Getting Dressed in Early 17th Century Historical Clothing: 1600-1625

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  • @kattkatt744
    @kattkatt744 3 роки тому +307

    I feel like the whole of the 17th century is underrepresented in historical costuming. You get some people dipping their toes in with 1660s dress or maybe a 1690s mantua, but the century was so much more than that, so varied in silhouette, particularly the transition and strange off shots happening in the 1610s to the 1640s before things settle more down for the rest of the century. Really love you putting some focus on the more unloved times of this century!

    • @mastersnet18
      @mastersnet18 3 роки тому +11

      Yea it’s definitely one of the most ignored eras on fashion history. I’m not sure why because a lot of the fashions are beautiful to me.

    • @habituscraeftig
      @habituscraeftig 3 роки тому +7

      I'm gearing up for a 1630s smooth-faced stays project, and there's really not a lot out there, in terms of dedicated resources. Luckily, V&A published a two-book set on "Seventeenth-Century Women's Dress Patterns," which includes good information on construction, or I'd be stuck winging it with patterns from Janet Arnold and Nora Waugh (which is beyond my comfort zone, as a beginning-level sewist)

    • @livingdeadgirl5691
      @livingdeadgirl5691 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, the only movies that represent early 1600s that come to my mind are VVitch, Silence and Tulip fever, which is a shame cuz film makers can make multiple movies on the themes of witch burnings in Europe, the 30 years war, the pilgrims in Americas ect...

    • @mrsnezbit2219
      @mrsnezbit2219 2 роки тому +4

      Are you in USA? Here in EU there are plenty of 30 years war reenactors, here are the late 1600 that are not common, like 1670-90, never seen represented exept from venice Carnevale hahah

  • @sarah-phillips
    @sarah-phillips 3 роки тому +117

    My dad always said “black is the new black” as his fashion advise. I love learning the “every day” history of regular people. And yes, I agree - context is so important to remember and learn!

  • @saraquill
    @saraquill 3 роки тому +73

    I know stays contribute a lot to period posture. You donning the ruff shows me neckwear was another influence to the upright look.

  • @reneestarling9525
    @reneestarling9525 3 роки тому +42

    The word "petticoat" makes a lot more sense when you have the attached upper part!

  • @m.g.4446
    @m.g.4446 3 роки тому +78

    I love that you made this video! You're right, this period is underrepresented in costuming but it just looks so sharp

  • @nawabwajidalishahawadh1349
    @nawabwajidalishahawadh1349 3 роки тому +16

    I don't know how to phrase it, but the historical clothing you make feels so real.

  • @alejandramoreno6625
    @alejandramoreno6625 3 роки тому +30

    as a Mexican, I am super interested in this century, as it is the golden age of the Baroque. But the only thing we see is the dress of the Spanish court, which was insane. I am so curious to know how regular people dressed.

  • @trenae77
    @trenae77 3 роки тому +25

    You're buttoning and I hear Isabella of Prior Attire sigh "More buttons" :-D Honestly, clothing historians are so delightfully fascinating to me! The amount of research you put not only into making your attire accurate in appearance, but also exploring how it functions in day to day activities is impressive and a pleasure to watch! Please keep up the good work.

  • @a.munroe
    @a.munroe 3 роки тому +12

    I adore the 17th century silhouette, the ruff makes me anxious tho. So many ways I would screw it up.

    • @TheCoutureCourtesan
      @TheCoutureCourtesan  3 роки тому +7

      Hopefully my ruff video will help dispel some fears! They're not so bad!

  • @Rhaifha
    @Rhaifha 3 роки тому +52

    Interesting stuff as per usual! I've always disliked the Dutch protestant 17th century clothing, with the black and the starched collars, but you do make it interesting! You bring up a valid point that the sober black of that period was actually a show of wealth. But I guess I should've seen that from the abundant pearls on the ladies in portraiture from that period, haha.

    • @Rhaifha
      @Rhaifha 3 роки тому +10

      Also, that collar looks *very* uncomfortable? But then again, I don't like anything touching my neck. Do you find it uncomfortable?

    • @TheCoutureCourtesan
      @TheCoutureCourtesan  3 роки тому +21

      Yes, black makes for great contrast to set off pearls and jewelry! I don't find ruffs uncomfortable, but I don't mind things around my neck. They're still pretty flexible so it doesn't inhibit movement, just reminds you to keep your chin up.

    • @healinggrounds19
      @healinggrounds19 3 роки тому

      I had to wear one of those riffs like the one you are wearing in the second garment for a period film. It made me sweat so much! I don't know why. The costume itself was fine but as soon as the ruff was applied, I would sweat like it was raining! LOL. I can't do anything around my neck like a ruff, I have learned.

    • @tabletop.will.phillips
      @tabletop.will.phillips 2 роки тому

      @@Rhaifha I frequently wear these big ruff collars in reenactment/SCA contexts, and I've never found them to be annoying.
      It's the figure-eight style sleeve cuffs that are annoying - they totally get in the way doing anything.

    • @mrsnezbit2219
      @mrsnezbit2219 2 роки тому

      I think half europe also disliked protestants.. hahhaah

  • @kristenk5754
    @kristenk5754 3 роки тому +15

    The petticoat attached by the aglets is so pretty looking. I think I'm going to try that for my next fantasy outfit :o

  • @makeda6530
    @makeda6530 3 роки тому +24

    That petticoat is a look though... **tentatively adds onto monstrous to sew list in place of kirtle**. Bless you for another informative and stylish video. ( ⑉¯ ꇴ ¯⑉ )

  • @carolyng5235
    @carolyng5235 3 роки тому +22

    Thank you for another brilliant installment in your series of working and middle class womens' clothing videos! You continue to fill a large void in historical costuming. Well done!

  • @LaviniaDeMortalium
    @LaviniaDeMortalium 3 роки тому +30

    Glad this span of time is receiving some much-deserved attention. The clothing you've showcased is absolutely beautiful!

  • @making.history
    @making.history 3 роки тому +17

    Smashed that like button so fast for this rare 17th century content. Thanks!

  • @akechijubeimitsuhide
    @akechijubeimitsuhide 3 роки тому +9

    Tiny buttons, the enemy for many centuries :D Very beautiful and unique styles! The working class look reminds me of Brueghel paintings.

  • @m.maclellan7147
    @m.maclellan7147 3 роки тому +8

    That 'Upper class' high buttoned bodies reminded me SO much of the cassocks that "Brothers" wore. My Uncle was one for years before he left the order.
    Appeals to my Gothic soul ! Can't wait for the collar video.

  • @h.b.4058
    @h.b.4058 3 роки тому +47

    Thank you so much for the contextual acknowledgement. It struck me that this might have been one of the periods in which, apart from pants versus skirts, women's and men's fashions were much less divergent. Is this true? Do you think it can be attributed to anything other than attempting to live up to a more Puritanical ideal? Beautiful work, as always.

    • @TheCoutureCourtesan
      @TheCoutureCourtesan  3 роки тому +31

      Thank you! I do agree that you see a lot of similarities in women's and men's fashions during this period. But at least one Puritan writer in the 1580s actually hated when women's styles copied men's and made them look "mannish"!

    • @uarestrong76
      @uarestrong76 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheCoutureCourtesan haha oh boy ever the complaints of "mannish" women. tale as old as tiiiiime. sorry ye old buddy but this mannish woman gets shit DONE

  • @MizzKittyBichon
    @MizzKittyBichon 3 роки тому +7

    Even to this day, the color black has connotations of sophistication, elegance, and wealth. Tuxedos and "the little black dress" are prime examples of this.

  • @stephaniemiller5049
    @stephaniemiller5049 3 роки тому +8

    For the past year, I've really been interested in 17th century dress and I want to learn more. So glad to see you share this!

  • @annadonahue5752
    @annadonahue5752 3 роки тому +4

    this video did indeed pique my interest in the costumes of this era! I think the geometric shapes of the garments are really striking and elegant in a way, and the texture on your all-black gown makes it something super special. from the minimal knowledge I have of the early 1600s, it seems like this period had a lot of rapid and often destructive changes, not only the colonization and slavery in the Americas but in Europe as well with religious conflicts. you've got me thinking about how those cultural contexts and the attitudes that arose from them could be reflected in the dress of the time!

  • @beccitatefitzjohn7804
    @beccitatefitzjohn7804 3 роки тому +4

    In love with the silhouette of the waistcoat, and with the early 17th Century in general. Thank you for making this, from an Early Modernist!

  • @mikeymoody05
    @mikeymoody05 3 роки тому +8

    thank you do much for this video. I am working on a scarlet letter costume and have been unable to find videos on middle class clothing of the early 17th century. this really helped me to have a visual example.

  • @ubertuber3d
    @ubertuber3d 3 роки тому +8

    This period is one of the cusps of European fashion history, with only the fifteenth century seriously rivaling it IMO. Victorian menswear sometimes gets flak for its drabness but you'll never see the same said of it in this era for either sex because the dark colors were done so tastefully without infringing on the loveliness of the attire, really resplendent stuff.

  • @cadileigh9948
    @cadileigh9948 3 роки тому +9

    Thank you Ms Bullat .Good to see another sober and sensible presentation as they make information much easier to absorb. There is a time and a place for being trivial and silly but I do like facts and frivol in seperate baskets.

  • @toulousegoose1150
    @toulousegoose1150 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this video! I usually have to do 19th and 20th century for work, but this is my favorite era to sew clothing for! I usually go to events in 16-teens/early 1620's in honor of the Merrymount community. Today it's Quincy, MA.

  • @crissykloth3721
    @crissykloth3721 5 місяців тому

    You never should fear any competencia regarding your shape or wonderful cloths. What a smart equipment for all days? I would appreciate some of the details. So I am looking forward to catching the video to which you have made references. Oh thank you so much, I like it!!!! Crissy

  • @piatc4813
    @piatc4813 3 роки тому +6

    It's amazing how much work you put into your garments! I always love learning about dress from periods I usually don't pay too much attention to. Thank you 😊

  • @The_Viking_Highlander
    @The_Viking_Highlander 3 роки тому +5

    Wow, stunning work *chefs kiss. You had some patience with all those lacings, hooks and buttons!

  • @derekmoore1387
    @derekmoore1387 6 місяців тому

    These videos are invaluable for concept artists trying to understand clothing more thoroughly. Thank you! You wouldn’t happen to know of someone who does videos like yours about men’s historical clothing, would you?

  • @shortsweettoo
    @shortsweettoo 3 роки тому +2

    Wonderful work. Thanks for sharing.

  • @elizabethabbott9177
    @elizabethabbott9177 9 місяців тому

    I really enjoyed your video. I live in a a mediaeval hall house which has 'modern' chimneys of 1650. I am fascinated by the clothing worn by the past inhabitants of our farmhouse and the need for warmth and practical use on the farm. Thanks.❤

  • @kzisnbkosplay3346
    @kzisnbkosplay3346 3 роки тому +1

    I love these transitional styles! It's interesting how much overlap there is between men and women in this period! Thank you for providing context as well.

  • @sarahsherman-vandeventer4682
    @sarahsherman-vandeventer4682 3 роки тому +1

    This is the next best thing to seeing you in person. I learn something new with every rewatch. Your knowledge and skills are second to none!

  • @analunavelarde
    @analunavelarde 3 роки тому +1

    Everything looks gorgeous! I love the gray bodies.

  • @MonkeyMelVG
    @MonkeyMelVG 3 роки тому +1

    The cream/undyed wool jacket is gorgeous.

  • @AshLG
    @AshLG 3 роки тому +2

    I've been waiting to watch this until I came back from holiday and it was entirely worth it. What an interesting and elegant period of dress!

  • @beachgirl1947
    @beachgirl1947 2 роки тому +1

    I love these videos; so beautifully produced. What amazes me is how much pinning is done !

  • @moonargentum
    @moonargentum 3 роки тому +1

    It's great to see both working and middle class styles, and they are both so elegant! Thank you for a lovely video as always :)

  • @darknessfierce4209
    @darknessfierce4209 Рік тому

    wishing i could order the working class outfit, so practical- thanks for making the video!

  • @feelingkevinly
    @feelingkevinly 2 роки тому +2

    17th century, represent!!!

  • @aenorist2431
    @aenorist2431 3 роки тому +1

    Very peculiar style, had not seen that in video so far.
    Thanks for going to all that length, very informative!

  • @visasv.429
    @visasv.429 3 роки тому +1

    I love Orlando’s whimsical interpretation of this eras fashion in its movie

  • @FayeSterling
    @FayeSterling 3 роки тому +1

    This is horrifically tempting to do something more modern than 1530. Both of these outfits are beautiful, and I especially love the bodied petticoat you had for the working class garment!

  • @anniehosking2408
    @anniehosking2408 3 роки тому +2

    Another fascinating video. Thank you! I'm looking forward to seeing how to make a ruff.

  • @pilotswife06
    @pilotswife06 6 місяців тому

    I have an old book called The Real Mother Goose and some of the illustrations in it feature clothing from this era!! I love it!! (It’s the 1958 edition, it’s such a cool book, illustrations by Blanche Fisher Wright)

  • @angeliccow
    @angeliccow 3 роки тому +1

    amazing work as usual, i very much love the hats of the period, I am a sucker for a "silly hat"

  • @malakaragua702
    @malakaragua702 3 роки тому +1

    Love this channel 👍 clothes seem much more complicated but also more wonderful back then.

  • @TreScotts1Fan
    @TreScotts1Fan 3 роки тому +3

    As always, well researched, beautifully made. Carry on.

  • @annebennett313
    @annebennett313 3 роки тому +1

    I have been waiting for a video to come out about this time period for so long!! Thank you for providing one and doing such a wonderful job. Absolutely adore this period's fashion. Beautiful work.

  • @janetkizer5956
    @janetkizer5956 3 роки тому +1

    I'm fascinated by this period of fashion. Probably because it's covered so little in movies and so on.

  • @Julia-gy9bd
    @Julia-gy9bd Рік тому

    I would like to clarify; When you mentioned the violent removal of indigenous people, not everyone in this time period treated the indigenous people in this way. Some colonies were very respectful to the indigenous and bought the land. A great contrast of two different types of settlers is the Plymouth Colony versus the Jamestown Colony.
    Great video by the way!

  • @kittfrances
    @kittfrances 3 роки тому +1

    Great video Samantha, and yeah this period is so sadly neglected! Can’t wait for the ruff video, and also I would love a tutorial for those hats too, if you made them!

  • @gwengottlieb8501
    @gwengottlieb8501 Рік тому

    Well done! So thorough!

  • @rorygilmore2470
    @rorygilmore2470 2 роки тому

    so simple, yet so chic 😍

  • @stace0712
    @stace0712 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, as always! I'm really happy to see your channel growing, you deserve it!

  • @dis2666
    @dis2666 Рік тому

    Your skill at making garments is wonderful to see. Impeccable

  • @anaisabelsantos4661
    @anaisabelsantos4661 3 роки тому +1

    I'ts so true, I can't remember the last time I saw someone in an early 17th century decent outfit.

  • @penelope-oe2vr
    @penelope-oe2vr 3 роки тому

    One of my favorite clothing periods. Simple.

  • @zoopothecary
    @zoopothecary 2 роки тому

    Your channel is amazing! I just stumbled across it yesterday and I'm sad there isn't more. Beautiful organization and filming, and I really appreciate the interpolated art depicting contemporary details.

  • @bentonlikescommas
    @bentonlikescommas 3 роки тому +1

    Stunning. I love that the high bodied bodice is constructed like a doublet. It's fashionable crossovers like this and 18th century riding habits that show there is a lot of grey area in periods with highly gendered clothing.

  • @omaeve
    @omaeve 4 місяці тому

    I love this. I can’t wait to make the ruff. I made a lot of clothes for Williamsburg and for the Civil War reenactment when I was young I also did a lot of German clothing for the Shenandoah valley of Virginia. I guess you can tell. I’m from Virginia. I live in front Royal.

  • @caitlinrobertson3780
    @caitlinrobertson3780 2 роки тому

    That partlet is so neat and pretty I love it

  • @sheshewitchywellnez
    @sheshewitchywellnez 2 місяці тому

    Beautiful; thank you for sharing and a special thanks for including the disclaimer about the context of style and substance. I can appreciate the beauty and practicality of such garments as pliable tools and visual representations of the personas people used to project themselves as they would have liked to be seen or dismissed based on SES that often gets overlooked as so many people are quick to romanticize styles and dismiss the societal norms (substance) of how so many humans were mu#*er:d, mistreated, and maligned

  • @birdandcatlover5597
    @birdandcatlover5597 2 роки тому

    "Mostly black in my everyday life" same. Well, getting there. I need to make my own clothes, and am only now getting close to my adult height, so my wardrobe is currently thrifted mismatches. I prefer all black though.

  • @jellydarling1008
    @jellydarling1008 4 місяці тому

    Really useful info! Thank you!

  • @timebomb4562
    @timebomb4562 2 роки тому

    when you mention common people it got the song common people by pulp stuck in my head

  • @carriescostumescrochet
    @carriescostumescrochet 3 роки тому

    This was a nice video to watch while crocheting. Thanks.

  • @louiseogden1296
    @louiseogden1296 3 роки тому

    I'm not as busty as clothing manufacturers think I should be given my torso size. For some tops, particularly wrap ones, a partlet would be very useful (I just wear a singlet underneath).

  • @RevWarRev
    @RevWarRev 11 місяців тому

    So just one petticoat? And the purse at her waist - women weren't yet using 1 or 2 pockets tied at the waist under/between the petticoats? Great video!

  • @sophia__1509
    @sophia__1509 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! You look amazing. Was it all hand stitched?

  • @natashanese
    @natashanese Рік тому

    Thanks so much for this video! I am looking for some tips for an Anne Hutchinson Puritan style dress for a formal summer look in the 1630’s. Any tips or resources you could recommend?

  • @Jessiebes
    @Jessiebes 3 роки тому +1

    Its surprisingly charming & elegant. Is the hat fixed with a hat pin?

    • @TheCoutureCourtesan
      @TheCoutureCourtesan  3 роки тому

      Thank you! The hat is large enough to sit and stay comfortably on my head by itself.

  • @Mirando67
    @Mirando67 Рік тому

    Thanks. Great work!

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS 3 роки тому +1

    Oh - what a shame those pretty red shiny bows at the waist were hidden -by that remarkable beautiful black dress I'll admit - but I do love a bow - thank you that was very interesting.

  • @SIC647
    @SIC647 3 роки тому

    It is very interesting to see your upper middle class person. In Denmark the official garment of ministers in the state Lutheran church wear, is almost exactly that: A long black outer wool coat/gown with starched ruffs and white cuffs.
    It was initially just a nice version of what regular well-off people wore at the time, but then it hasn't changed for close to 500 years.

  • @LualaDy
    @LualaDy 3 роки тому

    thanks for the wonderful video! I really love the style from this period, and having an outfit like this is on my dream list!
    Now I have a better idea on how to approach it ^^

  • @elyssadougherty8255
    @elyssadougherty8255 3 роки тому +1

    This is my favorite time period for costuming and your outfits are so lovely. Where do you source your hats?

  • @toadhalltea122
    @toadhalltea122 3 роки тому +6

    Lovely as always!!! I adore that high-bodied gown (just got some cinnamon wool flannel from B&T this week for one of my own!!). And thank you for that context reminder at the end.

  • @Meandsushiroll
    @Meandsushiroll 2 роки тому +2

    I appreciate you pointing out the historical context of slavery

  • @blktauna
    @blktauna 3 роки тому

    beautiful work. just beautiful.

  • @newtkincaid5661
    @newtkincaid5661 2 роки тому

    Great Video. Were any undergarments worn under the linen smock? If not when did undergarments become a thing? Thank you in advance.

  • @jewbearidk
    @jewbearidk 2 роки тому

    i know it isnt really the focus of this channel, but could you please do something for the menswear of this period?

  • @sarahmwalsh
    @sarahmwalsh 3 роки тому

    What a terrific video! I was trying to figure out if there were any pads or supports on the hips and under the skirts, and it didn't look like there were - but the little peplum of the natural wool with the gores had so much buoyancy and lift! And the skirts of the upper class gown definitely swooped up a bit before falling to the floor. Is that really just the fabrics and the shaping from cartridge pleats and gores??

  • @stephenede-borrett1452
    @stephenede-borrett1452 2 роки тому

    Really excellent - thankyou

  • @NothingReallyMatters08
    @NothingReallyMatters08 2 роки тому

    I love the black jacket

  • @gwengottlieb8501
    @gwengottlieb8501 4 місяці тому

    I love this.

  • @animequeen78
    @animequeen78 2 роки тому

    Also, heeled shoes facilitated keeping your feet in the stirrups when riding horseback.

  • @artamarti176
    @artamarti176 3 роки тому

    Awesome video!

  • @nachtmerrie1616
    @nachtmerrie1616 3 роки тому

    I love your video!

  • @madelinemcswain2563
    @madelinemcswain2563 3 роки тому

    This is amazing! I am currently making a kirtle in inspiration from your Anne Boleyn video so this is great for another option :) I was curious if this is a shorter version of Elizabeth's effigy stays?! or if not did you use a particular pattern :) I tend to live out of my PoF7!

  • @previewqueen
    @previewqueen Рік тому

    I would be interested to know how exactly you altered the Tudor Tailor patterns to create these looks as I would interested in trying to recreate looks from this era.

  • @meghanmcgowan7748
    @meghanmcgowan7748 3 роки тому +2

    I've always been curious, with aprons from this time period why do they not stitch the corners to the waistband? I get that not gathering it saves labor and makes it easier to wash, but why not just sew the whole rectangle down with no gathering?

    • @VioletLady07
      @VioletLady07 3 роки тому +5

      It's because of you stitch the whole rectangle down, and then you tie the apron around your waist, you get a weird bunching effect. It's extremely unflattering (ask me how I know😉). The wider the rectangle, the bigger the bunches. Leaving the corners free looks nicer, and also allows you better freedom of movement.

    • @meghanmcgowan7748
      @meghanmcgowan7748 3 роки тому

      @@VioletLady07 Ah that does make sense

  • @annagararsdottir5432
    @annagararsdottir5432 3 роки тому

    Love the video! What music did you use?

  • @cameoshadowness7757
    @cameoshadowness7757 3 місяці тому

    THANK YOU!

  • @bohemiansusan2897
    @bohemiansusan2897 3 роки тому

    I found this to be interesting. I'm interested in clothing that is rebellious in a restrained way of all time periods.

  • @kimberlyperrotis8962
    @kimberlyperrotis8962 2 роки тому

    Do you know if any if the wool garments could be washed? I think it might have been possible if the wool fabrics were pre-shrunk before cutting and sewing, but I don’t know if this was actually done.

  • @raraavis7782
    @raraavis7782 3 роки тому

    I never noticed, but this style of clothing really isn't seen very often in the costuming community. Being German, it immediately reminds me of all the 'Dutch Masters' paintings, I've seen in my life.
    I always rather liked the somber elegance of this style. The garments always look very well made and very high quality, fabric wise, but there's nothing ostentatious or frilly about them. They're basically the historical equivalent to a custum made business suit of today.
    The ruff aside, it's a style I would feel very comfortable in...whereas I could never see myself wear a bustle gown or something...even though they're extremely pretty and all that.

  • @emmamartin6719
    @emmamartin6719 3 роки тому +1

    How do you keep hats on your head without pins? I can never manage it when I’m wearing a hair covering!

  • @kennethmoles4643
    @kennethmoles4643 Місяць тому

    I'm thinking you would be striking regardless of what year we're talking about.