Very interesting piece of history and great analysis. Love the diplomatically chosen expressions. Love Melvyn Bragg. Can't wait to liisten to more episodes. Thanks for loading.
I think it's the cause of the War of the Roses. Richard obliterated his popular support when he screwed over the rebels, and that left him vulnerable to the conniving barons who installed Bolingbrooke.
It's amazing how the British Broadcasting Corporation can spend a fortune on history programs by sycophantic historians portraying how Kings and Queens have created a wonderfully quirky, eclectic, modern Britain. Full of men and women who are free because their rulers are so enlightened, but when it comes to people like Watt Tyler all we get is a good, yet dry and worthy program on Radio 4, its a much more interesting story, in my opinion , than learning how royal psychopaths try to control everything with propaganda. No taxation without representation.
I don't think In Our Time Is "dry and worthy" I listen to it when it goes out on Radio 4 on Thursday mornings. and usually enjoy it. Wat Tyler , Jack Straw and John Ball have fascinated me since childhood, and you are correct in saying that we don't hear enough about the lives of ordinary working people from History. I remember being confused by the rhyme "When Adam delved and Eve span, who then was the gentleman" as a kid I thought "Well it's Adam isn't it?" Took me a few years to work that one out !
Yes ! Long past time we had an episode which explored the Origins of Kingship : the longest lasting confidence trick imposed upon the people of Europe / UK.
Look at Rodney Hilton- Bondmen Made Free- Hilton was a Marxist historian who believed that serfdom and the peasant/ lord relationship was a form of class conflict. So 1381, was as much revolutionary activity as 1905 and 1917 in Russia. So in answer to your question, it was potentially a form of socialism and the demands of the proletariat for egalitarianism and freedom from economic and social oppression.
The "educated" opinion is usually "oh no what an ignorant idea " - but ask any ordinary English person and they would say "Yes" . The Peasants' Revolt is one incident in History that we can all relate to. The way Wat Tyler and his followers were screwed over by the King's men was unforgivable. The Boss Class has always taken this attitude toward the people. Never, never trust them.
Melvyn Bragg is marvelous. I am always amazed and grateful for the knowledge that his program spreads.
power to the people!
Very interesting piece of history and great analysis. Love the diplomatically chosen expressions. Love Melvyn Bragg. Can't wait to liisten to more episodes. Thanks for loading.
Great show. Thanks for posting it.
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Range Rover Rick ..I second that!!!!
Great chat, thanks for posting
Thanks for sharing this.
Very surprised that none of the guests mentioned the importance of 15th June being the day that Magna Carta was signed by King John.
the heroism of Richard sounds like pure invention
Interesting. I believe it's pretty well sourced and was certainly witnessed by many. What alternative scenario accounts for the outcome?
I think it's the cause of the War of the Roses. Richard obliterated his popular support when he screwed over the rebels, and that left him vulnerable to the conniving barons who installed Bolingbrooke.
It's amazing how the British Broadcasting Corporation can spend a fortune on history programs by sycophantic historians portraying how Kings and Queens have created a wonderfully quirky, eclectic, modern Britain. Full of men and women who are free because their rulers are so enlightened, but when it comes to people like Watt Tyler all we get is a good, yet dry and worthy program on Radio 4, its a much more interesting story, in my opinion , than learning how royal psychopaths try to control everything with propaganda. No taxation without representation.
I don't think In Our Time Is "dry and worthy" I listen to it when it goes out on Radio 4 on Thursday mornings. and usually enjoy it. Wat Tyler , Jack Straw and John Ball have fascinated me since childhood, and you are correct in saying that we don't hear enough about the lives of ordinary working people from History.
I remember being confused by the rhyme "When Adam delved and Eve span, who then was the gentleman" as a kid I thought "Well it's Adam isn't it?" Took me a few years to work that one out !
Yes ! Long past time we had an episode which explored the Origins of Kingship : the longest
lasting confidence trick imposed
upon the people of Europe / UK.
could the peasants revolt be considered an early form/basis for socialism in later ages??
Look at Rodney Hilton- Bondmen Made Free- Hilton was a Marxist historian who believed that serfdom and the peasant/ lord relationship was a form of class conflict. So 1381, was as much revolutionary activity as 1905 and 1917 in Russia. So in answer to your question, it was potentially a form of socialism and the demands of the proletariat for egalitarianism and freedom from economic and social oppression.
cheers for replying. i thought it was socialism basically lol
David Joseph Anthony Taylor ..It most certainly gave the people at the top of the ' SOCIAL PILE ' food for thought.
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The "educated" opinion is usually "oh no what an ignorant idea " - but ask any ordinary English person and they would say "Yes" . The Peasants' Revolt is one incident in History that we can all relate to. The way Wat Tyler and his followers were screwed over by the King's men was unforgivable. The Boss Class has always taken this attitude toward the people. Never, never trust them.