Red Sea rivalries: The Gulf, the Horn, and the new geopolitics of the Red Sea

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  • Опубліковано 18 кві 2019
  • On April 18, the Brookings Institution hosted an event on unpacking the changing geopolitics of the Red Sea and consider the role of the United States and other foreign actors in this emerging theater.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 198

  • @mikael3245
    @mikael3245 4 роки тому +12

    I think it is time to leave the east africans and redsea region countries to solve their problems by themselves for their mutual interests and that is what we are observing right now.
    the americans, europeans ,asians or any country for that matter ....should learn no intervention but only give support at a request and not create chaos at the expense of these poor countries.....

    • @Gemel_Media
      @Gemel_Media 3 роки тому +2

      Indeed treu dear Thanks for ur postively thinking

  • @ronbasumallik3036
    @ronbasumallik3036 5 років тому +5

    Brookings - Could you please put the name, title and organization of panel participants in the comments of videos, thanks.

  • @magicallife1734
    @magicallife1734 5 років тому +22

    How come there is no a single East Africans among the panels?
    Stop talking behind East Africans back.
    Respect and do not exclude us from the conversation about ourselves.

    • @hamzabutt131
      @hamzabutt131 5 років тому +1

      Your point is very valid, but there is no one from the gulf side as well, so its a balance

    • @AhmedMohamed-tv6kr
      @AhmedMohamed-tv6kr 4 роки тому +5

      East Africans or, for that matter, Horn African nations should have been talking thier interest and global relations among themselves and could have had unified policies that serve their best interests. Unfortunately, my people, the East Africans failed to do so.

    • @eriangelino7800
      @eriangelino7800 4 роки тому

      Anyways, all these people here swivel chair analysts and know nothing about the nuts and bolts of the horn of Africa or the red sea. The perspective is clearly colonial with a brushing attitude of ownership of the horn of Africa.

    • @isaiasafewrqi4547
      @isaiasafewrqi4547 2 роки тому +1

      They are all afflicted by "white saviour complex"!!!!!

    • @Your__mama
      @Your__mama 2 роки тому

      Not east african horn of African

  • @davidbasset7557
    @davidbasset7557 4 роки тому +7

    so much has happened since this talk
    these people are not nearly as impressive as normal citizens from the region

  • @solzed6298
    @solzed6298 2 роки тому +3

    China's presence in the Red sea shouldn't be seen as provocative. It's for economic cooperation with the region and surely will eventually replace the hitoric colonial interventions of the West that has left the Horn into poverty and endless conflicts.

  • @akhalif579
    @akhalif579 2 роки тому

    what happen noble price, I was watching when these meeting happen. what about now? Thank you.

  • @heavenhaile6626
    @heavenhaile6626 5 років тому +16

    Great convo from a White perspective, I would like a African/Black one.

    • @theturkanabus3610
      @theturkanabus3610 4 роки тому +3

      First, Black and African are not synonyms. Neither is White a synonym for European. When everyone is black, nobody is.
      2. Let's be honest: there are very few Africans interested in this subject, if they did there'd be plenty of videos on UA-cam on the subject made by Africans but there's none

    • @rossc7910
      @rossc7910 3 роки тому +2

      I have to agree with this, and I'm not a great proponent of this sort of viewpoint. "Our tax payers are more generous" really said it all for me. They are holding this conversation entirely through the white middle class lexicon. Western taxpayers want their own money spent on their own countries. We have done enough already both for good and bad in the Horn and Red Sea. Let the people there decide their own futures.

    • @ahmedeeqnur4047
      @ahmedeeqnur4047 3 роки тому

      All African are not black 😂😂😂

    • @heavenhaile6626
      @heavenhaile6626 3 роки тому

      @@ahmedeeqnur4047 who said that? You thought you said something

    • @misterbk1791
      @misterbk1791 3 роки тому

      @@ahmedeeqnur4047 they are native Africans are ...

  • @alibaax5346
    @alibaax5346 3 роки тому +3

    The old man is a joker “ we foot the bill of their mess”
    You take a lot from Africa than you return lol

    • @mekke6544
      @mekke6544 Рік тому

      I think the western still think that Africans are foolish .This day every thing is give & take according to international agreement between the two party .No more cheating or showing power .Respect me i will respect.No more cheating or creating conflict in the name of religion .

  • @andrewright7556
    @andrewright7556 2 роки тому +2

    What America could do is respect the sovereignty of Ethiopia and not enter fear. The truth is perceived clearly despite these think tanks. What we see is what we get, if we get what we see. We don't require Alexa or AI to cognize.

  • @amnamn1951
    @amnamn1951 2 роки тому

    East African people should be in the panel to raise their concerns that will be fair

  • @iahesthabte1143
    @iahesthabte1143 4 роки тому

    Action by who?

  • @Ilusionariat
    @Ilusionariat 5 років тому +2

    You mean the Persian Gulf, true?!

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Is nod bac

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ino naw mi orjinal abdlis bey sax shid

  • @lahmet5360
    @lahmet5360 3 роки тому +3

    These so-called experts are shallow, narrow, and not holding much water. Pathetic.

  • @philipskyap
    @philipskyap 5 років тому +3

    China presence in the region is inevitable, she has great interest of the water way, the security of her oil transportation and commercial trade, her investments in the region also increasing. She has no choice but to participate and responsible for the activities in the region.

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Way iniid job swedan

  • @allisgoodtome9135
    @allisgoodtome9135 3 роки тому +2

    Great conversation but I don't understand why are they talking about Africa and No African is there? Is this just me Or....? As far as I understand the ''MAP'' Ethiopia never been by the Red sea unless there is other MAP that we don't know can some one help me.

    • @AbrahamIdrisHibties
      @AbrahamIdrisHibties 3 роки тому +1

      They are mixing region and coastline together. One stone two birds. Etiopia is a landlocked country, but it is the US and some European countries influences that place Etiopia in the region to become a key player besides Egypt. Etiopia is also on the great Lakes politcal sphere gaming on the Blue Nile Hot 🔥 issues.

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Mi inar qe mi mud shosoyal i am is lam ilxam dulaahi

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Is is ok

  • @raykirkham5357
    @raykirkham5357 2 роки тому +1

    Golly gee! It sure is great getting to watch a bunch of white people discuss what should happen in a country full of black people. This seems a regular thing with Brookings.

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok mi a im somalia anid janji may lif sosiyal fic toriye san badhe abdi dis kay is tares mi is nod is tares

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    A am somalia lov

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Is not sogsowell sabadhe iskay sagsuwen aley min halegare soshiya figtorori min gudman karena inolaw sabadhe shid

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Is nor chena mi

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok mud sosiysal tid tomomorow coll min talefon

  • @michaeljango8073
    @michaeljango8073 2 роки тому +2

    All of them are dam Eritrea 🇪🇷 own 1000 km they don’t mention one time because Eritrea they kick them out they scare like hill from Eritrea 🇪🇷 and naw the worst thing Ethiopia priminster be come friend of Eritrea that’s a big problem for the west against their wishes if those people they call themselves experts or educated what ever been honest they have to talk to Eritrea government one of the best government in Africa but they can’t there’s ideology deferent between west and Eritrea

    • @amanoneloves2506
      @amanoneloves2506 Рік тому

      english haxiratni krub enber gerimni bzaeba etiopia trah kzarebo nhna kelena ab hnbrti red sea

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Inid balen 13 yeris

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok hamani yeris hom los mi

  • @mekke6544
    @mekke6544 Рік тому

    Jibutu was part of Ethiopia before taken by France for100 years lease
    agreement with king Minilk of Ethiopia

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Inid agud halev awar hospitell

  • @williamhatzidis9240
    @williamhatzidis9240 3 роки тому +2

    Embodied opinions. Listen to the paternalistic register of discussion across this cross-legged canvas without so much as the flinch of a brow: the "crashing together", "for better or for worse", of these "asymmetric relationships". Frankly, the most asymmetric thing about the Red Sea is this discussion; an exercise in neo--neo-colonialism. Here we have grown men and a woman, sentient and intelligent creatures each and everyone, talking as if the land belongs to them and infantilising peoples from the Horn of Africa. It is the well-worn process of othering the African in a complex system of devaluation but designed here less to imbue the West's sense of superiority over the Black man---that point is less presumed by this panel than merely disregarded as a lesser concern in a higher stakes game---than one designed to position the West in a place of moral superiority over China, Russia, and the Gulf nations. Of course, the worst of it is the audacity to play this charade out in public, a tragedy in five acts, record it, and peddle it as some kind of altruistic going concern.

  • @eritreancommunity7054
    @eritreancommunity7054 2 роки тому +1

    Leave Eritrea alone which also leave Africa issues to Africa's continent

  • @mahdiali2695
    @mahdiali2695 3 роки тому

    Turkey have stronger ties to the horn and defended somali sultanates of adel in the red sea and d gulf of berbers present the gulf of aden and sultanate of mogadiscio and sultanate of ajuraan in western indian ocean

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Is not askoliste mi no by inid 1 rum swedan elar him

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Alxm i is nod fayo jar nasan swedan

  • @iland300
    @iland300 5 років тому +15

    Thanks for the Program, the United Nation under ( Uni-Som ) of 24000 Troops from Africa deployed in Somalia since 2011 which cost USA and west Europe around 500 Million Dollars/Euros Yearly or more. This Money can build easily a Somali Army of 36000 Personnel and Navy of 4000 Personnel. All Piracy and Lawlessness will end and Somalia will be in Peace but were Refused and the United Arab Emirates ( UAE ) involvement in Somalia of only one Million People are just Tools and every Somalian knows of an Agenda from USA and West Europe to Somalia of these two Objectives 1) Oil Reserve if Confirmed or 2) Somalia signed one Belt one Road ( OBOR ) with China or Both. If Somalia and China has successful Relationship, China will have a strong Presence in the west of Indian Ocean and just like China Presence in Djibouti in the Red Sea. I think our Suffering will continue until at least 2020 because of the International Politics and until the United Nation pack up and leaves and just like when Eritrea closed the United Nation Office and kick them out and replace it with a real Partner of 50/50 for Somalia and the Somali People.

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Wat is barabalen mi abdi

  • @alemat897
    @alemat897 2 роки тому +2

    Colonialism mindsets leave us alone #nomore #oneafrica

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Is not istares mi nanib istates mi wallahi is nod istates may lileh sososital

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok mi is not iskoll africa shid way anid is kull mas karace way barabalen toc swedan mi hanikam mi 33 or shid war shid im ok

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Mi is not janji mey lif way swedan

  • @saintington
    @saintington 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks Alex, The Greek .I agree with everything he said. The worlds heart beats right around the red sea.this is where the religion and politics merge.Ethiopia is the melting pot for East Africa,Africa and the world at large.
    Its about time to Europe and America to actively and positively act on binding these East African countries .

  • @tabawufuyat111
    @tabawufuyat111 Рік тому

    Why are you interfering to other countries? They can cleaning their home themselves if they have any issues! Leave them alone

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    May wetid allah i mi aslilam

  • @getachewadane9952
    @getachewadane9952 2 роки тому +1

    You are concerned about the presence of China. Hmm, we are concerned about the Americans presence as well who are trying to be the police of the world interfering in the affairs of a sovereign country.

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    U shanji may liv hamani yeris karani

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Mi ko komon tomorow

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok mi is not lasun karina malisan

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Mi i abi alxmdulah

  • @getachewadane9952
    @getachewadane9952 2 роки тому +2

    You are discussing the Red sea but invited no African countries living around it. How contemptuous!!!

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok rasbagti swedan inid obaren mi

  • @CHRIST-Anchord
    @CHRIST-Anchord 2 роки тому

    How is Herman Cohen related to TpLf? Is it true that there is marriage relationship with TPLF?
    Inquiry minds need to know!

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Mi is tot oll allkohol is mogkin ashish

  • @idmanahmed9149
    @idmanahmed9149 2 роки тому

    The British guy is just waffaling

  • @caesargassim
    @caesargassim 3 роки тому

    Not one mention of Israel and the strait of Tiran on the Red Sea or the Negev which Pres Weizmann pleaded heavily with Pres Truman for it to be added into Israel’s territory. Even if Ben-Gurion said for Israel to survive it must look south. Not to mention Israeli’s military bases in Eritrea or the blockade of the Eilat port in 1967 which was the primary cause of the Six-Day War with the Arabs. Well, at least there was tea and biscuits.

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Sorry mi man

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Sorry fictoriya alac

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    I nonaw way i am fam mogadhishoso mali

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Tok magareshin ferista i am sulam

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ino naw may laf shid may lif wad karanina min gud man fal shopin

  • @eye2eyeerigavo777
    @eye2eyeerigavo777 4 роки тому +2

    Quote "We do institutions others tend to do more personal.. And then continued: in very fluid times, we offer good nuitrition others offer cocaine, and its kind of difficult name sex to get cuaght up in nuitrition when you can get high...!! 🤔🤔 I understand he has made 2_lethal offers here on the table but his paraphrase is quite funny and contrrary as he tries to disguise himself cleaverly....but We also know you OFFERING COCAINE and NOT! nuitrition as we never expect that Kind of offer from anyone anyway...

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    😅

  • @leban9958
    @leban9958 3 роки тому

    Who ever suports the greater somalia is going to be the quick winner rather than playing Arab china euro america religion and so on all we can do now is acting warning factions to keep every away because conflicts will bring more countries to involve in

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok inid karina ilac way

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Mi is not agtar mey alx dulah ilak sosiyal oll may fojir

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ino dj

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok wad u naw shid may lif is notis tares shid

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Mi i am somali

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Wallahi is nod qanis imid magala

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok ilo haf baba shid

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Shid may no lefad war momar

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ano naw no mogadisho mi is not agtar mi

  • @yaredkumela5811
    @yaredkumela5811 3 роки тому +3

    Simple: Why don't you leave us alone. When you say ""Risk'', what risk are you talking about? A risk for our development or risk that one day Africa might not expose itself to European long white fangs? It is really dreadful to see you white people gathering together to devise a way to scavenge the leftover of the colonial past. I would like to tell you this: It won't happen in Ethiopia, NOT AGAIN!

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Mi is not alimanis anid jop is not

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Is tot ranta sosoyall

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok aned l run

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    San badhe shid inolah banki naw

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Sorry i am somali karina way miis not abokad if mej

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ala fall mi sosoyal mi qoq

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ano naw san badhi somali

  • @waqtilumis4094
    @waqtilumis4094 4 роки тому

    Thanks for realizing that we all read my be we analyse your speeches or maybe we Ethiopia Eritrea Somalia jibouti we do have our interests in a different prospective in a different manner not that the variety of colours all mankind have the same test i mean colour noooooooooo

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok way karina may lif janji laf way ino naw may lif shid

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok naw is not tog naw inolag sosoyal ranta mi

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    No is not go agrika 1 yes may alow

  • @mahdiali2695
    @mahdiali2695 3 роки тому

    My dirty is black the night is black all bad things are black my identity is somali

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Way america oll tok inolay

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Is not agtar mi shid

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Inof baba mu sorry

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Sorry mi man garinina min gudman

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    No

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok inid in run ilar shid inid gange may lif way i hah 3 jirdarer alxdulah mi i am man hufad

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Shid is not qanis shid

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok inid aderis sorry 1 rum

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Iskus mi oss avdi fattah mi mahaden

  • @AbrahamIdrisHibties
    @AbrahamIdrisHibties 3 роки тому +1

    Sleepy Spectators! Ya right! You are restlessly Involving Hungry Giants. Nice Try, anyways.

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Das barobaro balen mast balen susiyal isa isafara ilac isafariga us not is tates mi no

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Way min fesbak bolac anaw karina wer min son

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 роки тому

    Ok icoll polis