulated, as usual.😊
I must've work and rode jumpseat on this aircraft while I was with Emery. Great history and she survived to storage.
When the Aircraft entered a nose dive. I thought the aircraft will surely crash.But the pilots collectively showed composure and managed somehow.However fantastic research.
Keep it up Allec
The research you put into these is outstanding. Great job and much appreciated.
I noticed the narration is longer in these newer videos than the older ones. Not sure if that's because of the incidents being recreated or not. But I do find the wordier ones a little harder to understand.
It is such a miracle that no on board died, it looked like that was going to hit the ground at 400-500 knots! Great job by the flight crew!
Amazingly durable aircraft - despite the DC-10s other issues.
As tough as my classic Benz with 212k miles @ 20 y/o & eager to go more...
SO glad all were ok I bet lots of prayers by 300 Souls as they felt the stall...
Great job. Good research, and an excellent explanation of a complex issue.
Whenever I watch a video like this, I find that I'm gripping the armrests of my seat and almost holding my breath. So glad nothing happened to the passengers and crew!
Excellent aircraft history at the end. Well done!
What an amazing aircraft this one is- to still be flying nearly 40 years after this 'mishap' is quite remarkable.
Plane: **stalls**
Pilot: **pulls the nose up**
Me: "uh oh..."
Also Pilot: **pushes nose down to recover from stall**
*_"That happened in the 1970s"_*
You wouldn't think this could be said on videos about air crashes and incidents, but...
*I get that reference*
I'm glad the plane made it safely to Miami. I was a nervous wreck just watching and hoping they would. I love a good ending.
Thanks for the Explanations of How & Why. They’re Vital to Education & Understanding!
11:18 evidently patete means “hot potato” in Spanish. Nobody kept this plane for long!
That is not entirely True. Lufthansa Cargo still operates eleven MD 11-F
think he meant this exact aircraft, not the DC-10 fleet in general : )
I know. I half expected the video to end with "In August 2019, the plane was purchased at auction by a guy named Harold," and the signage is just hatch marks over the prior owner's logo, replaced with Sharpie scribbling reading "Harold's plane".
Well they probably discovered Allec's video, and thought Get Rid
If I remember right, "The Three Stooges" is translated as "Los tres patetas" in Spanish.
I know I'm 40 years late, but was there no way to provide an interlock preventing the pilots from configuring that mode?
Always happy when I see a normal touchdown!
Was not expecting that, that was the best livery aEROMEXICO HAD
This DC10 has a long History Built in 1974 and still flying
45 Years in Service
Very Old
Star 737 Instead of saying ancient, you should say antique.
Instead of saying hotel, you should say trivago.
In this depressed economy, It will be scrapped. No demand to justify storage costs.
The DC-10's were great workhorses, just like the 747 still is ! Too bad they are no longer being built .
Mc Douglas made bankrupt because of DC 10..
If the 747 was the same level of safety as the 737,boeing surely made bankrupt too
Too bad?? Yeah, too bad they're not KILLING anyone, anymore😆!! Why do you think McDonell-Douglas discontinued that, model?? Wow, another problem with vibrations, on a DC--10's, number 3, engine!! That's a pattern, obviously!!
@@rogerrendzak8055 in fact it's mostly part of time human error, as the cargo door who won't close correctly
The motors wich wasn't fix correctly ect
Very accurate video.....on take off you can catch a quick glace of Rhein-Main Air Base which was opposite the Frankfurt International Airport.
Excellent.. a non-fatal incidence.. something to learn from with no deaths
The correct name of the Captain is Rafael Breton Paniagua.
always a relief when there is a happy ending.
That old girl gave good service.
Alec I don't know where you find pictures for each owner of the aircraft but it is amazing -
All you need is the aircraft's registration :)
I enjoyed watching the plane's livery metamorphosis through the years. That progression of pictures is just captivating all on its own!
1974 to late 2010' s this infamous crash aircraft still airworthy..mean while the first A380 has been retired..😅
Simple soul. Little things please little minds.
DOUGLAS AIRFRAMES HAD NO EXPIRATION DATE. MD-8x SURPASSED THE LIMITS OF CYCLES DURING TEST. THEY QUIT TESTING IT. THEY COULDNT DAMAGE THE AIRFRAME. THEY DID GOOD THINGS APPART FROM THEIR FAILURES.
The a380 is a very good plane, it just doesn't suit the market.
Good luck trying to make the A380 into a freighter without finished into an “American 587 2,0” chapter, bus boi.
OMG! That takeoff engine roar is AMAZING! AWESOME! 😍❤️✈️
Great video and great report. Nice to see the pilots were so good at their job.
This DC-10 was passed around like a party joint.
That could of gone sideways quickly.
Could *have*. Just a pet peeve - I think people often write 'of' as we shorten it so often to could've.
That DC-10 has had quite a life! Probably has a couple thousand pounds of paint on it! (just kidding) It's testimony to the DC-10's ruggedness and design that it was able to fly in 4 decades and might still have some utility left in it. The air transport industry certainly got everything they could possibly expect out of that magnificent machine!
Someone else just posted here that most of those cargo changes were the same owners just doing corporate rebranding as the business grew and they merged with others, not real "transfers."
Good morning Allec from Frankfurt am Main, excellent video 👏👏 Glad to see everyone survived ❤
It's amazing how long these planes last.
If you spent that much money maintaining your car, it would last forever.
@@MikeBrown-ex9nh Nope, some airframes cant pass a certain amunt of cycles without cray expensive work. This doesnt happen with Douglas designs. 20 year old 747, 330 etc most be available and "more economical" to mantain. Somehow, Dougls is still going and the others scraped. See the MD-11 66 hour around the globe vid Ufthansa Cargo. You will wonder WHY
It would have been interesting to hear what happened to the pilots
They got a raise! 👍
... With all the repainting jobs, I'm surprised it could get off the ground.
Funny funny
After the last repainting the cargo capacity was limited to 4 rolls of toilet paper and 6 feather pillows!
When I saw 318 Kts. for Climbing speed there came an immediate "Master Caution light" in my brain (too much power would be required for climbing). Other factors that you pointed to regarding the relationship between Climb Speed, Vertical Speed, Power & Angle of Attack sure would have been taken in mind by the pilots.
Even when they have received the proper training, All these DC-10 Aeroméxico pilots came Directly from Non-Automated equipment such as DC-8´s and DC-9´s, so they "Overconfidence/Misoperated" the automated systems.
In Discharge of Aeroméxico´s DC-10 pilots and Maintenance Technicians, I Must Point Out that in more than 15 years of operations in the "Dark Days" of de DC-10, None of Them were Involved in An Accident or Written Off in the History of Aeroméxico.
Great follow-up of the aircraft Allec Joshua (Accompanied with Astonishing Photos). XA- DUH (named "Castillo de" Castle of Chapultepec), was the second DC-10 delivered to Aeroméxico in 1974. The First was XA-DUG (named "Ciudad de México" City of México).
I Appreciate Allec Joshua, In Deep.
Merry Christmas for You and Your Beloved Ones from México City .
You always do a good job on these videos
Love these videos and have watched a lot. This is one that I really couldn’t understand the lingo as I am not a pilot or have any knowledge of flying.
Excellent video Allec👍✈️
That aircraft sure had a checkered life.
King Allec Joshua Ibay does it again with a flawless vid. All hail king allec!!
I believe that I once flew on that very same jet (Castillo de Chapultepec), many years ago.
To say that plane "got around" would be a gross understatement. I imagine a lot of passengers would be shocked to learn the history of the plane they are relying on to get them to their destination safely.
Cool to know the entire history of these planes👍👍
immediately after the incident, per order of the captain, all the passengers received for free a beef taco and a shot of tequila
Somebody’s racist eh?
"Ok, we're stalling. let's call ATC and say it's and emergancy descent."
yeah, thats who I'm calling right off the bat.
Wow, so XA-DUH was still working hard in the sky just before the Covid pandemic of 2020! What a workhorse. I am now gonna google for the 10 oldest aircrafts still in service!
Research the fate of United Flt 409 which crashed into Medicine Bow Peak in Wyoming in the late 50's or early 60's. It was a DC4 and took a short cut south of the MDB VOR on it's way from Denver to Salt Lake City. The shortcut caused them to slam into the very top of the peak in cloud cover. In fact, people were found OVER the other side as well as on the impact side. The National Guard later had to use Howitzers to blast off wreckage to keep scavengers from getting into trouble themselves. In 1977 I was hiking with my Dad up there and found a spoon (which I still have) belonging to the flight and to this day there is still wiring and small bits that are still in the rubble.
You know, I one time got kicked out of a movie theater for making snide comments about things that the pilots were doing on screen that I knew that were wrong. But NOW seeing that real pilots are doing the same things, blows my mind.
That's one hell of a chance to take, experiencing mechanical issues then deciding to head across the Atlantic anyway.
I'm not litigiously oriented, but in this case I would've sued AeroMexico for endangering my life, if I'd been a passenger on this flight.
[sad music] [showing that the aircraft went on to fly for many years after the incident]
The DC-10 was the 737Max of the 1970's. It was put into production in a rush to match Boeing and beat Lockheed, whose far superior plane sadly failed to sell well. Despite the Paris crash that killed so many caused by a cargo door blowing out, no one from Douglas was ever sent to prison. The cargo door had failed in testing and had nearly brought down an AA flight from Detroit. Sadly Boeing will also prove that corporations can kill with impunity.
The DC-10 was not put into production to match Boeing. It was created pursuant to a set of specifications created by Frank Koch, chief engineer of AA. They wanted something larger than the 707 and 727 but smaller than the 747. It had to have three engines in order to travel over water more than 60 minutes from land (this was before ETOPS or ETOWS engines). Boeing bowed out of the competition as it was ramping up 747 production. Lockheed was by far the better plane and used modern technology. It also was 25% more expensive per unit due to the redundant safety features the DC-10 lacked. The DC-10 was a redesigned DC-8. MD corporate culture at Boeing pulled the same crap with the 737-Max, trying to gussy up an older design rather than redesigning from the ground up.
The 737 Max still pales in comparison to Airbuses problems at the 737 Max could even with the design flaw still be flown safely, with Airbus the pilots are at the mercy of the Flight Control System, that cannot be overrode. Airbuses Flight Control System is almost halfway as reliable as Teslas Autopilot.
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The DC-10 was not a redesigned 8.
There was no similarity whatsoever, except for both being extremely good airplanes.
The last 50 years proved that.
Something going wrong with a DC-10 in 1979, and not crashing? Boy, did they beat the odds!
except nothing went wrong. pilots were temporarily not flying
Pilots must be top notch to understand such complicated details of operations. But even a average good piolet must know his plane and how to monitor it's operation under all conditions and how to quickly respond to events and not blow things off.
6:33 “XA-DUH”
0:15 the engine roar are perfect!
TF39
Sounds like that DC 10 had a long and distigushed career. And that was pretty ballsy of the flight crew, deciding to push on to Miami, not wanting to waste 140,000 pounds of fuel, which is understandable. Glad to see it all worked out, and nothing more that some scary moments.
How many on board? 250 something? Probably would've said " nah, save the fuel....we're good!" You're back in the cheap seats saying "dump that shit and get my ass on the ground!"
there exist conceivable situations where corporate would go easier on pilots for _actually crashing_ than for dumping tons of fuel or fouling up schedules...that is, as long as there wasn't obvious pilot error or _too_ much loss of life.
It cracks me up that you post a video of an incident where there was no crash, no deaths....and 215 people give it a "thumbs down". Bloodthirsty followers you have here! Keep up the great videos!
Love the intro with the aircraft taking off.
I am addicted to your videos!!!!
I love these videos. Nice work Allec.
So basically... "pilots nearly murder plane but she lives on to have a long and happy life..."
Good lord, I was seriously annoyed with the crew lol
“Hey cap, why is it getting so quiet in here? !stall warning! Oh I see.” 😅
It's very hard to like any tragedy, but I really do enjoy all of your content, it's all in the learning experience after the crash._. Thanx a lot 😉
the fact that they still got to miami is pretty boss
sitting in storage after a long flying career.. It had a good life :)
Pilots saved a rapidly deteriorating situation by the look of it
Ya, but then they foolishly decide to cross the Atlantic w/o knowing what had just happened...and for what, to save some fuel? Bad call. They got lucky!
Also my husband and I flew back east from LA to Washington DC on a DC10 in the mid 70's. Considering all the flaws with the DC10s I feel lucky to have made it home alive
Gotta be a good pilot to recover from a stall. that pilot deserves a medal of honor for getting that plane safely on the ground. i think i would have landed it in midrid though.
A GOOD PILOT would not have had a stall to begin with, if he was paying attention to his instruments, and had a FEEL for what was happening with the aircraft.
@bwahahaha ! well i guess it depends how you look at it, i could have never been a pilot.
Who else likes the nighttime flying parts? And this video came with a happy ending 😊
Not a big fan of night flight personally...but sometimes ya gotta...
Mother Goose I’m not a fan of flying at night but, I really like seeing it in the videos 😊
I have always liked that old Aeromexico livery.
Back to school for these guys.
Pretty much consistent how our South neighbor folks treat their cars and horses...very macho attitude and if something it only partially broken and it still works, that must mean it wasn't that necessary anyways. Push it till it till it really breaks and get another one.
The 737 is the work horse now.
The aircraft was then sold to (company name) in 2083 and flies daily.
Breaking news reporter: “An Aeromexico DC-10 stalled, but recovered without injuries to anyone!”
Passengers: That’s bulls***, DC-10’s usually kill people at this rate!
Note: This incident happened 6 months after AA Flight 191.