One Decade to Midnight (part 1): Problematique

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  • @GeorgRockallSchmidt
    @GeorgRockallSchmidt  19 годин тому +3

    Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/2VTvnWE0oJc/v-deo.html

  • @LegwarmerProductions
    @LegwarmerProductions 14 днів тому +519

    I'm truly thankful it's still only the 1970s. We have time!

    • @DaxxTerryGreen
      @DaxxTerryGreen 10 днів тому

      ( :

    • @mauriciomorais7818
      @mauriciomorais7818 10 днів тому +22

      I'm sure those 2020s chaps will come up with a solution.

    • @SkyNick
      @SkyNick 9 днів тому +11

      @@mauriciomorais7818 nah they lost to the battle of brainrot

    • @noahrafter-lanigan2409
      @noahrafter-lanigan2409 4 дні тому

      If anything, the few intelligent people left in society will have a field day trying to control the idiots easier, maybe if we are lucky they can use the idiot labour to create a better world

    • @nuggyfresh6430
      @nuggyfresh6430 3 дні тому

      Lol

  • @Blackfyre741
    @Blackfyre741 12 днів тому +143

    Growth means nothing without the welfare of human beings

    • @ramonmujica3193
      @ramonmujica3193 11 днів тому +1

      The welfare of the fat cat's bank account.

    • @Hemostat
      @Hemostat 11 днів тому +15

      All our Bitcoin rigs will continue humming as we rot

    • @roscojenkins7451
      @roscojenkins7451 10 днів тому +8

      Profits above all else. Capitalism ensures an autonomous bank account will own all wealth long after we have all been killed off by the necessity of adding a percentage point to the autonomous stock portfolio

    • @Blackfyre741
      @Blackfyre741 10 днів тому +15

      @@roscojenkins7451 who cares about the planet when we can make the magic number on the screen go up

    • @roscojenkins7451
      @roscojenkins7451 10 днів тому +1

      @@Blackfyre741 exactly

  • @sprobablycancr4457
    @sprobablycancr4457 14 днів тому +389

    I talked to my sister about this. She called me a "Negative Nellie".
    Now I'm in prison.

    • @PoptartParasol
      @PoptartParasol 14 днів тому +9

      An average Bitlife playthrough :p

    • @daviddewey2107
      @daviddewey2107 13 днів тому +7

      All the population all over the world is going down very quickly. So none of this is actually relevant.

    • @atomictraveller
      @atomictraveller 13 днів тому +2

      nah. west papua is worth fighting to keep free. they actually do function a bunch higher than anyone you know would believe.

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 12 днів тому

      ​@@daviddewey2107 where's there proof of this?

    • @Nick2Stix
      @Nick2Stix 12 днів тому

      declining population might actually be worse than overpopulation, as there will not be enough people to work the fields or drive the trucks or move the containers we need to facilitate international trade. this will also lead to famine and societal collapse​@@daviddewey2107

  • @letsburn00
    @letsburn00 14 днів тому +331

    I've worked in mining. Probably the greatest flaw in their reasoning was an awareness of the uneconomical deposits. I've seen a significant number of mines where it's a single material mine, but it actually has multiple materials available, they just never bother to "bolt on" a recovery system.
    For instance, one of the biggest uranium mines in the world is actually a copper and gold mine, but they extract uranium as a bonus section, since it's worth recovering due to the price.

    • @postmodernmining
      @postmodernmining 14 днів тому +48

      Short sightedness plagues the industry at all levels. I had a buddy running a diamond placer operation in Sierra Leone. Gold dust poured over the edges of the recovery unit to go straight to tailings.

    • @NickLaslett
      @NickLaslett 13 днів тому +37

      Although the general concept of limitations of finite resources, has some merit. We are so far from that point. Human society is incredibly inefficient. However hard it is to comprehend how society will function differently, we will adapt. That is the nature of life. The Stone Age didn’t end because we ran out of stones.

    • @alexrobbins4566
      @alexrobbins4566 13 днів тому +9

      @@postmodernmining im not sure how u can live with ur self cooperating with exploiters and expletive behavior that hurts and kills innocent people, ig im making assumptions here so i'll give u a chance to defend urself

    • @ceeemm1901
      @ceeemm1901 13 днів тому +7

      @@NickLaslett Tell that to the Easter Islanders....

    • @MB-st7be
      @MB-st7be 13 днів тому +5

      You see this all the time in academia, they don't understand the difference between reserves and deposits

  • @markfrancis5164
    @markfrancis5164 14 днів тому +74

    50 years ago - anyone who was interested and wanted to know the real prospects for the developed world where quite clear in the 1960’s & 1970’s.
    We just choose to ignore the problem and ‘Carry On Regardless’. If an economic and ecological car crash is inevitable & unavoidable, why not drive at top speed and see how far we get.

    • @antonyjh1234
      @antonyjh1234 14 днів тому +16

      I don't think it was chosen to be ignored, I think they believed things were being taken care of and they went back to their jobs, got money and the cycle continued. There was no limiting factor after money could be printed out of thin air.

    • @Trace-l7k
      @Trace-l7k 10 днів тому

      Ronnie Raygun opened the floodgates for an oligarchy to supplant a democracy. It’s working exactly as planned.

    • @paulsansonetti7410
      @paulsansonetti7410 9 днів тому +2

      Too bad This thesis has been completely disproven
      See " The ultimate resource " by Julian Simon for the copious receipts

    • @GruntKF
      @GruntKF 8 днів тому

      Those at the reins of the status quo chose that because their belief systems are informed by colonialism which they inherited. Don't be so quick to write off all humans when it's really a small minority of psychos hellbent on unsustainable ideas

  • @joshuahebert7972
    @joshuahebert7972 14 днів тому +189

    Or, "How I learned to stop worrying and love the Hiptang."

  • @gdemorest7942
    @gdemorest7942 14 днів тому +113

    "It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future."

    • @mas7833
      @mas7833 14 днів тому +3

      What else are you going to predict?

    • @zerg0s
      @zerg0s 14 днів тому +11

      @mas7833 Good job spotting the joke, mate!

    • @aby110
      @aby110 14 днів тому

      Exactly. Lemme predict the past

    • @peterwiley706
      @peterwiley706 14 днів тому +4

      I'm pretty sure the pencil I'm holding will fall to the floor if I let go of it.

    • @thelostcosmonaut5555
      @thelostcosmonaut5555 13 днів тому +5

      ​@@peterwiley706 I'll bet you 50 Greek drachmas that it won't.

  • @cholst1
    @cholst1 14 днів тому +228

    Yeah what happened to all that free time technology was gonna give me, strange that.

    • @Tofu_va_Bien
      @Tofu_va_Bien 14 днів тому +32

      Capitalism happened, unfortunately.

    • @Watchmanskey
      @Watchmanskey 14 днів тому +37

      Well, with AI taking our jobs, yes we're all gonna get a lot of free time
      Just don't expect to be paid a single cent when that happens

    • @pummisher1186
      @pummisher1186 13 днів тому +21

      The cake is a lie.

    • @NateTheNarrator
      @NateTheNarrator 13 днів тому

      An Age of Strife is what's coming for us. With no work and seemingly no future, people aren't just going to lay down and resign themselves to starve or die in poverty. There will be wars and rumors of wars. Technarchs, warlords, tyrant governments, and marauders will make our world a dangerous place. Weapons, the likes of which we never imagined, will be deployed to bring destruction and devastation to the masses. Those who survive will be a hardened and bitter people who will do whatever is necessary to survive.
      Then again, I may be wrong and for the sake of a bright future for mankind...I pray that I am.

    • @Elora445
      @Elora445 12 днів тому +6

      @@Watchmanskey
      Don't understand how not everyone can see this. It is already happening, damn it!

  • @egonne2316
    @egonne2316 14 днів тому +791

    Another dose of Georg's limitless optimism

    • @billwaterson9492
      @billwaterson9492 14 днів тому +9

      Why is it refreshing though

    • @kenon6968
      @kenon6968 14 днів тому

      Slurp up that Hip Tang

    • @Gliese380
      @Gliese380 14 днів тому +10

      I bet he's a hoot to hang out with at funerals.

    • @lelagrangeeffectphysics4120
      @lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 14 днів тому +3

      His rant stinks of tankie tears, sweet sweet tankie tears, that bitter fatalism of a pouting child that screams "it was gonna fail anyways" as he eyes you enviously.

    • @razjeban
      @razjeban 14 днів тому +12

      ​@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120what are you on about? Do you think he's wrong or he's not wrong but you still wanna dunk on "tankies" despite them being right?

  • @NIL0S
    @NIL0S 14 днів тому +364

    If anything, the problem is stagnation. It's human nature to create, seek and explore. But what we are doing right now is going in circles. That's not growth, it's aimless consumption. The problem is that we are enslaved to "line must go up" instead than to actual progress, breaking of new ground, reaching of new places and ideas.

    • @nulltan
      @nulltan 14 днів тому +82

      But the company will have to close it's doors if my fridge doesn't break within 18 months.

    • @pupyfan69
      @pupyfan69 14 днів тому +29

      have you read karl marx? theres a concept in his work of the mode of production (capitalism in this case) growing to become a limiting factor on the forces of production, preventing further progress.

    • @lelagrangeeffectphysics4120
      @lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 14 днів тому +12

      Define progress, this is such a loose and aimless statement that it can be made into anything, "we dont need to make products consumers buy, we need to make green toaster because THAT is progress"

    • @sean748
      @sean748 14 днів тому +15

      "I haven't even begun to peak"- humanity

    • @avanonyme
      @avanonyme 14 днів тому +6

      @@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 I agree with the fact its loosely defined, but it is still true. Like, lets say progress is tied to an increase of value. Value at this point in time is tied to money, and that's how we define progress right now. Imo a big part of the solution is to recognize that value is personal and has different meaning to everyone, thereby letting people decides what they want to focus on and making 'progress' on. If you think making green toaster is progress then by all means suit yourself

  • @davidmeyer3795
    @davidmeyer3795 14 днів тому +108

    The Soylent green music always adds anxiety

  • @WolfeSpeider
    @WolfeSpeider 14 днів тому +163

    Gonna have to start digging into the Hiptang reserves

    • @henryglennon3864
      @henryglennon3864 14 днів тому +7

      Hiptang!
      [Dial up noise]

    • @paineoftheworld
      @paineoftheworld 14 днів тому +12

      Touch the Strategic Hiptang Reserve ™ at your peril. Please understand Citizen, you are being watched.

    • @flatline8580
      @flatline8580 14 днів тому +3

      I sure hope there are Hiptang asteroids or something that our saviour Elon can harvest for us...

    • @Ethan1123Ac
      @Ethan1123Ac 11 днів тому +1

      Hiptang! “At least it’s not people”

  • @Metalfrailruiner
    @Metalfrailruiner 14 днів тому +49

    Peak Georg. I hope that part 2 covers the MIT study that initially predicted collapse around 2040 along with the recent KPMG recalibration/buttressing, along with the Pentagon and NASA's assessment around a similar timeframe. I've been grappling with this reality for years now. I spent the first little while spiraling into despair especially as the global pandemic set in, nowadays I try to live in the moment and appreciate what I have because the more time I spend worrying about the future, the more time's gone out the door and less for happiness.

    • @Iwasneverhere84
      @Iwasneverhere84 3 дні тому

      Coming to the same conclusion myself. Time to enjoy the planet. Even if we wipe ourselves out, the earths beauty will still persist.

  • @adamelliott2302
    @adamelliott2302 14 днів тому +70

    Perfect! Been looking for a new book to read the kids at bedtime.

  • @ZendegiLeonard
    @ZendegiLeonard 14 днів тому +31

    Well, that trip to England certainly lightened the mood

  • @thrillhouse_vanhouten
    @thrillhouse_vanhouten 14 днів тому +57

    Immediately following the line about famine at 10:09, UA-cam served me a commercial for hamburgers

    • @paineoftheworld
      @paineoftheworld 14 днів тому +2

      I got Starfleet Command.

    • @gopro2804
      @gopro2804 14 днів тому +15

      get an ad blocker!

    • @pacboybbb5487
      @pacboybbb5487 14 днів тому +1

      Burger King

    • @ysf-psfx
      @ysf-psfx 12 днів тому

      Why do people still watch youtube ads? It's really easy to block them. Adblock and Adblock Plus.

    • @middler5
      @middler5 8 днів тому +1

      I got offshore wind resources. I win.

  • @bluegill5802
    @bluegill5802 14 днів тому +118

    I guess they did take action by removing chromium from car bumpers. Now they are made of dead dinosaurs and spent popsicle sticks. Thank goodness

    • @ChrisChocol
      @ChrisChocol 14 днів тому +9

      oil isn't dead dinosaurs

    • @scottsauritch3216
      @scottsauritch3216 13 днів тому +5

      ​@@ChrisChocolyes, but you're forgetting all these people who are on here panicking don't know that so how else are they going to panic?
      How else would they think we have finite resources if they don't realize energy isn't dinosaurs?😂

    • @Wheres-my-toes-bro
      @Wheres-my-toes-bro 13 днів тому

      @@bluegill5802 Oil is abiogenic and replenishes, 'dead dinosaurs' & 'fossil fuels' is a marketing term.

    • @kellywalker1664
      @kellywalker1664 13 днів тому +5

      ​@@scottsauritch3216Yep, Dead Carboniferous Critters just doesn't have the same hook. 😕

  • @jamesfinch691
    @jamesfinch691 13 днів тому +13

    Two days ago I was telling my partner about my favorite UA-camrs and you came up. I couldn't remember your name, and I wasn't subscribed, so I was unable to find you! The algorithm spit out this video for me today and I'm both creeped out and ecstatic about it! I'm subscribed now and I have many videos to catch up on. Thanks Georg!! ❤❤❤

  • @dougsinthailand7176
    @dougsinthailand7176 13 днів тому +19

    Since humanity’s inception, our population and our territory has been growing and growing, even taking the form of stealing territory from less advanced cultures.
    But now we’ve occupied every inch of land on the earth, and we’ve stabilized our population. Unfortunately our culture is so linked with growth, it’s hard to have a conversation about the economy without mentioning growth. If we can’t find a new paradigm, we’re dead.

    • @antonyjh1234
      @antonyjh1234 13 днів тому +1

      Not sure about the less advanced culture bit but good people have to be able to stop bad people and sometimes we forget that. Imagine if one country says they want to continue or even one state, if they have all the guns, how would we stop them? It'll probably, well it is now, going headlong towards destruction and those on top of the rubbish heap will think they have won if their families are still alive. Maybe emergent response from this next few years heat will turn things around and we go in a new direction because this one is done.

    • @dougsinthailand7176
      @dougsinthailand7176 13 днів тому +3

      Primarily I’m referring to our addiction to growth. And at a certain point it becomes unsustainable.

    • @antonyjh1234
      @antonyjh1234 13 днів тому +4

      @@dougsinthailand7176 Mention degrowth and everyone throws a fit and yet food, shelter and medical care should be the low hanging fruit, maintain that for everybody on the planet and we have come a long way but society doesn't seem to have that control, if you have money, everything is supposed to be at your fingertips and for that there has to be supply. With oil running out and the backbone of society and the pumps about to run dry, it sure will be interesting.

    • @miguelmalvina5200
      @miguelmalvina5200 9 днів тому

      we need space exploration asap

    • @igodohealth9884
      @igodohealth9884 9 днів тому

      "..stealing from less advanced cultures"?
      No. Just more avarice and less love.
      As long as we keep believing in the fake world paradigm & the whole his-story bs, it all ends in nothingness.

  • @kubexiu
    @kubexiu 14 днів тому +15

    I hate those intellectuals. They always think and work from the actual rulers perspective. Nothing related to the society as a whole. Always We, and them and how to squize as much as possible from citizens.

  • @tattygumcancer
    @tattygumcancer 14 днів тому +15

    Once again I feel my internal organs shrivel up for a Georg video. Nothing makes me feel so alive

    • @CraftyF0X
      @CraftyF0X 14 днів тому +1

      I must say he knows a thing or two about captivating story telling.

  • @metaleclipse
    @metaleclipse 14 днів тому +61

    I felt like this rode the line between endorsing and rejecting the conclusions of "The Limits To Growth". I'm so used to everything coming in the flavor of strong bias that right now I'm wondering if my judgment ability is offline or if George was subtly utilizing a scathing support or disapproval of the document. Or was he going for a "journalistic" approach. Remember "journalism"? Anyone? That was when I was a kid and the news was supposed to just relay facts. For real. That actually was a thing. I think. Maybe they just said it was a thing back then. Maybe this video is a very subtle commentary on the fact that journalism no longer exists.

    • @tidypog3272
      @tidypog3272 14 днів тому +5

      And maybe you should hush up 😭

    • @Zoroasterisk
      @Zoroasterisk 14 днів тому

      ​@@tidypog3272no u

    • @zefft.f4010
      @zefft.f4010 14 днів тому

      You are mistaken. The news *never* just relayed the facts. They relayed the facts that were acceptable or beneficial (to them) for you to hear, as they still do. I don't know how old you are exactly, but news in the 50's, 60's, 70's and beyond was just as full of propaganda as it is today. Just more subtle, probably because their only real competition was foreign news media. Now, information is everywhere. Television can no longer completely control what information is presented to you.

    • @ChrisChocol
      @ChrisChocol 14 днів тому +2

      keep looking, it's out there
      I mean this is pretty good journo, no?
      if you're not satisfied with what you're reading, you haven't looked enough

    • @qwopiretyu
      @qwopiretyu 14 днів тому

      They definitely just said it was a thing, no matter what era you were born in the newspaper was a propaganda rag. Don't even start with tv news. There has always of course been less biased actual investigation but it's the exception not the rule

  • @KarmaSpaz12
    @KarmaSpaz12 14 днів тому +40

    "We're all winners, just keep telling yourselves that in case you forget. And remember as well that someone out there wants your cookie you got for coming first place. They want two first place cookies, more even. They're not a winner, they're a loser. But don't worry, if you give me a part of your cookie, I'll make them go away. No need to keep asking me for a part of your cookie, I'll help myself. Just remember that if you find yourself without your first place cookie at all, it was that other guy, not me who took it from you."

    • @freshbornmute2752
      @freshbornmute2752 14 днів тому +1

      That's true. I am the cookie.

    • @ronindebeatrice
      @ronindebeatrice 13 днів тому +4

      That sounds like Cave Johnston.

    • @atomictraveller
      @atomictraveller 13 днів тому

      but the bunch of guys at the lodge with the black and white tile floors, still ignore that, that's irrelevant huh crazy

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 12 днів тому +1

      Welcome to the jungle. We've got what you need. You can have anything you want, but you'd better not take it from me.

    • @liamskeo1768
      @liamskeo1768 10 днів тому

      i hope we dont run out of the resources to make my cookie

  • @teacherdude
    @teacherdude 14 днів тому +8

    Always good to see Georg referencing that well-known 70s feel-good sci-fi classic, Soylent Green.

  • @3DAndy76
    @3DAndy76 14 днів тому +17

    Reminds me of the interview with the EPA guy in HBO's "The Newsroom". Can't wait for part two.

  • @CSGraves
    @CSGraves 12 днів тому +34

    When I hear politicians go on about 'growth', I can help but imagine tumours.

    • @iandougall7169
      @iandougall7169 11 днів тому +1

      That's how politicians see us

    • @Ptaku93
      @Ptaku93 10 днів тому +2

      *can't

    • @CSGraves
      @CSGraves 10 днів тому +1

      @@Ptaku93 Argh, another typo! If it wasn't for these damned TUMOURS...

    • @Debbie-henri
      @Debbie-henri 9 днів тому +1

      Tumour is a word that describes a politician perfectly.

    • @DrDanQ92
      @DrDanQ92 9 днів тому +3

      That is what capitalism is. Unending growth in a limited system.

  • @chadthundercock4806
    @chadthundercock4806 14 днів тому +55

    Probably not gonna end. People don't really understand how supply economics work, things won't suddenly end, they just get gradually worse.

    • @Danuxsy
      @Danuxsy 14 днів тому +11

      a lot of things in history has suddenly ended.

    • @quillo2747
      @quillo2747 13 днів тому +4

      ​@@DanuxsyName one? It took centuries for the roman empire to collapse into the dark ages.

    • @ucantSQ
      @ucantSQ 12 днів тому +17

      @quillo2747 France killed off their monarchy and went to war with the rest of the world in a relatively short time. Russia did much the same, in their own way. Sometimes things change slowly. Sometimes the pressure builds until things change all at once.

    • @hellodelightfulrando
      @hellodelightfulrando 12 днів тому +8

      @@quillo2747 love when dudes’ go to example is the Roman Empire. There is so much more history out there than the Roman Empire fam

    • @spaman7716
      @spaman7716 12 днів тому +2

      ​@@hellodelightfulrandoYeah but a lot of it is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things when talking about today, the Roman Republic and its transition to an empire are very pertinent to the modern age.

  • @glyph2011
    @glyph2011 14 днів тому +21

    This does remind me of many depressing Adam Curtis films. That’s a huge compliment , by the way.

    • @HonestSonics
      @HonestSonics 14 днів тому +6

      'But this was a fantasy...'

    • @GeorgRockallSchmidt
      @GeorgRockallSchmidt  13 днів тому +10

      “And what they found… was *extraordinary*”

    • @NickLaslett
      @NickLaslett 13 днів тому +3

      Curtis actually covers this text and the council of Rome

    • @antpoo
      @antpoo 12 днів тому +1

      I immediately thought of Adam Curtis at the very start also. I wonder what he is doing now. Ps, I loved his stories.

    • @jameseden9380
      @jameseden9380 10 днів тому

      Nothing since the welsh drama, we wait with baited breath ​@@antpoo

  • @db5823
    @db5823 14 днів тому +16

    Ok, hear me out, Soylent Chartreuse. We take the tasty Soylent Green and blend it with the Soylent Yellow, thereby extending our resources by making a more palatable Soylent option that is far more sustainable.
    We are working on Soylent Orange, but there have been issues. Soylent orange is generally not as appealing to consumers as Soylent Chartreuse, and many consumers complain that they expected Soylent Orange to have an orange fruit-like taste (which it does not).

    • @iGame3D
      @iGame3D 14 днів тому +4

      How about Juicey Soylent, it's soylent of every color, but in stripes! Nibble slow on the part you like, make it last because it's all you're getting until next Tuesday.

    • @freshbornmute2752
      @freshbornmute2752 14 днів тому +2

      GO AWAY BigSoy! I AM NOT EATING YOUR SOYLENT! I AM NOT A SOYBOY!

    • @chada75
      @chada75 13 днів тому

      But Soylent is made of People! IT'S PE-OPLE!

    • @billlumbergh9251
      @billlumbergh9251 12 днів тому +6

      Don't forget soylent zero for those trying to watch their figure

    • @Trace-l7k
      @Trace-l7k 10 днів тому +1

      @@freshbornmute2752it’s PEOPLE!! Say you never saw the movie without saying the words.

  • @PlatinumAltaria
    @PlatinumAltaria 13 днів тому +51

    It's interesting that everyone was wrong. Malthus was wrong that population would outstrip supply, as we observe population growth declining. On the other hand the optimists were wrong that there would be a technological solution, and we have overexploited our planet's natural abundance in a way that isn't sustainable.

    • @quillo2747
      @quillo2747 13 днів тому

      Nuclear power can easily be the technical solution. But its politics stopping it from happening.

    • @SwordJames
      @SwordJames 12 днів тому +20

      Malthus may have been incorrect on supply and demand, but when I look at every city centre being full of miserable dis functional violent deviants and look back to the end state of the Mouse Utopia experiments, I think he stumbled on some correct conclusions.

    • @DS-lk3tx
      @DS-lk3tx 11 днів тому

      Stop moving to rural areas when you destroy the cities you inherited.

    • @KateeAngel
      @KateeAngel 11 днів тому +8

      Malthus was right in how we described what was happening in his day, he was wrong about predictions and possible solutions. And new revisions of Limits to Growth show in fact we are following the predicted trajectory in many ways

    • @KateeAngel
      @KateeAngel 11 днів тому +12

      ​​@@SwordJames city centres in America are bad due to suburbanisation, car-centric development and consequences of past segregation. Where I live city centres are the most elite places, with insanely expensive apartments, and all the places worth visiting

  • @diegoaespitia
    @diegoaespitia 11 днів тому +8

    i think the issue here is that no one couldve predicted population collapse from no one having children in developed nations. everyone thought we would continue to grow our population. i believe our population will shrink before we run out of resources. climate change will end us as it will drain the most precious resource of all, water.

    • @psy-op
      @psy-op 9 днів тому +1

      No water ?
      But due to your imagined climate change we get lots of rain and flooding all over the world. That flooding is actually caused by man made Geo Engineering, not climate change.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 9 днів тому

      Climate change won't get rid of water though. Have you even looked at any of the mate modles? Even the most catestrophic (and so far extemely unreliable) modles show that the overall presipitation will actually increase. Some regions will be drier yes, others will be wetter.
      You climate change almarists are just as much science deniers as climate change denialists. Worse infact.

  • @kevinmcqueenie7420
    @kevinmcqueenie7420 14 днів тому +8

    So I only have to wait half a decade to start singing "Five Years" by Bowie without feeling disingenuous? OK, good to know.

  • @Bodomi
    @Bodomi 14 днів тому +17

    You should make a video showcasing your cast iron pans, film it as if you're a big cast iron enthusiast channel, talk as if you have like 10 years worth of cooking and cast iron review videos, plans for the future, etc, etc, etc.
    Just a thought.

  • @TheMoovix1
    @TheMoovix1 13 днів тому +17

    Also by The Club of Rome in a publication entitled The First Global Revolution : "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.". Don't swallow your enemies propaganda.

    • @andrewbaumann2661
      @andrewbaumann2661 12 днів тому +5

      Well I guess pollution isn't a problem then. Thank God for that!

    • @TheMoovix1
      @TheMoovix1 12 днів тому +4

      @@andrewbaumann2661 Of course pollution a problem and a tool. Fixing pollution would be far from an insurmountable task if there were a will to do so. Likely food shortages will be also at some point. All will culminate into totalitarian controls over our lives if nothing is done to stop it.

    • @dodgechallenger2116
      @dodgechallenger2116 11 днів тому +4

      Club of Rome said back in the 70s, we'd all be dead by now.

  • @ellingeidbo8469
    @ellingeidbo8469 13 днів тому +4

    So long as we are unwilling to change, there will always be an impassable obstacle.

  • @glass7923
    @glass7923 14 днів тому +7

    And good day to you too, Georg!

  • @DanHowardMtl
    @DanHowardMtl 13 днів тому +5

    Good news is that these clowns are wrong about everything. Lighten up George.

  • @GeckoHiker
    @GeckoHiker 8 днів тому +3

    The people who will continue to thrive are those who choose to work a little harder at embracing minimalism and getting off the voluntary treadmill of the aquisition of consumer clutter.
    We did this in the 1970s, achieving independence by refusing both debt and detritus. We put sweat equity into homestead living. We can live easily on the hidden resources of our modest looking property.
    The key is to choose a place that nobody else can easily find and that no corporation will try to steal via "emminent domain". We also volunteer in our local community so that we can see when things start to go bad more quickly. Don't worry. Our system will implode in another hundred years but an autocrat will promise to fix it before the end. Keep buying frapoe-latte-chinos and junk food. Keep giving your wealth to corporations. Nothing to see here!

  • @mr.nobodymc9741
    @mr.nobodymc9741 14 днів тому +3

    It truly is the old Scottish proper verb of “what are you selling and how much does it cost?”

  • @Gary_Hun
    @Gary_Hun 14 днів тому +8

    What is even growth, anyways?.. really, it's just a bunch of increasing statistics in the eye of investors. It does not take quality into account whatsoever. Economical stagnation is nothing to be worried about, it means you have reached a nice environment, now it's time for intelligence to flourish.

  • @michaelfiori6700
    @michaelfiori6700 6 днів тому

    Followed you for yeara man. Thanks for the content.
    Just everyone know its gonna be okay.
    No matter what we all get put back in the box once the game is finished.

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean 12 днів тому +25

    As a scientist, I am endlessly frustrated at humanity's refusal to course correct. I don't see our species surviving to see the end of the millennia.

    • @ishmaelmcgoo2945
      @ishmaelmcgoo2945 11 днів тому +6

      Millenium is awfully optimistic! Taking your words literally, I agree, because if we we're unlikely to make it through the next couple of centuries, we can't make it to the next millenium, but I think the clock is ticking much faster. Gotta love that scientific precaution and modesty (I'm not insulting you, I do love it, it's why scientists should speak out more and people who aren't as good at reasoning should speak less and listen more). Humanity is trashing its environment so quickly and doing so little planning for how it's going to deal with the crises that will come from this, that we're almost certainly headed towards a significant collapse after a chain reaction. Even a moderate reduction in food production combined with a large increase in migration due to climate change will lead to conflict, which will reduce our ability to provide for everyone, which will lead to more conflict, in a death spiral. Not only that but most people will have forgotten how to live a less technologically advanced lifestyle, and the environmental devastation will make it much harder for those who do know. On the other hand, anything can happen in that length of time. It's fully possible to produce people who are forward-thinking and responsible under the right conditions, and those people may become very powerful and correct the course. We have to let go greed and classism if that's going to happen though, because right now a lot of the most capable people are totally spellbound by their power and status and not doing much for the world.

    • @Trace-l7k
      @Trace-l7k 10 днів тому

      I’d be surprised if the human species survives another decade.
      Climate change will impact all. Insects are constantly becoming extinct, if one of those species is the honey bees, humanity has only a few years left.

    • @CIB8282
      @CIB8282 10 днів тому

      If you're a scientist then you'd be aware of how adaptable humans are from a survival standpoint. Yes, society is screwed but tribes of people will exist unless Earth is completely destroyed.

    • @bonitajanssen745
      @bonitajanssen745 9 днів тому +1

      “Behold, I come quickly.” ~ Jesus
      BOOK OF REVELATION IS COMING TO PASS

    • @Debbie-henri
      @Debbie-henri 9 днів тому +1

      As a gardener, I have to agree. I argue with people who claim there is no climate change, even though they know I am as connected with the environment as it is possible to be.
      Every year, for the past 20 years, but the years following the pandemic in particular, something changes, often drastically.
      The smell of the air, the power of the sun - and the 'different' way it burns skin and leaves, the way I cannot scent rain on the wind anymore, the overall diminishing productivity of soil (even though I do more to feed it than ever), the sudden omissions in insect/animal species - which are then replaced by feral/invasive/highly adaptable 'vermin' species, the way insect species are migrating to and past my location at an increasing rate, peculiar growth rates in plant species - enabling some to suddenly dominate beyond the normal balance, the massive increase in plant diseases (blights this year have been at their worst), the change in wild species balance, and the despairing rate at which people are just giving up (obvious by the increasing rate they are willing to befoul the landscape around them, buy silly stuff to distract themselves from immediate problems, continue to try and keep up with the Joneses (like that's the most important thing), and breed indiscriminately (with no thought of their children's future in a fast diminishing world.

  • @shlep444
    @shlep444 13 днів тому +1

    i was just thinking of your channel the other day and couldnt remember what you were called. and there you were in my recommends. i like you

  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison8478 12 днів тому +2

    Orwell once quipped that there are some ideas that are so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them. But now, it's clear that his view was much too limited. There are even some ideas that are so profoundly ridiculous that to fully describe them requires a whole gathering of intellectuals, and a whole global media system to distribute them.

  • @EllisThings
    @EllisThings 14 днів тому +3

    This was a fun one. More of this content please.

  • @sword_of_damocle5
    @sword_of_damocle5 3 дні тому +2

    Malthus and his supporters have constantly been proven wrong. His thesis was published prior to the industrial revolution, something that his projections could have never accounted for. He was fond of the British aristocracy and looked down on the poor as savages whose impulses should be regulated by the wealthy elites. His ideas would later come to serve as the basis for eugenics and later on, fascism.
    Those who support him knowing this do so not out of a sense of genuine concern for humanity's future but because they seek to feel superior to it.

  • @Armored_Saint
    @Armored_Saint 11 днів тому +1

    World turns slowly. Sun don't shine. Silence stills the air and kills the chime. ~ Black Sabbath (1990)

  • @universome511
    @universome511 14 днів тому +2

    it's been five minutes to midnight for the last 74 years

  • @waqas4318
    @waqas4318 14 днів тому +4

    Georg, you have become my favorite Englishmen living in the states.

  • @ironickrempt
    @ironickrempt 11 днів тому +1

    I would recommend reading “Cadillac Desert” to anyone interested in the bit about agriculture. Haunting book that one. If you are looking for hopium in regards to agriculture, I recommend doing some reading on Cuban agricultural reforms following the collapse of the USSR.

  • @martonlerant5672
    @martonlerant5672 12 днів тому +4

    3:19 - 3D printing was invented and patented about the time the guy gave his speech. He didnt predict 50 years of innovation. Frankly what this example illustrates best is the utter failure of patent system at promoting innovation.

    • @martonlerant5672
      @martonlerant5672 12 днів тому +1

      Also lets not forget that the USSR wanted to create something like the internet for a long time. Sadly (?) soviet cybernetics failed partly thanks to decades of neglect during the Stalin era ban.
      The most surprising thing about thd internet is that it came from the west.

    • @martonlerant5672
      @martonlerant5672 12 днів тому +1

      Issue with limits to growth is quiet fundamental.
      It makes.predictions based on 5 variables. The sources for which migth as well be "i pulled em strait outta my backaide".
      Most obviously this includes himan fertility.
      Less obviously it pretends that currently economically viable reserves, are the same thing, as...
      ...not just currently technologically exploitable (anything but cheapest to exploit) reserves...
      ...not justcurrently known reserves...
      ...but total sum of all reserves known and unknown that exist on the planet.
      It also makes truly extreme assumptions about technological possibility of recycling.
      ...in essence the conclusion of the book is a good demonstration of the "garbage in -> garbage out" style of theorycrafting.

    • @martonlerant5672
      @martonlerant5672 12 днів тому +1

      Except whaling hasnt killed itself.
      As of now (in 2024) 8t could be slowly restarted - as whales are slowly recovering - with an appropriate quota.system.
      Were it not for legal prohibitions.

    • @martonlerant5672
      @martonlerant5672 12 днів тому +1

      Issue is that (outside planned economies) there is no inherent "worth" of resources.
      As such the "it becomes more effort to extract resources than their worth" is a fucked argument. As estimates of worth used are frankly made up - including by authors of said book.

  • @RandallSlick
    @RandallSlick 7 днів тому

    Thanks for your work. I find that your videos back-to-back with Just Have a Think's are a welcome antidote to the relentless jollity and good news of todays mediaspace. Refreshing.

  • @kelownatechkid
    @kelownatechkid 14 днів тому +3

    Excited for part 2!

  • @GruntKF
    @GruntKF 8 днів тому

    Looking forward to part 2. One of the most impactful things about the limits to growth imo is how it has been scrutinized over time yet still appears to hold water, even as recently as 2023. Our ruling class should be held accountable as criminals for so blatantly ignoring such insight and insisting upon a status quo that has already unjustly costed lives.

  • @midiminion6580
    @midiminion6580 12 днів тому +1

    The only thing we have an unlimited supply of is human creativity. We should start moving to an arts economy. Unfortunately, we view arts as commodities these days.

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus4252 14 днів тому +6

    Glad we have dependable power sources like hydroelectric geothermal nuclear etc...

    • @gopro2804
      @gopro2804 14 днів тому

      There are limits to the output of all of these. There are limits to how many can be built too. There are limits to how much nuclear waste the earth can handle. It all generates heat and waste. There are limits to how much heat and waste the planet can take.

    • @HiNickCares
      @HiNickCares 14 днів тому

      And coal.

    • @tattygumcancer
      @tattygumcancer 14 днів тому

      ​@@HiNickCares and moon rocks

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer 14 днів тому

      And Hiptang.

  • @Otherlevel51
    @Otherlevel51 5 днів тому +2

    There is enough growth for everyone. Only problem is oligarchs dont want competition

    • @ADITYAMISHRA-h7g
      @ADITYAMISHRA-h7g Годину тому

      Respectfully disagree about growth, but the point about oligarchs is true.
      From a fellow aston martin fan

  • @EvgeneXI
    @EvgeneXI 14 днів тому +11

    There’s been “sequels” published since TLtG but they aren’t particularly optimistic either.
    But what gets me is that it’s obvious. All these companies and governments seeking constant growth are deluded. EVERYTHING is finite.

  • @AnyoneCanSee
    @AnyoneCanSee 8 днів тому

    I've just discovered your channel. This is an excellent video. Thanks

  • @TheDoomWizard
    @TheDoomWizard 13 днів тому +9

    Ah yes the yearly reminder of how effed we are. Thanks for this.

  • @kenon6968
    @kenon6968 14 днів тому +2

    If Georg had access to the BBC footage and sound libraries he would be on the par with Adam Curtis

  • @Glaucus08
    @Glaucus08 14 днів тому +10

    Another critique of Malthus is the self-fulfilling nature of Malthusian driven economic policy - take the Great Famine in Ireland, where the supposed overgrowth of the Irish population led to the disaster, despite very limited state intervention and continued food exports

    • @postmodernmining
      @postmodernmining 14 днів тому +8

      I would say severe state intervention, just not in a good way.

    • @legend36555
      @legend36555 12 днів тому +2

      And by state, you mean hostile British occupiers.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 9 днів тому

      @legend36555 and by hostile British occupiers you mean the Irish.
      The Irish nationalists like to pretend they were oppressed, but they had power in the British government, and their local governments. And these were elected by the Irish. Ie No more and no less than any other British subjects.

    • @legend36555
      @legend36555 9 днів тому

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 you haven't a clue

  • @brushstroke3733
    @brushstroke3733 7 днів тому +1

    Sounds like every discussion on Nate Hagens' channel.

  • @tedarcher9120
    @tedarcher9120 14 днів тому +4

    Peak oil is just around the corner guys i promise just arohnd the corner

  • @gnardawgyt
    @gnardawgyt 12 днів тому

    One of your very best videos, really hope there actually is a part 2!

  • @TruthSword7
    @TruthSword7 14 днів тому +14

    I think these types of reports also make the wrong assumption of thinking that they truly know how much of a given resource is available on the whole planet. And more importantly, they assume that humanity was intended to go on just as it is now, forever. Which we aren't.

    • @effexon
      @effexon 14 днів тому +7

      ive seen lectures on youtube where they explain this mining thing exactly.... smaller amounts of cromium of copper per ton of rock is gathered nowadays meaning more energy and effort is needed to get same output. eg uranium mines stop mining when price goes too low. perhaps in china and couple other places taxpayer subsidizes it for their domestic industry so we dont see total collapse.

    • @waqas4318
      @waqas4318 14 днів тому +2

      and wildly ignoring plastics

    • @Linterna001
      @Linterna001 9 днів тому

      I think there was an update somewhere in the last years that said that we were currently tracking for BAU2 and CT which are two of the four main scenarios proposed by the original LtG.

  • @prophecyrat2965
    @prophecyrat2965 11 днів тому +1

    Keep Manifesting that Destiny Humanity 🦾🤖🏭🔥☢️💀

  • @Retrostar619
    @Retrostar619 13 днів тому +5

    "Human behavior is economic behavior. The particulars may vary, but competition for limited resources remains a constant. Need as well as greed have followed us to the stars, and the rewards of wealth still await those wise enough to recognize this deep thrumming of our common pulse."
    ~ CEO Nwabudike Morgan on The Centauri Monopoly

  • @JoeSims1776
    @JoeSims1776 13 днів тому +2

    Great. Now I’m going to have nightmares about chromium depletion.

  • @matthewjouffray
    @matthewjouffray 12 днів тому +3

    I think the biggest flaw in this model is how it doesn’t account for innovations for closed production cycles. Not only do new technologies make previously not viable resource extraction viable, but we get better at recycling and re-using previously extracted elements. We are also getting way better at producing energy at scale despite the pause in nuclear. At the end of the day the real limits to growth are energy and matter, none of which are really scarce.

  • @CybershamanX
    @CybershamanX 13 днів тому +2

    We will all harangue that bell until YT stops with the bell shenanigans! 😉☮️😎🤘

  • @PoptartParasol
    @PoptartParasol 14 днів тому +16

    Funny that, I had a class where my teacher used him as an example of someone who was completely wrong about technological growth because 'see? we didn't run out of food yet!'.
    And this is why I've regretted ever being in school, It was a waste of my time and filled with teachers dumber than their own students

    • @JohnSmith-mc2zz
      @JohnSmith-mc2zz 13 днів тому +7

      But he was wrong...

    • @saddemgargouri
      @saddemgargouri 13 днів тому

      So the Population collapse thesis can never be proven wrong ? basically some pseudoreligion gibberish , is that what you're saying ?
      Your teacher is wrong because elevated it to a credible scientific thesis and tried to test it
      Because none of the predictions are even close to be achieved . We aren't running of anything
      We produce so much food , that we use most of it to feed animals to produce meat .

    • @handanyldzhan9232
      @handanyldzhan9232 13 днів тому +2

      ​​​@@JohnSmith-mc2zzWhy? What about pollution and resources other than food? Granted, some very promising and potentially sustainable replacement materials (bio-based and others) are being invented, but what if it's too little too late? The book's points are still mostly valid.

    • @JohnSmith-mc2zz
      @JohnSmith-mc2zz 12 днів тому +6

      @@handanyldzhan9232 Because the thing he predicted isn't going to happen, at least not in the timeframe he said. And that's okay.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 9 днів тому

      @handanyldzhan9232 he is wrong about every other resource though. Improving technology and simple discovery has opened up more deposits of pretty much every nonrenewable resource and we use every non-Renewables resource more efficiently despite still using them extremely wast fully compared to how we could be useing them. We are not running out of anything anytime soon.

  • @frantisekcerny6677
    @frantisekcerny6677 14 днів тому +1

    What a video!!! looking forward to part two!! :)))

  • @Kittysuit
    @Kittysuit 14 днів тому +37

    "i ThInK tHeSe TyPeS oF rEpOrTs ArE dUmB cAuSe WhO kNoWs HoW mUcH wE hAvE oF wHaT rEsOuRcE aNd HoW mUcH wE nEeD" the nerds commenting this have never played a video game where it becomes harder to find a certain type of resource the longer the game goes on. IT IS CALLED COMMON SENSE, RICHARD.

    • @mojavefry2617
      @mojavefry2617 14 днів тому +4

      Anyone who ever played Age of Empires and relied on a strategy that made he at use of one particular resource would know that.
      Like, if you’re using wood for A LOT of things, you’re going to start running out of trees quickly.

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer 14 днів тому +14

      The world is a tad more complex than a computer game.

    • @mojavefry2617
      @mojavefry2617 14 днів тому +5

      @@CarrotConsumer That’s true, but the principle still exists regardless. You use too much of a resource too quickly, you’re going to run out. And that’s real bad when your entire infrastructure relies on said resource.

    • @iGame3D
      @iGame3D 14 днів тому

      @@CarrotConsumer We live in a simulation, all that will be left us soon is the data points of hour history. The data already tells us that taking and using the resources we have found to date is making our planet unsurvivable, defeating the entire point of progress in the first place. Doesn't matter if you still have five rounds in the gun, if one has entered your brain.

    • @franslair2199
      @franslair2199 14 днів тому +2

      ​​@@CarrotConsumerthe computer game is attempting to model an approximation of a clearly real principle

  • @vitorafmonteiro
    @vitorafmonteiro 12 днів тому

    "to undermine the idea of a proletariat utopia (and we were so close!)..."
    And those side remarks are why I love Georg's stuff.

  • @EmmanuelMess
    @EmmanuelMess 14 днів тому +5

    The thing I don't understand of this logic is that it assumes that per person consumption of resources increases exponentially, even if everyone disposes of most things every year (think from smartphones to houses), the actual resource consumption per person over time will tend to be linear. Maybe with population growth consumption can increase in line with population growth, but with current birth rate trends, it doesn't seem like long term population increases will realize.

    • @antonyjh1234
      @antonyjh1234 14 днів тому +1

      Give half the people in the world an extra five dollars a day and they could double their consumption, Africa is supposed to be almost half the world by 2100, I don't think there needs to be population growth to still have exponential resource consumption, it's possible the next 100 years looks like the last 200.
      With such a large percentage of the world turning over 65, it will be interesting how the next few decades goes as these people have consumed or bought most of their goods that will see them out.

    • @EmmanuelMess
      @EmmanuelMess 14 днів тому

      @@antonyjh1234 For low incomes, economic growth might have an exponential effect on resource consumption, but I don't think that a 40k a year income produces exponentially more raw resource consumption than a 20k a year income. Taking into account economies of scale, it might even be that as more people can afford certain goods, the industrial infrastructure gets "cheaper per person" (same factory divided between more people).
      That said, I don't know how many raw resources people will use when/if they have first world level incomes, but I suspect that it will be less than expected, because of the capitalistic incentive for efficiency.

    • @antonyjh1234
      @antonyjh1234 13 днів тому

      @@EmmanuelMess As I say it doesn't need to be the difference between 40k and 20, it could be an extra 2k that could achieve that and the potential to get them to 10 times that exists.

    • @EmmanuelMess
      @EmmanuelMess 13 днів тому

      @@antonyjh1234 Yes, but my point is that you can't expect the same people to consume exponentially more every year forever, even when you take into account large income growth. Even if they consume exponentially more for say 10 or 15 years of their lives, it seems to me that resources wouldn't be depleted fast enough to make a dent on global production, especially after taking into account the economic incentives to ramp up production of those specific goods that will be most consumed.

    • @antonyjh1234
      @antonyjh1234 13 днів тому

      @@EmmanuelMess Of course not, I'm saying exponential can continue, Africa will be almost half the world population over the next 80 years, even if the west maintain spending, exponential growth can still happen. They of course have resources and arable land so whether they will be a big drain on current accounts of resources of more will be found is yet to be seen. I think they have 9 of the worlds 13% that is arable land, largely untouched, the consumption they and the world over the next 80 years could be the same as the last 200.

  • @jonashansen6391
    @jonashansen6391 7 днів тому +1

    Universal Paperclips being a reality, here we come baybee!

  • @ioannestheiberian3955
    @ioannestheiberian3955 14 днів тому +2

    I am gonna get popcorn for part two! For real great video. Been thinking a lot about the big civilization questions like this. Pretty sure the rest of the 21st century and a good chunk of the 22nd are gonna be very bad for human civilization. We are in our own 'Bronze Age Collapse' and will go through an actual dark age. That being said I do believe ultimately some form of civilization will survive, but I don't think we will ever see the size and complexity the latter half of the 20th century and the first quarter of the 21st. I am sort of sad I won't get to see what comes after. The historian in me is very interested.

    • @kellywalker1664
      @kellywalker1664 12 днів тому +1

      Maybe the Solar Punks won't be as Utopian as we think they are. Stranger things have happened and hope springs eternal .

    • @ioannestheiberian3955
      @ioannestheiberian3955 12 днів тому

      @@kellywalker1664 I agree. I tend to think our future will look Solar Punk but won't be the peaceful utopia we usually envisioned it as. I think we will see little solar punk city states competing with each other.

  • @Jose-se9pu
    @Jose-se9pu 14 днів тому +15

    I think most of us, at least in the west, can "feel" some sort of "end" is getting closer and closer since the pandemic...and the pandemic was almost 5 freaking years ago.

    • @TheDidgerideuces
      @TheDidgerideuces 13 днів тому +5

      I dunno, it felt earlier for me, way earlier, 2012.

    • @thefranken-thing
      @thefranken-thing 13 днів тому +2

      People keep talking about a "pandemic" happening a few years back, but I have no idea what they're talking about. Let's try to isolate exactly when it is alleged to have occurred. Was it before or after the authoritarian government clampdown?🤨🤔

    • @kellywalker1664
      @kellywalker1664 12 днів тому

      Polycrises have erosive effects on our fragile bubbles of civilization. Expect more in the coming years to cocktail with Overshoot and Climate Change.

    • @Random-ne3ed
      @Random-ne3ed 12 днів тому

      Sucks to have not owned any SP500 then I take it.

  • @MpowerdAPE
    @MpowerdAPE 9 днів тому

    getting my "Road Warrior" costume together......

  • @dirk8839
    @dirk8839 14 днів тому +3

    Sounds like a very Malthusian idea, just applied more broadly.

    • @dirk8839
      @dirk8839 14 днів тому

      17:00 -> called it

  • @prez58
    @prez58 14 днів тому +3

    I was always going to die anyway.

  • @Potz4pizza
    @Potz4pizza 11 днів тому

    Hell yeah. Can't wait for graphs.

  • @9delta988
    @9delta988 14 днів тому +15

    Third world refers to non aligned nations. So Yugoslavia and indonesia, one socialist and one capitalist, were both thrid world countries. It has nothing to do if a nation is developed or not.

    • @noleftturnunstoned
      @noleftturnunstoned 14 днів тому +20

      It once did. But it is more conventionally used to refer to underdeveloped nations these days, or for about the last 30 years or so.

    • @marko1263
      @marko1263 14 днів тому +2

      Well Yugoslavia was the only semi-developed non-aligned nation, so the conventional use of the word still applies.

    • @andrewklang809
      @andrewklang809 13 днів тому

      You can always play fast and loose with this terminology. China still claims to be a developing country so they can claim various exceptions to WTO regulations, even while crowing that (by some measures) they have the largest economy in the world, and are very eager to use that as a cudgel.

  • @LordZordid
    @LordZordid 9 днів тому

    Ramifications! It's such a lovely word.

  • @dmwalker24
    @dmwalker24 10 днів тому

    On the one hand, the systems and their interactions are exceedingly complex. On the other, that complexity is irrelevant when we're talking about subtracting at an increasing rate from a finite quantity. X + (-X) = 0, no matter how clever you are.

  • @alanjenkins1508
    @alanjenkins1508 14 днів тому +3

    These growth models always ignore innovation because it is impossible to quantify. However innovation can sidestep limits to growth, up to a point.

    • @peterwiley706
      @peterwiley706 14 днів тому +4

      "up to a point" The point of "Limits to Growth" was suggest where the point lies.

    • @newerstillimproved
      @newerstillimproved 13 днів тому

      you should read it. it DOES HAVE scenarios for what happens for instance when there is unlimited pollution free energy, thanks to human ingenuity. arguably makes things worse.
      but yes, human ingenuity will find ways to ignore the problem.

    • @JohnSmith-mc2zz
      @JohnSmith-mc2zz 13 днів тому

      People who confuse a fifty year old prediction with reality are very dumb.

  • @NSGrendel
    @NSGrendel 14 днів тому +2

    I mean, it all would have come true already were it not for adaptations in agriculture and pharmacology.
    Science is keeping us limping along - whilst we deny it every day in parliament and on Facebook.

  • @greghenrikson952
    @greghenrikson952 14 днів тому +2

    Love the Koyaanisqatsi riff.

  • @iandougall7169
    @iandougall7169 11 днів тому

    Thank goodness we have discovered Soylent Green!

  • @askhams
    @askhams 13 днів тому

    Georg, have you got an ETA for Part 2?
    Keep up the good work 👍

  • @coffeewisp16
    @coffeewisp16 14 днів тому +6

    Well, I'm sure the election in November will solve everything.

  • @harrybaulz666
    @harrybaulz666 12 днів тому

    Im 68 so i hope i dont have to worry bout this two

  • @thatfatman6978
    @thatfatman6978 14 днів тому +1

    As a member of the International Bell Protectorate Organization or IBPO, I must inform you that Bells are to be rung, you may ring a Bell, Bells may not be banged, clanged or otherwise cajoled into producing sound. Please, for the sake of Bells everywhere, refrain from promoting such malicious actions in the future.
    P.S I rung your bell.

  • @kebabtank
    @kebabtank 14 днів тому +14

    It makes me laugh when I hear enviromentalists saying that population growth isn't a problem. Here it is: More people means more consumption and eventually we will run out of certain vital resources, it is inevitable. In my lifetime of only 51 years, the human population has doubled from 4 to 8 billion and every 12-13 years you can add on another billion. It is widely agreed that the world's population will peak at somewhere near 10.5 billion. Just think of the resources required to sustain so many people. Decline is inevitable and we cannot simply think our way out of this problem as we are stuck on this planet with an ever growing population. It really is remarkable what we are living through, an incredible rise and a glimpse into a future that I will certainly never live to see. Have a nice weekend!

    • @curiositycloset2359
      @curiositycloset2359 14 днів тому

      Hmm how terrible. Apart from, we are facing a population implosion.

    • @bb1111116
      @bb1111116 14 днів тому +5

      Environmentalists? I refer to “The Population Bomb” written by Paul Erlich and published in 1968. Erlich’s book was accepted by many environmentalists.

    • @effexon
      @effexon 14 днів тому +4

      @@bb1111116 yah but I dont see that mentioned by any greener... they now talk of human rights, implying rich(moneywise) means rich in resources. curious change in those agendas

    • @glass7923
      @glass7923 14 днів тому +3

      Have a nice weekend too

    • @effexon
      @effexon 14 днів тому +3

      Ive thought that too... it is convenient coz all manufacturing is outsourced faraway. but that means they also have jobs and "future" so they have more kids than in west where future is just based on fiat numbers. china is joining that west club now(population wise). but they still wanna manufacture. everything fundamentally needs tons of energy and renewable energy seems bad fix for that. yes there is enough iron ore in world but digging it and smelting and then transporting it to places needs energy sources.
      Fun guessing game(in college take shot/bingo card... for next 10 years) is to guess how and which things fall apart first in this endlessly complex global system.

  • @daveferger9947
    @daveferger9947 14 днів тому

    Oh, so looking forward to part two, Cheers!
    What do you sell in your marketplace, branded revolvers with matching ammo?

  • @quillo2747
    @quillo2747 13 днів тому +10

    People used to think horse manure on the streets would cause cities to collapse. Then the car was invented. The prediction for peak oil production has come and gone many times without it happening.

    • @kellywalker1664
      @kellywalker1664 13 днів тому +3

      It has happened. Peak Oil just means low hanging fruit. There's still a lot left as long as we can subsidize two barrels of oil to pull one out of the ground. Tar Sands would not be a thing otherwise. We ain't no Clampetts anymoar.

    • @dylanfoster7037
      @dylanfoster7037 11 днів тому +1

      Also 😂😂 just want to add, the history of improvents in oil extraction is one of constantly needing new technologies to meet production demands

    • @beth8775
      @beth8775 11 днів тому +4

      Predictions are merely predictions until they start coming true.

    • @kchuk1965
      @kchuk1965 6 днів тому +1

      Are you suggesting there is an infinite supply of oil.

  • @Memoiana
    @Memoiana 8 днів тому

    We will have wrecked the climate and the biodiversity loooooong before we run out of any critical resources.
    We keep on discovering new oil fields and improving extraction methods.

  • @keyserxx
    @keyserxx 11 днів тому

    The Limits To Growth could have been a little longer? The irony was not lost on me.