Toyota Altezza RS200 Manual vs Honda Accord Euro R

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  • @user-qf7nm9tr8w
    @user-qf7nm9tr8w Рік тому +13

    daily driving a bone stock rs200z 6mt altezza right now best car ive ever owned. bullet proof motor and trans, good looks, LSD, and plenty practical. pulls like my wrx above 6k rpm and handles crazy well for stock suspension. gets tons of looks here in north america and I couldnt be happier. if anyone is deciding between these two cars or just deciding whether to get an altezza or not... do it!

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +6

      They’re certainly good, and agree they look great and have a nice feeling transmission. But having driven 1000’s of cars I can safely say anyone who thinks an Altezza is the best car ever hasn’t driven anything else haha

    • @user-qf7nm9tr8w
      @user-qf7nm9tr8w Рік тому +7

      that why i said best car I've owned, not best ever, read carefully before you respond. worked at a car dealership and definitely driven much better cars than some old toyota lol.

    • @tristanoce5233
      @tristanoce5233 5 місяців тому

      @@user-qf7nm9tr8w its a perfect first car for someone who wants something fast and reliable.

    • @Phasuuma
      @Phasuuma Місяць тому

      @@user-qf7nm9tr8w Probably different for those of us who live in NZ. Altezza's are extremely common and everybody shits on them (both because they get a bad reputation but also people love to abuse on the car itself)
      Most people don't pay any attention to them but I consider them to be the "better" version of a 6th gen civic where you get basically the same car but as a Toyota with RWD and other things that you won't get unless you buy a top-spec Civic with all the goodies.

  • @edmund111
    @edmund111 Рік тому +24

    That Altezza was modded for looks and only looks, all the mods do not aid performance one bit, in some circumstances it decreases performance, yes the wheels do look good on the car but why slam it and put tons of camber on, maybe lower it an inch but don't touch the camber, it was like that from factory for a reason!
    I've driven a number of stock Altezza rs200 manuals and they drive amazingly just don't touch the camber! The reason the rear kicked out so unpredictably was because of shoddy tyres, best tyres I've found for an Altezza or any 'performance' car in general are Bridgestone Potenza Re003's they just are so predictable.
    I have no idea what's going on with that transmission or short shifter but the throw of the stock transmission was perfectly fine and why get a short shifter when there are no other supporting performance mods?
    Also done right a 3SGE can sound absolutely amazing, chuck a good header and exhaust on and the noise is just incredible.
    Just my opinion. No hate at all love the look but just a bit confused at the mods.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Fair enough

    • @nathanaintsh1t
      @nathanaintsh1t 9 місяців тому +1

      i think the grinding was the release bearing i have it in 3rd.

  • @salteveline
    @salteveline Рік тому +15

    Altezza and Euro-R 🙂 my fave classic sports sedan ❤

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Lovely cars

    • @HaneezHaroon
      @HaneezHaroon Рік тому +1

      I couldn't decide between the Altezza and the Euro R 4 years ago. Decided to get the Euro R because the owner was dragging to close the deal. 4 years alter NO REGRETS at all.

  • @calvinsmith4310
    @calvinsmith4310 Рік тому +34

    I've driven two different 6 speed manual RS Altezzas, one is a bone stock example owned by an older gent. Both had problems for me going into 2nd gear, they just feel awkward. I've not driven a manual quite like it because they feel nice into the other gears, just that 2nd gear. I agree with everything that you said about the beams 3SGE. It just doesn't have that pull like the Honda VTEC in the higher revs. Great content again, enjoyable watch.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +2

      Thanks man and yeah have to agree

    • @rhubarbpie2027
      @rhubarbpie2027 Рік тому +2

      YES. The 1-2 shift as far as feel, and RPM drop are less than desirable.

    • @sahilakshay1098
      @sahilakshay1098 Рік тому +1

      Its the 2nd gear synchroes if u granny shift it will grind u have to kinda flat foot it its a pain with the old toyo gear boxes its either u get it or dont and it takes a while to get use to🤣

    • @Sy3dz99
      @Sy3dz99 5 місяців тому

      Couldn’t agree more. Until now I still hate the feel of going into 2nd gear, thought it’s only my car issue until I tested my friend’s altezza and I get the same issue when I shift early to second. It seems like the only way I can get the gear shift smoothly to second is flat out to 3.5K above then it will shift smoothly. Having a 4-1-1 header doesn’t help either cause the lower end isn’t much responsive, so I just have to get used to flat out in 1st just to get a smooth shift 😅 but I’m glad that this is the J160 gearbox issue happening with everyone else and not just me

  • @HaneezHaroon
    @HaneezHaroon Рік тому +5

    I daily drive an EuroR. It's a joy to hear that engine Roar. VTEC kicked in yo!

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Oh yeahh

    • @Jack-g2h3b
      @Jack-g2h3b 7 місяців тому

      The Honda Euro is a absolutely amazing car , it puts a lot of other cars to shame , loads of power, even stock, way better handling, I feel safe pushing my Euro to it's limites😅 it's capable of two hundred and thirty KLMs an hour stock

    • @Jack-g2h3b
      @Jack-g2h3b 7 місяців тому

      Honda Euro is the best, in every way, I just love driving it, I also love beating the Ford's and Holdens , puts the V8s to shame

  • @ProductofNZ
    @ProductofNZ Рік тому +62

    It would be great to revisit this match-up in stock Altezza form.

  • @SomebodysNephew
    @SomebodysNephew 7 місяців тому +12

    Gotta love the sound of that 3S-GE BEAMS.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  7 місяців тому +2

      I think it’s pretty average personally

  • @aidancollett3746
    @aidancollett3746 Рік тому +18

    Just another worn out altezza. They're all 20+ years old now. I've got a 2jzge manual one and you don't have those same issues

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +3

      Oh mate a 2jz one would be insane hhaa

    • @aidancollett3746
      @aidancollett3746 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife Slide into my dms. Based in Hamilton

    • @lucasn5460
      @lucasn5460 Рік тому

      Which trans you running?

    • @aidancollett3746
      @aidancollett3746 Рік тому +1

      @lucasn5460 j160. Custom adapter plate. Goes good just too shorter gears for the 3 litre

  • @babar545
    @babar545 Рік тому +2

    Big fan of the euro R cl7 myself . My friend had a black one with mugen parts . He also got the limiter removed

  • @zyoungson215
    @zyoungson215 Місяць тому

    I have put some miles on a BEAMS Altezza. Similar experience, they step out in strange ways. Could be the helical diff, they are unpredictable when they break loose. Aside from that they go well for a 2.0l.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Місяць тому +1

      Glad to hear you agree. They are good cars but I found The handling a bit unpredictable

  • @rhubarbpie2027
    @rhubarbpie2027 Рік тому +3

    Altezza is Love, Altezza is Life. ❤❤❤

  • @benjaminwingchun9665
    @benjaminwingchun9665 Рік тому +7

    Would enjoy the weight classes mentioned in the stats

  • @AlbertAuto
    @AlbertAuto Рік тому +1

    many write that toyota is bad with suspension, but they don’t understand that compared to Honda, they have a huge difference in stock, it’s just a different level, on the ring and EK9 civic leaves Altezza, that says a lot.
    Honda have long known

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Indeed

    • @AaroKo
      @AaroKo Рік тому +1

      I don't think altezza even has double wishbone suspension tbh
      Toyota hasn't ever been on the same level with the suspensions and road feel as honda. That never was the goal though. same goes for the people always saying every honda slow, they weren't ever designed to be fast in a straight line, rather on mountain roads and good race tracks ( not shitty nürburging that only requires the most power to perform good :D )

    • @arcanevoid9199
      @arcanevoid9199 Рік тому

      @@AaroKo altezza has double wishbone front and rear like most rwd toyota sedans from the era, and if nurburg was only about power the tesla plaid wouldnt have only been like 8 seconds faster than a ctr with 1/3 the power lol

    • @AaroKo
      @AaroKo Рік тому

      @@arcanevoid9199 if you are saying that tesla is good track car then that tells enough of your knowledge ;)

  • @stopspin
    @stopspin Рік тому +1

    How about a Pulsar vzr VVL( blue top cylinder head) or the very rare pulsar vzr N1 VVL (Red top cylinder head)?

  • @shakimbreen4870
    @shakimbreen4870 Рік тому +1

    U should see how we drive an altezza in the Caribbean
    VVT-I comes on at five thousand rpm

  • @Ballsack44
    @Ballsack44 13 днів тому

    Which one should I get as a replacement to the skyline?? Can’t decide if I want rwd or to go back to fwd

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  12 днів тому +1

      Neither tbh, I’d be looking at BMW 335i. These will feel slow compared with an RB or VQ

    • @Ballsack44
      @Ballsack44 12 днів тому

      @ bahaha my r33 was a single jingle rb20e. It was clean tho and looked fast but was slow as rocks its on my yt page.

  • @Druze_Tito
    @Druze_Tito 8 місяців тому

    You compare the Altezza on rain (RWD) vs Accord on dry road (FWD), which couldn't be more biased against RWD. There's no way a FWD will ever have better driving dynamics than RWD, especially a RWD with 50:50 weight distribution, with double-wishbone front and multilink rear.
    It must be this specific RS200 sample that made you feel that way about the model.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  7 місяців тому

      I’ve driven multiple Altezzas in the dry since and they’re all equally as average to drive. I mentioned in the video I drove the Euro R to the place we filmed these two cars on the same road as the Altezza in the rain and it was completely composed, the Altezza was awful in the dry and the wet. They’re simply not very good cars

    • @Druze_Tito
      @Druze_Tito 7 місяців тому

      @@KiwiCarLife You were complaining about the Altezza on wet road surface. You will be remembered as "that guy who claimed 50:50 RWD is worse than average FWD car". You obviously have a bias against the car or simply fail to see how capable it is or just can't drive RWD for some reason. I have an IS200 (same chassis) and it is a proper sports sedan with just the slightest anti-roll bar modification and Bilstein shocks on stock springs. The grip in turns is unreachable for any FWD that will 100% certainly understeer.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  7 місяців тому

      @@Druze_Tito I’m happy to be known as the guy that claims the Altezza is worse than the Euro R. But given I own an M3 with 50-50 weight distribution, I think your claim falls short.
      Just because a car has certain attributes on paper doesn’t mean it’s actually good in practice. And speaking of bias, you own an IS200 so ofc you’re biased towards it too!
      At least I’ve driven both (in the wet and dry outside of this video, my friend has a mostly stock one) so I actually know what I’m talking about from experience, not just “saying” FWD can’t be as good because you don’t own one.
      Watch my recent track day video and you’ll see my 130i (with a lot more power than your IS200) struggling to keep up with a Euro R, yet keeping up with a SUPERCHARGED altezza on coilovers and slick tyres. Enough said! Proof is in the pudding!

    • @Druze_Tito
      @Druze_Tito 7 місяців тому

      @@KiwiCarLife Claiming a FWD can be as good as an equally powered RWD says enough about your competence in racing. You just hate the Altezza, period. The M3 is a breed of its own, not for this conversation. On a twisty road, you will eat my IS200 dust in your Euro R. ;) And I will switch it to LPG just for the fun of it.
      Just because you have no clue how to drive an RWD doesn't mean those cars are equal to your favorite car. Obviously you have no clue how to drive an RWD. And if an Altezza can keep up with 3.0 NA - that's a compliment, even with a SC.
      I hope you have wet dreams about some FWD supercar. Oh, wait...Are there any?

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  7 місяців тому +1

      @@Druze_Tito you’re a funny man!
      “Equally powered RWD” - 154kW vs 162kW
      “I will eat your dust” - 118kW vs 162kW
      “You’ll switch to LPG” - weird flex
      “I have no clue how to drive RWD” - having owned Z4, 130i, ISF, M3 all with 2-3 times the power of your IS200 and reviewed multiple high hp RWD cars and slid them about on the channel.
      I don’t doubt your driving ability but to attack mine because I don’t like a car you own is just petty.
      My point there was that the 130i was a base test. The Euro R and Supercharged Altezza were similar speed, therefore a stock Altezza would be much slower.

  • @pass_the_flask
    @pass_the_flask Рік тому +9

    Short shifters that rattle like that aren't worth it (basically all of them), been there done that. It's typically because they use a stiffer bush at the shifter linkage which doesn't absorb vibrations from the trans and that rattles other components above it, like the gear knob. Rear end feel is prob a combo of the tyres+alignment. Just looking at it in the stills it seems like it has a bunch of rear camber

  • @bearmusic99
    @bearmusic99 Рік тому +3

    My 99 is300 (2jz) is a beautiful car
    Best handling car I’ve had other then my Toyota 86
    So easy to handle and controlling drifts is easy too !
    Hope you can find another and give it another shot
    The chassis and setup are built to handle like a breeze

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +2

      Yeah hopefully will do another video one day in the dry with a stock one

    • @bearmusic99
      @bearmusic99 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife keen to see it man ! Great videos bro

  • @jamesfifieldnz
    @jamesfifieldnz Рік тому +1

    You had traction control off the entire time you were driving the altezza, in the west of course it’s going to kick out, should’ve done them both in the dry.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Ah yes I’ll just change the weather on the one day I had to film then

    • @jamesfifieldnz
      @jamesfifieldnz 11 місяців тому

      Ah yes because you can’t turn on trc when it’s raining apparently 👍

  • @socks2441
    @socks2441 2 місяці тому

    i had a honda accord sir coupe years ago the H22A 2.2l DOHC VTEC engine was amazing. revved really high and you really felt that VTEC kick in. but it was fwd. i would take a reliable rwd toyota with lsd over that anyday. similar power too.
    i did love that vtec kick though. but technically you dont actually want to feel the vtec kick, you want you power delivery super smooth and linear. unless its for fun factor. then you want vtec. heck yeah.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  2 місяці тому

      I agree RWD is normally better, but in this case the Altezza has such an average engine and chassis, and makes so little power that you ain't gonna be sliding this thing no matter how hard you try (certainly not in the dry), there really is little benefit to getting the Altezza. If you want a proper RWD car, get a BMW.

  • @nuggplugg5863
    @nuggplugg5863 Рік тому +11

    Great video Liam! You see a heap of Altezza's about the place and I've always wondered what one like this drives like. You always manage to get some brilliant cars on the channel too, this one being a beautiful example.
    Although I've never driven an Altezza myself, your comments once you're back in the Accord resonate with me. Although I wouldn't mind some RWD fun from time to time, nothing beats being able to absolutely flog my 97 accord through some tight bends knowing exactly how the handling and steering will respond. Plus the sound of a Honda engine on VTEC can't be beaten ;)

  • @glopkilomilomj7656
    @glopkilomilomj7656 6 місяців тому

    One of the top rated jdm cars

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  6 місяців тому +1

      Which one?

    • @glopkilomilomj7656
      @glopkilomilomj7656 6 місяців тому

      Really it's dependable on the personal upgrades and tune ups but the Altezza RS200 has beautiful potential

  • @rew3809
    @rew3809 7 місяців тому

    I’ve seen that beams engine in an ae86 and had no idea what was special about it

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  7 місяців тому

      Yeah they’re good, but like amazing like some claim

  • @steves4164
    @steves4164 Рік тому +15

    I own in the same Altezza in blue, seemed as if the car hasn't been well looked after just by listening to it, cheap tyres, and likely needs a suspension overhaul based on the way it's handling. I'd love to drive a Euro R to see how they compare as I've owned a CL9 and thought it was nice, but needed the mods your old one.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +2

      Tbh it was probably one of the cleanest examples I've seen, just not set up for back road driving with bumps and hard corners

    • @steves4164
      @steves4164 Рік тому +2

      @@KiwiCarLife I guess a shiny exterior and well kept interior can still hide a lot of mechanical sins 🙃 cheers for the review anyway!

  • @saadatkhan8273
    @saadatkhan8273 Рік тому +2

    Compare the accord with a Toyota mark ii or mark x if u can find one cuz it will be quite interesting

  • @fishmonger5026
    @fishmonger5026 Рік тому

    love your channel bro keep going hard

  • @alanghee9520
    @alanghee9520 Рік тому +5

    Why don't you race them anymore like you use to

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Because it's illegal hahah
      Nah unfortunately with a lot of these videos I've been miles from a motorway or just short for time so couldn't

    • @alanghee9520
      @alanghee9520 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife oh I get it. I also have a 06 tsx kflash so I enjoy seeing what I can beat lol

  • @SPTV101
    @SPTV101 Рік тому

    Great video mate!

  • @craigauty6756
    @craigauty6756 Рік тому +2

    Wad the vvt-i working on the beams? Surprised you felt so much difference between how it feels compared to vtec

    • @arcanevoid9199
      @arcanevoid9199 Рік тому +1

      i mean vvt-i doesnt do much compared to vtec & vvt-li

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Yeah definitely running just fine. They just have quite a different powerband, and it didn't help I couldn't really get it near the top end coz of the shift knob racket

    • @craigauty6756
      @craigauty6756 Рік тому +1

      @@arcanevoid9199 it has dual vvt-i but no lift, just duration

    • @AaroKo
      @AaroKo Рік тому

      @@craigauty6756 they are completely different systems even though k-series has both of them

    • @craigauty6756
      @craigauty6756 Рік тому +2

      @@AaroKo yes i think the 2zz is closer in design to vtec with cam lift and duration on both intake and exhaust cams?

  • @oshaeamoyent7817
    @oshaeamoyent7817 Рік тому +1

    May that altezza set up......look like a stands set up......I owned a euro r dc5 type r etc I will choose my rs200 L tune altezza any day over them ...... altezza is the best driving car out there bro

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Fair enough, I wouldn't

    • @oshaeamoyent7817
      @oshaeamoyent7817 Рік тому +2

      @@KiwiCarLife the honestly truth is u are a honda guy 👦 can tell .....the altezza hands down is the the best 👌 car track or drift feel better look better

    • @dannduva7440
      @dannduva7440 Рік тому

  • @PulsarOCE
    @PulsarOCE Рік тому +1

    Well you need to try the celica ss3 it has a 3sge beams in it and rwd and u feel the vvti

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Aye?? All celica's are FWD haha and you do realise VVT-i is not like VTEC

    • @enuf_psi6967
      @enuf_psi6967 Рік тому +2

      It’s cracks me up when people say you can feel the VVti 😂

    • @PulsarOCE
      @PulsarOCE Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife not all the celicas are fwd you have the gt4 witch is awd and turbo lol you guys don’t feel the vvti cuz u got a 4 door altezzas 9.5 to 100 celica ss3 6.5

    • @PulsarOCE
      @PulsarOCE Рік тому

      @@enuf_psi6967 mr2 you have eather got a old 3sge in that with 140hp or u got a beams so idk how u don’t feel vvti pull u but I sure can in celica

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      @@enuf_psi6967 HAHAHAH same aye VVTL-i has an obvious kick, VVT-i has absolutely nothing. And bro you said the celica is rwd hahah

  • @FZERO20
    @FZERO20 Рік тому

    I put my TSX on some nice suspension and tires and boy does it drive amazing. Especially with a rear sway bar. I took a really aggressive corner once at a high speed and I even got the rear end to swing out a bit somehow . It was so fun

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +2

      Yeah man with a few mods they’re great

  • @elimciver738
    @elimciver738 Рік тому +1

    You need to compare your euro r to a b18c integra

  • @Jack-g2h3b
    @Jack-g2h3b 7 місяців тому

    The Euro is by far the best, smaller better looking and way better handling and speed, the two point four is unstoppable, it bets a lot of V8s yes a bit of work done but he'll it's a four

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  7 місяців тому

      Yeah I’d agree I think it’s the better car

  • @nikolaiylimys
    @nikolaiylimys Рік тому

    You said Honda has vtech and altezza does not, but the altezza 3sge has variable valve timing on both cams

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Vtec is completely different to vvti

    • @nikolaiylimys
      @nikolaiylimys Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife vtec is literally variable valve timing combined with lift electronic control

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +2

      Yes and that fundamental difference makes vtec completely different from vvti. Literally every single car to come out after 2000 ish has some form of variable valve timing, vtec (at least in a performance setting like in the k20a) is completely unique

    • @AaroKo
      @AaroKo Рік тому

      @@nikolaiylimys to be exact vtec was originally just lift control on B-series engines and after that many other 90s honda engines. and that was it all the way before the introduction of K-series that had both vvt and vvl and it's actually called I-Vtec on their valvecovers ;)

  • @Hani777
    @Hani777 Рік тому

    I got an is300 sportcross aka altezza gita... idk but with the 2jz the car is a beast

  • @ztikmaen
    @ztikmaen Рік тому +12

    Pretty hard to find any respectably modified Altezza, would've been nice to try one with decent tyres and suspension :/

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +3

      Frankly this one was very tastefully done, one of the nicest I've seen, it just wasn't set up for back road driving. And the owner knows that. He's not like me looking to absolutely blast down a back road

  • @beerustheblack2846
    @beerustheblack2846 Рік тому +2

    A few 1uz powered altezzas are running around and by all accounts absolutely transform the car. Can be done with the j160 as well.
    I owned a manual rs200 in blue and loved the way it handled and felt but another 50hp would have made it miles better. The v8 or straight 6 solve all of the issues I have with it

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Yeah agree

    • @jameshavenga4998
      @jameshavenga4998 Рік тому +1

      Two of my buddies have ditched the boat anchor 2j for UZs in their IS300s and wow what a change. 10/10 engine choice for a swap

  • @azzetlagames8745
    @azzetlagames8745 11 місяців тому

    Looks like you had the snow mode on in the Altezza? 😅

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  11 місяців тому

      It’s manual they don’t have snow mode only the auto ones haha

    • @azzetlagames8745
      @azzetlagames8745 11 місяців тому

      @@KiwiCarLife Wrong!! I have a manual and it has snow mode Hahahaa.. Get your facts right!

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  11 місяців тому

      @@azzetlagames8745 this one didn’t and even if it did I certainly wasn’t in snow mode! I had traction fully off

  • @iamrokoh9243
    @iamrokoh9243 Рік тому

    Nice video Bro.
    what type of muffler does the altezza has on ?(Brand)

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Not sure sorry, 5zigen or something

    • @darrenray8144
      @darrenray8144 Рік тому

      It's a Fujitsubo Legalis R axle back.

  • @codeskhr4092
    @codeskhr4092 Рік тому

    shame you couldnt get the altezza up to the 7-8 000 rpm range thats were mine likes to sit when passing or really good acceleration

  • @fabianshamano5953
    @fabianshamano5953 Рік тому +1

    I own two Altezza RS200, never had an issue handling wise very predictable even when it goes sideways. I think that setup is just bad

  • @smittysav
    @smittysav Рік тому

    I need to know what kit is on the Altezza

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      It's like some factory option

    • @darrenray8144
      @darrenray8144 Рік тому

      Gita Neo front bumper and elegance sideskirts

  • @elsonsimbine9793
    @elsonsimbine9793 Рік тому

    I use Altezza and is weird that is acting like that. The car is amazing!

  • @konholio2
    @konholio2 Рік тому

    It would be interesting to see you opinion on the K20A6 and N22 trims of the Accord 7

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Done the n22, haven't been able to find an a6 het

    • @jsweeney1983
      @jsweeney1983 Рік тому

      K20a6 are pretty gutless, they've no torque and have no vtec cross over like other K-series. 155bhp in a car that heavy while lacking torque gets very tyring to drive, then there's the 5 speed box and fuel consumption. My cl9 has around 70 bhp more and is better on fuel. They really are a bad choice of engine for this chasis

    • @konholio2
      @konholio2 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife Thanks, I didnt find it at first.

    • @konholio2
      @konholio2 Рік тому

      @@jsweeney1983 Not everyone is looking for performance. I am just interested in how it drives rather how fast it is and if it feels like a lesser car because of the engine or all together. Otherwise there are forged con rods, so you should be able to run 1 bar boost if speed is the goal. You can also swap a proper k20 or a k24 in it.

    • @jsweeney1983
      @jsweeney1983 Рік тому

      @@konholio2 I've owned a few type s 2.0 litre including the k0z2 and k20a6. They're underpowered for this chasis and are not economical is the point I'm making. It's not about having high power its not fuel efficient and for that reason I don't see the point it in comparison to stock k24. They do take boost well but again money would be better spent on different version of the cl7 if your going to chuck a ton of money at it. I've converted 3 type s to k24a and it transforms the driveablity of the car not only in terms of power but fuel consumption. The 5 speed ratios are far to long and torque is practically non existing compared to the k24 with a 6 speed. I've dc5 cams and a type r gear set aswell as a stage 2 reflash and can average 7.5 ltr per 100 kilometres on my daily commute, I'd struggle to get anywhere near that with a z2 or a6

  • @Pieteros21
    @Pieteros21 Рік тому

    What spoiler is that on altezza ?

  • @goncalolourenco6989
    @goncalolourenco6989 Рік тому +15

    IS200 owner here and it feels really weird that the altezza would behave like that, must be the setup like you said.
    Also considering the other altezza and IS200 you drove seemed alright to you it must be something with this one.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Yeah think so aye. The IS200 was actually really good

    • @din3832
      @din3832 Рік тому

      Im very sure its the setup, i mean it looks bad ass with that tight fitment but that's just a compromise in the real world, you have no room for the suspension to work, and that means every single little imperfection on the road can throw you off balance.

  • @Driftboi825
    @Driftboi825 Рік тому

    Well the one u drove didn’t have a 2J in it so if u could find one maybe it will change your experience

  • @kasondemwansa1138
    @kasondemwansa1138 Рік тому

    you drove the altezza on a wet road .i believe cars loses traction on a wet surface ..the car handles great even on stock suspension ....

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      I’ve driven a lot of cars in the wet, this car was borderline dangerous haha

  • @Sy3dz99
    @Sy3dz99 5 місяців тому

    I believe this altezza is running a knockoff China Shifter, can tell from the length of the shifter. I’m running C’s Short shifter, and the shift is smooth like butter, better than stock. Also the rear suspension and alignment is definitely misaligned. It’s supposed to handle better than you did during light rain. You should repeat an altezza driving video when you can find one that’s in better condition than this for a fair comparison with euro R

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  5 місяців тому

      @@Sy3dz99 yeah I must find another altezza in stock condition

  • @salteveline
    @salteveline Рік тому +4

    Beams engine ❤

  • @fillusrahim-xy9ib
    @fillusrahim-xy9ib 11 місяців тому

    Maybe the altezza set up best for drifting 😁

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  11 місяців тому +1

      It’s horrible for drifting too tho that’s the problem haha, it’s set up to be parked in at a car meet and looked at

  • @LogieT2K
    @LogieT2K 5 місяців тому

    The beams 3S just doesnt have the soul the k series has

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  5 місяців тому

      Agree, it’s decent but the K series just sings

  • @19_UNITY
    @19_UNITY 9 місяців тому

    ill be honest and yes sorry for being late to the video, but its personal preference. Either way its a win win.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah ofc I personally prefer the euro r. I’ve not driven an altezza yet that’s impressed me, short of the v8 swapped one haha

    • @19_UNITY
      @19_UNITY 9 місяців тому

      @@KiwiCarLife yeah thats fair.

  • @alexanderdanielsson6049
    @alexanderdanielsson6049 Рік тому +1

    altessa the better car obv

  • @chrismartin5662
    @chrismartin5662 Рік тому +2

    sideways on your closed road again lol, nice one 👍

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Haha not intentionally this time!

    • @chrismartin5662
      @chrismartin5662 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife lol yeah right honest officer...

  • @IBOO57
    @IBOO57 Місяць тому

    Dear god that Euro R is tempting me to get one but being an old bastard I can't live without cruise control anymore. Kind of embarrassing I know..

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Місяць тому

      Yeah I know the feeling. It’s frustrating not having it.

  • @bcallahan4673
    @bcallahan4673 Рік тому

    try a nissan bluebird sss or primera sr20ve vs euro r similar engine

  • @egonspengler7967
    @egonspengler7967 Рік тому

    It's like you've read my JDM bucket list. Scratching Altezzas off the list i think

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Yeahh unfortunately it won't be on mine either

    • @jamessutton-smith4263
      @jamessutton-smith4263 Рік тому

      Don't disregard the altezza, the one in this video is a show car setup, mine is a track/fast road setup and is the best car I've had for driving through mountain roads

    • @AaroKo
      @AaroKo Рік тому

      @@jamessutton-smith4263 you haven't had any proper honda it seems ;)

  • @fazlybiz357
    @fazlybiz357 Рік тому +1

    altezza is the cheapest jdm rwd platform that can be tuned like its big bro supra. Designed by an ex ae86 engineer with double wishbone on all 4 wheels, rwd and engine just behind front axle for 50:50 weight distribution. The car in the video just need to be properly tuned, I drove one and I didn't get the unpredictable sideways. You are correct about the engine in sound department but its zippy enough for its generation. I guess if could swap a K series would make it perfect as 4 bangers is the way to go to keep the weight as balanced as possible.

    • @atom608
      @atom608 Рік тому +2

      every 3sge beams engine iv heard sounds like absolute garbage, people flog on hondas for sounding like crap but go to upper hutt on a friday and listen to the alteza's and they sound the defitionon of a fart cannon

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +2

      Yeah totally agree. A stock IS200 on re003's I drove 6 months back handled beautifully

    • @fazlybiz357
      @fazlybiz357 Рік тому

      @@atom608 aww c'mon is not that bad. It is decent enough by its own.

  • @spadgm
    @spadgm Рік тому +4

    Yep! give me the Euro R anyday!
    Good car control in the wet mate, I think I would have been in the shrubbery if I had tried that!

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +4

      Oh mate a lot of poo came out

    • @xenonsaccord4447
      @xenonsaccord4447 Рік тому +1

      I flew by a 2001 Usdm corvette at 120 kph, man lost his mind getting passed by an Accord in the wet 🤣

    • @spadgm
      @spadgm Рік тому +1

      @@xenonsaccord4447 lol

  • @skux93
    @skux93 Рік тому

    No dig, No roll common man

  • @thatguyben3128
    @thatguyben3128 Рік тому

    _maybe better called an Alterra_ 💡… _interesting review_ 👏🏼

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Why's that?

    • @thatguyben3128
      @thatguyben3128 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife ‘all terror’ … that’s how it came across 🤔

  • @abdulhakimng8034
    @abdulhakimng8034 Рік тому

    Toyota Altezza RS 200 Tuned by TOM'S JR 👍😊

  • @vajblue
    @vajblue Рік тому

    Basically this is an American TSX and IS. This is a reason I rather have a European Japanese car than a American Japanese car.

  • @Ballsack44
    @Ballsack44 Рік тому

    I want a euro r

  • @Caleb__main
    @Caleb__main Рік тому +32

    Still one of the worst sounding cars in my opinion

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +3

      Hahaha

    • @TheFatSandwhich
      @TheFatSandwhich Рік тому +13

      With the wrong exhaust set up(95% of the time) these sounds raspier and worse than a single cam civic with a straight pipe

    • @PulsarOCE
      @PulsarOCE Рік тому +3

      3sge sound good not the final gen tho gray no vvti and red top vvti sound amazing

    • @Sam-zc3oe
      @Sam-zc3oe Місяць тому

      With the Rong exhaust

  • @honda4185
    @honda4185 Рік тому +2

    I have owned a few Is200 and never had problem with gearing and the seats is good but for me the seats in is200 is to soft and is not nice in longer journes while in my ATR with thoose Cl7 Recaro seats is the BEST seats to go long journeys in and my back feels good in them also. Great video also 👍

  • @kotukumacky3299
    @kotukumacky3299 Рік тому +1

    He almost died in the Altezza 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

  • @TheFatSandwhich
    @TheFatSandwhich Рік тому +2

    I'm guessing those are some shiiiity tyres on that Altezza.

    • @KavinFan0803
      @KavinFan0803 Рік тому +6

      aggressive styling mods, overdone camber, fart cannon exhaust, and shitty tyres. Just what you'd want on an altezza that goes to skids every Friday night.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      I dunno I thought it was very tastefully done. Maybe u gotta see it in person

    • @TheFatSandwhich
      @TheFatSandwhich Рік тому +1

      @@KavinFan0803 that’s classic altezza drivers for ya

  • @user-wi9ng7fo4c
    @user-wi9ng7fo4c Рік тому

    Euro r on top

  • @The_Noticer.
    @The_Noticer. Рік тому +1

    Why give someone such a precarious car to drive. I wonder if he ever notices himself how dangerous it is..
    Can't wait to wind out my Accord again. It's got a busted RH axle and steering pump. /sigh.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      He just cruises around. I bet in the dry it would be fine

  • @rossdixon5050
    @rossdixon5050 Рік тому +1

    Altezza probably ruined by coilovers set too low & "drift setup" ugh people really ruin their cars so easily.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      It's not "ruined" it's just set up for a different driving style to us

  • @FeeeshEP3
    @FeeeshEP3 3 місяці тому

    No point in carrying out this comparison when one of the cars has been ruined.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  3 місяці тому +1

      That is fair, but having driven stock Altezzas since, the Euro R is just a better car in every single way.

  • @kakospecs9152
    @kakospecs9152 Рік тому

    Good comparison but No race!??? 👎🏼

  • @honda_maniac
    @honda_maniac Рік тому

    VTEC 4 life

  • @xp50player
    @xp50player Рік тому

    Transverse or longitudinal, not sideways/lengthways 🤦‍♂️

  • @thebalvenie757
    @thebalvenie757 Рік тому

    Accord❤

  • @rzaultra165
    @rzaultra165 Рік тому

    accord euro r , so remember gran turimo 4

  • @jezzalowe5121
    @jezzalowe5121 Рік тому

    ohh hell yeah

  • @HunterLord458
    @HunterLord458 Рік тому

    Seems you just don't have any luck with Altezza's being set up correctly lol

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Haha yeahh well at least not set up for my driving preference. One day I'll find a stock manual one hopefully

  • @iheartgs400
    @iheartgs400 Рік тому

    K24 swap Altezza that would be the dream.

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Ehh I think the altezzas issues go further than just the engine

    • @iheartgs400
      @iheartgs400 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife I’ll be honest I do miss my 08 Acura TSX CL9 6 Speed (Accord Type S) not as raw as your Euro R is but the K24a2 and the Accord chassis was amazing to drive more than the IS300 I had owned later. Fun fact the CL9 chassis here competed at SCCA Touring Car Championship and won it 3 times 2005, 2006, 2008.

  • @Earl_VTEC
    @Earl_VTEC Рік тому

    #K24 #Accord #HondaLove

  • @alexanderunknown8605
    @alexanderunknown8605 Рік тому

    Honda ftw

  • @raynaldobryan4878
    @raynaldobryan4878 Рік тому

    An accord is better to drive than an altezza lol wtf who tf is this guy 🤨 tezza is a jdm icon

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Yep and it's severely overrated. Honda handles better, has a better engine, and in the real world, is much faster too.

    • @raynaldobryan4878
      @raynaldobryan4878 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife i guess that's why the word is call 'opinion' 👍🏼

  • @daviddyson7359
    @daviddyson7359 11 місяців тому

    The stupid suspension, wheels and tyres fucked up the handling on the Altezza

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  11 місяців тому

      Seems like it, but even the engine and transmission still aren’t great

  • @neytkan
    @neytkan 9 місяців тому

    Vtec o beams

  • @maxxibro
    @maxxibro Рік тому

    Altezza sounds equally as good as vomit.

  • @skbored6667
    @skbored6667 Рік тому +1

    its just him he cant drive

  • @gpajic1987
    @gpajic1987 Рік тому

    Something not right with that Altezza, clearly

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому

      Well, it's just not set up for my driving preference

  • @victorwilks88
    @victorwilks88 Рік тому

    honda is the best
    try and review a 2010 civic si - 1.8

    • @zpe1200
      @zpe1200 Рік тому +1

      NZ never got a Si Civic, just normal type R imports.

    • @victorwilks88
      @victorwilks88 Рік тому

      @@zpe1200 thanks dude

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  Рік тому +1

      Yeah we got the 1.8 tho

    • @victorwilks88
      @victorwilks88 Рік тому

      @@KiwiCarLife hatch and sedan ? or try and get a civic sedan 2.0 sport with the k20

    • @The_Noticer.
      @The_Noticer. Рік тому +1

      Didnt the R18 in the US not even have intake VTEC like in Europe? It was like 118hp instead of the 138 it has here.

  • @sneed1208
    @sneed1208 Рік тому

    Altezza bros... I don't feel so good...

  • @thomascaseyhart4103
    @thomascaseyhart4103 Рік тому

    Altezza is to low with probably shit tires

  • @Aziz009-z6s
    @Aziz009-z6s 8 місяців тому

    Biased review. Just say you’re a Honda fan

    • @KiwiCarLife
      @KiwiCarLife  8 місяців тому

      Yeah I am, but this altezza was objectively not good. I’m yet to drive one that I prefer to a Honda.

  • @mrmcgraw3706
    @mrmcgraw3706 Рік тому

    Having had an altezza with those seats. They are horrible