Try using the ends from the standard Axial Scx24 shocks on your double barrel shocks. They will screw on and they give improved articulation and help alleviate binding issues.
Hey Adam, Great presentation! I am newly returning to the RC hobby and picked up a SCX 24 Gladiator this weekend based on your video and tips. I dove in and went all in on new shocks employing your tips. The performance increase is nothing short of amazing. Thank you sir!
I ordered a set of 51 mm shocks and I was having some binding issues I had to come back to this video and reference your steps removing the O-rings and running them upside down is a must
Hey buddy, thank you so much for your tips, I was going mad trying to setup my 48mn shocks on my C10, I was ready to give up and put the originals back on, but, thanks to this video I dialed in the shocks perfectly, your last rubber bands tip is awesome, I'm running them with the original springs, positioned on the rail, not the posts, rubber bands front and back, best of both worlds, stops the nose lifting and the back axle going under when climbing up and still gives me all of the extra travel going over obstacles, my C10 went from a decent crawler to an unstoppable force of the crawling gods!!!! Thanks man
Dude this is aggravating. We shouldn't have to put rubber bands and flip them upside down especially for something we pay are hard earned money for. Why are people acting like this is normal and ok. Maybe the company should just make something that works
Thanks for helping me out with the issues I was having with my rigs, and a bigger thanks for all the how-tos, tips and tricks to make a better crawler.
Another great video helping us new entrants to the hobby. Best channel by far for really clear explanation of simple thongs that make a real difference to performance. Sincere thanks
I love the one o ring idea. The looseness of the articulation makes perfect sense. I used your idea with the linkage as well-specifically the injora high clearance, 4 link linkage. I only run one o ring on my belly dragger's linkage. It really loosens up the articulation and allows the axle to move much more freely. Would love to hear your thoughts on this
Danngit, wish I seen this video sooner. I just got my first scx24 second hand, it already had these double barrel shocks and I HATE THEM. just got shorter oil shocks yesterday for it but now I'm thinking I want to try these tricks before I switch over. Thank you!
Hey Adam, I put the 43 mm RC Lions shocks on my sxc24 and the front of my truck looks great but for some reason the back of my truck is sagging down all the way to the body. Any suggestions?
You can try mounting those shocks to different locations to try to get the back end sitting level. You can also experiment with different springs/lengths. Sometimes you can use the harder springs that come with the shocks and trim them to a shorter length to get the height you want
Some great tips man, excellent video!! I found that my best set up with the double barrel shocks was actually to use the stock spring on them, works great at keeping the original ride hight and its really easy to adjust the hight too.. that paired up with the upside down shocks made a night and day difference for me
I also found the stock springs on telescopic shocks to be great! I use stock rear shocks and extended front shocks with the stock spring. That way when I come over an obstacle my front tires try to reach down much further so I get high centered less often and with the stock springs it doesn’t flip backwards. Using the long springs that come with the telescopic shocks REALLY decreases performance because the spring makes your ride height way way too high
I’ve found you don’t really need limiting straps as long as you run the double barrels in the rear and then regular shocks without springs up front. It’s built in limiting ;)
Hey Adam…. Just picked up a yellow JLU today. You’ve givin me an articulating brainstorm to apply. My real JKU will never flex like that, but thanks for the awesome goals you’ve presented. SOLID BRO 💪😎👊
I have a question I added the injora double barrel shocks (43mm) on my c10 and with the added length of the shocks the driveshaft rattles and is not smooth. It is like the universal joint is to steep how can I fix this?
Rigid springs are needed for those cases when you want to install shock absorbers not vertically, but at a very large angle, almost horizontally. Then it makes sense.
Great video man it was extremely helpful in my shock setup .I’m new to the scx 24 and crawlers in general I’m running long travel shocks upside down with no springs and I did the o ring trick it works so great now . Great info! 🤙🤘
Just ordered the Furitek brushed/brushless esc and brushless motor, that comes with the aluminum transmission case for my JLU to get rid of the Spektrum stuff. I hope it will pair with my Sanwa m17.
I changed where I mounted my 51mm shocks and brought the ride height down a bit more but I think ima try the no springs method cause it did increase the body height
Grandisimos tus videos,son inspiradores para un novato como yo. Quisiera saber que tipo de aceite usas para estos amortiguadores. Agradezco tu ayuda!! Saludos desde España!!
Hey so I just put injora high clearance links and emax servo an I have the injora shocks for my scx24 c10 and I think I like it more than my other rc cars all around fun just need to figure out a faster motor for bogging it
Great stuff, Adam! You sort of answered a question I asked on your "Flex Machine" Jeep Wrangler build presentation. I'm considering the newer (gray) SCX24 Jeep and want to make sure it flexes a lot but not sure if I want to "pancake" it. So I like the idea of the 43mm shocks with stock springs as a happy medium, but I'm also curious if I could run the double-barrel shocks with stock springs to gain the same result but still have insane articulation when going over bigger obstacles(?)Otherwise, what other shock would you recommend to get that result? And also without having drive shaft disconnect issues as I've heard that can be a problem. I plan on running either the Swamp Kings or ClawHammer tires with deep dish beadlocks to minimize tire rub too.
Hello from the south Sahara, lol on a real note great info for these little crawlers, a lot of useful stuff. Definitely might tweak a couple things and see if it makes a difference in performance compared to my current build.
Question, can I just install the shocks without upgrading everything else? I may not be able to upgrade everything at once so can I just upgrade the shocks?
All I do is put a small nut behind the the top of the shock.. seems to work perfectly.. if yourr ocd like me.. putting your shocks upside down is out of the question.. lol.. awesome videos man.. so much good information.
Hello, I’ve been watching your videos on how to build an indoor crawling course. I am a single father and have been getting into the rc world with my 3year old, he’s been in love since I got him his first rc. Now we have just in the back yard a kids pool in the basement for construction equipment. Not I just got him a mini losi. I want to build a track for that and a crawling course. I’m looking at the dead bolt but can’t decide the 24th or the 10th. I see what you did with the budget gladiator, I was wondering if you could give me some advice on what I should do the the deadbolt to get the most out of it without going all out like your did with the other gladiator.
Hey boss I upgraded my dif covers and few more things but after my dif covers and my dif came apart and I put it back together for some reason won’t drive anymore, I’m pretty sure I put everything back together right, it was a bit difficult to get servo back into dif but now it’s seems to be locked up or something I can’t figure it’s out. It’s brand new just did the upgrades now not working…
Please help me I just recently bought the front bumper that u have on the scrambler but when I put it on the mount it gets stuck on the turning thing please help🙏
Can you detail the shock setup on the C10, or maybe provide some links for the suspension? I like the idea of using the stock springs but adding more articulation a lot.
Sure! In this video, I am using the stock front shocks but mounted to the frame. It's a quick trick to add more axle drop without buying any new parts. In the back, I am running 43mm Injora shocks (amzn.to/3FP4lkf). These are also frame mounted to allow for lots of axle drop. But this is where stock springs come into play. I install the stock springs on the long travel shocks to keep the ride height down. Otherwise mounting these long shocks to the frame would severely lift the chassis, which we don't want. Stock springs, or no springs at all, counteract this.
Hey man how are ya. So I took this mod and used it on the links as well. If you test the twist of your rig in your hand, you can tell that near the end of the flex its starting to bind. That is the links Orings binding and stopping the full flex of these lil rigs. Took mine off and its unreal how far its able to flex now. Its pretty awesome.
Thank you for sharing. Just so happens I just purchased the same 3 Axial rigs for the family. This Video just answered the Questions I had regarding Lifting and Articulating the machines. The 43mm shocks have been ordered. I do have weight kits just need to get them installed. I guess the next step will be Tires. What Tires and size are you running on the Gladiator in this Vid. I really like the set up..
I've turned shocks upside down for many years on all my vehicles that will allow it.. because cheap ones from overseas leak, and although very minor, more weight is positioned down low.
What’s the best shocks for for crawling do u want lots of flex or just decent flex ? Trying to build a good crawler but struggling with the shocks I can’t figure out my suspension
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7:29 that REALLY helped me i had them as tight as could be. Also a question i had. the injora double barrels come with black and extra gold barrels what is the difference? im running the gold ones
Glad it helped! I am not sure if there is a difference in the extra barrels. I run the black ones on my Injora's. They look identical, just different colors.
My first rig is the wpl c24-1. The things i have had to do to Mod it to work right is insane. I want one of these. think maybe gladiator might be a better choice. Then just pull the springs out. Change Electronics, I have a controller an 30a esc brushed. And i have a 21g all metal waterproof dspower servo. Would that work ? I don't have a bunch extra parts cause i am new. So i have to be careful what i do.
Hi! I just bought the ford and the chevy trx4m traxxas for me and my son, with an upgraded servo to srt dt-06 as adviced by the dealer. May I ask if the shocks needs to be filled with oil? Some people say that they prefer the empty stock ones. If it l needs oil, what oil should I use? Is there a video on how to do this? I have some oil from my slash, but not sure if it’s the right one. Thank you so much!
These are just friction damped and do not need oil. There are some oil filled shocks available for the SCX24 though. If you do get an oil shock, I recommend 20wt oil. These little things don't need a very thick oil
In my experience it doesn't. Your spring selection will impact your dampening, but running them inverted or traditional shouldnt impact the dampening. I personally dont notice a difference.
How do your shocks drop so fast and easy. I have Hot Racing 43mm oil vs, with no oil. Mine won’t settle and drop slow. Do you have an oil wt you recommend for these little trucks?
I don't run any oil in mine. Only occasionally will I put some grease on the shaft and that's it. I rely on the weight of the axles to drop them quickly.
i used a mix of grease with a drop or two of oil making sure the mix coats the shock shaft slightly as i compress/play with the fully assembled shock, and use a small spacer between all shock-to-chassis placements. not on axle!
Question. I bought side steps for the wrangler, but I am missing those brackets that connect from the chassis to the side steps. How can I find those ?
It depends on the brand of sliders. You may be able to contact the company to see if they've got the plates. But I'm not sure if you can buy just mounting plates since all I've seen are complete kits.
Have you tried the injora carbon fiber lcg chasis with 43mm shocks? Im having problems when reversing it lifts the rear . And on forwards it pulls it down.
When you upgrade to 4 links, can you keep the original attachment for the upper links on the front axle or do you need to change the "fixture" to be able to screw both front upper links?
How do you get the wheels to drop without springs? My shocks just stay compress and extend a little bit with no springs, they do go to the full extent like yours does
Id put my scx24 on the double Barrels with springs cuz ill get alluminum axles for christmas. They might not be necessarie but my axle kinda cracked (its hold zogethere by glue) so i think the Center of gravity will be fine. Ill still try both with and without springs
I’m trying to modify a FMS Smasher for crawling. I really feel like those shocks are doing the opposite of your suggestions. I wonder if I should just remove the springs…
This tips are definitely going to be helpful. I’ve been working on mofo lcg gladiator build. No a single stock part left on this thing lol and the shocks are the one thing I’m not 100% happy with. Never used the 43mm shocks until this build and your tips with definitely help because I didn’t like how much they bind. Guess I’ll be back at the bench today working. On this thing for hours 😂
Thanks for watching! I have the mofo chassis on my deadbolt. I was having binding issues early but it turned out to be my linkage and not the shocks. Once I got the links right, the suspension worked great. That chassis has so many options for shock placement you should be able to find a spot for smooth operation easy enough. You can see how I mounted mine in the deadbolt build video.
Hey Ricky. Just reading some old comments. Have you tried spacing the upper mount out off the frame/mounting point. I often use two spare grommets from pivot balls or even an extra axle nut. Just that 1 or 2 mm of spacing off really helps. I have many sets of double barrels and on one or two sets I have also had to sand the lower barrel to get smoother action. Good luck
Does the JL have a 4 link up front? If so what brand? I have a deadbolt that I just installed the Injora 43mm. I have them mounted upside down, no springs and only 1 o-ring on the inside and I am still running in some slight binding on the front at full flex. I'm starting to think my 4 link is causing the binding.
I just wanted to say thank you for the tip I ended up getting the c r18 p Evo 2 speed gearbox and i couldn't be happier. Fits great with minor trimming. Now for a new motor I'm thinking the buzzsaw lol.
I just did a full build on my gladiator scx24, i went with the injura trans and driveshafts though, crappy thing is, the driveshaft was not tapped properly, and when i went to thread in the screw it snapped 🥲 it was on the trans side,...do you have any experience with this happening? if so do you know a solution? I was thinking i might have to drill it??? Keep up the great content Adam 🙂
Bummer!! I have experienced this but never had much luck retrieving the screw unfortunately. Here are some of the methods I was recommended: superglue the tip of your screwdriver to the broken screw, then when it dries try to remove it. Try threading a screw in from the other side to push it out. Finally, drilling it out may be the last resort.
Hey Adam, this is Adam! I’ve been watching your videos for quite some time and have gotten into 24th scale crawling. I entirely blame you! 😂. Since you have built many many rigs in the past, I figured I would as your opinion. What do you feel the best rig is to buy and custom build for crawling competitions?
Hey love your videos! I just installed all 4 HR dbl barrel shocks on my c10 and my drive shaft keeps falling apart. Will limiting straps fix this issue?
Are you running the o rings on your links? How about your lower shock mounts? I am trying to figure out how to get all of that awesome articulation Thanks!
Thanks for the tips. I am applying those modifications to my deadbolt. I am installing the long barrel Injora shocks at an angle. I get great articulation, but the driveshaft at the front comes off. Any suggestions?
Hi Adam, thanks for the great videos! I'm adding the 43 RC lions to my Deadbolt. What do you do to get max articulation from the links? I find that I can't "tilt" the links any more than about 40 degrees. Thus, how do you get almost 90 degrees of tilt (in some of your other videos, for example)? I have Injora high clearance aluminum links and I took one O-ring out from each connecting point for more articulation, but can still only get about 40 degrees. Thanks!
Try it with the 43mm shocks and one o-ring at the top of each shock mount and see how that does. You've done exactly what I would suggest for the links. Did you do the four link conversion in the front? That helps a lot too.
@@CapeCrawlers Thanks! I do have the 4-link conversion. So you don't do anything special for the flex of 90 degrees? Is that something special to the Gladiator (vs. the Deadbolt)?
Timestamps
Intro, tuning for your specific build needs: 1:20
Tip 1: 4:03
Tip 2: 6:04
Tip 3: 9:02
Bonus tip: 14:39
Try using the ends from the standard Axial Scx24 shocks on your double barrel shocks. They will screw on and they give improved articulation and help alleviate binding issues.
@@lyndonwortley6329 Great suggestion! I have never tried this but will have to give it a go!
Hey Adam, Great presentation! I am newly returning to the RC hobby and picked up a SCX 24 Gladiator this weekend based on your video and tips. I dove in and went all in on new shocks employing your tips. The performance increase is nothing short of amazing. Thank you sir!
That's awesome! Enjoy the 1/24! They are super fun and addicting. Thanks for watching!
What shocks have you got?
@@idan678 I have a power, hobby, 48 mm
love ur videos ur awesome builder
I ordered a set of 51 mm shocks and I was having some binding issues I had to come back to this video and reference your steps removing the O-rings and running them upside down is a must
Hey buddy, thank you so much for your tips, I was going mad trying to setup my 48mn shocks on my C10, I was ready to give up and put the originals back on, but, thanks to this video I dialed in the shocks perfectly, your last rubber bands tip is awesome, I'm running them with the original springs, positioned on the rail, not the posts, rubber bands front and back, best of both worlds, stops the nose lifting and the back axle going under when climbing up and still gives me all of the extra travel going over obstacles, my C10 went from a decent crawler to an unstoppable force of the crawling gods!!!! Thanks man
Thank you! I love to hear this!! Enjoy!
Dude this is aggravating. We shouldn't have to put rubber bands and flip them upside down especially for something we pay are hard earned money for. Why are people acting like this is normal and ok. Maybe the company should just make something that works
@@rerunracingit’s $16 it’s not that deep
@@DillonUthe your the problem
Thanks for helping me out with the issues I was having with my rigs, and a bigger thanks for all the how-tos, tips and tricks to make a better crawler.
Thanks for watching! Glad they helped!
i know right he did a great job!!!!
Another great video helping us new entrants to the hobby. Best channel by far for really clear explanation of simple thongs that make a real difference to performance. Sincere thanks
You make customization on these things so much easier. Thank you
That's the goal! Glad you feel that way. Thanks for watching!
I love the one o ring idea. The looseness of the articulation makes perfect sense. I used your idea with the linkage as well-specifically the injora high clearance, 4 link linkage. I only run one o ring on my belly dragger's linkage. It really loosens up the articulation and allows the axle to move much more freely. Would love to hear your thoughts on this
I was so disappointed by the long travel shocks until I watched this video and set them up properly. Thanks for the tips! It rocks now!
So glad it helped!
Danngit, wish I seen this video sooner. I just got my first scx24 second hand, it already had these double barrel shocks and I HATE THEM. just got shorter oil shocks yesterday for it but now I'm thinking I want to try these tricks before I switch over. Thank you!
I hope they help!
You have some banger setup videos for these little crawlers. Mine is crawling 10 times better now by utilizing your tips and tricks. Thanks, man.
Thank you! I’m glad to hear it!
Hey Adam, I put the 43 mm RC Lions shocks on my sxc24 and the front of my truck looks great but for some reason the back of my truck is sagging down all the way to the body. Any suggestions?
You can try mounting those shocks to different locations to try to get the back end sitting level. You can also experiment with different springs/lengths. Sometimes you can use the harder springs that come with the shocks and trim them to a shorter length to get the height you want
Some great tips man, excellent video!!
I found that my best set up with the double barrel shocks was actually to use the stock spring on them, works great at keeping the original ride hight and its really easy to adjust the hight too.. that paired up with the upside down shocks made a night and day difference for me
Thanks! Your setup is an excellent one. Since this video I’ve started doing that exact thing to the gladiator.
I also found the stock springs on telescopic shocks to be great! I use stock rear shocks and extended front shocks with the stock spring. That way when I come over an obstacle my front tires try to reach down much further so I get high centered less often and with the stock springs it doesn’t flip backwards. Using the long springs that come with the telescopic shocks REALLY decreases performance because the spring makes your ride height way way too high
I’ve found you don’t really need limiting straps as long as you run the double barrels in the rear and then regular shocks without springs up front. It’s built in limiting ;)
That’s a great setup. I ran that on the c10 for a while and it performed spectacularly
Hey Adam…. Just picked up a yellow JLU today. You’ve givin me an articulating brainstorm to apply. My real JKU will never flex like that, but thanks for the awesome goals you’ve presented. SOLID BRO 💪😎👊
Thanks for watching! Have fun!
Is that aluminum dust on that rear diff? 5:33.
Hey thanks man. Just got a deadbolt for "my kid" lol. He's 1. So your video helped me out big-time. Thanks
I’m sure you are breaking in the deadbolt for him until he’s ready to use it right? 🤣 have fun and thanks for watching!
I have a question I added the injora double barrel shocks (43mm) on my c10 and with the added length of the shocks the driveshaft rattles and is not smooth. It is like the universal joint is to steep how can I fix this?
Rigid springs are needed for those cases when you want to install shock absorbers not vertically, but at a very large angle, almost horizontally. Then it makes sense.
I used some of your tips and I gotta say it worked wonders on my c10 I really appreciate the awesome video!
i removed the o rings from top and bottom of the shocks and it made it worlds better. running 48mm on my c10. ❤
Great video man it was extremely helpful in my shock setup .I’m new to the scx 24 and crawlers in general I’m running long travel shocks upside down with no springs and I did the o ring trick it works so great now . Great info! 🤙🤘
Yo bro I used the way u put your suspension but my shocks are going to crazy up as if It had springs but they don’t can you tell me what’s wrong?
Sounds like you’re binding. Did you do the tips like the one o-ring up top?
@@CapeCrawlers yup everything even upside down I don’t know why it’s doing that it’s not bent or anything
@@CapeCrawlers NEVERMIND I DID THE RUBBER BAND TRICK AND IT WAS AMAZING I WILL BE SUBBING THANK YOU
Just ordered the Furitek brushed/brushless esc and brushless motor, that comes with the aluminum transmission case for my JLU to get rid of the Spektrum stuff. I hope it will pair with my Sanwa m17.
I changed where I mounted my 51mm shocks and brought the ride height down a bit more but I think ima try the no springs method cause it did increase the body height
Grandisimos tus videos,son inspiradores para un novato como yo. Quisiera saber que tipo de aceite usas para estos amortiguadores. Agradezco tu ayuda!! Saludos desde España!!
Thx for the tips 👍 I guess I will go find my long travel and give them another try
Let me know how it works out!
Thank you brother. You don’t know how much I appreciate this video .
Appreciate you watching!
Hey so I just put injora high clearance links and emax servo an I have the injora shocks for my scx24 c10 and I think I like it more than my other rc cars all around fun just need to figure out a faster motor for bogging it
Great stuff, Adam! You sort of answered a question I asked on your "Flex Machine" Jeep Wrangler build presentation. I'm considering the newer (gray) SCX24 Jeep and want to make sure it flexes a lot but not sure if I want to "pancake" it. So I like the idea of the 43mm shocks with stock springs as a happy medium, but I'm also curious if I could run the double-barrel shocks with stock springs to gain the same result but still have insane articulation when going over bigger obstacles(?)Otherwise, what other shock would you recommend to get that result? And also without having drive shaft disconnect issues as I've heard that can be a problem. I plan on running either the Swamp Kings or ClawHammer tires with deep dish beadlocks to minimize tire rub too.
Hello from the south Sahara, lol on a real note great info for these little crawlers, a lot of useful stuff. Definitely might tweak a couple things and see if it makes a difference in performance compared to my current build.
Thanks for watching!
OMg now i understand the limit straps rubber bands. Best explanation and example. THANK YOU
Really enjoy learning about this! Excited to put them on my build
Thank you for the tips. You saved my scx24 bronco!
Those Injora shocks come with spacers you can use to help make the shocks more vertical so they don’t bind. Don’t need to run them upside down.
I wonder if that's a new feature as I don't recall getting spacers with mine. Good tip though!
I got spacers with mine
Nice Adam, good tips on shock placement! Thanks for another great video!
Thanks for watching! Glad it helped 👍🏻
Awesome video this is exactly what im looking for suspension tuning thank you!
Question, can I just install the shocks without upgrading everything else? I may not be able to upgrade everything at once so can I just upgrade the shocks?
All I do is put a small nut behind the the top of the shock.. seems to work perfectly.. if yourr ocd like me.. putting your shocks upside down is out of the question.. lol.. awesome videos man.. so much good information.
Thanks for watching! I understand the ocd 🤣
That suspension is sweet, I'm definitely getting that set up for my Chevy C10 😁
Nice work Mate 👍
Thanks for watching!
Watching multiple suspension videos of yours, I do not see any mention of oil weight inside the shock... Do 1/24 shocks Not run dampening oil?
Hello, I’ve been watching your videos on how to build an indoor crawling course. I am a single father and have been getting into the rc world with my 3year old, he’s been in love since I got him his first rc. Now we have just in the back yard a kids pool in the basement for construction equipment. Not I just got him a mini losi. I want to build a track for that and a crawling course. I’m looking at the dead bolt but can’t decide the 24th or the 10th. I see what you did with the budget gladiator, I was wondering if you could give me some advice on what I should do the the deadbolt to get the most out of it without going all out like your did with the other gladiator.
I am trying to suss out link options and driveshafts for my Dead bolt. Where is snagletooth!?
Hey boss I upgraded my dif covers and few more things but after my dif covers and my dif came apart and I put it back together for some reason won’t drive anymore, I’m pretty sure I put everything back together right, it was a bit difficult to get servo back into dif but now it’s seems to be locked up or something I can’t figure it’s out. It’s brand new just did the upgrades now not working…
Please help me I just recently bought the front bumper that u have on the scrambler but when I put it on the mount it gets stuck on the turning thing please help🙏
Hi , lovin your video. What tires do you have on the yellow one? It looks really nice and soft, would love to give them a spin.
Can you detail the shock setup on the C10, or maybe provide some links for the suspension? I like the idea of using the stock springs but adding more articulation a lot.
Sure! In this video, I am using the stock front shocks but mounted to the frame. It's a quick trick to add more axle drop without buying any new parts. In the back, I am running 43mm Injora shocks (amzn.to/3FP4lkf). These are also frame mounted to allow for lots of axle drop. But this is where stock springs come into play. I install the stock springs on the long travel shocks to keep the ride height down. Otherwise mounting these long shocks to the frame would severely lift the chassis, which we don't want. Stock springs, or no springs at all, counteract this.
@@CapeCrawlers thanks! My scx24 motor has died so it’s time for some upgrades, your channel has been a great help!
Hey man how are ya. So I took this mod and used it on the links as well. If you test the twist of your rig in your hand, you can tell that near the end of the flex its starting to bind. That is the links Orings binding and stopping the full flex of these lil rigs. Took mine off and its unreal how far its able to flex now. Its pretty awesome.
Yes, great point!
We're did you get the wheel spacers for the yellow jeep those are awesome and thank for all the information keep making amazing videos
Thank you! I appreciate that! The JLU setup is MOFO RC heavy hexes on +5mm extended axles. It's probably my favorite width/weight combo!
@@CapeCrawlerscool thanks so much
Also we're do you get your flex blades from
If you upgrade the length of the shocks what else do you need to change out when installing them ?
Thank you for sharing. Just so happens I just purchased the same 3 Axial rigs for the family. This Video just answered the Questions I had regarding Lifting and Articulating the machines. The 43mm shocks have been ordered. I do have weight kits just need to get them installed. I guess the next step will be Tires. What Tires and size are you running on the Gladiator in this Vid. I really like the set up..
Thanks for watching! I’m running the Injora stamped steel beadlock wheels and LGRP trail king tires.
What size shocks should I get for my scx24 heel gladiator I don’t know what size the shocks are so I don’t know to get a 45mm or 51mm
I've turned shocks upside down for many years on all my vehicles that will allow it.. because cheap ones from overseas leak, and although very minor, more weight is positioned down low.
What’s the best shocks for for crawling do u want lots of flex or just decent flex ? Trying to build a good crawler but struggling with the shocks I can’t figure out my suspension
What kind of axles do you have on those? I'm trying to look for extra wide axles.
Excellent video! Thanks for taking the time. I will try some of your tips.
Thanks for watching!
GREETINGS, EXCELLENT VIDEO, WHAT MODEL IS THE YELLOW TRUCK FRIEND AND WHAT SCALE IS IT, I WOULD LIKE TO BUY ONE EQUAL TO THAT,AND WHAT BRAND IS IT? EXCELLENT VIDEO, THANK YOU 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
thanks man, that helped alot,and you have done a great job,showing how and why, outstanding, keep crawling :)
Thanks for watching! Glad it helped!
Did you have to use longer driveshafts?
7:29 that REALLY helped me i had them as tight as could be. Also a question i had. the injora double barrels come with black and extra gold barrels what is the difference? im running the gold ones
Glad it helped! I am not sure if there is a difference in the extra barrels. I run the black ones on my Injora's. They look identical, just different colors.
@@CapeCrawlers ok thank you
As limiting straps black hairties look more "mechanical" style! Very nice suspension tipps! Now i search for real low speed deflect working shocks.
Thanks for watching!
My first rig is the wpl c24-1. The things i have had to do to Mod it to work right is insane. I want one of these. think maybe gladiator might be a better choice. Then just pull the springs out. Change Electronics, I have a controller an 30a esc brushed. And i have a 21g all metal waterproof dspower servo. Would that work ? I don't have a bunch extra parts cause i am new. So i have to be careful what i do.
Great vid, was wondering where you bought the shocks on the yellow jeep?
They are RClions from Amazon: amzn.to/3ZsxrNn
Hi! I just bought the ford and the chevy trx4m traxxas for me and my son, with an upgraded servo to srt dt-06 as adviced by the dealer. May I ask if the shocks needs to be filled with oil? Some people say that they prefer the empty stock ones. If it l needs oil, what oil should I use? Is there a video on how to do this? I have some oil from my slash, but not sure if it’s the right one. Thank you so much!
These are just friction damped and do not need oil. There are some oil filled shocks available for the SCX24 though. If you do get an oil shock, I recommend 20wt oil. These little things don't need a very thick oil
@@CapeCrawlers Great! I will check what shocks will make as an upgrade for the trx4m. Thank you so much!
How does the upside down shocks effect dampening if at all?
In my experience it doesn't. Your spring selection will impact your dampening, but running them inverted or traditional shouldnt impact the dampening. I personally dont notice a difference.
How do your shocks drop so fast and easy. I have Hot Racing 43mm oil vs, with no oil. Mine won’t settle and drop slow. Do you have an oil wt you recommend for these little trucks?
I don't run any oil in mine. Only occasionally will I put some grease on the shaft and that's it. I rely on the weight of the axles to drop them quickly.
i used a mix of grease with a drop or two of oil making sure the mix coats the shock shaft slightly as i compress/play with the fully assembled shock, and use a small spacer between all shock-to-chassis placements. not on axle!
Good tips! I think mofo sells little spacers too just for that purpose
Question. I bought side steps for the wrangler, but I am missing those brackets that connect from the chassis to the side steps. How can I find those ?
It depends on the brand of sliders. You may be able to contact the company to see if they've got the plates. But I'm not sure if you can buy just mounting plates since all I've seen are complete kits.
Have you tried the injora carbon fiber lcg chasis with 43mm shocks? Im having problems when reversing it lifts the rear . And on forwards it pulls it down.
I have not tried that chassis before. It sounds like it could be something over tightened in your drive line. Wheel nuts or a steering knuckle maybe?
Great video brother very good tips, I like that you go straight to cover the information. Keep up the good work.👍👍👍👍
Thank you! If you've got any suggestions or requests for more info, please let me know!
Does the wrangler have oil filled shocks? Or does it just stay bottomed out. Thanks
It does not. Just stays bottomed out.
Just subbed up Looking forward to more content. I am obsessed with the smaller scale crawlers.
Awesome, thank you! The 1/24's are so much fun and super addicting.
I love your ultra-soft tires!!
Me too! That squish is so satisfying
When you upgrade to 4 links, can you keep the original attachment for the upper links on the front axle or do you need to change the "fixture" to be able to screw both front upper links?
Stock servo mount can be threaded on both sides so you can keep it.
@@CapeCrawlersThanks for the reply, I appreciate
Is your gladiator on portals and high clearance links?
Are those wheel spacers? If so what size
Rubber bands! Love it one steel cable like 1/5 scale!
How do you get the wheels to drop without springs? My shocks just stay compress and extend a little bit with no springs, they do go to the full extent like yours does
Sounds like a binding issue. You could try lightly sanding the shock shaft in none of the tips in this video worked
Id put my scx24 on the double Barrels with springs cuz ill get alluminum axles for christmas. They might not be necessarie but my axle kinda cracked (its hold zogethere by glue) so i think the Center of gravity will be fine. Ill still try both with and without springs
Best thing to do is try all the options and see what you like! Tinkering is the best part 👍
@@CapeCrawlers Yeah defo gonna do that. Might aswell try on Stock springs
What drive shaft should I run for the front on the gladiator so it doesn’t pop out like the stock one?
It's not a driveshaft length issue. You can fix that with a limiting strap setup. Check this out: ua-cam.com/video/2cFlJfdcZj8/v-deo.html
Hey Adam, I am wondering if you know. Does the Injora 43mm Aluminium Threaded Tele Shock Absorber Damper for 1/24 fit the CR-18P? (Trail Hunter)
You would need to run them without the pivot hardware. The screws on the T-hunter are bigger and wont fit through the pivot balls on the scx24 shocks
@@CapeCrawlers Thanks mate, much appreciate the info!
I’m trying to modify a FMS Smasher for crawling.
I really feel like those shocks are doing the opposite of your suggestions. I wonder if I should just remove the springs…
I typically remove the springs right away. I did the same with my FCX's
This tips are definitely going to be helpful. I’ve been working on mofo lcg gladiator build. No a single stock part left on this thing lol and the shocks are the one thing I’m not 100% happy with. Never used the 43mm shocks until this build and your tips with definitely help because I didn’t like how much they bind. Guess I’ll be back at the bench today working. On this thing for hours 😂
Thanks for watching! I have the mofo chassis on my deadbolt. I was having binding issues early but it turned out to be my linkage and not the shocks. Once I got the links right, the suspension worked great. That chassis has so many options for shock placement you should be able to find a spot for smooth operation easy enough. You can see how I mounted mine in the deadbolt build video.
Hey Ricky. Just reading some old comments. Have you tried spacing the upper mount out off the frame/mounting point. I often use two spare grommets from pivot balls or even an extra axle nut. Just that 1 or 2 mm of spacing off really helps. I have many sets of double barrels and on one or two sets I have also had to sand the lower barrel to get smoother action. Good luck
On your yellow wrangler. Are you running extended links on your front end. That way you can run a longer shaft?
Nope, linkage is stock length, as is the drive shaft. I use a rubber band for a limiting strap and that helps keep the driveshaft in tact on hills.
@@CapeCrawlers I have a deadbolt and it appears be running a shorter front shaft. I tried switched to the medium. But that was too long and bound up
What brand and size tires are you running on the Rubicon? Love the way it looks!
RC4WD scamblers
Does the JL have a 4 link up front? If so what brand? I have a deadbolt that I just installed the Injora 43mm. I have them mounted upside down, no springs and only 1 o-ring on the inside and I am still running in some slight binding on the front at full flex. I'm starting to think my 4 link is causing the binding.
Yes it does; injora aluminum with only one o-ring at each mounting point. It makes it pretty loose, but it will flex like hell!
Hello, do you happen to know where I can get a 2 speed transmission? I am trying to customize my 1/18 glacier k10. Thank you for your help.
Check out FairRC. They're selling the motor/gearbox combo from the CR18P evo and the FCX24. One of those may work for you.
I just wanted to say thank you for the tip I ended up getting the c r18 p Evo 2 speed gearbox and i couldn't be happier. Fits great with minor trimming. Now for a new motor I'm thinking the buzzsaw lol.
wich wheels and rims did you choose for the yellow one? It looks amazing
I run the rc4wd stamped steel beadlocks and scrambler tires. It’s a great setup!
@@CapeCrawlers thx! now I see what you‘ve done here
u turned them around for more broad
What tires are those on the blue Jeep? Those look sick an I wanna put them on my c10
They are LGRP trail kings. You can save 10% on their products with my code CAPE10 too 👍🏻
@@CapeCrawlers Thank you, just ordered me some 🔥
I just did a full build on my gladiator scx24, i went with the injura trans and driveshafts though, crappy thing is, the driveshaft was not tapped properly, and when i went to thread in the screw it snapped 🥲 it was on the trans side,...do you have any experience with this happening? if so do you know a solution? I was thinking i might have to drill it???
Keep up the great content Adam 🙂
Bummer!! I have experienced this but never had much luck retrieving the screw unfortunately. Here are some of the methods I was recommended: superglue the tip of your screwdriver to the broken screw, then when it dries try to remove it. Try threading a screw in from the other side to push it out. Finally, drilling it out may be the last resort.
@@CapeCrawlers Thanks Adam!
Hey Adam, this is Adam! I’ve been watching your videos for quite some time and have gotten into 24th scale crawling. I entirely blame you! 😂. Since you have built many many rigs in the past, I figured I would as your opinion. What do you feel the best rig is to buy and custom build for crawling competitions?
Thanks for watching! In my opinion the c10 or deadbolt is the best base for a serious performer.
Hey love your videos! I just installed all 4 HR dbl barrel shocks on my c10 and my drive shaft keeps falling apart. Will limiting straps fix this issue?
Thank you! Yes, limiting straps should get you sorted out 👍🏻
What size tires and what brand tire are you running on the yellow jl ? Looks awesome
RC4WD scrambler tires. I think they're ~62mm?
Are you running the o rings on your links? How about your lower shock mounts? I am trying to figure out how to get all of that awesome articulation Thanks!
I run one o ring at each mounting point of the links
@@CapeCrawlers Thank you! I have been really enjoying your videos. Keep it up!
Thank you for making these videos I find them really helpful
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the tips. I am applying those modifications to my deadbolt. I am installing the long barrel Injora shocks at an angle. I get great articulation, but the driveshaft at the front comes off. Any suggestions?
You need some sort of limiting strap. I like to use rubber bands and loop them around the linkage behind the servo and up over the body mounts.
@@CapeCrawlers Great, thanks! I'll try that.
Hey where did you buy all the little 3d printed trim parts for the Gladiator? (Hinges, mirrors, etc)
Etsy for the most part. Adaptiv3 designs is my go-to shop.
hey man havin problems with my front drive shaft dropping out would the limiting straps help? thanks in advance and i love every vid
Thanks for watching! Yes, limiting straps should solve your issue. I like to use rubber bands. A lot of folks use fishing line.
@@CapeCrawlers Thanks a lot!!
Hi Adam, thanks for the great videos! I'm adding the 43 RC lions to my Deadbolt. What do you do to get max articulation from the links? I find that I can't "tilt" the links any more than about 40 degrees. Thus, how do you get almost 90 degrees of tilt (in some of your other videos, for example)? I have Injora high clearance aluminum links and I took one O-ring out from each connecting point for more articulation, but can still only get about 40 degrees. Thanks!
Try it with the 43mm shocks and one o-ring at the top of each shock mount and see how that does. You've done exactly what I would suggest for the links. Did you do the four link conversion in the front? That helps a lot too.
@@CapeCrawlers Thanks! I do have the 4-link conversion. So you don't do anything special for the flex of 90 degrees? Is that something special to the Gladiator (vs. the Deadbolt)?
I guess what I saying is what motor upgrades would you recommend
Check out the Mofo RC buzzsaw. It's much faster than stock but still crawls pretty well. Plus it's a direct bolt in!