Fun to read the comments. Teddy Boys to me were cool in the 50's. In Manchester there were area fights. At dances there was always a fight, I thought it was normal. Manchester market lads were almost all Ted's and I know there were some bad fights but I never saw that. So each era had it's rebels and we loved them all..
My Uncle is in this clip!! The one who doesn't want to go home for his tea!! Let me tell you he is one the kindest, loveliest man you could ever meet so there Mr Vicar!! :-)
From teddy boys to mosh pits; Beatles to Nirvana; it's all sadly in the past until some group of teens decide to rebel against their mind-controlling tablets & games!
Vincent,I think you hit the nail on the head mate.Alot of younger Teds in the 50's were of course still at school & working class so couldn't afford a Drape.But they are still Teds.I for one was a Ted before I could afford a Drape.All I had was a bootlace Tie & a tub of Brylcreem.
@HepCatmobile Absolutely, there is a great misconception about the whole Ted thing,[ I was there.] A lot of this video is spot on, because it is from the actual time. The later Teds are good, they have kept the scene going. The dress is a bit over the top But the Teds know it. Good on em. Long live Rock & Roll.
@@carlsusa8395 no, you do your research. That is a blatant lie. The Teddy Boys were, on the whole, only interested in looking cool and dapper...they were actually peacocks. Yes, there was one big fight in London between Teddy Boys and youths from the Jamaican community but on the whole there was few such occasions. I knew some black Teddy Boys. The musical heroes of the Teddy Boys were Winifred Atwell (before R'n'R arrived) and when R'n'R arrived, of course the main figure was Elvis but after him Little Richard and Chuck Berry were the big names. Hardly racist then.
This is such a great historical clip! The Teddy boys are just teenage lads out for a 'Giggle and a laugh'! All credit to them! It is the vicar who has an antiquated attitude! It is he that is the creature of the darkness! Only a small minority of the original teddy boys would have been involved in any violence. These lads are very respectful and polite! Would you find that amongst the gangs that commit the drug dealings and stabbings amongst themselves in London today? I don't think so!
It's funny looking back now but in the 50's Teddy Boys struck fear on the street, my late much elder half brother was a young boy then, I wasn't born till the 60's but he told me what it was liked, if you saw Teddy Boy gangs coming down the street and you're not one and a bit square you best cross over or at least be careful walking past, any show of disrespect like even brushing into them and they would use it as an excuse to start on you, they might even start anyway if they didn't like you.
I loved that comment; "we only went down there so we diddnt have to go home for our tea" Bless em! How times change eh? The usual non-christian attitude from that vicar mind.
what rubbish..teddy boys only come out in the dark..i was an 80s Ted and i and many other were proud to walk around in drapes..and i met many teds from the 50s who did the same in there day..we had the same thing in common our love for rock'n'roll music and because of the way we dressed some people classed us as trouble makers..Teds are still around now you may not see them in your highstreet now but you go to a gig and you will will see them all..long long live the teds and rock'n'roll...
Many early drapes didn't have any velvet parts. It's the cut that makes it a drape (hangs straight down without getting narrower on the waist, a single backpiece, the length, a straight bottom etc)
no skin tight trousers, hair past the collar, sideburns down to the chin, tattoos, earrings, bright coloured drapes, thick soled brothel creepers either!!!! The original Teddy Boys looked cool and dapper. From the 70's onwards they looked like Showaddywaddy clones.
@@cooldaddy2877 The original "creepers" were crepe soled shoes issued to RAF riggers and mechanics to save on damage when walking along wing surfaces. I have a superb, early photo with two Teds wearing these.
In this day and age the Teddy Boys might be wearing day glow fluorescent jackets for Health and Safety reasons. .. No chance of skullduggery then is there Mr Vicar...
We had them all in our family history one point hahaha and a few others lol my old man said the same, teddy's lived for the fight. my grandad was one and was in early his 20's at that time. Little fella but the toughest on the block.
@van5695 Thats funny I have just read your comments & the word misconception comes to the fore,I swear I didn`t read your comment before I posted mine, anyway I agree with all you say, Probably through rose tinted specs, I loved growing up in West London as a Ted of the time, The music, clubs & the general life of the time was magic.
no this lot were just my age,,believe me they were clueless.i knew a few rockabillys in later years,good drinking lads ,from the scooter scene. these lads had class and style.the idiots i referd to earlier had neither. im a second generation skin/casual.still love the clobber and music,soul,reggae,punk.
Its interesting to note the total absence of any velvet on their suits (not really drapes after all). Its hard to see how they could have afford drapes at what were then and still are now,expensive suits. The vicar has the typical spiffing cappy accent whilst the Teds show sadly some signs of illiteracy.
ha ha ha, the vicar was brilliant... emns deeds in the dark, no teddy boys in the syummer. fantastic! though even nowadays, if you want a fight in your club, invite teddy boys and folk with different skin colors and watch what happens.
oh be quiet. I was a Teddy Boys in the fifties and I knew some black Teddy Boys. The racial angle is often overplayed.....usually by those who were not around at the time.....or those who believe the heavily moralistic conservative newsreels of the time.
Since this is a subculture and fashion statement unique to the U.K., this is one Yank's observation. To me, the Teddy Boys of the 1950's evolved to the Mods of the 1960's. And when the original Mod subculture ended, it reemerged in 1977 by means of The Jam !
I see where you are going with your comment, but I have to say,. no. If anyone "evolved" from the Teds, it was the Rockers. Mods worst enemy! Ha! They both were however, youth sub-cultures that wanted to go their own way. But The Teds were the first (I got here from a Ken Mackintosh video). It seems that post WW2 was the genesis of this new attitude amongst youth. I would guess that sudden disposable income and new media (frequent pictures being relatively recent) led teens to be less interested in the approval of the world. Youthful rebellion was nothing new, but I don't think quite this type of separation from society had occurred before this time. Very interesting period! I'm sure it occurred in the UK & USA but done differently. While both countries came out 'on top' of the war, The UK took more damage (bombing/rubble) so financially the USA may have been in better shape. Everything gets revived in 10-20 year cycles but it's never exactly the same. Often it's a cartoon of itself and ends up blending with other things. Yesterday's sworn enemies now sharing a pint and it's all good. People looking for a scrap today, seems it's mostly happening along political ideologies. Go to a protest and get the other guy! Wow.
As shawmutfinlay said, the Teddy Boys were the original rockers. They were the ones who embraced the American influence when Bill Haley came on the scene in '55, followed by Elvis, Buddy Holly, Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran. And it was the drape jackets, drainpipe trousers and Crepe-soled shoes (brothel creepers) that evolved into leather jackets, jeans and boots.
All wrong. The sub-culture of the Teds of the late 1950's and early 1960's were "Ton Up boys" and Rockers. Mods were a new thing and exactly that. Modern. They favoured the clean cut newer styles like Levi Staypress trousers and sports wear like bowling shoes, Addidas trainers Ben Sherman and Fred Perry shirts etc. The Mod revival started well before the Jam and was short lived as these morphed into yet another sub-culture known as Scooter Boys or Scooterists, by the early 80's.
Looking at your channel I would guess you was a youth in the late 70's, early 80's, so not old enough to have known the Teddy Boys of the 1950's which this video is about, so you must have met up with Teds from the late 70's early 80's, which were very different from the 50's. I've been into the Rockin scene since the late 70's, started off as a Ted and never fought in a pack, always fought the gentleman's way being a boxer from the age of 12 until 30, and squaddie for 22 years.
the hooligan Teddy Boy image was not true but the image shown by a conservative society. Most Teddy Boys of the fifties only wanted to look cool, get the girls and have something to do.
Wtf no! It was almost a statement you know. After the war and normal family lives. Teenagers weren't regarded like they are now, and to them it was a revolution. Anyway teddy boys are nice enough and to be totally honest- they are extremely hot :)
Listen don't be bothered what people think of you at least you've got the guts to be like that don't let anyone push you down, be your own man and be proud of it.
+Liam Williams either follow your own rules or don't some people will hate you whatever you do, most won't give a flying fuck what you do and some will like you whatever you do
Pick one. Either be a rebel who doesn't give a shit what people think, or care what people think, follow their rules and leave the rebellion to others. It's not often you can be both.
What a bunch of louts. I was a Skinhead when I was younger and we had a reputation for antisocial violent behavior, but we wouldn't have thumped the vicar in a million years.
Piss off they were animals. They ruined the football matches in the 60's and early 70's especially at Forest ground in Nottingham. I saw a pack of twenty Skinheads kicking the shit out of one poor Pakistani kid from the top of the bus on the way home one Saturday, and when an old chap I assumed was his grandad tried to intervene, they kicked the shit out him too. There was also a gang that used to go to Skegness dressed in white bib and brace overalls, German para boots and carried umbreallas. Some also wore bowler hats in imitation of Clockwork Orange and they all but terrorised the seafront when they went.
@@BradBrassman I get your point some of them were. We were no angels we caused trouble at football matches, fought a lot with bikers and picked on hippy types. Never bashed ethnic minorities though, just used to shout abuse at some of them, they're weren't many where I lived. But attacking the elderly and the clergy was a definite no no.
no one has had the class to produce decent ted clothing since the fifties. modern septegenerian teds wearing 70% viscose, poorly tailored drapes are an embarassment to a brilliant and classic style. get an apple cart lads. lol.
Have to disagree with the fake rock n Rollers as no such thing exists, you are either a Ted or your not in my view. If your youth time was the late 80's the Teds would have been a lot older then you i.e. Teds from the 1960's and early 70's as most of the rockin youth had moved onto Rockabilly, and by that time most of the street styles were intermingling.
Those teddy boys sure liked to have a giggle.
Frankie is the 1st guy, what a sweetie. Knew him from when I was a tiny kid. Often saw these guys carrying old ladies shopping home 😆
You still have contact with them
@@angelicagonzalez151 all dead now sorry to say
Fun to read the comments. Teddy Boys to me were cool in the 50's. In Manchester there were area fights. At dances there was always a fight, I thought it was normal.
Manchester market lads were almost all Ted's and I know there were some bad fights but I never saw that. So each era had it's rebels and we loved them all..
My Uncle is in this clip!! The one who doesn't want to go home for his tea!! Let me tell you he is one the kindest, loveliest man you could ever meet so there Mr Vicar!! :-)
Lisa Frosdick read that teddy boys ,.. kill people ,.. and carry sharp razors and shit ,.. just mean unhappy bullies,..
Gabriella Patterson Mostly myth dear, down to the papers at the time.
they used beat up the Beatles all the time,..
The Beatles were Teddy Boys.
yes i know ,..
0:56 thats my grandad
liam woods that's so cool
From teddy boys to mosh pits; Beatles to Nirvana; it's all sadly in the past until some group of teens decide to rebel against their mind-controlling tablets & games!
There is always a rebellious undercurrent. It only ends up in TV in retrospect
They were known for fighting, I couldn’t imagine fighting in a suit.
Vincent,I think you hit the nail on the head mate.Alot of younger Teds in the 50's were of course still at school & working class so couldn't afford a Drape.But they are still Teds.I for one was a Ted before I could afford a Drape.All I had was a bootlace Tie & a tub of Brylcreem.
Of course the Brylcreem. No respecting Ted would be seen using anything else in their hair at the time.
without teds, there would be no teenagers! fashion would not be the same today if it wasn't for the teds. i love them, assets to Britain they were
@HepCatmobile Absolutely, there is a great misconception about the whole Ted thing,[ I was there.] A lot of this video is spot on, because it is from the actual time. The later Teds are good, they have kept the scene going. The dress is a bit over the top But the Teds know it. Good on em. Long live Rock & Roll.
56 seconds my grandad love home still going 89 years old
An example of why I dig UA-cam.
Love 'em!
Good old days where everyone apologized, shook hands and was off for Sunday lunch, URGH!
Somalian Teafactory ! Teddy boys were the 1st racist organisation to terrorise the ethnic community! Research 💯
@@carlsusa8395 no, you do your research. That is a blatant lie. The Teddy Boys were, on the whole, only interested in looking cool and dapper...they were actually peacocks. Yes, there was one big fight in London between Teddy Boys and youths from the Jamaican community but on the whole there was few such occasions. I knew some black Teddy Boys. The musical heroes of the Teddy Boys were Winifred Atwell (before R'n'R arrived) and when R'n'R arrived, of course the main figure was Elvis but after him Little Richard and Chuck Berry were the big names. Hardly racist then.
I didn't know "avin a giggle" was used back then it's made a comeback 😂
This is such a great historical clip! The Teddy boys are just teenage lads out for a 'Giggle and a laugh'! All credit to them! It is the vicar who has an antiquated attitude! It is he that is the creature of the darkness! Only a small minority of the original teddy boys would have been involved in any violence. These lads are very respectful and polite! Would you find that amongst the gangs that commit the drug dealings and stabbings amongst themselves in London today? I don't think so!
It's funny looking back now but in the 50's Teddy Boys struck fear on the street, my late much elder half brother was a young boy then, I wasn't born till the 60's but he told me what it was liked, if you saw Teddy Boy gangs coming down the street and you're not one and a bit square you best cross over or at least be careful walking past, any show of disrespect like even brushing into them and they would use it as an excuse to start on you, they might even start anyway if they didn't like you.
I loved that comment; "we only went down there so we diddnt have to go home for our tea" Bless em! How times change eh?
The usual non-christian attitude from that vicar mind.
what rubbish..teddy boys only come out in the dark..i was an 80s Ted and i and many other were proud to walk around in drapes..and i met many teds from the 50s who did the same in there day..we had the same thing in common our love for rock'n'roll music and because of the way we dressed some people classed us as trouble makers..Teds are still around now you may not see them in your highstreet now but you go to a gig and you will will see them all..long long live the teds and rock'n'roll...
Many early drapes didn't have any velvet parts. It's the cut that makes it a drape (hangs straight down without getting narrower on the waist, a single backpiece, the length, a straight bottom etc)
no skin tight trousers, hair past the collar, sideburns down to the chin, tattoos, earrings, bright coloured drapes, thick soled brothel creepers either!!!! The original Teddy Boys looked cool and dapper. From the 70's onwards they looked like Showaddywaddy clones.
@@cooldaddy2877 The original "creepers" were crepe soled shoes issued to RAF riggers and mechanics to save on damage when walking along wing surfaces. I have a superb, early photo with two Teds wearing these.
@@BradBrassman thats true...but they were not like the 1970's variety.
In this day and age the Teddy Boys might be wearing day glow fluorescent jackets for Health and Safety reasons. .. No chance of skullduggery then is there Mr Vicar...
Ya Fuckin ted!!!! Lol
the English accent has stayed exactly the same
That’s a London accent
We had them all in our family history one point hahaha and a few others lol
my old man said the same, teddy's lived for the fight.
my grandad was one and was in early his 20's at that time.
Little fella but the toughest on the block.
Most Teddy Boys were NOT into fighting but into looking cool and getting the girls. I know, I was one of them in the fifties.
MY FATHER WAS A TEDDY BOY.
So was mine and all my uncles n aunty. 😊
My dad was one of them in that video Sam Giddings
pervy vicar
Kids! What's the matter with kids today?........Age old question, it seems.
Kids today have more violence and rebellious aka me!
@van5695 Thats funny I have just read your comments & the word misconception comes to the fore,I swear I didn`t read your comment before I posted mine, anyway I agree with all you say, Probably through rose tinted specs, I loved growing up in West London as a Ted of the time, The music, clubs & the general life of the time was magic.
teddy boys beat up my grandad when he was 12 haha
There smart and well polite and nice. I dont see them at rebels and crims at all…
Was this in London?
needs subtitles so my Yank ears can understand what they are saying.
+Trevor Harris Don't be rude to the american chap he knows what language it is he has trouble with the dialect that's all
That's fair enough. Even I was struggling, and I'm from the UK. Lol!!!
😅
no this lot were just my age,,believe me they were clueless.i knew a few rockabillys in later years,good drinking lads ,from the scooter scene. these lads had class and style.the idiots i referd to earlier had neither. im a second generation skin/casual.still love the clobber and music,soul,reggae,punk.
Its interesting to note the total absence of any velvet on their suits (not really drapes after all). Its hard to see how they could have afford drapes at what were then and still are now,expensive suits. The vicar has the typical spiffing cappy accent whilst the Teds show sadly some signs of illiteracy.
nicky vincze
TEDS RULE. THE REST ARE WANKERS
ha ha ha, the vicar was brilliant... emns deeds in the dark, no teddy boys in the syummer.
fantastic!
though even nowadays, if you want a fight in your club, invite teddy boys and folk with different skin colors and watch what happens.
oh be quiet. I was a Teddy Boys in the fifties and I knew some black Teddy Boys. The racial angle is often overplayed.....usually by those who were not around at the time.....or those who believe the heavily moralistic conservative newsreels of the time.
Since this is a subculture and fashion statement unique to the U.K., this is one Yank's observation. To me, the Teddy Boys of the 1950's evolved to the Mods of the 1960's. And when the original Mod subculture ended, it reemerged in 1977 by means of The Jam !
I see where you are going with your comment, but I have to say,. no. If anyone "evolved" from the Teds, it was the Rockers. Mods worst enemy! Ha!
They both were however, youth sub-cultures that wanted to go their own way. But The Teds were the first (I got here from a Ken Mackintosh video). It seems that post WW2 was the genesis of this new attitude amongst youth. I would guess that sudden disposable income and new media (frequent pictures being relatively recent) led teens to be less interested in the approval of the world. Youthful rebellion was nothing new, but I don't think quite this type of separation from society had occurred before this time. Very interesting period! I'm sure it occurred in the UK & USA but done differently. While both countries came out 'on top' of the war, The UK took more damage (bombing/rubble) so financially the USA may have been in better shape.
Everything gets revived in 10-20 year cycles but it's never exactly the same. Often it's a cartoon of itself and ends up blending with other things. Yesterday's sworn enemies now sharing a pint and it's all good. People looking for a scrap today, seems it's mostly happening along political ideologies. Go to a protest and get the other guy! Wow.
As shawmutfinlay said, the Teddy Boys were the original rockers. They were the ones who embraced the American influence when Bill Haley came on the scene in '55, followed by Elvis, Buddy Holly, Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran.
And it was the drape jackets, drainpipe trousers and Crepe-soled shoes (brothel creepers) that evolved into leather jackets, jeans and boots.
@@shawmutfinlay We have rebels in every generation
youve got it very wrong. No self respecting Teddy Boy would ever have become a Mod.
All wrong. The sub-culture of the Teds of the late 1950's and early 1960's were "Ton Up boys" and Rockers. Mods were a new thing and exactly that. Modern. They favoured the clean cut newer styles like Levi Staypress trousers and sports wear like bowling shoes, Addidas trainers Ben Sherman and Fred Perry shirts etc. The Mod revival started well before the Jam and was short lived as these morphed into yet another sub-culture known as Scooter Boys or Scooterists, by the early 80's.
your right,it was the late 80s,and they were just fake rock n rollers ,when i look back. no disrespect to the originals.
Looking at your channel I would guess you was a youth in the late 70's, early 80's, so not old enough to have known the Teddy Boys of the 1950's which this video is about, so you must have met up with Teds from the late 70's early 80's, which were very different from the 50's. I've been into the Rockin scene since the late 70's, started off as a Ted and never fought in a pack, always fought the gentleman's way being a boxer from the age of 12 until 30, and squaddie for 22 years.
the hooligan Teddy Boy image was not true but the image shown by a conservative society. Most Teddy Boys of the fifties only wanted to look cool, get the girls and have something to do.
I really want to be a teddy boy a reble who follows his own rules but if I do won't I be hated by most people? pleas answer
Wtf no! It was almost a statement you know. After the war and normal family lives. Teenagers weren't regarded like they are now, and to them it was a revolution. Anyway teddy boys are nice enough and to be totally honest- they are extremely hot :)
Listen don't be bothered what people think of you at least you've got the guts to be like that don't let anyone push you down, be your own man and be proud of it.
You both make excellent points.
+Liam Williams either follow your own rules or don't some people will hate you whatever you do, most won't give a flying fuck what you do and some will like you whatever you do
Pick one. Either be a rebel who doesn't give a shit what people think, or care what people think, follow their rules and leave the rebellion to others. It's not often you can be both.
Ted's rual
What a bunch of louts. I was a Skinhead when I was younger and we had a reputation for antisocial violent behavior, but we wouldn't have thumped the vicar in a million years.
Piss off they were animals. They ruined the football matches in the 60's and early 70's especially at Forest ground in Nottingham. I saw a pack of twenty Skinheads kicking the shit out of one poor Pakistani kid from the top of the bus on the way home one Saturday, and when an old chap I assumed was his grandad tried to intervene, they kicked the shit out him too. There was also a gang that used to go to Skegness dressed in white bib and brace overalls, German para boots and carried umbreallas. Some also wore bowler hats in imitation of Clockwork Orange and they all but terrorised the seafront when they went.
@@BradBrassman I get your point some of them were. We were no angels we caused trouble at football matches, fought a lot with bikers and picked on hippy types. Never bashed ethnic minorities though, just used to shout abuse at some of them, they're weren't many where I lived. But attacking the elderly and the clergy was a definite no no.
@@montygemma you used to shout abuse at minorities!? That's repulsive
@@amber3244its ok. he didnt twat a vicar though 😂
@@montygemma and you call them louts? Fuck off
Well if anything comes to mind when reading comments it would be fucking hypocrite
no one has had the class to produce decent ted clothing since the fifties. modern septegenerian teds wearing 70% viscose, poorly tailored drapes are an embarassment to a brilliant and classic style. get an apple cart lads. lol.
100% agree. The later Teddy Boy style was awful.
nah mods rule
🤣🤣🤣🤣 what are you smoking
Have to disagree with the fake rock n Rollers as no such thing exists, you are either a Ted or your not in my view. If your youth time was the late 80's the Teds would have been a lot older then you i.e. Teds from the 1960's and early 70's as most of the rockin youth had moved onto Rockabilly, and by that time most of the street styles were intermingling.