It's only in this video that I put two and two together as to why steam trains look the way they do. I'd never realised that it was basically all boiler.
Yeah, you have maybe 1/5th to as little as 1/10th firebox at the back end, often pretty much all withing the cab. and then a large boiler with flue pipes travelling through to the smoke box at the front.
It's very funny to me how when you start hammer forming the strip, the inertia of the strip sticking out into air is enough to resist the force of the hammer and create an opposite bend to nearly maintain the same angle. Makes total sense, but it's funny to see without having thought about it already
That's a result of the material shifting under the hammer. The material wants to keep its sides the same length, and the easiest way to do that is to bend outward according to the inward bend, making that S shape. This is also why a hammer formed or rolled piece will not have square ends: because the material has shifted to try and stay in place relative to where it was, the inside surface will reach out past the outside surface.
That is a prime demonstration of one of the things that Newton said was “an object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.”. While I am not saying that Quinn is unbalanced, she did provide a force and the long end of the bar did what it wants to do, stay at rest. In fact, that is one of the best examples of that concept that I have seen in quite a while.
I have a pretty good idea why there are these Y pieces. It´s actually im concept something you see in a lot of constructions, not just metal, but clothing too. And it´s very common in areas where three or more joints meet each other. It offsets the seams from each other and redirects the forces. A point in which multiple seams/joints meet and that is repeatedly put under strain is a very weak point prone to rupture. The geometry of it just encurages material failure. Just leaving the sides of the throat plate would still leave the stress in one line and only marginally increase resilience. What you want to do, and what these small pieces do, is to offset the forces paralel to each other, disrupting them from all going into a single area. A good way to describe it is that these joints work like a lense for the forces, focussing them into a very small area.
It's really coming together now! I watched to the VERY end this week, watching all your Patrons scroll by. I wish I had the funds to join, but I just don't. So thanks so much to those of you who do. Quinn deserves all the support we can give.
It seems to me that a good idea would be to combine the rivet ring and "Y" pieces by making the rivet ring longer and splitting the ends and bending them out to conform to the throat sheet.
I had exactly the same thought. The only reasons I can see for that not being better is that it might be very fiddly to get the split end to fit properly, as it does have to conform to two other pieces, and the space is very tight, so either you would have to do it with some weird clamping or you would have to take apart and put together the whole thing repeatedly. Even more than you have to anyways, that is.
@@hjalar That would perhaps make it easier, but to make it fit into that horrible little corner it still has to fit closely with two other parts, with not enough space to swing a hammer. Screwing and unscrewing all those tiny screws just to check small changes in the fit over and over would drive me nuts.
As stressful as getting these builds within spec seems to be (it would be for me at least!), this is a very zen channel. Super relaxing. I always look forward to the next build video. :)
Alfred Hitchcock would be proud of the anxiety and drama that “ominous foreshadowing” induces in the audience 😂 Excellent progress. It’s looking like a thing!
Quinn, you could always use copper romex house wiring pieces in 14,12,10 AWG to fill your small cracks and you may be able to put them through the roller to "square" them. That would help the solder fill the spaces better. Good work as always.
Great job as always, Quinn! And who among us has not messed up, paused and then made it work? I admire your honesty as much as your skill in machining. Nice work!! Definitely looking forward to seeing this project progress.
Great video, Quinn! I especially appreciate you showing the setups and thought process for the parts you are making. Just building the boiler is a lot of work. Taking the time to document the process and add comments is a remarkable contribution to the hobby. Thanks for sharing this with us!
It's amazing how much more of a sense of the overall scale has become apparent with those two pieces joined up. When you started this build, I wasn't sure I'd be interested in all of these early steps, but I couldn't have been more wrong. This is fascinating stuff! Already can't wait for the next installment! :-)
Thanks Quinn New to your channel most satisfying discovery ever.Proof... Keep an old 75yrs " Boar" Learning Dreaming Entertain while discovering skilful techniques throughout your tutorials Best way to stay mentally physically fit no matter what
Very nice work, Quinn! Your boiler is looking really fantastic. These last several locomotive boiler videos have gladdened me with how satisfyingly ductile annealed copper is. I really appreciate your workpiece setups - always very thoughtful.
When you drill and tap through holes in layered material you usually cause the second layer to push away slightly so the threads don't match. The first layer is usually a clearance hole to avoid this. I wonder if this happened here or maybe since the thread size is so small it didn't occur. Thanks for the great content! I hope you are enjoying your new home and shop.
Hi Quinn, that was a very difficult milestone to achieve, having done so I am sure you are somewhat relieved. Positive waves all the way, of course you will not have any leaks. It really is starting to come together now Quinn, onward and upward, stay safe and enjoy your success.
Wow, that is such intricate work. I didn’t know that you could not continually fill with silver solder. Sure is coming along nicely. Thanks for the video.
You did a great job with those throat sheet corner gaps, Quinn! Those gave me quite a time too. I used copper wire to fill in some pretty big gaps in that area. But as you did, I eventually got there. Well done! Enjoying watching your boiler build. It's coming along beautifully!
Quinn typically the bottom blowdown is not at the very bottom. However there are hand holes that allow removal of sludge and calcium build up. I’m a retired Stationary Engineer. I started as a Steam Firemen operating and maintaining very large Fire tube boilers 100,000 lb/hr superheated steam used to drive boiler feedwater and condensate turbine pumps and water chillers. Really enjoying your boiler build videos and machinist projects.
BTW: @27:44 You can also use copper desoldering braid as a very good filler material like you did with the copper filler rod. The major pluses are that it's extremely malleable and covers a lot of area easily so you use less solder. It also comes in many different sizes and is pretty inexpensive too :)
Blondihacks, you're an inspiration and I get to vicariously live through your build! You should have forced that round former in there to flatten the ears against the shell. Cheers!
Amazing thanks Quinn i just love watching you do your magic.....Over my 80 some years i have been many things...... For the last 40 some years i have been a Gold Smith.... Shoe🇺🇸
Hi, thanks for all great job that you make, thanks to share your experiences, thanks to learn us in how to do it! I’m building a Rob Roy, I’m still far from the boiler but when I will be ready, those video will be my reference, thanks for what you do
When you said "you know what would have been the perfect tool for this, though?", I thought for sure you were going to say "Neil Paskin". 🤣 That man loves hand-filing more than any 10 machinists put together...
When I was around 16, I really wanted to build a steam locomotive. Glad I didn't waste a year of my life. Skills were certainly not there! I'm really enjoying your build!
there is NO SUCH BEAST as too much time with meccano!!! great video and an interesting project that teaches precision enjoying following your journey have a great day :)
I’ve been binging these videos for a while and think they are pretty dope. I just randomly watched this video by Paul Brodie who was silver soldering old Indian bike frames. He just made the video two days ago so maybe it’s useful. Kind of sad to watch for some reason but he definitely is good at it. Anyways thanks for the lolz.
It's only in this video that I put two and two together as to why steam trains look the way they do. I'd never realised that it was basically all boiler.
Yeah, you have maybe 1/5th to as little as 1/10th firebox at the back end, often pretty much all withing the cab. and then a large boiler with flue pipes travelling through to the smoke box at the front.
"Oops all boiler"
Always was.
@@Spiker985Studios “Boiler all the way down!”
Me too!
"the reasoning is shut up, that's why"
Always a treat to get some insight into your thought process, cheers!
The “shut up that’s why” 😂😂 I would never dare question reasoning like that!
It's very funny to me how when you start hammer forming the strip, the inertia of the strip sticking out into air is enough to resist the force of the hammer and create an opposite bend to nearly maintain the same angle. Makes total sense, but it's funny to see without having thought about it already
That's a result of the material shifting under the hammer. The material wants to keep its sides the same length, and the easiest way to do that is to bend outward according to the inward bend, making that S shape. This is also why a hammer formed or rolled piece will not have square ends: because the material has shifted to try and stay in place relative to where it was, the inside surface will reach out past the outside surface.
@@autochton that's even cooler
That is a prime demonstration of one of the things that Newton said was “an object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.”. While I am not saying that Quinn is unbalanced, she did provide a force and the long end of the bar did what it wants to do, stay at rest. In fact, that is one of the best examples of that concept that I have seen in quite a while.
@@oldfarthacks Oh I’m definitely unbalanced 😬
I have a pretty good idea why there are these Y pieces. It´s actually im concept something you see in a lot of constructions, not just metal, but clothing too. And it´s very common in areas where three or more joints meet each other. It offsets the seams from each other and redirects the forces. A point in which multiple seams/joints meet and that is repeatedly put under strain is a very weak point prone to rupture. The geometry of it just encurages material failure. Just leaving the sides of the throat plate would still leave the stress in one line and only marginally increase resilience. What you want to do, and what these small pieces do, is to offset the forces paralel to each other, disrupting them from all going into a single area. A good way to describe it is that these joints work like a lense for the forces, focussing them into a very small area.
We miss Sprocket making an appearance from time to time. 😉
I love that “shut up, because”. You learn very little doing every thing the easy way 👍😀
Transparent gauge pin bit had me giggling 😁 amazing to see the process and progress, Quinn!
Quinn is fun.
And we have more progress.
Yay!
"Because SHUT UP is why" had me laughing again.
Looking good!
Thanks, and Meow to Sprocket.
It's really coming together now!
I watched to the VERY end this week, watching all your Patrons scroll by. I wish I had the funds to join, but I just don't. So thanks so much to those of you who do. Quinn deserves all the support we can give.
Hey Quinn the mighty! That’s starting to look like a Choo-choo! Can’t wait to see it on the rails.
Hello from Germany.
You have every right to feel proud of how this is turning out. I hope you and sprocket did something special as a reward for your labors.
It seems to me that a good idea would be to combine the rivet ring and "Y" pieces by making the rivet ring longer and splitting the ends and bending them out to conform to the throat sheet.
I had exactly the same thought. The only reasons I can see for that not being better is that it might be very fiddly to get the split end to fit properly, as it does have to conform to two other pieces, and the space is very tight, so either you would have to do it with some weird clamping or you would have to take apart and put together the whole thing repeatedly. Even more than you have to anyways, that is.
Heh, you beat me to it 👌👍
@@Dawnlit I would solder it in place first, then saw and bendt it to fit
@@hjalar That would perhaps make it easier, but to make it fit into that horrible little corner it still has to fit closely with two other parts, with not enough space to swing a hammer. Screwing and unscrewing all those tiny screws just to check small changes in the fit over and over would drive me nuts.
I wonder if those pieces are trying to replicate the original design. On a full sized locomotive they might make more sense
As stressful as getting these builds within spec seems to be (it would be for me at least!), this is a very zen channel. Super relaxing. I always look forward to the next build video. :)
Great job of 'womanhandling' that complex construction into shape!
Alfred Hitchcock would be proud of the anxiety and drama that “ominous foreshadowing” induces in the audience 😂
Excellent progress. It’s looking like a thing!
Between the “shut up that’s why”, transparent gauge pin and Benny hill type music this episode has me giggling a lot. Thanks Quinn.
I'm glad Quinn explained why she didn't just file that inner ring short, I was wondering :)
I smiled right out loud at the Die Filer gag. Good humor! 👍
It's starting to look like the thing!
The best part of Saturday is here!
Quinn, you could always use copper romex house wiring pieces in 14,12,10 AWG to fill your small cracks and you may be able to put them through the roller to "square" them. That would help the solder fill the spaces better. Good work as always.
Great job as always, Quinn! And who among us has not messed up, paused and then made it work? I admire your honesty as much as your skill in machining. Nice work!! Definitely looking forward to seeing this project progress.
Great video, Quinn! I especially appreciate you showing the setups and thought process for the parts you are making. Just building the boiler is a lot of work. Taking the time to document the process and add comments is a remarkable contribution to the hobby. Thanks for sharing this with us!
Looking forward to seeing this completed and Sprocket having her own little cat bed car to get pulled around in.
... That is the plan, right?
It's amazing how much more of a sense of the overall scale has become apparent with those two pieces joined up. When you started this build, I wasn't sure I'd be interested in all of these early steps, but I couldn't have been more wrong. This is fascinating stuff! Already can't wait for the next installment! :-)
Thanks Quinn
New to your channel most satisfying discovery ever.Proof... Keep an old 75yrs " Boar" Learning Dreaming Entertain while discovering skilful techniques throughout your tutorials Best way to stay mentally physically fit no matter what
Wow! This is seriously a big sand amazing project! It's looking great! Thanks for sharing Quin!
Quinn, this thing is beautiful, cool and exciting!
Amazing work. I don't think I would have the nerve for this hobby. Every soldering session seems an opportunity for disaster to strike.
I enjoy watching you because you enjoy doing what you do with a passion!!!!
Yay!! It's Blondihacks time!!!
Very nice work, Quinn! Your boiler is looking really fantastic. These last several locomotive boiler videos have gladdened me with how satisfyingly ductile annealed copper is. I really appreciate your workpiece setups - always very thoughtful.
When you drill and tap through holes in layered material you usually cause the second layer to push away slightly so the threads don't match. The first layer is usually a clearance hole to avoid this. I wonder if this happened here or maybe since the thread size is so small it didn't occur. Thanks for the great content! I hope you are enjoying your new home and shop.
Hi Quinn, that was a very difficult milestone to achieve, having done so I am sure you are somewhat relieved. Positive waves all the way, of course you will not have any leaks. It really is starting to come together now Quinn, onward and upward, stay safe and enjoy your success.
That is almost as much work as building an industrial boiler. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Wow, that is such intricate work. I didn’t know that you could not continually fill with silver solder. Sure is coming along nicely. Thanks for the video.
Hope this gets a regular car scan !! Nice to see someone baking model steam boilers .. becoming a lost art .. you go girl . Hi from down under
Cat cat cat stupid machine.
You should look into making a magnetic square for your brake. A fun simple project that makes keeping your bends square to the dies
Of the 250+ UA-cam channels I'm subscribed-to, I'm MOST excited when I see you have a new video available!
Love the way you challenge yourself.
You did a great job with those throat sheet corner gaps, Quinn! Those gave me quite a time too. I used copper wire to fill in some pretty big gaps in that area. But as you did, I eventually got there. Well done! Enjoying watching your boiler build. It's coming along beautifully!
Great to know I’m not alone 😅
I really enjoy watching this build! You have skills!
Truly amazing to watch you put this boiler together, thank you so much for sharing.
hey quinn i am from england and just have to say i love your videos thank you so much and keep up the great work
Quinn typically the bottom blowdown is not at the very bottom. However there are hand holes that allow removal of sludge and calcium build up. I’m a retired Stationary Engineer. I started as a Steam Firemen operating and maintaining very large Fire tube boilers 100,000 lb/hr superheated steam used to drive boiler feedwater and condensate turbine pumps and water chillers. Really enjoying your boiler build videos and machinist projects.
Now its a boilermaker's tape 😊
That's a pretty complex assembly! I love your post- mortem analysis. I'm excited to see how the project continues!
Very nice work. I always learn new fixturing methods from your videos. Thanks and have a nice day.
Thank you as always!
Ooohhh nice Knipex pliers
BTW: @27:44 You can also use copper desoldering braid as a very good filler material like you did with the copper filler rod.
The major pluses are that it's extremely malleable and covers a lot of area easily so you use less solder.
It also comes in many different sizes and is pretty inexpensive too :)
That’s a great tip! I did not think of that. Thank you!
Yep! ID vs OD has caught many of us (and more than once too)!
Saturday nights in our house revolve round a glass of wine and the latest Blondihacks video. How wild is that?
Thank you for having me on this journey!😊
Hello Bakker, how are you doing😊
Blondihacks, you're an inspiration and I get to vicariously live through your build! You should have forced that round former in there to flatten the ears against the shell. Cheers!
It seems that you just graduated as a mechanic for car chassis metal parts, hand made. Great job!
This is looking great! I am really enjoying watching a steam train engine grow from the boiler out.
“Shut up! Thats why!” I so LOL’ed! Love it!
4:40 "it's for the important reason that shut up that's why" - this made my day. 😂😂
"Thinky fingers" - love it! 🤣🤣🤣
Super excited for you Quinn. Thanks for the video, helps a lot!
I love my step bit. It stepped up when my real bit went for smokes one day and never came back.
I never knew my real bit...
This build is very impressive!! Working with a jewelers saw isn’t as easy as it looks, the saw blades are rather thin and easily break. Great job!
Quinn... has great skills..
"because shut up" ... that caught me off guard:D
Amazing thanks Quinn i just love watching you do your magic.....Over my 80 some years i have been many things...... For the last 40 some years i have been a Gold Smith....
Shoe🇺🇸
Excellent video. Thank you. 😄
Coming together and looking good
Well done Quinn. Fascinating.
Hi, thanks for all great job that you make, thanks to share your experiences, thanks to learn us in how to do it! I’m building a Rob Roy, I’m still far from the boiler but when I will be ready, those video will be my reference, thanks for what you do
Top job Quinn 👍
looking good
I now completely understand why boiler makers have their own drink.
Hello Quinn, this project is so interesting, can't wait for the next episode.
My Saturday is complete!
congratulations You worked through the corners big step 👍
I’m glad this worked out, I was very worried for a minute 😬
Great vids, love how you explain your thoughts of why to do a thing a certain way, and how you'd do it different if you had it do to over again.
WOW!!!! You are an awesome fabricator.
Great video Quinn, it's really starting to look like a locomotive engine.
There is so much ominous foreshadowing in this video that it reached fiveshadowing.
When you said "you know what would have been the perfect tool for this, though?", I thought for sure you were going to say "Neil Paskin". 🤣 That man loves hand-filing more than any 10 machinists put together...
Except maybe that one australian guy who made the clock, I believe he goes by Clickspring
When I was around 16, I really wanted to build a steam locomotive. Glad I didn't waste a year of my life. Skills were certainly not there! I'm really enjoying your build!
Thanks Blondi
Amazing job! I'm looking forward to the next episode!
Thanks for sharing Quinn.
Good luck. Hopefully this can pressurise!
there is NO SUCH BEAST as too much time with meccano!!!
great video and an interesting project that teaches precision
enjoying following your journey
have a great day :)
Thanks
I’ve been binging these videos for a while and think they are pretty dope. I just randomly watched this video by Paul Brodie who was silver soldering old Indian bike frames. He just made the video two days ago so maybe it’s useful.
Kind of sad to watch for some reason but he definitely is good at it.
Anyways thanks for the lolz.
Nice episode Quinn, lot of work but coming together nicely. You have way more patience than most of us.🙂
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video and update. Coming along nicely.
Wow, it made my afternoon when your notification popped up.
Congratulations, great work!
Very reminiscent of This Old Tony with the die filer joke :)
Thanks Quinn
You look like you are having fun.
love your videos can't wait till the next one. keep up the great work 😀😀❤❤
Wow - thank you for sharing this
Looking good Quinn, thanks for the video.👍👍