Porsche Coil Packs and Plugs Part 2
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Follow my video at your own risk...I am not a mechanic and may do things the wrong way.
Beru Coil Packs:Part# 997 602 104 02 Ignition Coil Cross Ref: ZS178
Spark Plugs NKG From Autozone
I had a CEL come on and two Codes associated with it. One was 0327 = Knock Sensor, and 0301 Misfire Cylinder. 1. This video shows how I changed the plugs and coil packs.
Hi Rick, I just replaced the plugs and coils on the passenger side and went exactly through the same process as you did. Cilinder 4 is really a pain in the butt. Tomorrow I will do the other side and I am very glad you said that this side is less difficult. I combine this job with changing the mufflers, so they had to come off anyway.
Thanks for your video!
Rob
The Netherlands
3.6 C4 coupe
It is great to hear that the videos are helpful! Congratulations on getting the passenger side done and best of luck with the drivers side. That is a job I do not want to do again. :) Take care and thank you again.
Wow Rick. That was a gutsy project. My wrench turning days are over but wouldn't have tried plugs on a Porsche ever. Especially, when removing exhaust parts is required. That would need a torch in New England. So glad that your wife saved the day 😂
Hi Deb! She did indeed. Thankfully she does that all the time or I might be in jail. LOL :) It was definitely a big pain, but worth it in the end...thankfully. Hope your weekend was awesome Deb...Thank you for watching.
Good job Rick just change mine number four was difficult but can be done without removing muffler, still great to achieve something yourself.
I'm glad to see you did everything correctly. I know plenty of people that would only fix the one coil pack. I learned a long time ago when the manufacturers went to this type of coil system that you don't replace just one you replace all of them. I'm glad to see that you put dielectric grease inside the boot. I'm not sure if you put anti seize on your spark plugs. I'm also happy to see that you took up the challenge of doing this instead of paying someone.
Thanks David. It was a challenging job and one I hope I do not have to repeat anytime soon. :) Thank you for watching!
You can do this without removing the wheels. I rolled my car into ramps to get it done. You don’t need to remove the muffler. Duct taping the spark plug socket to the extension is good idea so you don’t lose it down the hole. A flex swivel head 1/4 inch ratchet helps.
From a post I did on pelican parts
This job took me about 4 1/2 hours. No need to remove the muffler! This job was easier than I expected. I recommend backing the car up on ramps and laying under the back of the car. This gave me good access to the plugs. I recommend starting on the drivers side with the rear most plug and coil. This gives you experience as you move forward and also schools you on the passenger side rear plug because by the time you get there you will know the flow. For others trying this - you can reach the rear plug on the drivers side both with your left hand from the front and your right hand coming up behind and through the exhaust. I used a 3 inch extension and a flex joint spark plug socket. The dream tool would be a 4 inch extension plus the flex joint socket. This would help your ratchet handle clear the other electrical sensors adjacent to the plug bays. DUCT TAPE YOUR SPARK PLUG SOCKET TO YOUR EXTENSION! I had never tried this, but it saved me tons of pain trying to remove the spark plug socket from the spark plug after installation. I saw this on another UA-cam video and it is a lifesaver. When it came to the passenger side rear spark plug, the biggest problem was not removing the plug. Since I learned so much by doing the driver side, it was actually pretty easy to remove it. I had access with my right hand from the front with a little help from my left hand in the back. The hardest part was walking the rubber boot back on the coil plug! It took 30 minutes trying to bring it back down. Do yourself a favor and grab a small needle nose pliers to pull it back down if you have trouble. I was able to get a torque wrench to the passenger side rear plug, but there was too much slop in the torque wrench to get it to click given the limited amount of vertical up and down space with the torque wrench coming off to the right. My workaround is that I helped the torque wrench with my right hand and with my left hand I popped off the head of rachet, turned the ratchet head with my fingers while holding the handle as far up in the engine as possible. This would reset the ratchet teeth enough to have resistance at the top of the stroke instead of slop as I pulled down. If you dont know what I’m talking about, you might know once you get into it. This method also works as you move to the middle spark plugs.
Thanks Paul. I appreciate your insight on this. Definitely not a job I would want to do again. :).
I changed all 6 spark plugs on my 997 in less than 2 hours and without removing the exhaust mufflers, even on the passenger side. For the spark plugs my trick is to use a 3,5" long 3/8" spark plug socket with a 3/8 flex joint and 3" 3/8 extension. Tape the socket and flex joint so that they do come apart inside the engine.
For sure the screws and connector to coil 4 is tricky to access, but it's doable.
Really good job of humbly explaining the in out and difficulties. I have a 1999 911 C2 Coupe. Ebay auction for $7800. This is my 11th 911. I love working on these cars. Thanks
Awesome David. Have fun with the new one. They really are worth the "trouble" since they are so nice to drive.
Access#4 by using your 3/8 drive to extension to univeral joint to allen fitting
Good video...hope that helps anyone with this, aloha!🤙
Daniel, thank you! I appreciate the advice on the adaptors for next time...which I hope I don't have to do again. :) Cheers and thanks again.
Great job Rick. You convinced me to outsource it to my Porsche mechanic.
Ha ha. :) I honestly can not blame you there. It is not fun!
Job well done Rick!!! Looks like you need to relax and have an ice cold beer or two!
That's for sure! It was a tough one!
I did the same job on my former 2001 996 C2 cab. I removed the mufflers since I was doing the Gundo Hack at the same time. The trickiest part of the spark plug change was getting the coil packs off since they had a lot of oil and grime in the allen headed bolts. Also I made my own tool to remove the spark plug tubes.
Nice! It was definitely a job that requires a ton of patience. Hope to not have to do it again. 😃
Porsches are very interesting. They work very well but if you need to fix something, it can be pricey
Amen! 😃👍🏻. They make such a beautiful noise!
Alright Rick , Enjoyed the video , looks like your next project could be rear engine mounts ,have a quick look at 4.22, you can see the rubber is quite a way through. Good luck and keep up the good work
Thank you Peter! I appreciate the heads up on the mounts, but I did just change them out last year. The old ones were trashed for sure. I will take a look at them again just to make sure. Thank you again and have a great weekend!
Rick Hutton my bad ,you too 🍺
No worries, thank you for the heads up anyway. I do appreciate it.
Great video thank you
Thank you!
you did really good!
Thank you!
Ratcheting wrench would have made it easier to put bolts in
Chris, I have one but it doesn't fit in there. I even have a round hand ratchet that wouldn't fit for a few of the bolts.
Chris, I was driving today and realized you meant a wrench that rackets. :) Sorry about that....I was thinking socket wrench. You are right, that would have worked great! Cheers
You need those wrenches for any VAG car lol. The beetle TDI has required them many times.
Nice video Rick. If you really think about it, this job at a shop would have taken about 2-3 hours? I think the amount of time you spent was time well spent. Also my experience with coil packs have always been internal and not any physical damage to the actual coil pack. Heat and the occasional water damage is what kills these things. Again thanks for the video. What was the overall cost savings versus taking it to the shop and doing it at home?
Thank you Don! And good to hear from you. I am not honestly sure what the shop would have charged. My mechanic up in Phoenix is $90/hour, which is very fair compared to most Porsche shops. Parts were around $275 or so. I am guessing it would have been the 2 or 3 hours in labor like you mentioned.
So you're looking at about $500.00 for the job. I think if you have the time and tools (very important) then this was good time and money saved. I really feel that if this is a DIY job then why not. Again thanks for the video, hopefully we'll see more maintenance/repair videos as needed. Have a good one.
Thanks again Don! Appreciate the support. I have some suspension stuff that I need to get to at some point and do the brakes as well....Time and money. :)
Great Video. How did you jack up the car? The front is where I am wondering. The car has two jack points but how to raise the car so as to place the jacks under those points. Don't see any rubber pads attached to a cross-member.
I actually jacked up the back which allowed me to get a jack stand on one side and then did the same on the other side. Another way I do it sometimes is to jack up one side and I slide 4 x 6's under one side and then the other until I have the car on 3 per side. Once I get one Jack stand under I have the other side high enough to where I only have to use a 'non jack' point to lift the car a couple inches. I plan on buying a max-jack lift here soon to make life much easier.
Thanks.
Hey Rick, I'm going to be doing the same to my 00' 996 with the help of my brother, who works on cars quite a bit. I think we'll certainly remove the mufflers to free up as much room as possible. Your video is helpful! Question - did you look into replacing the spark plug tubs? I don't know how easy or hard that is, or inspecting them? It seems inspection requires removal, so may as well replace at that time anyway? Thanks! ps. your other videos 911 videos have been helpful too!
Hi Rick, sorry for the delay in my response for some reason youtube put you in my "spam box" Thank you for your kind words.
The driver's side isn't all that tricky even with the muffler on, but I would take the left one off for sure. And, pick up some ratcheting wrenches... It will make life much easier. I did not do anything with the spark plug tubes so unfortunately I can't help you there. As you probably saw in the video this is a terrible job to do, but just take your time and knowing it will be a pain going in will be helpful. :) Shoot me an email if you come up with any other questions Rick, happy to help.
How many miles on your car?
I am at 121,000 now
Hi rick, how’s sumitomo perform since you have them?
Hi Francois, I have no complaints at all thus far for street use. I have not had the car on the track so I can't comment about how they would do there, but day to day they are great. No noise, similar mpg, no signs of wear as of yet.
Hi Rick, I have a 996 Turbo. I recently changed the 3 front rads and the two air con rads as I had a coolant leak from the rads. After this was done a leak emerged from the pipe to the oil cooler so now have the engine out. I’m replacing the oil cooler, the water pump, the turbo actuators whilst the engine is out but I also decided to fit new coil pack and spark plugs and service the engine though it’s not due a service. Can I ask if the engine ran any better after replacing you replaced the coil pack and spark plugs ?
Wow Matthew, you are into a big job...that is awesome. I was just mentioning to my wife yesterday that when the time comes to drop the motor in mine I would like to try to do it at home. Seems like such a daunting task. Cheers! I honestly can't say that I notice the car running any different as just before I got the error code the car was running great with no issues. I think the coil just gave up. Best of luck with everything and thank you for watching.
Rick Hutton thanks for replying and great video.... hopefully I will be trouble free for a while when I get the car back next week
Best of luck Matthew. I love my little 996, but you just never know what will need to be fixed next. :) Let me know how it goes.
Rick Hutton thanks mate 👍
Coil packs now days dont last for shit. I got 30k out of my ford ones on the car that got traded for the crosstrek. Didn't catch if you said the cost per pack on the video but the ford ones are like $65 each and the dealer said coil packs are one of the most common misfire warranty failures.
Wow! That is a bummer. They were $38 a piece, so not bad really and I am pretty sure they were the originals...just shy of 118,000 miles on them.
Hello Rick! Update on the Porsche?
HI Even, I need to do an update for sure. I was just talking about that the other day. Thanks so much for watching! I will get one out soon.
Dirty Jobs -- lol ;-)
That is for sure! :)