As Dhoni himself said in the post match conference vs SRH, - " Batting first is all about instinct. Chasing is all about calculation." Sums up this great video.
@@drevil5066 Other players need to at least defend their wicket, there's only so much one man can do. Oh, and he's won many of these chases before in case u missed.
exactly, i mean we all saw the 40 year old manliterally sprint for his life for the twos yesterday and not just yesterday his whole cricketing life. this man just keeps you wanting more .
even if they lose the game , the NRR is saved most times , helped chennai finish in top 2 a lot of times ,. This might not work in knock outs (2013 final , 2014 q2, sf 2015 wc) but its quite a hit in league stages .
I think it’s the opposite. Logically this approach is better in playoffs than in league stage. In playoffs it’s about win or loss because nrr doesn’t matter at all so you can take the game to the end. But in groups you would want to win fast as possible because nrr matters. That’s why CSK is always there in the finals even if they finish 4th in groups or 1st in groups
@@bookedroomer Dhoni's approach is a double edged sword , can backfire a lot , and it has happened in playoffs . He delays the attack too much that in the end the rr is too much to chase down.
I used to profess to my friends and family that MSD is a very cerebral player and captain during his early and formation years. I was a kid back then but had a fairly good understanding of the game(i used to watch a lot of cricket). Many of them dismissed the 2007 WC win in South Africa to be dumb luck. And many said he was a lucky guy to be doing these things. He is obviously very street smart. His batting has many limitations technically but temperamentally and tactically he is the best ever and i would be very surprised if anybody is.
2007 T20 WC was dumb luck. India won every game where they batted 1st. And lost the only game in which they had to chase. Also Dhoni and India were complete shit in 2009, 2010 and 2012 T20 world cups. And the biggest proof of it being a fluke is that India has never come anywhere near winning a T20 WC since then.
@@drevil5066 2014 Final, 2016 semifinals and many other semifinals,2007 trophy, 5 IPL trophy all of that dumb luck ? You don't get lucky and end of in finals of an ICC event.. dhoni has always believed in the process that's why he is one of the greatest captain of all time.. take a digene that will help you digest it .
Dhoni once said that you always controll the controllable and that's why he didn't celebrate much after win and don't get disappointed after loss. Cause bowlers gotta to their job and sometimes they will outperform him like DJ Bravo or Bumrah Or Rabada has done in the past.
You just decoded two of the most interesting finishers who ever played! Excellent work! I am interested to know what your view is about the more technically sound players like Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting, etc. Could they have finished games as well as these two?
Thanks for making this video Jarrod . I didn't grew up in the 90's ,so I couldn't watch Michael Bevan , on the other hand I probably watched MS's whole career .
The Dhoni way of run chase is good. But in knockouts, The risk taker partner of Dhoni may crumble under pressure in games with higher stakes. This has happened on few unwanted occasions from pov of Dhoni's team.
@@manavsridharan3811 Yes, Picks for CSK are in his control and they're great. Here, I was talking about ICT, i.e. failure in 2015 & 2019 worldcup playoffs in particular.
oh my god, the universe conspired to build jarrod's skills, knowledge and everything else he does on his youtube channel and substack to disect that chase down from dhoni. Beautiful
Great analysis! I feel where Dhoni comes short, though, is when breaking the chase early actually makes sense, but he never goes for it, putting the team in an impossible situation at the end, like 100 runs in 30 balls. Talking about 2015 WC semi-final against Aus and 2019 game against England. Those are not percentage situations, and cannot be played in the percentage way that Dhoni plays. Some situations need Kevin O'Brien blasting 113 off 63 balls. Dhoni is capable of such innings, but for some reason doesn't go for it.
He doesnt go for it brcause even kevinobrien knows its once in a many kind of innings and those innings fail more often than not ! So its always better to take the game deep and play the full game..so that you give yourself full chance of playing for the result and wait for any mistake from the bowlers. Cricket is a funny game ,anything is possible if you just play the game till the end!!
Even after so many years and repeatedly doing this over and over.. why hasnt analyst recommended or captains choose to keep their best bowlers for the last over if Dhoni is present in the crease and make him score earlier than the take it deep? Have they tried that method with Dhoni and has it helped team win? Like WI did against India with Bravo bowling last over against Dhoni in Florida?
There is always a bowler you can target who bowls in the last 4..somebody who has had a record of leaking too many runs in the death. In that match against MI too Bumrah bowled two overs in the last 4. Now your analogy of keeping your best bowlers for the last overs doesn't really always work because you need them to ball at different phases of the game too when you desperately need a wicket or needing wickets upfront to put opposition on the backfoot. That would only work when you have maybe 3 Bumrah's in the team playing. There is always a weak bowler around whom you can target and weak not really weak ...I mean weak relative to the superior hitting skills of Dhoni when he really wants to go after somebody. Maybe you don't keep at all any overs of Unadkat for the death and try to finish him before 17 ..Dhoni too is calculating and would not spare him even he balls the 17th over because he knows this is one chance to get the RR down to an extent where he can take far lesser risks of maybe upcoming two Bumrah overs. That's why teams cannot do anything about this strategy of his inspite of knowing it's coming. The only way is to get him out cheaply quite early into his innings which Dhoni doesn't allow that to happen because he very rarely takes a risk upfront.
Prime Dhoni didn't care much about who the bowler was bowling in the end. He backed his abilities and the bowlers were always under pressure with his stature, even the best would make mistakes and the rest as we know "Dhoni finishes it off on style".
That's the 2003 WC match I thought Australia would lose. But Bevan batted and batted.. Its a good analysis about his approach. But as you said only few would dare to follow this.
Finally someone made a video about this , I thought I was the only one who saw similarities between Bevan and Dhoni. The only difference being Dhoni has done it in all the formats.
11:43: Many batters are so focussed on boundaries that running hard doesn't occur to them. Me: Wish it had occurred to Martin Guptill facing the last ball of that Super Over in the World Cup final
@@zaydjawad3653 He went for the boundary which was never on. Instead, he should have tried to play that in the gap which would have increased his chances for a two.
Can you just make an analysis on dhoni's chasing skills for India in T20Is? as we all know he failed to chase 7+ runs in the last over, all 7 times in a t20I chase which is very staggering
I've often wondered if taking it deep actually works. Starting slowly will mean you'll be not out more often (in both wins and losses) but also mean you'll lose more often when you are out. Maybe this trade off is worth it, but maybe it's costing your team to go slow early and you'd be better off going harder to win quicker while risking being out more. I'm not sure there's an easy way to find out and maybe it doesn't make much difference to the win/loss ratio and just means fewer games getting to the last few deliveries.
I would think a really good player with the right temperament and skill set could make this work in any chase with a high chance of success… The problem often is when their skills are on the wane and they still don’t change their methods or entry points to minimise the increasingly glaring weaknesses. Dhoni for instance had to have 2 really poor years post international retirement to come to terms with batting really low, down the order.
It doesn't. You are eating up deliveries and thinking "i am so good that I will hit 10 runs per over in last 6-7" and also putting pressure on non striker. A partnership when both players attack in tandem is better than one man heroics.
@@paysmenot2624 or rather, if you've done this for your team so often as dhoni has, the non striker often doesn't have to fear getting out and can play his shots at will because he knows even if he gets out, dhoni will be there to take them home. It wouldn't work with a new batter who's trying the same thing but dhoni has established his ability to get the job done
Great analysis but I have a question to ask. What if Dhoni got out in the end ? Like he played slowly to begin with and in the 19th or 20th over he got out. Do you have the stats for that ? Like win loss percentage. The same for odis would be wonderful to have as well. Like in the second innings when Dhoni got out after the 40th over.
In an interview, MSD did say that he took it deep, by that time NZ used up their main bowlers and MSD was confident to hit the required runs against the 5th bowler (Neesham) who was to bowl the last over...but Guptil's direct hit run out did meant MSD got out before the final over and the plan did not materialize
well more so team managements strategy , I mean if you've lost your top 3 for 1 run each , even a toddler would know that its dhoni who has to walk in and not hardik not pant and certainly not dinesh karthik
@@generalmedicine8058 rightly put , i mean dhonis plan was so crystal clear , look for 2's on the good balls and smack neesham in the last over , unfortunately guptill chose to have the moment of his life right then
Dhoni - the myth, that has been hyped into 'Dhoni - the Legend'. Fun facts - Dhoni has actually never been able to finish a game in a T20 world cup (nope that win against Australia in 2016 was Kohli finishing it). In the only T20 WC that India won (back in 2007), India won all the games they batted 1st in. The only game they lost was against NZ and thats when they batted 2nd. In all subsequent WCs India didn't even make it to the Semi finals (till the 2014 WC). Many key games were there where he had the chance to finish a tough chase....but he couldn't 🙂. Even in ODIs, Dhoni didn't finish too many after that game against Shaminda Eranga in the WI in 2013. He struggled to finish a T20I game against Chris Woakes (where he infamously declined singles with poor Ambati Rayudu (who had a similar strike rate in T20s to what Dhoni has in T20Is)). He once embarrassingly, failed to finish a game against Zimbabwe. He dawdled to a 94 ball 65 against Australia in the 2015 WC semi final, while chasing 329, and then tried to make everyone believe that it wasn't a WC semi-final but some practice match as if everyone else was just a retard. He did well in the IPL but in the last 2-3 years, most teams were happy to bowl to him if the Required run-rate was 10+. And lets not forget how his franchise was banned in the IPL, but he inspite of being captain and very close to Sreenivasan and Mayappan, got away scot-free. Dhoni the finisher was FINISHED YEARS ago. But the hype still goes on.
As Dhoni himself said in the post match conference vs SRH, - " Batting first is all about instinct. Chasing is all about calculation." Sums up this great video.
Yeah, but why did he give up in ODIs when the asking rate as above 7.5 at his point of entry?
@@drevil5066 Other players need to at least defend their wicket, there's only so much one man can do. Oh, and he's won many of these chases before in case u missed.
That's what I love about Dhoni. He's an unashamed gambler, he just plays Poker with the bowlers at the death.
This sums it up beautifully
exactly, i mean we all saw the 40 year old manliterally sprint for his life for the twos yesterday and not just yesterday his whole cricketing life. this man just keeps you wanting more .
even if they lose the game , the NRR is saved most times , helped chennai finish in top 2 a lot of times ,. This might not work in knock outs (2013 final , 2014 q2, sf 2015 wc) but its quite a hit in league stages .
I think it’s the opposite. Logically this approach is better in playoffs than in league stage. In playoffs it’s about win or loss because nrr doesn’t matter at all so you can take the game to the end. But in groups you would want to win fast as possible because nrr matters. That’s why CSK is always there in the finals even if they finish 4th in groups or 1st in groups
@@bookedroomer Dhoni's approach is a double edged sword , can backfire a lot , and it has happened in playoffs . He delays the attack too much that in the end the rr is too much to chase down.
I used to profess to my friends and family that MSD is a very cerebral player and captain during his early and formation years. I was a kid back then but had a fairly good understanding of the game(i used to watch a lot of cricket). Many of them dismissed the 2007 WC win in South Africa to be dumb luck. And many said he was a lucky guy to be doing these things. He is obviously very street smart. His batting has many limitations technically but temperamentally and tactically he is the best ever and i would be very surprised if anybody is.
2007 T20 WC was dumb luck. India won every game where they batted 1st. And lost the only game in which they had to chase. Also Dhoni and India were complete shit in 2009, 2010 and 2012 T20 world cups.
And the biggest proof of it being a fluke is that India has never come anywhere near winning a T20 WC since then.
@@drevil5066the tactics of dhoni not useful all the time....
@@drevil5066 2014 Final, 2016 semifinals and many other semifinals,2007 trophy, 5 IPL trophy all of that dumb luck ? You don't get lucky and end of in finals of an ICC event.. dhoni has always believed in the process that's why he is one of the greatest captain of all time.. take a digene that will help you digest it .
Dhoni once said that you always controll the controllable and that's why he didn't celebrate much after win and don't get disappointed after loss.
Cause bowlers gotta to their job and sometimes they will outperform him like DJ Bravo or Bumrah Or Rabada has done in the past.
This is wonderfully done. Thanks for the video.
You just decoded two of the most interesting finishers who ever played! Excellent work! I am interested to know what your view is about the more technically sound players like Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting, etc. Could they have finished games as well as these two?
MSD is the GOAT of Finishing Games.
I always appreciate the matrix of avg and SR Jarrod uses instead of aggregate called "BASRA". Ofcourse harbhajan singh disagrees
Thanks for making this video Jarrod . I didn't grew up in the 90's ,so I couldn't watch Michael Bevan , on the other hand I probably watched MS's whole career .
What a wonderfully made video! Detailed, statically backed as always and intriguing in the narrative. More of these please!
The Dhoni way of run chase is good. But in knockouts, The risk taker partner of Dhoni may crumble under pressure in games with higher stakes. This has happened on few unwanted occasions from pov of Dhoni's team.
Well I guess he picks his players based on temperament as well, makes sense why CSK love Gaikwad so much
@@manavsridharan3811 Yes, Picks for CSK are in his control and they're great. Here, I was talking about ICT, i.e. failure in 2015 & 2019 worldcup playoffs in particular.
oh my god, the universe conspired to build jarrod's skills, knowledge and everything else he does on his youtube channel and substack to disect that chase down from dhoni. Beautiful
Oh my god what a detailed analysis !
Excellent Analysis
Love these animations
That's insightful and helpful for aspiring young cricketers @Jarrod Kimber. Love and respect from India ❤
This is so well explained. 🙌
Great analysis!
I feel where Dhoni comes short, though, is when breaking the chase early actually makes sense, but he never goes for it, putting the team in an impossible situation at the end, like 100 runs in 30 balls. Talking about 2015 WC semi-final against Aus and 2019 game against England. Those are not percentage situations, and cannot be played in the percentage way that Dhoni plays. Some situations need Kevin O'Brien blasting 113 off 63 balls. Dhoni is capable of such innings, but for some reason doesn't go for it.
He doesnt go for it brcause even kevinobrien knows its once in a many kind of innings and those innings fail more often than not ! So its always better to take the game deep and play the full game..so that you give yourself full chance of playing for the result and wait for any mistake from the bowlers. Cricket is a funny game ,anything is possible if you just play the game till the end!!
What an excellent video! Loved it
Thank you for this. Too good.
Wow!
That's some god-level analysis.
Brilliant! Totally loved it.
what an effort man......as good as the guys u spoke about...
As always you are the absolute best on these videos 😍😍😍
Great video, love this
I wish This Video was made in 2019... Dhonis Stats in IPL would have been out of the World...
Excellent analysis 👌
Even after so many years and repeatedly doing this over and over.. why hasnt analyst recommended or captains choose to keep their best bowlers for the last over if Dhoni is present in the crease and make him score earlier than the take it deep? Have they tried that method with Dhoni and has it helped team win?
Like WI did against India with Bravo bowling last over against Dhoni in Florida?
Exactly my thoughts, no idea i couldn't find any one instance where in ipl teams hav done that recently
There is always a bowler you can target who bowls in the last 4..somebody who has had a record of leaking too many runs in the death. In that match against MI too Bumrah bowled two overs in the last 4. Now your analogy of keeping your best bowlers for the last overs doesn't really always work because you need them to ball at different phases of the game too when you desperately need a wicket or needing wickets upfront to put opposition on the backfoot. That would only work when you have maybe 3 Bumrah's in the team playing. There is always a weak bowler around whom you can target and weak not really weak ...I mean weak relative to the superior hitting skills of Dhoni when he really wants to go after somebody. Maybe you don't keep at all any overs of Unadkat for the death and try to finish him before 17 ..Dhoni too is calculating and would not spare him even he balls the 17th over because he knows this is one chance to get the RR down to an extent where he can take far lesser risks of maybe upcoming two Bumrah overs. That's why teams cannot do anything about this strategy of his inspite of knowing it's coming. The only way is to get him out cheaply quite early into his innings which Dhoni doesn't allow that to happen because he very rarely takes a risk upfront.
@@HimanshuSingh-sn8yw Absolutely on point! 💯
He use to take best bowlers a lot many time. He use to play well against like Malinga, Boult, Murli and Stayn.
Prime Dhoni didn't care much about who the bowler was bowling in the end. He backed his abilities and the bowlers were always under pressure with his stature, even the best would make mistakes and the rest as we know "Dhoni finishes it off on style".
That's the 2003 WC match I thought Australia would lose. But Bevan batted and batted..
Its a good analysis about his approach. But as you said only few would dare to follow this.
What a great video 👏👏👏
There won't be another Dhoni..
Finally someone made a video about this , I thought I was the only one who saw similarities between Bevan and Dhoni. The only difference being Dhoni has done it in all the formats.
11:43: Many batters are so focussed on boundaries that running hard doesn't occur to them.
Me: Wish it had occurred to Martin Guptill facing the last ball of that Super Over in the World Cup final
He ran as hard as he could and hes generally one of NZ's fastest batsman in running. The double was just impossible
@@zaydjawad3653 He went for the boundary which was never on. Instead, he should have tried to play that in the gap which would have increased his chances for a two.
Excellent
The businessman in Mr Kimber told him to add only Dhoni’s name in the title to ensure the views…the patriot makes him concentrate first on Bevan 😂
Can you just make an analysis on dhoni's chasing skills for India in T20Is? as we all know he failed to chase 7+ runs in the last over, all 7 times in a t20I chase which is very staggering
Please do a video on why Ab de Villiers is so good at the death!
Dhoni playd Unadkat in the nets whn he was in RPS, thts why he was confident against him.
dude he's played Bumrah in the Indian nets plenty too, it just came down to the 2 bowlers death over skills.
@@rohanhajeri2008 Bumrah has slower yorkars. You can't expect slower ball from Unadkat he is already slow. 🤣
I've often wondered if taking it deep actually works. Starting slowly will mean you'll be not out more often (in both wins and losses) but also mean you'll lose more often when you are out. Maybe this trade off is worth it, but maybe it's costing your team to go slow early and you'd be better off going harder to win quicker while risking being out more. I'm not sure there's an easy way to find out and maybe it doesn't make much difference to the win/loss ratio and just means fewer games getting to the last few deliveries.
I would think a really good player with the right temperament and skill set could make this work in any chase with a high chance of success… The problem often is when their skills are on the wane and they still don’t change their methods or entry points to minimise the increasingly glaring weaknesses. Dhoni for instance had to have 2 really poor years post international retirement to come to terms with batting really low, down the order.
It doesn't. You are eating up deliveries and thinking "i am so good that I will hit 10 runs per over in last 6-7" and also putting pressure on non striker. A partnership when both players attack in tandem is better than one man heroics.
@@paysmenot2624 or rather, if you've done this for your team so often as dhoni has, the non striker often doesn't have to fear getting out and can play his shots at will because he knows even if he gets out, dhoni will be there to take them home. It wouldn't work with a new batter who's trying the same thing but dhoni has established his ability to get the job done
Great analysis but I have a question to ask.
What if Dhoni got out in the end ? Like he played slowly to begin with and in the 19th or 20th over he got out. Do you have the stats for that ? Like win loss percentage.
The same for odis would be wonderful to have as well. Like in the second innings when Dhoni got out after the 40th over.
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You said power rankings, every alternative mondays, right?
Cut the crap Dhoni is genius.
Please analyse his strategy in the 2019 world Cup semi-final.
It's likely the same strategy, which unfortunately did not work at that time
In an interview, MSD did say that he took it deep, by that time NZ used up their main bowlers and MSD was confident to hit the required runs against the 5th bowler (Neesham) who was to bowl the last over...but Guptil's direct hit run out did meant MSD got out before the final over and the plan did not materialize
well more so team managements strategy , I mean if you've lost your top 3 for 1 run each , even a toddler would know that its dhoni who has to walk in and not hardik not pant and certainly not dinesh karthik
@@generalmedicine8058 rightly put , i mean dhonis plan was so crystal clear , look for 2's on the good balls and smack neesham in the last over , unfortunately guptill chose to have the moment of his life right then
First of its dumb to send him at 7
Like you have your most experience batter and u send him at 7?? Like wtfff
Dhoni - the myth, that has been hyped into 'Dhoni - the Legend'.
Fun facts - Dhoni has actually never been able to finish a game in a T20 world cup (nope that win against Australia in 2016 was Kohli finishing it). In the only T20 WC that India won (back in 2007), India won all the games they batted 1st in. The only game they lost was against NZ and thats when they batted 2nd. In all subsequent WCs India didn't even make it to the Semi finals (till the 2014 WC). Many key games were there where he had the chance to finish a tough chase....but he couldn't 🙂.
Even in ODIs, Dhoni didn't finish too many after that game against Shaminda Eranga in the WI in 2013. He struggled to finish a T20I game against Chris Woakes (where he infamously declined singles with poor Ambati Rayudu (who had a similar strike rate in T20s to what Dhoni has in T20Is)). He once embarrassingly, failed to finish a game against Zimbabwe.
He dawdled to a 94 ball 65 against Australia in the 2015 WC semi final, while chasing 329, and then tried to make everyone believe that it wasn't a WC semi-final but some practice match as if everyone else was just a retard.
He did well in the IPL but in the last 2-3 years, most teams were happy to bowl to him if the Required run-rate was 10+. And lets not forget how his franchise was banned in the IPL, but he inspite of being captain and very close to Sreenivasan and Mayappan, got away scot-free.
Dhoni the finisher was FINISHED YEARS ago. But the hype still goes on.
Keep crying 😭 Hater 🤣
So basically it's unadkat blessings for dhoni to be best finisher. 🤙
Dont take up Data Science as profession for the good of the world.
@@MandeepKumar-uh8xs lol😂😂