Honda CX500 Cafe Racer Build 5 - Fitting The Rear Hoop
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Fitting the rear hoop by first measuring and cutting to the size needed for the Honda CX500 Cafe Racer project.
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This is the point where most builders go mono shock. I can't wait to see what you do with the shock mounts. Keep up the great work. "Top"
Yeah it would definitely be an easy 'temporary' option.
i just got a CX500 and am so stoked on finding this channel!
Thanks for watching. Good luck with your CX
I like the seat and tank setup, there is nice symmetry from above. You talked about painting the tank, but if it was left as is, the stripes would flow well with a red frame. Looking forward to the next step.
Thanks, we'll see what I decide with the colours. ;)
One thing you'll want to do when you start figuring out the mounting point for the shocks is make sure that they won't bind on the frame under full compression. The last thing you want is for the frame to act like bump stops causing the rear end to suddenly stop moving, it could make for a pretty sketchy ride. You could fix this by adding a gusset between the frame and your rear hoop that has the mounting points. This would help strengthening that area and also give the shocks close to their original mounting point so that their travel is close to the original geometry of the back end.
Yeah definitely something worth thinking about, I'll use the original mounts, and although I'll be putting them lower down I'm using slightly smaller shocks than the original so that the drive shaft won't be on such an unnatural angle. thanks
Cheers! Really loving your build vids. It's letting me live vicariously through you until I can get a build of my own going!
Glad the videos help your vicarious fix. All the best for when you start a build and your journey to it.
Liam McCormick lol I'm doing the same. One day we'll build ours haha cheers
Sweet! Thanks for sharing your thought process and not speeding through the build. The top view of the tank and seat looks really tight (that is a positive reflection). I'm going to be very interested to see how you tie in that rear shock so it doesn't look like an erector-set, that bracket is going to be important. Good going and keep up your insightful videos.
Cheers, Chris
Thanks, yeah I really didn't want to rush it, I think this stage is really important to get right.
Did you ever put a link up for where you bought the seat hoop from I can't see it? Cheers. Keep up the good work.
i started following your channel few weeks ago and i learned so much from your suzuki gs built. i realize that i made several mistake in my bike before. keep up the good work mate. hello from malaysia.
Thank you for following. Don't think of them as mistakes, but a way of learning, trust me, I do plenty.
Eff yeah, I've been waiting so patiently for part 5
See you next week with part 6 :)
Thanks for following the build.
you have a new subscriber buddy! great job, i really want to see how the bike'll look at the end of your project
Fantastic, glad you've sub'd.
as for the completely covered type of seats, I think the Motolana seats look good. people use them a lot on Virago and SR400 builds. it's a copy of an other seat but I forgot who makes it.
Just googled it, that's a nice seat.
i just bought that same seat for my build very impressed for how inexpensive it was
Not a bad price is it, even if you use the foam and plastic and ditch the fake leather cover.
love the seat. ill be ordering one very similar to that for my build. looks good sir.
Brilliant, glad you like it.
Is there an updated video with it finished?? It’s 2:30am, just came in from working on the 500 I’m building, wish I could post a pic! I got lucky and found a gl500 so it was already mono shock, I’ve literally just been fitting that same seat, I found it fit a lot better by pulling the vinyl back and trimming the corners of the seat frame where it meets the tank, round both sides off with the tank then restaple it back down, fits so nice now
There’s a whole series including a time lapse of this build
Offtopic question: What are the major differences between the XV1100 and XV750 Viragos, apart from the engine? I mean, in structural terms.
Love what you're doing man, can not wait for the next update!
Cheers.
To be honest I'm not 100% sure. I've never delved into a Virago, but it's one bike I'd like to.
I love the lines on this frame mod, and want to exactly duplicate the hoop and new upper shock mount you've done. I think the proportions of that seat and tank are spot on. I'm also not a fan of the CX500 upswept frame with dcafe seat. My question which seems to have been asked before, is where did you buy the 270mm x 230mm hoop? Did you use all that length when done? I have found one on ebay which is 255mm long but I don't know if that will suffice.
Thanks. You can always ask the seller to provide a longer one which they most always will do.
Hey Dreegez! I have an idea for you about the loop fitment... Why don't you weld the loop aligned with the upper tubes, so you can have a straight line from tank to tail?
It should be a straight line i the end, unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean.
On your seat hump you could have it re-leatherd in your own design to match the tank!!
Good idea.
Could you list the parts purchased and links to each? For those of us wishing to build something along the same lines.
Yeah, good idea, will do.
really looking forward towards how all of this is going to play out. and the all leather seat was a good touch. when the hoop is painted bright red the two will look great... lastly do you plan to strip down the engine after the hoop or are you gonna do the shocks???
I think I'm going to pause on the rear end whilst I wait for the new shocks as I'll need them before fitting everything in, so yeah I'll jump on the engine but I'm in 2 minds about stripping it down. It's had new rings so not sure if I'd need to. Also in 2 minds about powder coating the engine.
For The Bold - dreegez I think you should powder coat it... After cleaning it up nicely with a new paint job it will look brand new...
Unrelated to anything with the bike, what's your name, sorry I didn't catch it.
Love the build, can't wait to see more!
Have a cafe virago 750 I'm building myself, keep up the great content.
Another great and helpful video! Thanks!
Thank you.
Thanks for your videos. I just bought an 81 Honda CX500 Custom. I didn't realize the front tire (19') was so much bigger than the rear (16'). Since I would like spokes, could you recommend the size of the wheels (thinking two 17 or 18')? Also, the best way to get or make the spoked rims? Thank you so much!
Yes the custom rears are a lot smaller to give it that cruiser look. The standard rears like on mine are 18”. As for spokes, try cognito Moto or see if there are any standard CX out there with spokes that has drums.
Hello, I would like to know if it is possible to make the same design you made on the HONDA CX500 with the HONDA CM400, thank you.
Do you recommend getting the seat first and then ordering the hoop? I would imagine it's easier that way because then I'll know how long of a hoop or if I need it to curve up in the back or not.
Yeah that's a logical way to look at it, I usually buy longer hoops than I need but if you have a clear length in mind then job done
Finding your channel really useful, keep it up! Just readying my own garage for my first full build and considering a CX. You weren't tempted by the peanut tank version?
Thank you. I have seen examples of it but personally I prefer the bulk of this tank.
I am looking for a CX seat and original subframe like you have cut off to make my trike into a 2 seater again! Don't suppose you still have one by any chance?
Sorry I don’t have it anymore.
have you tried a photoshop of the rear end with the dual shocks, pictured from behind? isn't it going to be to wide for the skinny wheel, considering that the seat and tank combo is quite narrow?
The duals will be mounted in the same place as the originals, I won't be moving the lower mounts as 1 is on the swingarm and the other is on the wheel itself. Hopefully it'll look right, but I will be changing the tyres.
are you going for looks only? or performance?
I won't be increasing the performance of the engine, only reducing the weight of the bike, but I'll be adding a tyre that's safe to ride with.
May I ask is the seat marketed for cg125? is the seat 53cm long? Ive been considering the same seat for my build. mine is a cbx750p which is very similar in terms of shape with cx500
Off the top of my head I think the seat is 55cm long, 23-24cm wide if that helps.
I'm looking to do my seat the same way, do I need a hoop length of 270mm? I can't find any for sale with that length unless I spend 4X's as much and order a custom or buy off of Dime City.
A lot of places on ebay that supply these hoops will do them on spec also.
Whrn you cut into a frame and then attach the rear shocks to that part aren't you scared that it wil suddendly break under pressure on the road
No, I commissioned a proper bike frame fabricator to weld the rear end fir me so it's stronger than the original weld.
could you please add an instagram URL to your description box?
Will do.
hello again . I thought I am the one who are confuse a lot but . thx bro . any way ur fuel tank look fatty from the top view really it's looks .
what the dimmenssion of the loop actually my bike seat frame road ar 170 m.m outer to outer
The dimensions for the one I've got are 230mm wide and I asked for 170mm length. But I'll post a link up to the place I get mine from as they do custom sizes.
Sorry if its on another video, but where do you order your parts?
To be honest everywhere. There isn't one main place, could be anywhere from ebay to Amazon to Dime City Cycles.
did you ever drink a hot coffee while working on your bikes?:D everytime i see a full cup of coffee, but i never see you drinking it :D
nice work so far, keep going :)
Ha, I drink far too much hot drinks, probably a new one every time you see one. And they do eventually get left or some dirt gets into them
When you get one of these on the road will you start a motovlog?
Absolutely, I guess it might be the Suzuki first.
Hi There.could I send you a picture of my bike?I am doing the seat and just wondering about your opinion.
YEah of course.
What is your email address?
Back of the tank needs to come up 3-4cm from stock, hoop needs to be angled up at the back about 1-2cm from where you have it clamped... this will give you a straight line from the bottom of your seat (where the pleats are) to the front of the tank.... which is what the CX needs to look "right".
I ave been playing with the hoop, my worry is if it stuck up, I'd be going back to the original frame fabrication that stuck up, and that's the bit I din't like about the CX. I've seen previous versions where people meet the tank to the raised rear end, but what they do then is fill in the gap.
OH! Well if that's the case, do-away with the loop all together, do a bracket to span the two sides of the frame under the seat to give you a place to mount the seat... then simply weld on plates and posts for your shocks to the back of the original hoops. Maybe then do a fender under the back of the seat to hide the plastic bottom. It could also be said that maybe a flat-tracker style seat with no hump and a flat bottom would fit the style better, but I definitely see where you WANT to go with this build :).
Remember that if you change front forks angle too much it's going to be a wild ride.
Absolutely, still undecided on whether I'll be changing the front shocks yet we'll see.
I'm working on cx500 too and looking for a usd fork, for this summer probably not but maybe for the next winters project..
I think that's the beauty of these bikes is that we can change bits at a later date when we feel like it or can afford it. Good luck with your build.
For The Bold - dreegez thank you and good luck to you too, I'll be following your build. And thumbs up for your vids, quality is great and easy to watch. Need to check the other vids too, just found the cx500 serie yesterday.
Thank yu.
Just don't lift the tank too much or else the fuel won't flow properly
The seat should be a bit wider
I was thinking that but then when I put it on the frame it fits nicely, I think any wider will fall off the edges of the frame.
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ohh man, the seat is still to small for size of the bike. sorry to say that
I think the big tank is the issue.
It's cool to say. Personally I'm not over keen on these builds that have a massive rear cowl as it kinda detracts the attention and the visual bulk being above the engine. I guess if we all created the same bike it wouldn't be as fun. I hope it hasn't put you off the build much though.
The proportion to the tank could very well be my issue. It does look good from the top, it's the side that doesn't do it for me. I do agree however that is a personal choice. I just went a different route with my CB450 build :)
Keep up the great work, can't wait to see how it turns up.
Thanks, do you have any pics of your CB? Let's see how this turns out, I had a feeling the seat would cause a few thoughts ;)
All the camera wobbeling almost getting motion sickness from watchin. Maybe leave the camera on a tripod?
Aren’t you a delicate little flower? Do you need a safe space and a hug?
still didn't like the seat :/
That's fair enough.
I think the problem is that the tank is too big for that seat.. I could be wrong but I just don't see the two working well together
All I can say is wait until it's done, might change your mind, or not... we'll see. ;)