Thanks bros. So obvious that some people sat down to make the koran a religiously acceptable book. JESUS said " Things done in secret will come to light and be revealed in the open day.."
How come those Islamic scholar still insist that their Qur'an is well preserved while there are so many erasures, insertions and over writings... in the end of times like this, falseness of Islamic teaching must be exposed...
This is a shame, how this people claim that quran is well preserved. If they choose live under a lie, let them live. It's like ask a blind man Do want to see? He answers" No, I'd rather be blind.
If you take these 'changes' to prove that this isn't the word of God because Omg it's been completely fabricated, then I'm sorry to say that the holy Bible(yes I believe it's from God, at least some parts) has no chance and will be ripped to its core. There isn't even a manuscript until after hundreds of years AD and that too different versions written by different saints. My point is, it's a matter of faith not science.
@@ezzahsaifullah by saying the bible is similarly fabricated you are admitting the Quran has been corrupted. And Christians do not say the bible is the exact words of God
Trusted: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Muslim- "The Bible is corrupted" Christian- "The Quran is corrupted" Muslim- "Guess I can't use muslims favorite argument anymore" Christian- "What's done in the dark will come into the light"
Lord Jesus, please give the Muslims spiritual ears and tender hearts to "hear" what this history is exposing. Then give them broken and contrite hearts, to receive it. Amen.
May Allah The One God. Lord of All Lords guide those who seek His true guidance to truth. May Allah blind the misguided and seal both their ears and hearts. I can't wait until the day I tell both the jews and Christians... I TOLD YOU SO!
@@FreeRadical7118 May God (Allah) guide you to the truth for we live in the age of the antichrist. Deception is Al Fadi and I ask God to curse him and seal both 👋 his ears and heart from the truth.
@Betsy Ross Can you read?... May Allah (God,) The Lord of Jesus son of marry guide you to the.... TRUTH! ... I read arabic and comprehend it. You Should read and ask God to guide you to the truth.
A lil off topic but I have a question. In ur opinion what do u think about the theory that puts Petra as the forbidden place and not Mecca. There is a lot of compelling ideas with this theory. Ur thoughts if u have any would be interesting!!
15:26 The Surrah 4:25 does not include the addition you mentioned. It reads وَهُوَ ٱلَّذِى يَقْبَلُ ٱلتَّوْبَةَ عَنْ عِباَدهِِ وَيَعْفوُا۟ عَنِ ٱلسَّيِّأَتِ وَيعَلمَ مَا تفَعْلوُنَ "It is He who accepts the repentance of His worshipers, and remits the sins, and knows what you do." Where is the merciful you are referring to?
Al Fadi is a very intelligent man. I’m sure he can write verse which is coherent, consistent, historically and geographically accurate and which does not advocate violence against people who disagree with his views - in other words, the complete opposite to the Koran.
As a Christian I get Muslims asking me what is stopping me from accepting Islam. It is obvious, all these errors and the copied material from other faiths in the Qur'an, also Muhammad had no miracles.
Im a muslim. I fully understand how the things that makes up a religion is pretty much bullocks, especially in a growing society where development strives on logic and objectivity. Religion in a way can be seen as art. It is put and phrased in a lot of indirect ways in which it incomprehensible, which is why it is scary to believe in such a thing. Islam in Saudi can be very different from Islam in the South East Asia. However, I still will believe in my faith. And I will have no trouble working, being, or is in a relationship who believes otherwise. As christians have differing belief, so does muslims. At the end we are just humans who believe in something that we think is right. I think it is not fair to see a religion as an enemy, but a person as one. I say this as a muslim trying to defend the dignity of his belief, as would any other human who has a belief. I do not wish for you to see it as right, but I want you to at least respect it as it is as I would for yours.
I love the work you guys are doing, subjecting the Quran to textual criticism. I’m concerned with the relevance of any of this because I would believe this only matters if Moslem scholars consider these texts canonical and from Allah himself (not capitalized deliberately). If your intention is proving the Koran was written by committees and retroactively edited and redacted, this makes some sense... I just wish someone would find a few Uthman Recensions and show they are flawed. Nonetheless this shows the Quran was not perfectly transmitted and will place doubt in the minds of the anti-Christian polemicists who delight in saying “which Bible” who frequently and deliberately confuse the issue of translations while avoiding the actual transmission of the biblical texts in the original languages.
Doesn’t the story of the miraj contradict the meaning of Islam of submission to god? Someone who truly submits to god wouldn’t haggle with him to reduce an instruction by god as if he were haggling with a seller to reduce the price of vegetables at a souq
Again this is ridiculous the seven haven exist in many verses in the Quran this non- honest they interpreted as theological changes ??!!!! Why someone needs to add this missing omitted word?
NOT TRUE JESUS WILLINGLY SACRIFICED HIMSELF CRUCIFIED TO REDEEM THE SINS OF MANKIND. THE TRUE IS JESUS WAS ARRESTED BY STRATAGEM AND SENTENCED TO DEATH BY WAY OF CRUCIFIXION BY THE CHIEF PRIEST AND THE ELDERS OF THE JEWISH NATION. READ: MATTHEW 26:1-5 MARK 10:33 MATTHEW 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. ACTS 2:22-24 22. Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23. Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24. Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
Muslims don't say that the Quran was sent down as it is today in the form of a book. We believe that the form we have today with us is what the original Quran was. Nobody is defying the process. People are human, not super humans. They forget, they remember. Corrections might have been made. But we believe that the form that we have in our hand right now is the true form. Allah himself guards it, as He promises. It had to go through all those processes to be this. This is a matter of faith. Blind faith. That's what every religion is about. It's what you believe in your heart. Religion is not science that one would base it on logic and studies. There is logic to it, but only to an extent. GOD Himself cannot be explained through logic, it's faith that makes us believe. Same goes for this. Muslims believe that the Quran we have in hand is the actual Word of Allah. It went through its process, and it finally reached this shape which was always meant to be. Nobody claims that it was written in the time of Prophet and it was as it is today. We say out loud it came into this book form years later.
_"This is a matter of faith. Blind faith. "_ Indeed. You believe in spite of evidence contrary to your beliefs. Not a very wise strategy to gamble your eternal soul on, in my opinion, but to each his own I suppose. _"That's what every religion is about."_ That is false. Christianity is based in history and stands up to scrutiny.
@@ReasonedAnswers I don't want to sound disrespectful but that's the joke of the millennium. God Himself. Prove him through history, science and logic. And Bible, that's not even word of God as Christians say it. Christian scholars say it's man written inspired by God's word. And the first manuscript is of the one written hundreds of years after Jesus. With no chain that leads back to him. No one even knows who Luke or mathew were or how they're linked to Jesus peace be upon him. At least we have a proper chain in Islam. But again, in the Quran Allah tells not to engage in such arguments which have no end I guess to save our own energy. I just prayed for you and I both. I hope we find true guidance.
@@ezzahsaifullah _"Christian scholars say it's man written inspired by God's word. "_ Correct, that is the Christian view of scripture. Why is thata problem for you? Why can't God act in history in that way? Compare this to the Muslim claim that the Quran is the "eternal speech" of Allah when in fact it exactly matches what one would expect a 7th century Arabian to write. Your belief does not hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny, yet you think it is superior? Why? _"And the first manuscript is of the one written hundreds of years after Jesus. "_ False. The earliest manuscripts date to less than 100 years the Gospels were written. And the Gospels themselves were written within 20-40 years of Jesus. But let me ask you, if not being written down until hundreds of years later is a problem, then why do you believe the hadith? No hadith was written down before the 9th century and no manuscript of the hadith collections dates from before the 11th century. _"With no chain that leads back to him."_ false. Here is the chain for Mark: Jesus->Peter>Mark And here is Matthew: Jesus->Matthew and so on. _"No one even knows who Luke or mathew were or how they're linked to Jesus peace be upon him"_ False. We know exactly who they were. Matthew was a disciple of Jesus and Luke was a disciple of Paul. _"At least we have a proper chain in Islam. "_ Anyone can make up a chain just as easily as a hadith. It is meaningless and not something ANY historian uses as a criteria to judge reliability. _"Quran Allah tells not to engage in such arguments"_ Yes, your "god" wants you to remain ignorant of facts. Guess he is not very confident they support his religion. How is this a virtue exactly?
As a Christian at least have some respect to God. My God and your God is the same. We differ in text, but we both worship the same divine being. Please, show some respect here. And I completely disagree with all your claims and we can do this for an entire year. It's not my need to prove anything to anyone. If your believe I'm wrong, good for you. We'll see whose right on the day of judgment. But please, do not disrespect other people's religion and God. Everyone is free to have their belief but no body has the right to belittle anyone or their God. Specially when it's the same as yours, think about that.
@@ezzahsaifullah _"My God and your God is the same. "_ That is not true. At all. You have a totally different conception of who God is. Only one of us can be right (at most). _"I completely disagree with all your claims "_ The difference is I have evidence to back my claims and you either have none or don't want to reveal any. _"It's not my need to prove anything to anyone."_ Of course you don't have to do anything. But you came to a Christian video and made a comment. It is rather silly of you to then complain about being challenged on it. I didn't initiate the conversation, nor am I the one trying to run away from it. _"If your believe I'm wrong, good for you. We'll see whose right on the day of judgment. "_ That is your choice. Personally, I think simply hoping you are right without any evidence is rather unwise, but of course it is your choice what you do with your life. _"But please, do not disrespect other people's religion and God. "_ I respect you as a person, but sorry your so-called god is not worthy of respect. He is a moral monster. Pretending all religions are the same is nonsense. Truth is important. Furthermore, it is because I care about that you that I try to talk to you. If I didn't care, I would simply wave my hand and say "whatever, not my problem if you go to hell"
May be correct your Bible first before you comment on other 50,000 Errors and Biblical contradictions. If the Bible was divinely inspired, then why would it have so many really obvious contradictions?
JESUS NEVER UTTER WORD CHRISTIAN IN THE BIBLE. THIS IS PROVES THAT JESUS IS NOT THE LORD OF CHRISTIANS. JESUS DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHRISTIAN RELIGION. THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP JESUS WITH CHRISTIANITY. THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION IS NOT FROM GOD AND NOT FROM JESUS. BUT THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION IS CREATION OF PAUL. PAUL WAS ORDINARY HUMAN, PAUL IS NOT GOD. THE TRUE RELIGION IS THE RELIGION FROM GOD, NOT RELIGION CREATION OF HUMAN.
Quran with its different Ahrufs are preserved and validated by the prophet Mohamed pbuh and this was abrogation of all before it including the previous books like Enjeel (bible), Thorah or any other books verses revealed before.this happened during the life of the prophet and what we call the last عرضة Aardhah where angel Gabriel complete it twice instead of one time during the month of Ramadan every year. You are not honest guys you are not honest both of you and your stuff working with you.
But God or Allah never spoke to Muhammad, only an angel ( The devil too is an angel and can pretend to be an angel from God). Since God never spoke to Muhammad, how can it be an abrogation to those whom God spoke too. Allah doesn't exist he never speaks.
Yaman Ghazie that’s what many say that he got humiliated “in their dreams”... good morning... are you awake now! The video has nothing to do with the guy in the video... it has to do with corrections made to the Early Quranic manuscripts... do you care to comment or just babble dreams!
@@CIRAInternational he got humiliated regarding the same topic When he was talking about this, in front of ppl who know how to respond to him, he wasn't able to prove anything and he got humiliated It is easy to make a video, claim whatever you want and convince ppl who have no clue what u are talking about It is hard to prove something in a debate
@@CIRAInternational regardless, you need to improve your talking-to-ppl skills What was the point of all this stupid sarcasm? I would expect a comment like that from a kid not from a grown up man
Yaman Ghazie I am sure that’s what you and the others wished that had happened.,, humiliation is a relative term when dealing with damaging issues as this... So I ask again: do you have any real comment about the damaging material shared in this video? Or are you just going to continue with this nonsense?!
Islam is only the fastest breeding religion, but still the world's fastest shrinking religion. If you look at the comment sections below Christian Prince, David Woods, The Apostate Prophet, The Masked Arabs videos, ex-muslims are turning up in record numbers. Pew research could never keep track of the many who deconvert secretly because of apostasy laws and honor killings, being hunted down by their own families. Even some former former Muslim apologists who majored in Quranic study like Ishmael or Abdullah Sameer deconverted after they realized that there were too many strong arguments against Islam they couldn't defend, such as Muhammads marriage to a six year old girl, and his stepsons wife, the raping of his female war captives even if they were already married. They are now very outspoken and are turning many others against Islam. Many Ex Muslim women like Wafa Sultan, Sandra Solomon, Anni Cyrus ect. are also testifying right here on the tube that child marriage, apostasy and blasphemy laws, genital mutilation, amputation, honor killings are still practiced in every predominantly Muslim country as following Muhammads example and instructed by the Quran. Islam will never survive the information age.
iHaka, in spite of using girls and women as breeding stock, islam is shrinking at an average of 16,000 muslims per day because of the worldwide increase in literacy and more easily available information. That's why muslim countries and groups try to block the flow of information. But it's too late, soon islam will shrink to miniscule numbers and go the way of other barbaric, heathenistic deathcults- a bad memory of a bad history. Why don't you seek the God of Abraham- YHWH?
@Leeber Gruber Yeah but the christian god cant be true! Heres the paradoxon If god is completely immortal and was everthing in the beginning then there are problems 1) To create something god must kill parts of him (because he was everything) 2) If he kills a part of him than he is not immortal
@Leeber Gruber I tried a lot of discussions with christians here. Its always the same result : They cant solve contradictions and their only proves are absurd prophecies. Its like talking to a wall
@Leeber Gruber Its sometimes so embarrasing how they try to make arguments. The last one I talked called an non biblical evidence Tacitus! I wrote him do you know the sources from Tacitus? Do you know under which circumstances he wrote? He never answered!
@Leeber Gruber But if only the spirit in Jesus is immortal then what is ressurected? He body remains death so no ressurection and the spirit of Jesus never died so no resurection. Sorry but I dont understand how the ressurection could work!
@Leeber Gruber Do you have a solution how the christian ressurection can work? For me the whole ressurection thing is illogical even if i would believe in Jesus I cant understand what part is ressurected! For me ressurection means dead and then alive again, but no physical part of Jesus ressurected and his soul never was dead. By the way how could Jesus survive if he did miracles? I mean if I would walk with an IPhone in this time then I think I wouldnt survive
I adore this series!!
Love Al Fadis sophistic studio and the level of both teachings!!!!
THANK You Jay, AL Fadi and Pfander Films ❤️
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Is this not the same person ?
Thanks bros.
So obvious that some people sat down to make the koran a religiously acceptable book.
JESUS said " Things done in secret will come to light and be revealed in the open day.."
Where did he Said this?
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Do you want the verse ??
Mathew 19:26
Mark 4:22
@@satmat6566 my question is where ?
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Read the gospels !!
It is all there !!
@@satmat6566 ok. If i listen To you and i do so You garanti me that i can trust it ?
Truly insightful. Lots of data here. Well researched.
How come those Islamic scholar still insist that their Qur'an is well preserved while there are so many erasures, insertions and over writings... in the end of times like this, falseness of Islamic teaching must be exposed...
They argued that the sana'a is just a bad copy of qur'an.
I think there is no a complete playlist about the book.
love you guys so much !!
Brilliant!
This is a shame, how this people claim that quran is well preserved. If they choose live under a lie, let them live. It's like ask a blind man Do want to see? He answers" No, I'd rather be blind.
If you take these 'changes' to prove that this isn't the word of God because Omg it's been completely fabricated, then I'm sorry to say that the holy Bible(yes I believe it's from God, at least some parts) has no chance and will be ripped to its core. There isn't even a manuscript until after hundreds of years AD and that too different versions written by different saints. My point is, it's a matter of faith not science.
@@ezzahsaifullah by saying the bible is similarly fabricated you are admitting the Quran has been corrupted. And Christians do not say the bible is the exact words of God
Thank you for sharing this video...
Trusted: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Muslim- "The Bible is corrupted"
Christian- "The Quran is corrupted"
Muslim- "Guess I can't use muslims favorite argument anymore"
Christian- "What's done in the dark will come into the light"
@Ummer Farooq sure
Cross polination! Good way to put it Al Fadi!
Lord Jesus, please give the Muslims spiritual ears and tender hearts to "hear" what this history is exposing. Then give them broken and contrite hearts, to receive it. Amen.
May Allah The One God. Lord of All Lords guide those who seek His true guidance to truth.
May Allah blind the misguided and seal both their ears and hearts.
I can't wait until the day I tell both the jews and Christians... I TOLD YOU SO!
@@aboodia4315 Where will Allah guide me?
@@FreeRadical7118 May God (Allah) guide you to the truth for we live in the age of the antichrist. Deception is Al Fadi and I ask God to curse him and seal both 👋 his ears and heart from the truth.
@@aboodia4315 Can you not answer my question: WHERE WILL ALLAH GUIDE ME?
@Betsy Ross Can you read?... May Allah (God,) The Lord of Jesus son of marry guide you to the.... TRUTH! ... I read arabic and comprehend it. You Should read and ask God to guide you to the truth.
A lil off topic but I have a question. In ur opinion what do u think about the theory that puts Petra as the forbidden place and not Mecca. There is a lot of compelling ideas with this theory. Ur thoughts if u have any would be interesting!!
Brad stone not sure I follow what you mean by the forbidden place...
@@CIRAInternational may he means (haram).the forbiden place.
15:26
The Surrah 4:25 does not include the addition you mentioned. It reads
وَهُوَ ٱلَّذِى يَقْبَلُ ٱلتَّوْبَةَ عَنْ عِباَدهِِ وَيَعْفوُا۟ عَنِ ٱلسَّيِّأَتِ وَيعَلمَ مَا تفَعْلوُنَ
"It is He who accepts the
repentance of His worshipers, and remits the sins, and knows what you do."
Where is the merciful you are referring to?
Can infrared analysis show some of the original text that has been overwritten or erased?
I can't see the title of the book clearly.
The acid test is can Al Fadi wright verses in arabic that surpass the Quran ?
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Al Fadi is a very intelligent man. I’m sure he can write verse which is coherent, consistent, historically and geographically accurate and which does not advocate violence against people who disagree with his views - in other words, the complete opposite to the Koran.
As a Christian I get Muslims asking me what is stopping me from accepting Islam. It is obvious, all these errors and the copied material from other faiths in the Qur'an, also Muhammad had no miracles.
Im a muslim. I fully understand how the things that makes up a religion is pretty much bullocks, especially in a growing society where development strives on logic and objectivity.
Religion in a way can be seen as art. It is put and phrased in a lot of indirect ways in which it incomprehensible, which is why it is scary to believe in such a thing.
Islam in Saudi can be very different from Islam in the South East Asia.
However, I still will believe in my faith. And I will have no trouble working, being, or is in a relationship who believes otherwise. As christians have differing belief, so does muslims. At the end we are just humans who believe in something that we think is right.
I think it is not fair to see a religion as an enemy, but a person as one.
I say this as a muslim trying to defend the dignity of his belief, as would any other human who has a belief. I do not wish for you to see it as right, but I want you to at least respect it as it is as I would for yours.
I love the work you guys are doing, subjecting the Quran to textual criticism. I’m concerned with the relevance of any of this because I would believe this only matters if Moslem scholars consider these texts canonical and from Allah himself (not capitalized deliberately). If your intention is proving the Koran was written by committees and retroactively edited and redacted, this makes some sense... I just wish someone would find a few Uthman Recensions and show they are flawed. Nonetheless this shows the Quran was not perfectly transmitted and will place doubt in the minds of the anti-Christian polemicists who delight in saying “which Bible” who frequently and deliberately confuse the issue of translations while avoiding the actual transmission of the biblical texts in the original languages.
God bless you both ✊❤️
ghafour rahiym is not the rahiym of the basmala, bur of a similair expression.
kana means was, and inna requires -a inna llaha, kana was added (back) io to justify the masoub ending اً of عڡوا ٯدىرا
otherwise it would have been Inna (a)llaha ghafourUN kabiyrUN (in nominative)
Watch Farid response. He exposes all of these individuals lies.
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Doesn’t the story of the miraj contradict the meaning of Islam of submission to god? Someone who truly submits to god wouldn’t haggle with him to reduce an instruction by god as if he were haggling with a seller to reduce the price of vegetables at a souq
Good job brothers. God bless you.
Again this is ridiculous the seven haven exist in many verses in the Quran this non- honest they interpreted as theological changes ??!!!! Why someone needs to add this missing omitted word?
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We're at #6 already ?
Missed the last two.
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Use UA-cam search for 'CIRA International' the previous 5 are all there.
Fabulous series. Someone may have made corrections, but they didn’t correct the bulldookie contained in the Quran. Peace be upon Grinch!
NOT TRUE JESUS WILLINGLY SACRIFICED HIMSELF CRUCIFIED TO REDEEM THE SINS OF MANKIND.
THE TRUE IS JESUS WAS ARRESTED BY STRATAGEM AND SENTENCED TO DEATH BY WAY OF CRUCIFIXION BY THE CHIEF PRIEST AND THE ELDERS OF THE JEWISH NATION.
READ:
MATTHEW 26:1-5
MARK 10:33
MATTHEW 26:38
Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
ACTS 2:22-24
22. Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23. Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24. Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
This is the popular Qur'an? The one that hasnt been changed? Pathetic
Why I can't see any Muslim here.
I. Need proof the treasure of Solomon catch by me not another person for all hollybook you learn
Where are the Muslims?
Maybe they're tired of trying to defend the indefensible Quran.
well done guys but where are the defenders of islam , are they too ashamed to give feed back or they knew all along the lie
Muslims don't say that the Quran was sent down as it is today in the form of a book. We believe that the form we have today with us is what the original Quran was. Nobody is defying the process. People are human, not super humans. They forget, they remember. Corrections might have been made. But we believe that the form that we have in our hand right now is the true form. Allah himself guards it, as He promises. It had to go through all those processes to be this. This is a matter of faith. Blind faith. That's what every religion is about. It's what you believe in your heart. Religion is not science that one would base it on logic and studies. There is logic to it, but only to an extent. GOD Himself cannot be explained through logic, it's faith that makes us believe. Same goes for this.
Muslims believe that the Quran we have in hand is the actual Word of Allah. It went through its process, and it finally reached this shape which was always meant to be. Nobody claims that it was written in the time of Prophet and it was as it is today. We say out loud it came into this book form years later.
_"This is a matter of faith. Blind faith. "_ Indeed. You believe in spite of evidence contrary to your beliefs. Not a very wise strategy to gamble your eternal soul on, in my opinion, but to each his own I suppose.
_"That's what every religion is about."_ That is false. Christianity is based in history and stands up to scrutiny.
@@ReasonedAnswers I don't want to sound disrespectful but that's the joke of the millennium. God Himself. Prove him through history, science and logic. And Bible, that's not even word of God as Christians say it. Christian scholars say it's man written inspired by God's word. And the first manuscript is of the one written hundreds of years after Jesus. With no chain that leads back to him. No one even knows who Luke or mathew were or how they're linked to Jesus peace be upon him. At least we have a proper chain in Islam. But again, in the Quran Allah tells not to engage in such arguments which have no end I guess to save our own energy. I just prayed for you and I both. I hope we find true guidance.
@@ezzahsaifullah _"Christian scholars say it's man written inspired by God's word. "_ Correct, that is the Christian view of scripture. Why is thata problem for you? Why can't God act in history in that way?
Compare this to the Muslim claim that the Quran is the "eternal speech" of Allah when in fact it exactly matches what one would expect a 7th century Arabian to write. Your belief does not hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny, yet you think it is superior? Why?
_"And the first manuscript is of the one written hundreds of years after Jesus. "_ False. The earliest manuscripts date to less than 100 years the Gospels were written. And the Gospels themselves were written within 20-40 years of Jesus. But let me ask you, if not being written down until hundreds of years later is a problem, then why do you believe the hadith? No hadith was written down before the 9th century and no manuscript of the hadith collections dates from before the 11th century.
_"With no chain that leads back to him."_ false. Here is the chain for Mark:
Jesus->Peter>Mark
And here is Matthew:
Jesus->Matthew
and so on.
_"No one even knows who Luke or mathew were or how they're linked to Jesus peace be upon him"_ False. We know exactly who they were. Matthew was a disciple of Jesus and Luke was a disciple of Paul.
_"At least we have a proper chain in Islam. "_ Anyone can make up a chain just as easily as a hadith. It is meaningless and not something ANY historian uses as a criteria to judge reliability.
_"Quran Allah tells not to engage in such arguments"_ Yes, your "god" wants you to remain ignorant of facts. Guess he is not very confident they support his religion. How is this a virtue exactly?
As a Christian at least have some respect to God. My God and your God is the same. We differ in text, but we both worship the same divine being. Please, show some respect here. And I completely disagree with all your claims and we can do this for an entire year. It's not my need to prove anything to anyone. If your believe I'm wrong, good for you. We'll see whose right on the day of judgment. But please, do not disrespect other people's religion and God. Everyone is free to have their belief but no body has the right to belittle anyone or their God. Specially when it's the same as yours, think about that.
@@ezzahsaifullah _"My God and your God is the same. "_ That is not true. At all. You have a totally different conception of who God is. Only one of us can be right (at most).
_"I completely disagree with all your claims "_ The difference is I have evidence to back my claims and you either have none or don't want to reveal any.
_"It's not my need to prove anything to anyone."_ Of course you don't have to do anything. But you came to a Christian video and made a comment. It is rather silly of you to then complain about being challenged on it. I didn't initiate the conversation, nor am I the one trying to run away from it.
_"If your believe I'm wrong, good for you. We'll see whose right on the day of judgment. "_ That is your choice. Personally, I think simply hoping you are right without any evidence is rather unwise, but of course it is your choice what you do with your life.
_"But please, do not disrespect other people's religion and God. "_ I respect you as a person, but sorry your so-called god is not worthy of respect. He is a moral monster. Pretending all religions are the same is nonsense. Truth is important.
Furthermore, it is because I care about that you that I try to talk to you. If I didn't care, I would simply wave my hand and say "whatever, not my problem if you go to hell"
May be correct your Bible first before you comment on other
50,000 Errors and Biblical contradictions. If the Bible was divinely inspired, then why would it have so many really obvious contradictions?
JESUS NEVER UTTER WORD CHRISTIAN IN THE BIBLE.
THIS IS PROVES THAT JESUS IS NOT THE LORD OF CHRISTIANS.
JESUS DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHRISTIAN RELIGION.
THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP JESUS WITH CHRISTIANITY.
THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION IS NOT FROM GOD AND NOT FROM JESUS. BUT THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION IS CREATION OF PAUL. PAUL WAS ORDINARY HUMAN, PAUL IS NOT GOD.
THE TRUE RELIGION IS THE RELIGION FROM GOD, NOT RELIGION CREATION OF HUMAN.
some actually are in european libraries hhh
Quran with its different Ahrufs are preserved and validated by the prophet Mohamed pbuh and this was abrogation of all before it including the previous books like Enjeel (bible), Thorah or any other books verses revealed before.this happened during the life of the prophet and what we call the last عرضة Aardhah where angel Gabriel complete it twice instead of one time during the month of Ramadan every year. You are not honest guys you are not honest both of you and your stuff working with you.
But God or Allah never spoke to Muhammad, only an angel ( The devil too is an angel and can pretend to be an angel from God). Since God never spoke to Muhammad, how can it be an abrogation to those whom God spoke too. Allah doesn't exist he never speaks.
Utter bollox.
I've seen this guy on speaker corner, he got humiliated
Yaman Ghazie that’s what many say that he got humiliated “in their dreams”... good morning... are you awake now!
The video has nothing to do with the guy in the video... it has to do with corrections made to the Early Quranic manuscripts... do you care to comment or just babble dreams!
@@CIRAInternational
he got humiliated regarding the same topic
When he was talking about this, in front of ppl who know how to respond to him, he wasn't able to prove anything and he got humiliated
It is easy to make a video, claim whatever you want and convince ppl who have no clue what u are talking about
It is hard to prove something in a debate
@@CIRAInternational regardless, you need to improve your talking-to-ppl skills
What was the point of all this stupid sarcasm?
I would expect a comment like that from a kid not from a grown up man
Yaman Ghazie I am sure that’s what you and the others wished that had happened.,, humiliation is a relative term when dealing with damaging issues as this...
So I ask again: do you have any real comment about the damaging material shared in this video? Or are you just going to continue with this nonsense?!
@@CIRAInternational my comment is
If anyone interested about this topic, go look at the video I was talking about for more information
But Islam is the fastest growing religion. So there
That is just propaganda.
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Check up..Christianity has overtaken Islam in Aftica.
Islam is only the fastest breeding religion, but still the world's fastest shrinking religion. If you look at the comment sections below Christian Prince, David Woods, The Apostate Prophet, The Masked Arabs videos, ex-muslims are turning up in record numbers. Pew research could never keep track of the many who deconvert secretly because of apostasy laws and honor killings, being hunted down by their own families. Even some former former Muslim apologists who majored in Quranic study like Ishmael or Abdullah Sameer deconverted after they realized that there were too many strong arguments against Islam they couldn't defend, such as Muhammads marriage to a six year old girl, and his stepsons wife, the raping of his female war captives even if they were already married. They are now very outspoken and are turning many others against Islam. Many Ex Muslim women like Wafa Sultan, Sandra Solomon, Anni Cyrus ect. are also testifying right here on the tube that child marriage, apostasy and blasphemy laws, genital mutilation, amputation, honor killings are still practiced in every predominantly Muslim country as following Muhammads example and instructed by the Quran. Islam will never survive the information age.
iHaka, in spite of using girls and women as breeding stock, islam is shrinking at an average of 16,000 muslims per day because of the worldwide increase in literacy and more easily available information. That's why muslim countries and groups try to block the flow of information. But it's too late, soon islam will shrink to miniscule numbers and go the way of other barbaric, heathenistic deathcults- a bad memory of a bad history. Why don't you seek the God of Abraham- YHWH?
@@LlyneM-rf3gd Considering the number that have to deconvert secretly due to apostasy laws, I suspect that number is even higher.
The bible is also false!
@Leeber Gruber Yeah but the christian god cant be true! Heres the paradoxon
If god is completely immortal and was everthing in the beginning then there are problems
1) To create something god must kill parts of him (because he was everything)
2) If he kills a part of him than he is not immortal
@Leeber Gruber I tried a lot of discussions with christians here. Its always the same result : They cant solve contradictions and their only proves are absurd prophecies. Its like talking to a wall
@Leeber Gruber Its sometimes so embarrasing how they try to make arguments. The last one I talked called an non biblical evidence
Tacitus! I wrote him do you know the sources from Tacitus? Do you know under which circumstances he wrote? He never answered!
@Leeber Gruber But if only the spirit in Jesus is immortal then what is ressurected? He body remains death so no ressurection and the spirit of Jesus never died so no resurection. Sorry but I dont understand how the ressurection could work!
@Leeber Gruber Do you have a solution how the christian ressurection can work? For me the whole ressurection thing is illogical even if i would believe in Jesus I cant understand what part is ressurected! For me ressurection means dead and then alive again, but no physical part of Jesus ressurected and his soul never was dead. By the way how could Jesus survive if he did miracles? I mean if I would walk with an IPhone in this time then I think I wouldnt survive