I will say, from everything I’ve heard about squad tactics, including if most of your riflemen are running ARs, and one dude is running an AK, for your buddies to carry one AK mag just in case. While I have no personal experience, with this, I can’t help but think that with a designated shotgunner, that would be even more important. I know there’s these Velcro shell holders that can hold like 25 shells. Maybe if one of your buddies has some free real estate on his plates, he might be willing to put it on his back or something and you could top off from that? I have something similar on my scabbard for my Shockwave. Using the scabbard itself to host the ammo for the firearm stored inside. As well as James Reeves’ “tactical Fanny pack” which is just a pouch of loose buckshot that he puts to good use in his burn down videos. Idk, it’s just another trade off. More power shot for shot than almost any other fire arm, but also the capacity to carry less.
After reading this (I am and always have been a dirty civilian with unhindered access to FM and MCWP documents), I've appropriated this into me and my buddies SOP. One of my homies only runs AKs, usually in 5.56 for compatibility, so we all started carrying at least 1 or 2 extra 5.56 AK magazines. We all run the same patrol bags, Mystery Ranch ASAP or Blackjack 50. Has made our lives heavier but easier.
One guy with a AK in the squad how ridiculous he better sort his commie loving ass with a PSA or something... btw a 200 round SAW pouch will hold 50 shotgun shells, or 7 thirty round STANAG mags.
In perfect world it would be nice for your buddies to carry your extra ammo. This idea would not always be practical. I carry extra ammo of all 3 types in my backpack. Mostly 00 buck but also some slugs and birdshot. Why birdshot? It may not kill but is good for suppression. And then of course for anti drone work.
US use of the combat shotgun actually pre-dates the first World War. The US first issued shotguns to soldiers in 1900 during the Philippine-American War. They were issued again during the Pancho Villa expedition in 1916/1917.
@Souwth-bawston-is-fuh-luvahs weren't the germans complaining of us using shotguns right after ww1 because they were too brutal? Or am I thinking of something else?
Trained with the 870 in the army. Loading and shooting is a different beast. Especially on the move. Takes more practice. Because of the slower and smaller load/fire rate, I strongly believe transition training to a second weapon(pistol) is essential. I always taught my troops that if you’re not shooting it, you’re loading it.
@@bushboi absolutely, a mag change for, let’s say 8-10 rounds in a few seconds versus same round count individually…perhaps 10-12 seconds. That’s a LONG time in a firefight.
@@grumpyolesilverback7211 But most mag fed shotguns aren’t very reliable and having a jam is even worse than a longer reload, if it’s not something like a light strike it’s gonna take longer to clear.
@@Tree457 feed problems are usually type of shells being used. Just got to get to know your gun and what it likes to eat. Everyone has their preference, go with what you know and what you trust. Look at the SCAR. Good system, accurate and simple to use. Picky about ammo though.
Retired Army here, I own a MKA1919 the manual of arms is very similar to the AR just much larger. 10round magazines are much faster. That being said it's harder to keep up with magazines. The 870s magazine can't be dropped and lost in a hurry at night.
I’ve found a 200 round SAW pouch with the detachable dump lid to be the best shell pouch I’ve used so far. (The dump lid is just 2 flat pieces of elastic that overlap slightly in the center and you can shove your hand in to grab shells easily, but it keeps the shells from falling out) It’s definitely bulkier than shell cards and you would need make room on your belt. It carries a lot though! 🤘🏻
I use an old gas mask pouch with a Velcro lid on my belt. I think it might be a little lower profile than your saw pouch. But I like your idea. That sounds good with the elastic covers.
"Only takes one mistake" is accurate. Story time! Been doing bushcraft and stuff as long as I can remember. I'm 37 and don't remember a time where I didn't have access to a knife or axe or tomahawk or something sharp. That said, at age 35 I misplaced 2 fingers due to a half second mistake. Seriously kiddos, one moment can screw with you for a lifetime!
I remember training with a 12 gauge shotgun (a Remington 870) in the corrections academy. They taught us the two shot technique, firing from the shoulder to firing from the hip(it was a little strange for a first timer because of the placement of the feet, one shot and the recoil knocked everyone back a little). One instructor demonstrated a rapid fire technique. Great information and demonstration.
I was the shotgunner/breacher on my SWAT team (many years ago). The shotgun was and still is an intregal part of an entry team. We used frangible rounds to breach. Im still a shotgunner at heart.
Great video. I grew up on shotguns, even though I love shooting my AR's, shotguns are just a while different level of fun. I have a rig set up for shotgun, I like the shotgun cards, but I still have the metal side saddle. I'm realizing the benefits of the cards vs the permanent saddle. I also keep my 870 as my HD gun of choice, some people think shotguns suck, but that's their opinion. There's definitely no doubt in the power of a 12 gauge, especially when it's recommended by the Alaskan fish and game department for bear protection.
Shot cards are handy, but when you’re running, you might lose some shells with the rim downward. I’ve coated the interior of my elastic loops with carpet glue that you can get from most home supply stores. Once dried, it’ll hold your shells snugly,
I've been using a Gunner Solutions EZ8 caddy on my belt for speed reloads and double loads, and I like the Head On Tactical shell pouch for admin loads. The Head On Tactical pouch is really nice because it's two short flapped pouches that hold ten shells each, plus there are four elastic shell loops on the front for some extra rounds. For on the chest I've gotten away from detachable cards and I switched to Russian knockoffs of the SOE shell pouch instead. My opinion is that I don't want to waste time switching shell cards, but if I tuck the stock into my side and turn the gun I can reload 95% as fast from the chest rig/plate carrier. The pouch itself consists of two velcro cards attached to an open top pouch. Both are tethered to the pouch; one sits on the front and the other sits inside the pouch. Once the front one is empty you rip it off and it falls off, but you don't lose it because it's attached to the bottom of the pouch. Then you pull the second one out from the inside and it drops right onto the front to replace the first one. Three of them fit on a MOLLE placard and will work as a micro rig or on the front of a plate carrier for a total of 36 shells. I like side saddles but I prefer hard saddles like what Mesa makes. I find all detachable velcro saddles lose their elasticity and shells always slip down and either fall out when they're brass-down, or if they're brass-up they still slip and the rim gets caught in the elastic. I don't want my emergency speed reloads falling out or getting stuck when I need it. The Mesa side saddle is really tight, but I've never lost a shell from one. I see shotguns as the civilian's submachine gun. They're able to put a lot of lead down range, with the added ability to be used as a breaching round. It's also one of the more common weapons in the world, and you might not always have access to a semi auto rifle with detachable mags, depending on how laws change or where you live. It's worth getting one and learning to use it.
Pausing at 9:45 to ask: Were you issued a Remy or do you prefer it? I find that, especially with that SGA stock, I prefer a Mossberg to a Remington. Mossbergs only have a single holding tab for the rounds, making them easier to extract manually. They also have a screwed-on ejector as opposed to the Remi's riveted-in ejector, making them user-serviceable. Another question, what's your take on auto shotguns for a DSG? If you question the reliability, then I would pose the same question, but with a dual-mode shotgun such as a Benelli M3. Box mag or Tube mag is up to you to assume/talk about.
Trench, great video. Before ammo cards were the thing, we loaded our dump pouch with the shells. The dump pouch flap had a hand size cut to reach in and grab two shells to load yet preventing the loss of shells when moving. With practice, it too is fast. Using a LBE type system or chest rig attached to the pistol belt helps carry the load and allows for prone work. Shotguns are best paired with riflemen…indeed. A shotguner surrounded by rifleman walks calmly with a swagger. I keep my gun clean, no attachments, and a dump pouch with shoulder strap next to the gun for housework, so to speak. Slings…single point is best, but traditional sling works too. Nonetheless, shotguns for defense/tactical work need a sling.
Absolutely agree . Rifleman first. Shotgunner helps with things. I have a single point for this shotgun but took it off for video because of mic and I’m a noob
@@trench_grenade Hey Trench, I'm kind of a newb so I am sorry if this is a stupid question. Is wearing all those shotgun rounds on your chest a liability? I mean to say if someone shoots your vest, are the rounds liable to explode right in your face and torso?
@@BrockNessMonster1991 no sir, I have family members so I do not place lights on weapons at home. Personal choice. I use a low light on hat that sits next to my bed or on my head. As a SRT member, I used a weapon light because that situation dictated its need. Again, personal choice.
overall good info put your info on armour is kinda funny, 00 buck from a 12g at muzzle will have the same average energy as .308 winchester 150gr ,but spread over a wider surface area. with each individual pellet only carrying about 280 ft/lbs of energy individually. someone wearing NIJ certified lvl3 lvl4 would be fine.
Exactly, Newtown's law of equivalent force or something. For every action there is an equal opposite action. In order for a shotgun to fire enough force to cave a chest in from sheer blunt trauma, it would also have to break your shoulder or wrists shooting it. If shooting buck shot is just a push in your shoulder then it's just a push to their plate.
@MALICEM12 right, but not all the force from the bullet gets transfered to the gun when firing, otherwise the bullet would have no force left to leave the gun. think instead if the bullet never leaves the gun, for instance, a squib load. the gun will explode. thats definitely enough force to break someones chest, but with slugs not buckshot
shotguns are one of if not THE most versatile weapon out there. not counting the novelty loads, like dragons breath and flachettes and so on. but theres low brass birdshot, all the various shot sizes. then theres the higher brass. and all the various loads of buck shot. thene the many slugs and the buck and slug. i think that shotguns are gonna be crucial in future combat, not just in the traditional shotgun role, but also in the additional drone warfare that we are and will be seeing in future combat. shotguns are critical for a breaching team. and are just badass weapons. i was a shotgunner in my first group. i started my civilian training as a shotgunner
Thank you for being blunt in this block of instruction; to include the possibility of a slam-fire. This former infantryman appreciates that. Strike Hold!
Great tips, I never really thought much about which way the shells needed to be turned on the gun or that it really mattered, but that makes a lot of sense for faster reloading
Great video. Subscribed this morning after watching. Went and did some testing at the range with my rem 870. Did the shoot 2 load 2 and the top loading of different rounds without looking. Then when I did run dry, I'd practice switching to sidearm. I'd like to see you do some cqb tips with the 870.
My retinas detached so my 870 is my go to gun now. I have bought up a bunch of the Winchester 00 buck with green shells and black brass. S&B is a great round too.
Great video!Nice inputs! I think that at 100 yards you should aim at shoulder height to hit the target. I discover that the best rig to carry shotgun rounds is SOE Micro 12 gauge rig and the COP rig. You can carry 24 to 36 rounds. Add a general-purpose pouch or a SAW pouch on your belt and you can carry another 50 rounds easily.
I use a Mossberg 500 , with a 18 inch barrel , I love it , killed a lot of deer with it , works for me , been shooting like that for a lot of years , rest video . You have a 7 rd. Tube I will make this video a must see when I train my grandkids. I have a grandson that was with the 3rd herd , as a mortarman , I'm sure he could ad some hidsight to this , thank you. When you fire a shotgun gun down range , with 00buck , you are putting 45rds. Down range faster and cover just as much area as a fully auto M16 a1 , you cannot use up 1and 1/2 full mags , as fast as you can 5 rds. Of 00 buck. I myself , I use coyote rds.
Subbed. Really dig the concept of having a designated shotgunner in a squad. Never know when you'll need to do a shotgun breach on a door... or a trench full of dudes.
Lots of good stuff in there, keep them coming! Just one small note: a hard body armor, such as ceramic or steel can distribute the force of the impact on a large enough area to save the wearer, provided none of the pellets hit the unprotected parts. Think about it this way: when you shoot the gun, the shotgun itself will accelerate backwards and the shots will accelerate forward with practically the same amount of kinetic energy. The energy of the shotgun is transferred to your body through the stock (which is a relatively large area compared to a shotgun pellet), without causing any permanent damage. When the pellets hit hard body armor, they will transfer about the same amount of kinetic energy to the armor plate that was transferred to your shoulder when the gun was fired (minus the energy lost in flight due to drag). The surface area of the plates is even larger than the end of the stock, so the force of the impact will be distributed on an even larger area. The wearer would probably feel like someone kicked him in the chest, but wouldn't suffer permanent damage. Now if we look at slugs against soft body armor... yeah, a few broken ribs would be the least of your worries.
Good stuff, thanks man. I have an 870 marine magnum but am thinking about switching over to a Benelli m4. What’re your thoughts for a semi-auto vs a pump for a tactical application? Thanks
Outstanding video, I actually learned A LOT. Haven’t seen one out there on this topic and I haven’t thought about a designated Shotty. Didn’t know they aren’t drop safe! Also didn’t know to aim for the waist at 100m! I also completely forgot about the tabs to unload the tube! What do you think about shorty rounds and employing them? Also what do you think about employing a pistol grip shotty (to minimize size) with a sling to push it out, realistic or stupid? Also do you just have velcro slapped on the side of your receiver or is that a rig for the receiver shingle? Great idea! Thanks!
I've got an arborist ditty bag on my saddle that has an elastic band to keep it somewhat closed but i can reach in and grab stuff without any messing around. Id say it would be decent for carrying a lot of shells and acessing them fast james reeves style
Great video. I really appreciate you starting with the four principles. Don’t see that enough on gun videos/channels. One thing I think you didn’t talk about that I’d like to see/hear is round count. Counting down or however you do it or counting up but having the frame of mind knowing the round count and knowing how many you need to reload. Great video I look forward to watching your content!
A Fanny pack works great for carrying extra ammo, you can put it on even when you are wearing your normal battle belt, or for home defense you can put it on with pajamas ect
Pumps are nice too because you can get down a lot of the dynamics outside of recoil management with dummy rounds. Get enough to load the shotgun and your shotgun card and practice at home anytime you have the time.
@frankcastle8028 Dummy rounds are a small investment and they really pay off. You can video yourself on your phone and improve times and techniques. Shotgun loading skills deteriorate fast if you don't get some practice in
the BFD kill is a myth. part of armor rating is how deep BFD is, if your armor is rated for shotguns (which is damn near anything on the market) you will be fine. is it not better to carry a shorty shotgun only for breaching and a rifle as your primary? that seems to be the way basically everyone does it when they have the opportunity to. and i haven't seen any ukrainians running around with shotguns in the trenches.
If you literally only need it for breaching then yes make it into a key to the city version (check local laws Obv) if u are gunna run a rifle then it’s still good to have a designated Breacher with lots of ammo spread across team due to weight
@@trench_grenadewell yeah but thats soft armor not rated for 00 buck lol, big difference between soft armor and level 3 or 4 plates which are rated for .308 and AP 30.06 respectively, which have much more penetrating power than 00 buck which are balls and traveling far slower, meaning they have much less effective penetration.
Maybe its just the patch, but I think I saw your exact plate carrier up on an FB gear group lol. Good shit btw! Shotguns [depending on the opposing forces' kit] are usually the most effective "close" range weapons out there. Pair that with proficiency with a pistol at up to 50 yards, and you're a force to be reckoned with.
Great video man, just subscribed. I look forward to seeing you hit 10k or maybe even 100k subs down the road. And I'll be here for the Journey. From one fellow Gun nut to another.
I love my shotguns I’ve got a Turkish benelli clone and my all time favorite the Keltec KSG set up with a breacher muzzle device and bayonet spikes, a foregrip, with a Romeo 5.
for a smooth bore shotgun the slugs have the rifling built into them to get the twist for a rifles barrel shotgun you shoot sabot slugs that lock into the rifling for your twist... thankyou for your hard work... New Hampshire shooter
@@trench_grenade At least it's still in the family. I'm glad I found your channel. Hand guns are a no go for me in Canada ( except for antiques). I also like S&B: the price is reasonable and the recoil is mild.
I used to like the shell cards stuff and exposed shells on the chest like this, but in a practical environment is a dissaster. Some shells always end up falling off. Also they are are going to get dirty and bring with them dust and debris into your mag tube and chamber, adding to the mess. I transitioned to 12 round and 25 round condor pouches. Yes, they are a tad slower, but keep your rounds protected and in place. With a couple shell cards inside a mag pouch for quick replacements, albeit i'm not convinced on carrying so many rounds in the shotgun certainly makes it heavier and less maneuverable. I have velcro on the stock offhand side too, that balances better.
Blue Jean Operator also did a video on a shotgun as an anti-drone device when using birdshot for small-to-medium quadcopters. Another important duty for a shotgunner is to carry heavy duty bird shot loads and maybe an extra long barrel for bird hunting. Also, it is important to be able to protect your shells from reflecting the sun and to prevent it from getting dirty (especially if trench warfare may be a concern). So velcro shotgun cards on the front of the plate carrier are probably only viable in street/indoor operations.
Yes and no, from a civilians stand point, we aren't going into trench warfare. The nice thing about the Velcro cards are that they are cheap to replace, the permanent side saddles will wear out eventually and when they do, that's not an easy swap or replacement as that requires some disassembly. Obviously high quality side saddles will last a long time, and I think the solid ones have its benefits as well.
Why the long barrel for birds? I do skeet shooting with my 18.5" occasionally and do fine, muzzle velocity is negligible in shotguns between lengths aswell
@@MityLite Barrel length does indeed make a difference, there's a reason why shotguns typically have long barrels and it's not for a long sight picture. My 870 with it's bird barrel can keep bird shot and buckshot in tighter groups with the same choke compared to my 18.5" smooth bore barrel and my 18.5" barrel accepts chokes.
@@tidypog3272 I think the video will be primarily discussing why even when wearing body armor a shotgun will destroy you due to spread of pellets/ slug choice etc
As a 38year old with a Colt 6940 and mix master m4gery as my only ARs...I'm slightly offended...1st pick for Alaska would be my Galil Ace 762N but I would feel OK with the 6940 with 70 grain TSX
11:25 he said (regardless of the armor he’s dead) that’s a lie level 3 hard armor will not deform form that shot and that was doesn’t make into skin let alone through most combat fabrics. Everyone should probably unsubscribe from this guy bad info. Bad info.
First video I've seen of yours. Very informative. My Spidey senses tell me you were at least some sort of instructor in the USMC, most likely a knowledge hat from experience with them
@@trench_grenade 11B? I was 11C. The only time I ever used a shotgun was when there was guard duty at some ammunition supply area. And that was using a normal Winchester pump. No extended mag tube. And issued three shell only. I always wondered why bother carrying any gun at all.
@@trench_grenade copy! Can you do a video on shotguns equipmented with an optic and the appropriate/ realistic combat zero? Mossberg has released the 940 pro tactical, which is cut to receive micro holosuns. Let's talk about it.
Where in hell did you get trained to shoot two load two? Very bad and dangerous advice. You shoot until the threat is gone. Or until tie seek cover to reload. I don’t mean empty your gun but use judgment and do what fits. You give terrible advice
Load when you can. If you shoot one, load one if you can. Note, if you can. If you are in a active engagement, then you run it till it’s empty, then transition to the pistol. At that point you should be moving to cover to reload.
Love my 870, but sometimes the failure to eject saddens my heart and drives me crazy. I’ve honed (steel wool) out roughly the first 3.5 inches of the barrel and purchased an improved ejector claw. Also, polished other parts and still happens sometimes.
@@trench_grenade yeah and it’s dark outside for most of the 24 hours where I’m at. Also a stream light weighs like nothing. What if you run into a building w the lights off? The ‘real world’ gets dark very fast. That’s why I train for the real world. I run the exact kit you have here so don’t tell me I don’t know what that all feels like. Cringe logic
12 guage slug is accurate out to 220 yards (200 meters) easy. Some iron sights are tuneable, and learning the trigger pull will be required before moving to any optics or accessories.
@@scottedwards3403 wait, you mean to tell me that movie actors are incapable of learning how to distinguish live ammo from blanks? I know they are stupid but not that stupid
@@Airmanmx1 more so was joking about your comment of following basic gun safety and not pointing a firearm at others, kinda hard to do that when you’re supposed to point a firearm at a camera and pull the trigger. That being said though, the armorer is the main culprit of responsibility imo, and with him being a producer… he had a hand in hiring the armorer
Nice video! Tell please, do you advice to use barrel chokes, and why don't you prefer a pistol grip. Thank you! Your shotgun's camouflage is very cool and I think it works very well
I came back to this video to say they are now using shotguns in the trenches of Ukraine, some or mostly pumps, because of the mud a dirt for reliability... After a year of fighting they started using them not only are they super effective for close range, like the best they're also using them to take down drones, that are dropping little bombs and grenades on them, so they have a dual purpose now and they are the king of trench warfare and close combat proven war time and time again. One of America's oldest style guns the scatter Gat is Back Jack!
I will say, from everything I’ve heard about squad tactics, including if most of your riflemen are running ARs, and one dude is running an AK, for your buddies to carry one AK mag just in case.
While I have no personal experience, with this, I can’t help but think that with a designated shotgunner, that would be even more important. I know there’s these Velcro shell holders that can hold like 25 shells. Maybe if one of your buddies has some free real estate on his plates, he might be willing to put it on his back or something and you could top off from that? I have something similar on my scabbard for my Shockwave. Using the scabbard itself to host the ammo for the firearm stored inside.
As well as James Reeves’ “tactical Fanny pack” which is just a pouch of loose buckshot that he puts to good use in his burn down videos.
Idk, it’s just another trade off. More power shot for shot than almost any other fire arm, but also the capacity to carry less.
When I say Velcro, I mean they strap on with Mollie but fold up with Velcro. Just wanna clarify that real quick.
After reading this (I am and always have been a dirty civilian with unhindered access to FM and MCWP documents), I've appropriated this into me and my buddies SOP. One of my homies only runs AKs, usually in 5.56 for compatibility, so we all started carrying at least 1 or 2 extra 5.56 AK magazines. We all run the same patrol bags, Mystery Ranch ASAP or Blackjack 50. Has made our lives heavier but easier.
I find that anothr alternative to the tactical fanny pack is a chicom drum mag pouch. The wood toggles take some time getting used to tho.
One guy with a AK in the squad how ridiculous he better sort his commie loving ass with a PSA or something... btw a 200 round SAW pouch will hold 50 shotgun shells, or 7 thirty round STANAG mags.
In perfect world it would be nice for your buddies to carry your extra ammo. This idea would not always be practical. I carry extra ammo of all 3 types in my backpack. Mostly 00 buck but also some slugs and birdshot. Why birdshot? It may not kill but is good for suppression. And then of course for anti drone work.
US use of the combat shotgun actually pre-dates the first World War. The US first issued shotguns to soldiers in 1900 during the Philippine-American War. They were issued again during the Pancho Villa expedition in 1916/1917.
Hell ya
It was fine until ww1 ended. And then shottys were concidered too op
@Souwth-bawston-is-fuh-luvahs weren't the germans complaining of us using shotguns right after ww1 because they were too brutal? Or am I thinking of something else?
@@Mr-Eleven Marines in Belleau Wood goes chu-cunck...
@@Mr-Eleven yes but their complaint was ignored due to their use of chemical agents, flame throwers and high rate of fire MGs
Trained with the 870 in the army. Loading and shooting is a different beast. Especially on the move. Takes more practice. Because of the slower and smaller load/fire rate, I strongly believe transition training to a second weapon(pistol) is essential. I always taught my troops that if you’re not shooting it, you’re loading it.
Do you reckon one of the AR platformed shotguns would be better ? Something like that Gen 12 AR shotgun upper ?
@@bushboi absolutely, a mag change for, let’s say 8-10 rounds in a few seconds versus same round count individually…perhaps 10-12 seconds. That’s a LONG time in a firefight.
@@grumpyolesilverback7211 But most mag fed shotguns aren’t very reliable and having a jam is even worse than a longer reload, if it’s not something like a light strike it’s gonna take longer to clear.
@@Tree457 feed problems are usually type of shells being used. Just got to get to know your gun and what it likes to eat. Everyone has their preference, go with what you know and what you trust. Look at the SCAR. Good system, accurate and simple to use. Picky about ammo though.
Retired Army here, I own a MKA1919 the manual of arms is very similar to the AR just much larger. 10round magazines are much faster. That being said it's harder to keep up with magazines. The 870s magazine can't be dropped and lost in a hurry at night.
I nice to see someone approach the Shoot gun from an Infantry perspective rather then a CQB like everyone else dose.
I’ve found a 200 round SAW pouch with the detachable dump lid to be the best shell pouch I’ve used so far. (The dump lid is just 2 flat pieces of elastic that overlap slightly in the center and you can shove your hand in to grab shells easily, but it keeps the shells from falling out) It’s definitely bulkier than shell cards and you would need make room on your belt. It carries a lot though! 🤘🏻
Hell ya
I have two of those, you can fit roughly 75 shells each into one!
@@TheWolfElder if you succeed in emptying 75 shells then you’ve probably done your job for the squad, let alone doing that twice.
@@nicholasbreecher9315 Oh no, I'm just saying that's how many you can put into one of those pouches.
I use an old gas mask pouch with a Velcro lid on my belt. I think it might be a little lower profile than your saw pouch. But I like your idea. That sounds good with the elastic covers.
My brother in spaghettios, thank you everyone for the support. This is freaking awesome to see. Much more on the way regarding shotguns.
More practice on your reloads could help
I got my sh*t set up for shotgun, carrier vest and belt. I use Ithaca37 with slam-fire option. Best combat shotgun ever.
Just found you. Subbed. Iz good stuff!
Glad to see someone talking about scatterguns. Good stuff
Shotguns are based
@@trench_grenade You are indeed a man of culture.
@@Boosttackle get some my dudes !!
@The Frenzied Fenian Clint smith. Legend
@@trench_grenade Shotguns are the most American gun
"Only takes one mistake" is accurate. Story time! Been doing bushcraft and stuff as long as I can remember. I'm 37 and don't remember a time where I didn't have access to a knife or axe or tomahawk or something sharp. That said, at age 35 I misplaced 2 fingers due to a half second mistake. Seriously kiddos, one moment can screw with you for a lifetime!
Tell them again. They weren’t listening close enough. Sorry for the mistake but this is good input for our audience to hear.
"Misplaced" 💀
A mistake with a shotty is different. Safety first, and slow is fast.
Hey now, Tony Iommi cut two of his fingers off, and he made a career out of it.
I hope you find them.
I remember training with a 12 gauge shotgun (a Remington 870) in the corrections academy. They taught us the two shot technique, firing from the shoulder to firing from the hip(it was a little strange for a first timer because of the placement of the feet, one shot and the recoil knocked everyone back a little). One instructor demonstrated a rapid fire technique.
Great information and demonstration.
Thanks brother
Is there a video demonstrating this? I don’t think I fully understand.
I was the shotgunner/breacher on my SWAT team (many years ago). The shotgun was and still is an intregal part of an entry team. We used frangible rounds to breach. Im still a shotgunner at heart.
Which shotgun do you like best, pump or semiautomatic?
@@highsecurityagent8778 benelli semi auto was my favorite but I used a Remington 1100 for breaching. It was modified
@@philliphinkle2812 Thank you for responding.
I subscribed at "today we're discussing the shotgun In the modern rifle squad"
Great video. I grew up on shotguns, even though I love shooting my AR's, shotguns are just a while different level of fun. I have a rig set up for shotgun, I like the shotgun cards, but I still have the metal side saddle. I'm realizing the benefits of the cards vs the permanent saddle. I also keep my 870 as my HD gun of choice, some people think shotguns suck, but that's their opinion. There's definitely no doubt in the power of a 12 gauge, especially when it's recommended by the Alaskan fish and game department for bear protection.
Shot cards are handy, but when you’re running, you might lose some shells with the rim downward. I’ve coated the interior of my elastic loops with carpet glue that you can get from most home supply stores. Once dried, it’ll hold your shells snugly,
You need to do a video on the whole "aiming at the belt buckle" thing. That wasn't well explained but is interesting.
Working it
Minute of man
I am assuming to try for a groin shot, not a common place for body armor.
The best lesson I've learned is keep shooting until they're dropped and maybe an extra for good luck, don't ever assume one or two is enough
I've been using a Gunner Solutions EZ8 caddy on my belt for speed reloads and double loads, and I like the Head On Tactical shell pouch for admin loads. The Head On Tactical pouch is really nice because it's two short flapped pouches that hold ten shells each, plus there are four elastic shell loops on the front for some extra rounds.
For on the chest I've gotten away from detachable cards and I switched to Russian knockoffs of the SOE shell pouch instead. My opinion is that I don't want to waste time switching shell cards, but if I tuck the stock into my side and turn the gun I can reload 95% as fast from the chest rig/plate carrier. The pouch itself consists of two velcro cards attached to an open top pouch. Both are tethered to the pouch; one sits on the front and the other sits inside the pouch. Once the front one is empty you rip it off and it falls off, but you don't lose it because it's attached to the bottom of the pouch. Then you pull the second one out from the inside and it drops right onto the front to replace the first one. Three of them fit on a MOLLE placard and will work as a micro rig or on the front of a plate carrier for a total of 36 shells.
I like side saddles but I prefer hard saddles like what Mesa makes. I find all detachable velcro saddles lose their elasticity and shells always slip down and either fall out when they're brass-down, or if they're brass-up they still slip and the rim gets caught in the elastic. I don't want my emergency speed reloads falling out or getting stuck when I need it. The Mesa side saddle is really tight, but I've never lost a shell from one.
I see shotguns as the civilian's submachine gun. They're able to put a lot of lead down range, with the added ability to be used as a breaching round. It's also one of the more common weapons in the world, and you might not always have access to a semi auto rifle with detachable mags, depending on how laws change or where you live. It's worth getting one and learning to use it.
Wonderful shotgunning tips. Training is everything and a wielding a modern blunderbuss requires more. Keep the tactics coming brother.
Video coming today
I dig your kit. It works very well. I generally don't like velcro at all, but this is a very good use of it.
Just posted a teaser video about it
What do you mean, Velcro is the most tactical piece of equipment ✌️😃
I like this guy. No bullshit. Competent information based on experience. Good video, man. Thanks for the information.
Rock on
Pausing at 9:45 to ask: Were you issued a Remy or do you prefer it? I find that, especially with that SGA stock, I prefer a Mossberg to a Remington. Mossbergs only have a single holding tab for the rounds, making them easier to extract manually. They also have a screwed-on ejector as opposed to the Remi's riveted-in ejector, making them user-serviceable. Another question, what's your take on auto shotguns for a DSG? If you question the reliability, then I would pose the same question, but with a dual-mode shotgun such as a Benelli M3. Box mag or Tube mag is up to you to assume/talk about.
We used mossberg 500s
I’m the designated shotgunner in our group a proud position
Proudly serving lol
Serving up buckshot down range
So am I! I'm the designated shotgunner and point man.
In call of duty maybe
@@jamalwashium5387 fee free to join me at my local range big Hoss
Trench, great video. Before ammo cards were the thing, we loaded our dump pouch with the shells. The dump pouch flap had a hand size cut to reach in and grab two shells to load yet preventing the loss of shells when moving. With practice, it too is fast. Using a LBE type system or chest rig attached to the pistol belt helps carry the load and allows for prone work. Shotguns are best paired with riflemen…indeed. A shotguner surrounded by rifleman walks calmly with a swagger. I keep my gun clean, no attachments, and a dump pouch with shoulder strap next to the gun for housework, so to speak. Slings…single point is best, but traditional sling works too. Nonetheless, shotguns for defense/tactical work need a sling.
Absolutely agree . Rifleman first. Shotgunner helps with things. I have a single point for this shotgun but took it off for video because of mic and I’m a noob
@@trench_grenade you did great, but you are obviously a rifleman/11b.
@@trench_grenade Hey Trench, I'm kind of a newb so I am sorry if this is a stupid question. Is wearing all those shotgun rounds on your chest a liability? I mean to say if someone shoots your vest, are the rounds liable to explode right in your face and torso?
@@jimipickle8355 - so you’re not running a white light on the HD shotgun?
@@BrockNessMonster1991 no sir, I have family members so I do not place lights on weapons at home. Personal choice. I use a low light on hat that sits next to my bed or on my head. As a SRT member, I used a weapon light because that situation dictated its need. Again, personal choice.
Love the chest rig where do i pick one up
Slid right into a huge niche that a lot don’t talk about good stuff.
A 12 ga with Buck shot and slugs have always been my preferred weapon inside 100 meters.All weapons have their place. Great video. New subscriber.
overall good info put your info on armour is kinda funny, 00 buck from a 12g at muzzle will have the same average energy as .308 winchester 150gr ,but spread over a wider surface area. with each individual pellet only carrying about 280 ft/lbs of energy individually. someone wearing NIJ certified lvl3 lvl4 would be fine.
Exactly, Newtown's law of equivalent force or something. For every action there is an equal opposite action. In order for a shotgun to fire enough force to cave a chest in from sheer blunt trauma, it would also have to break your shoulder or wrists shooting it. If shooting buck shot is just a push in your shoulder then it's just a push to their plate.
@@MALICEM12will the .308 cave the chest in?
Yeah, that part is bullshit.
@MALICEM12 right, but not all the force from the bullet gets transfered to the gun when firing, otherwise the bullet would have no force left to leave the gun. think instead if the bullet never leaves the gun, for instance, a squib load. the gun will explode. thats definitely enough force to break someones chest, but with slugs not buckshot
You’re still screwed since your chest cavity is caved in
Shotgun has been my favorite weapon forever and glad to see someone serious about using it in combat. Great ideas.
I love shotguns. Used to pull the shot out when I was a kid and load finishing nails in as flechette rounds. Good times
shotguns are one of if not THE most versatile weapon out there. not counting the novelty loads, like dragons breath and flachettes and so on. but theres low brass birdshot, all the various shot sizes. then theres the higher brass. and all the various loads of buck shot. thene the many slugs and the buck and slug. i think that shotguns are gonna be crucial in future combat, not just in the traditional shotgun role, but also in the additional drone warfare that we are and will be seeing in future combat. shotguns are critical for a breaching team. and are just badass weapons. i was a shotgunner in my first group. i started my civilian training as a shotgunner
Thank you for being blunt in this block of instruction; to include the possibility of a slam-fire. This former infantryman appreciates that. Strike Hold!
Great video and excellent content. Has me reevaluating the scatter gun. It's also nice to be talked "to" and not talked "at". Subbed.
Great tips, I never really thought much about which way the shells needed to be turned on the gun or that it really mattered, but that makes a lot of sense for faster reloading
Great video. Subscribed this morning after watching. Went and did some testing at the range with my rem 870. Did the shoot 2 load 2 and the top loading of different rounds without looking. Then when I did run dry, I'd practice switching to sidearm. I'd like to see you do some cqb tips with the 870.
This is what motivates me right here. I’ll do a video on it brother
Great vid son. I have a nicely set up mossberg and next time to outdoor range😢
My retinas detached so my 870 is my go to gun now. I have bought up a bunch of the Winchester 00 buck with green shells and black brass. S&B is a great round too.
Hell ya
Great video!Nice inputs! I think that at 100 yards you should aim at shoulder height to hit the target. I discover that the best rig to carry shotgun rounds is SOE Micro 12 gauge rig and the COP rig. You can carry 24 to 36 rounds. Add a general-purpose pouch or a SAW pouch on your belt and you can carry another 50 rounds easily.
dropping a vid today
Outstanding
My reccomendation feed is slowly getting filled by Face-Covered Operators showcasing different types of guns, and I must say I am loving it.
Great tips and training bro. One saying and the things we trained was, "load what you shoot".
Shoot and load
I bought a Mossberg 590, thinking about making it my official loadout, I kind of love it 😍 also, what state is that? It looks awesome.
I don't watch gun shooting videos in general but stuck around a bit. Good job on bringing safety right at the start of the video
Thank you brother
I use a Mossberg 500 , with a 18 inch barrel , I love it , killed a lot of deer with it , works for me , been shooting like that for a lot of years , rest video . You have a 7 rd. Tube I will make this video a must see when I train my grandkids. I have a grandson that was with the 3rd herd , as a mortarman , I'm sure he could ad some hidsight to this , thank you. When you fire a shotgun gun down range , with 00buck , you are putting 45rds. Down range faster and cover just as much area as a fully auto M16 a1 , you cannot use up 1and 1/2 full mags , as fast as you can 5 rds. Of 00 buck. I myself , I use coyote rds.
I love mossberg pump guns. I prefer the tang safety, and I definitely don't need a loading gate.
Great explanation and kit set up.
Subbed. Really dig the concept of having a designated shotgunner in a squad. Never know when you'll need to do a shotgun breach on a door... or a trench full of dudes.
The Navy can show you how to handle a trench full of dudes.
Diversity matters mate.
@@samhellion lmao 🤣 😂 😆
Lots of good stuff in there, keep them coming!
Just one small note: a hard body armor, such as ceramic or steel can distribute the force of the impact on a large enough area to save the wearer, provided none of the pellets hit the unprotected parts.
Think about it this way: when you shoot the gun, the shotgun itself will accelerate backwards and the shots will accelerate forward with practically the same amount of kinetic energy. The energy of the shotgun is transferred to your body through the stock (which is a relatively large area compared to a shotgun pellet), without causing any permanent damage. When the pellets hit hard body armor, they will transfer about the same amount of kinetic energy to the armor plate that was transferred to your shoulder when the gun was fired (minus the energy lost in flight due to drag). The surface area of the plates is even larger than the end of the stock, so the force of the impact will be distributed on an even larger area. The wearer would probably feel like someone kicked him in the chest, but wouldn't suffer permanent damage.
Now if we look at slugs against soft body armor... yeah, a few broken ribs would be the least of your worries.
Good for small drones too
"... as well as medium and large..." ☆
"Tactical" shotguns sometimes work for drones, but they're not good for the role. Full length shotguns are good for taking out drones.
Great videoa love the content and the education. Keep up the great work
Good stuff, thanks man. I have an 870 marine magnum but am thinking about switching over to a Benelli m4. What’re your thoughts for a semi-auto vs a pump for a tactical application? Thanks
You will love the M4
Great video. This just popped up on my suggestions and I am glad it did. I subscribed and look forward to more. Keep up the great work!!
0:30 - You forgot the most important rule of gun safety: Always remember to have fun.
Who makes your chest rig and where can I get? Maybe I didn’t see it down in the comments. Would love to see a video on your gear set up
I have a video on this
Outstanding video, I actually learned A LOT.
Haven’t seen one out there on this topic and I haven’t thought about a designated Shotty.
Didn’t know they aren’t drop safe!
Also didn’t know to aim for the waist at 100m!
I also completely forgot about the tabs to unload the tube!
What do you think about shorty rounds and employing them?
Also what do you think about employing a pistol grip shotty (to minimize size) with a sling to push it out, realistic or stupid?
Also do you just have velcro slapped on the side of your receiver or is that a rig for the receiver shingle? Great idea!
Thanks!
I've got an arborist ditty bag on my saddle that has an elastic band to keep it somewhat closed but i can reach in and grab stuff without any messing around. Id say it would be decent for carrying a lot of shells and acessing them fast james reeves style
Great video. I really appreciate you starting with the four principles. Don’t see that enough on gun videos/channels. One thing I think you didn’t talk about that I’d like to see/hear is round count. Counting down or however you do it or counting up but having the frame of mind knowing the round count and knowing how many you need to reload. Great video I look forward to watching your content!
Great vid! I hope to see more shotgun content on this channel. It’s an under represented platform on UA-cam
Thanks brother
Outstanding video, and great vest setup.
Thank you kindly!
A Fanny pack works great for carrying extra ammo, you can put it on even when you are wearing your normal battle belt, or for home defense you can put it on with pajamas ect
Ageed not big on chest rigs, especially for shotgun rds. Anyone remember low crawl, my first deployment was Panama.
Bro are you in North Carolina, i grew up around Bragg those trees look very familiar. Especially those tall ass cellphone towers.
Well… my insane love of shotguns has led me here! Excellent vid. Sub’d
Thanks brother
just got my first 590a1. Didn't know about that unloading trick - thanks.
Gr8 Shotgun better than my 870
Pumps are nice too because you can get down a lot of the dynamics outside of recoil management with dummy rounds. Get enough to load the shotgun and your shotgun card and practice at home anytime you have the time.
Based
I do this often. It's great for building muscle memory
@frankcastle8028 Dummy rounds are a small investment and they really pay off. You can video yourself on your phone and improve times and techniques. Shotgun loading skills deteriorate fast if you don't get some practice in
the BFD kill is a myth. part of armor rating is how deep BFD is, if your armor is rated for shotguns (which is damn near anything on the market) you will be fine.
is it not better to carry a shorty shotgun only for breaching and a rifle as your primary? that seems to be the way basically everyone does it when they have the opportunity to. and i haven't seen any ukrainians running around with shotguns in the trenches.
If you literally only need it for breaching then yes make it into a key to the city version (check local laws Obv) if u are gunna run a rifle then it’s still good to have a designated Breacher with lots of ammo spread across team due to weight
I’ve seen bfd on soft armor kill effecting without pen but never seen ceramic personally . But have heard lots of accounts
@@trench_grenadewell yeah but thats soft armor not rated for 00 buck lol, big difference between soft armor and level 3 or 4 plates which are rated for .308 and AP 30.06 respectively, which have much more penetrating power than 00 buck which are balls and traveling far slower, meaning they have much less effective penetration.
@@Woodland_Warrior 100% I was skeptical of his claim that buckshot will kill effectively within 15 meters against any level of armor.
I've been using shotgun shell bandoliers and shell pouches.i haven't had a shell fall out yet. But those shell placards look like a nice addition.
I'd love to see more shotgun content bro
I think shotguns will be a cornerstone of this channel. Effective and fun to use
Maybe its just the patch, but I think I saw your exact plate carrier up on an FB gear group lol. Good shit btw! Shotguns [depending on the opposing forces' kit] are usually the most effective "close" range weapons out there. Pair that with proficiency with a pistol at up to 50 yards, and you're a force to be reckoned with.
Great video man, just subscribed. I look forward to seeing you hit 10k or maybe even 100k subs down the road. And I'll be here for the Journey. From one fellow Gun nut to another.
Hell ya brother. One can dream right
I love my shotguns I’ve got a Turkish benelli clone and my all time favorite the Keltec KSG set up with a breacher muzzle device and bayonet spikes, a foregrip, with a Romeo 5.
Nice video, very informative! Do you ever have problems with shells falling out of the cards when they’re brass down?
Yes when using in the field
@@trench_grenade Thanks. I guess I’ll practice running them brass up.
@@Holyman556 I run them brass up and I don’t have a problem with them falling out
for a smooth bore shotgun the slugs have the rifling built into them to get the twist for a rifles barrel shotgun you shoot sabot slugs that lock into the rifling for your twist... thankyou for your hard work... New Hampshire shooter
What do you think of the Beretta 1301?
I used to own the LTT version and regret selling it to a family member. It’s awesome
@@trench_grenade Would you rather have the Beretta in a combat situation or the Remington?
@@craigbennett1567 absolutely brother. It’s the best shotgun out there imo. Even over the m4
@@trench_grenade At least it's still in the family. I'm glad I found your channel. Hand guns are a no go for me in Canada ( except for antiques). I also like S&B: the price is reasonable and the recoil is mild.
@@ericferguson9989S&B makes great ammo. I’ve had great luck with all their ammo. My USP especially loves their 9mm.
I used to like the shell cards stuff and exposed shells on the chest like this, but in a practical environment is a dissaster. Some shells always end up falling off. Also they are are going to get dirty and bring with them dust and debris into your mag tube and chamber, adding to the mess.
I transitioned to 12 round and 25 round condor pouches. Yes, they are a tad slower, but keep your rounds protected and in place.
With a couple shell cards inside a mag pouch for quick replacements, albeit i'm not convinced on carrying so many rounds in the shotgun certainly makes it heavier and less maneuverable. I have velcro on the stock offhand side too, that balances better.
Subbed. I’ve definitely become a shotgunner. Favorite of all my tools in the safe.
Hell ya
Frank? Lol, I like your style
Blue Jean Operator also did a video on a shotgun as an anti-drone device when using birdshot for small-to-medium quadcopters. Another important duty for a shotgunner is to carry heavy duty bird shot loads and maybe an extra long barrel for bird hunting. Also, it is important to be able to protect your shells from reflecting the sun and to prevent it from getting dirty (especially if trench warfare may be a concern). So velcro shotgun cards on the front of the plate carrier are probably only viable in street/indoor operations.
Yes and no, from a civilians stand point, we aren't going into trench warfare. The nice thing about the Velcro cards are that they are cheap to replace, the permanent side saddles will wear out eventually and when they do, that's not an easy swap or replacement as that requires some disassembly. Obviously high quality side saddles will last a long time, and I think the solid ones have its benefits as well.
Why the long barrel for birds? I do skeet shooting with my 18.5" occasionally and do fine, muzzle velocity is negligible in shotguns between lengths aswell
@@MityLite
Longer barrels keep tighter patterns at longer distances.
@@toddk1377 Thats more of a choke choice than anything
@@MityLite
Barrel length does indeed make a difference, there's a reason why shotguns typically have long barrels and it's not for a long sight picture. My 870 with it's bird barrel can keep bird shot and buckshot in tighter groups with the same choke compared to my 18.5" smooth bore barrel and my 18.5" barrel accepts chokes.
Good explanations dude. Nice to see someone still preaching the good word of warfighting.
Shotguns are super under utilized and there are some amazing options out there.
Absolutely
This was a great presentation. Good job.
Pull the shotgun into your shoulder hard with your support hand. If you do it right you should ride the pump back through recoil.
very informative, thank you very much for the video, i love shooting shotguns myself, pump and semi auto
you should do more learning about the way ammo and armor interact
I think my next video will be dedicated to responding to your comment.
@@trench_grenade thanks. thanks for this one too.
IDK why people can't deal with shotguns. they're good and I am glad to see one getting love
@@tidypog3272 I think the video will be primarily discussing why even when wearing body armor a shotgun will destroy you due to spread of pellets/ slug choice etc
@@trench_grenade are you on on discord at all?
@@tidypog3272 considering making a channel discord. Since things are slowly coming together here
Cool video man, thanks for the tips! I’m also interested in some longer distance shooting
it would be nice to see shotgun sling options covered in a future video
Today
Awesome vid man, didn't know shooting procedures with a shotgun havent trained with one either, but this is off to a great start! Keep it real homie!
Love the content! Keep it up!
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As a 38year old with a Colt 6940 and mix master m4gery as my only ARs...I'm slightly offended...1st pick for Alaska would be my Galil Ace 762N but I would feel OK with the 6940 with 70 grain TSX
I hate heavy stuff tho
@Trench Grenade heavy rifles or ammo?
11:25 he said (regardless of the armor he’s dead) that’s a lie level 3 hard armor will not deform form that shot and that was doesn’t make into skin let alone through most combat fabrics. Everyone should probably unsubscribe from this guy bad info.
Bad info.
New video up for you
I like the saftey promotion at the start of the video. acts and proove.
Very useful, my state recently banned ARs.
Well atleast there’s a silver lining
That wont last long
what an incredibly informative video, thank you!
Good video!!!
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I recently acquired an 870. Ran a 11-87 growing up. Nice video. Answered some loadout questions for me. Cheers my dude!
First video I've seen of yours. Very informative. My Spidey senses tell me you were at least some sort of instructor in the USMC, most likely a knowledge hat from experience with them
Army infantry 10 years current drill sergeant
@@trench_grenade the voice and word choice gave it away. I have full confidence in you as a drill
@@trench_grenade 11B? I was 11C. The only time I ever used a shotgun was when there was guard duty at some ammunition supply area. And that was using a normal Winchester pump. No extended mag tube. And issued three shell only. I always wondered why bother carrying any gun at all.
Great video! What chest rig that? I can't find one with a velcro front
Ac1
@@trench_grenade copy! Can you do a video on shotguns equipmented with an optic and the appropriate/ realistic combat zero? Mossberg has released the 940 pro tactical, which is cut to receive micro holosuns. Let's talk about it.
Where in hell did you get trained to shoot two load two? Very bad and dangerous advice. You shoot until the threat is gone. Or until tie seek cover to reload. I don’t mean empty your gun but use judgment and do what fits. You give terrible advice
Thanks for your input
Load when you can. If you shoot one, load one if you can. Note, if you can. If you are in a active engagement, then you run it till it’s empty, then transition to the pistol. At that point you should be moving to cover to reload.
Love my 870, but sometimes the failure to eject saddens my heart and drives me crazy. I’ve honed (steel wool) out roughly the first 3.5 inches of the barrel and purchased an improved ejector claw. Also, polished other parts and still happens sometimes.
New shotgun videos on way with 1301
No white light? Ya lost me
Lol in broad daylight you need a white light?
It’s at the house for home defense. Things are heavy in the real world
@@trench_grenade yeah and it’s dark outside for most of the 24 hours where I’m at. Also a stream light weighs like nothing. What if you run into a building w the lights off? The ‘real world’ gets dark very fast. That’s why I train for the real world. I run the exact kit you have here so don’t tell me I don’t know what that all feels like. Cringe logic
@@trench_grenade home defense is literally the most important place for a light on a gun. have fun shooting your wife in the dark dumbass.
@@trench_grenadeA surefire m600df is literally just over 5 oz. Heavy? Are you joking? This is just bad info and bad advice.
12 guage slug is accurate out to 220 yards (200 meters) easy. Some iron sights are tuneable, and learning the trigger pull will be required before moving to any optics or accessories.
“Treat every weapon as if were loaded” Alec Baldwin please take note
He skipped that step apparently
To be fair that’s kinda hard to do on a movie set lmao
@@scottedwards3403 wait, you mean to tell me that movie actors are incapable of learning how to distinguish live ammo from blanks? I know they are stupid but not that stupid
@@Airmanmx1 more so was joking about your comment of following basic gun safety and not pointing a firearm at others, kinda hard to do that when you’re supposed to point a firearm at a camera and pull the trigger.
That being said though, the armorer is the main culprit of responsibility imo, and with him being a producer… he had a hand in hiring the armorer
Nice video! Tell please, do you advice to use barrel chokes, and why don't you prefer a pistol grip. Thank you!
Your shotgun's camouflage is very cool and I think it works very well
Barrel chokes should only be used for Turkey hunting. Let the shotgun do what’s it’s intended to do, throw shot
🇦🇺😎👍Nice
Thanks. I did not know they were not drop safe. Makes sense though. I've always just avoided getting one.
I came back to this video to say they are now using shotguns in the trenches of Ukraine, some or mostly pumps, because of the mud a dirt for reliability...
After a year of fighting they started using them not only are they super effective for close range, like the best they're also using them to take down drones, that are dropping little bombs and grenades on them, so they have a dual purpose now and they are the king of trench warfare and close combat proven war time and time again. One of America's oldest style guns
the scatter Gat is Back Jack!