I drove one of those when I worked for a construction company in the mid eighties. It had a spring loaded blade for pushing Catapillar pans. It was a monster. Plenty of power.
I watched one of those push in the early 1970s at an asbestos mine in northern British Columbia at Cassiar when it still was the biggest dozer in the world.
I ran into one sitting high on a side of a gravel pit. I felt it's primitive retired historic soul reminiscing a long enslavement to moving massive amounts of rock n earth. A Wisconsin west Alice manufactured icon! Who's historic build up then swamped in a bogg of economic conglomerate congestion. So memories still rekindle via standing relics
Thank you so much for showing this monster. The time the people took to put wear guards on blade. I Love the creep it does, slow but sure. Very nice in tight quarter's. AC made some big boys in there time.
When I was a kid here in Nebraska my Uncle run one of them when they built the power plant. They used it to push big scrapers. I can't remember what kind they were but the big green machines.
Agree with that blade setup ole Roy pushed scapers or pullers the type that needed a dozer to help them scrape up a load. What the thicker plate in the centre of the blade is for. Also no tilt hydraulic cylinders and I would put him in a D10-11 Caterpillar size
I vaguely recall 2 of these machines working on Fraser Island (Kgari) off the coast of Qld ,Australia in a mineral sand mining operation during the late 70's, early 80's. Used a much larger blade and wider tracks. Great to see a surviving example .
That is not an original HD 41 blade. It's like a modified HD 21 blade. The HD 41 blade would be about 1/3 larger and would be angled on the left and right side.
@09amusement no, not really, the early tractors didn't sell, they were too expensive, and too big. The model U was built under contract, but the co-op went broke, so Allis Chalmers was stuck with the tractor, and decided to sell the remaining stock, and get out of the tractor business. They hired a guy (Harry Merritt )to dispose of these, and flying to California he saw the orange colored poppy fields and decided the tractors should be painted Persian orange. That fueled sales, and kept Allis Chalmers building tractors, so the U was actually the tractor that put them on the map
Well, they're old pieces of iron. But every operator that used these old Fiatallis monsters always said that they would outpush and outrip a Cat any day. Many of these were still around and working in recent years.
Love the big dozers, too bad more of them aren't kept instead of scrapping them. There was a quarry operation in Festus Mo that had a pair of HD-35 s and a 41. He was selling stone and leveling the bluff alongside the River ,to sell for strip malls. He would buy these big units from, I believe , government surplus sales. Use them till they needed heavy repairs then let them sit. A few years back when the scrap was super high, away they went. The average collector don't have a chance due to the high cost to buy , repair or transport! The only versions of those giants I ever saw in person, they sat there for years, now scrapped on site!
Very unfortunate. These monsters deserve a good retirement, being restored and sitting somewhere after they finish their gruelling job, maybe in a collector's property. But like you said they can be expensive, not only for the restoration but for the transport too.
I drove one of those when I worked for a construction company in the mid eighties. It had a spring loaded blade for pushing Catapillar pans. It was a monster. Plenty of power.
Yep that was a push blade…
Around 1970 our Ag class toured Central Ohio Coal where they had 5 of those with 20' blades pushing side by side doing reclaiming.
That machine has probably helped load millions of tons of material pushing scrapers
Pioneer Days held in Albany MN each September has a HD-41 on display. Has a V-12 Cummins
Would that be a 1710 or something different?
I watched one of those push in the early 1970s at an asbestos mine in northern British Columbia at Cassiar when it still was the biggest dozer in the world.
Interesting thing is the narrow blade and bracket, must be a custom usage
Big Roy wants to clock-in, and go to work! 👍
I ran into one sitting high on a side of a gravel pit. I felt it's primitive retired historic soul reminiscing a long enslavement to moving massive amounts of rock n earth. A Wisconsin west Alice manufactured icon! Who's historic build up then swamped in a bogg of economic conglomerate congestion. So memories still rekindle via standing relics
Well, Big Roy actually lives up to his name!! That's the first time I've ever seen one of those,
Thank you so much for showing this monster. The time the people took to put wear guards on blade. I Love the creep it does, slow but sure. Very nice in tight quarter's. AC made some big boys in there time.
It's a push blade for scrapers
Big girl👍🏼👍🏼 I have a 21 that I still use. 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺
Really
I would like to hear it pushing a big load!! I love equipment.
When I was a kid here in Nebraska my Uncle run one of them when they built the power plant. They used it to push big scrapers. I can't remember what kind they were but the big green machines.
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First one I have seen. Thanks.
I ran a Komatsu D455A once it was bigger than this but had the same cummins 1710 V12 but was rated at 620 HP.
First track type tractor to break the 500hp mark
Agree with that blade setup ole Roy pushed scapers or pullers the type that needed a dozer to help them scrape up a load. What the thicker plate in the centre of the blade is for. Also no tilt hydraulic cylinders and I would put him in a D10-11 Caterpillar size
It is between the old D9H and the Cat D10N no way compete in anyway with D11s!
The Fiatallis HD41, 41B or FD50 were in the Cat D10 class as dozers, much bigger than a D9.
I vaguely recall 2 of these machines working on Fraser Island (Kgari) off the coast of Qld ,Australia in a mineral sand mining operation during the late 70's, early 80's. Used a much larger blade and wider tracks.
Great to see a surviving example .
Quest minings dozers,they sent one up to Telfer Gold mine.
it is to bad the ripper never got replaced!
That one was for pushing pans
Oh to be the cat skinner that got to run that bran new!!!🥰🤩🤩
That is not an original HD 41 blade. It's like a modified HD 21 blade. The HD 41 blade would be about 1/3 larger and would be angled on the left and right side.
Omg, it's a push blade for loading scrapers!!! Certainly not from a 21 lmao
It would be cool to see it pushing dirt.
my dad built those in springfield, illinois . uaw 1027
And it started with the Model B tractor!
It started with the U
@RJ1999x we're both wrong. It was in fact the model 10/18 three wheel tractor from 1914.
@09amusement no, not really, the early tractors didn't sell, they were too expensive, and too big. The model U was built under contract, but the co-op went broke, so Allis Chalmers was stuck with the tractor, and decided to sell the remaining stock, and get out of the tractor business. They hired a guy (Harry Merritt )to dispose of these, and flying to California he saw the orange colored poppy fields and decided the tractors should be painted Persian orange. That fueled sales, and kept Allis Chalmers building tractors, so the U was actually the tractor that put them on the map
@@RJ1999x which model was the U derived from tho?
@09amusement was a clean sheet built on contract
You need a small dozer just to clean up the ruts that this dozer makes!
Back in the day if you could keep final drives in it, it would push a lot of material, but now a days a Cat D10 and D11 would work the ass off it!!
Well, they're old pieces of iron. But every operator that used these old Fiatallis monsters always said that they would outpush and outrip a Cat any day. Many of these were still around and working in recent years.
That's bar talk, and not true at all
Good video! I own the first Michigan 280. I need help saving it or selling it to keep it from the scrappers.
That’s a sweet piece of old iron. Hopefully someone would want to preserve it and can afford to move it and store it.
The old cable dozers look like old 14A D8s??
Have a new transmission, steering clutches, finals if anyone is looking
Is this the last one to survive and/or exist?
Pretty sure there is one in Monroe County, WV
I operated push cat alot in80s
What's she weigh?
65 tons
The blade looks tiny.
Love the big dozers, too bad more of them aren't kept instead of scrapping them. There was a quarry operation in Festus Mo that had a pair of HD-35 s and a 41. He was selling stone and leveling the bluff alongside the River ,to sell for strip malls. He would buy these big units from, I believe , government surplus sales. Use them till they needed heavy repairs then let them sit. A few years back when the scrap was super high, away they went. The average collector don't have a chance due to the high cost to buy , repair or transport! The only versions of those giants I ever saw in person, they sat there for years, now scrapped on site!
Very unfortunate. These monsters deserve a good retirement, being restored and sitting somewhere after they finish their gruelling job, maybe in a collector's property. But like you said they can be expensive, not only for the restoration but for the transport too.
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I wish i was a bulldozer instead of a human
Its a bit of a dog ….
Your mom?