Well i hope mfs that make music all the time dont get killed by aniqqa who dont rao alot 🤣 for anigga that dont rap much mfs shiw is playing they cards careful lmfao
I like when Low is able to speak freely because he doesn’t have all the restrictions on Apple Music and with Ebro! I would love to see more Low collabs guys!
Cole wants to be with the Talib Kweli’s and Q-tips just rap and be cool we always knew that , but could you imagine Krs-One saying sorry after the Bridge is Over or 50 or Pusha T saying sorry Drake I apologize bro you right😂 this really shows the times that were in now , these men don’t want conflict they want to hang out together.
Low is shooting J. Cole too much bail J. Cole is part of that dialectic, he’s coauthor of the narrative that he is among the big 3, that’s not all the fans, and that’s not all fan bullying. He set the expectation and started the conversation to be a rap Rushmore candidate. He wanted that for himself, and in turn the fans enjoyed that their favorite was finally Beating his chest, showing his nuts, and talking his shit. So, When it was time to show and prove (and he did not deliver), it’s not fair to put all of that on fan expectation, and call it bullying. Cole’s own constituency was following a lead and a path that Cole knowingly trailblazers for himself.
Great show. Lively discourse by the panel. It's too bad @Cinsere wasnt able to make this episode. However, the guest spots by Low from Apple Music, Baylorism and Coop more than made up for Cin's abscense. Cole doing what he did is pretty much unprecedented in hip hop, especially for an artist of his stature. I see why this is such a hot topic so many are opinionated about.
He didn’t run he just didn’t respond so he took the L. I respect that more cause he did engage first with duppy freestyle which to me lyrically was a better track but than story of adidon. Just pusha won with info and shock value. Drake didn’t apologize though 😂 j cole apology on his own stage in front of world trumps drake losing to pusha
Do you think Interscope had anything to do with this? TPAB is just as much their album as it is Kendrick’s and Cole just joined the team only to denigrate it on their first partnership(Cole & Interscope)
Nas is a terrible reference point for not having to respond right away. We have to understand that Takeover dropped on the Blueprint album on 09.11.2001. It would’ve been completely tone deaf and in poor taste of Nas to respond and put a bunch of energy into a meaningless rap beef while the city that both of them are from is under attack. He had to wait for the dust to settle, literally. 🤷🏾♂️
@@cecilburroughs9460yeah man. there’s no way that Nas could’ve been on some “fuck Jay-Z, dick sucking lips” bullshit while ashes were still floating and some people were still alive suffering under rubble
I'm sorry but HiP Hop is a competitive sport, so for you to bow out like that without even getting hit back just proven that J Cole ain't build for this, and he just take his self out of one of the goat conversation.
1:28:52 Buddy really has an over inflated sense of this situation. I've heard his former co-host discuss the situation. Sounded sensible and he wished him the best. This guy comes across as extremely feminine. A lot of Monique energy he's working with. Didn't he threaten to write a book about their relationship? 😂 Now he's analogizing himself as Ali and the War . Come on ! He seems like a handful to collaborate with. Real Sassive Aggressive fellow.
Lame. Cole was my favorite of three and i lost all interest, including any kind of collab with kendrick. That would further the sonning kendrick just did to him
correction jay did apologies for super ugly BECAUSE OF his Moms not to his Moms....... Cole let down hip hop for a fact, and i was rooting for him being from Nc....he basically was scared to get embarrassed by kendrick so he embarrassed his self my apologising. SMH.... salute to the channel i stayed tuned in
Mr Morale is not a terrible trash album…..Yall just wasn’t ready for the trauma and topics that he touched on, on that album…..years down the line y’all will understand that album….is it the worse album out of discography, yes but that’s cuz his other albums were just that good….yall forget Kendrick took 2 to 3 years off between albums regularly, he only took 5 years off 1 time and that was because of the pandemic in 2020, he was supposed to drop that year….so that woulda been on par with the 3 year gap, since the damn album…..im still a cole fan but I told cats from jump that cole not built like that, just cuz u got bars, doesn’t mean ur a battle rapper
Everyone’s mad at Cole forgetting that Pac and Nas had a very similar situation. Pac took shots at Nas, Nas wanted to squash the beef because he loved Pac and Pac mutually respected him and said he would take off all the diss tracks before he died
It was mutual between pac and Nas….that was after they both had dissed each other a few times, they had a stand off in the park, nugga’s coulda died that night, two crews weren’t backing down, but they decided to talk it out, so this cole shit not the same….u must be young asf
Nas didn't squash nothing. Nas called the goons first, then stepped to Pac in Bryant Park to check the temperature, and cooler heads prevailed. Which was a blessing.
I think Cole is really apologizing for how he used the diss as a rollout he chastised Kendrick for only being relevant for controversy it’s looks hypocritical and lame to sell a record off the back of a diss instead off the bars that cole intended for might delete later.
We all go on about we respect real mfs and don't respect the fake but as soon as a mf keeps it real and says my heart wasn't in this sht and im walking it back. Yall would rather him be fake?
I will take quality over quantity just because you drop every year or every two years but your albums are not that good the majority but the other person drops every 2 to 3 years but it albums are amazing. Id rather u take ur time and give me quality
Jay did apologize to Nas not his mom. He didnt diss his mom he dissed the bm. It was jay's mom that made him apologize but he did tho. So jarv got that wrong but i agree this cole shit is still diff. He could've backed off without saying it,just not respond moving forward. But he'll be fine moving forward,he just gotta take these jokes for now. This is definitely a L at this moment
He didn’t apologize to Nas. He apologized to his mom, Carmen, and families impacted. But he also said he meant what he said to Nas ua-cam.com/video/2iEMkpIu5Js/v-deo.htmlsi=8DzJTL-LOV6V0Ukm
I think that this whole situation with J Cole might not even have anything to do with him at all or about being true to himself...maybe it could be because if he, being a Jay Z's cosign were to blow up right now, would necessarily mean bringing Jay Z into the conversation and Hov is not trying to avoid media attention at all cost amidst the ongoing Diddy saga - even if it means losing on the investment made into rolling out Coles much anticipated project also considering the consistant effort he's maintained to this point in his career.....and then just make a uturn when you are in pole position....Big hommie was nah...take a break with all that heat for now....just sayin'
Ain’t nothing change about Cole. He is still an elite rapper. He is still in current top three. He is still current Mount Rushmore . That being said, this is a major misstep. But the mishaps is the realization that individually Cole doesn’t deliver. the current album like most other Cole albums was mid to ok. The best songs on the album-like most Cole records- don’t truly cook unless there is a feature to push him to greatness. This is J. Cole, being J. Cole. Shame on anyone who truly expected him to change his stripes when the résumé already pointed in this direction. He needs someone to rhyme with. I still want to hear his next album, I still want to hear Drake and J. Cole album, and I still want to hear a Cole and Kendric albums. I’m not throwing the boy away, not just yet. Cole is still needed, He still has a talent, and yes he still fucked up.
How can someone be in the current top three, Mount Rushmore, etc., that when it comes time to prove their ability they fold? Cole has been talking his ego rap shit for the past three years saying he is the best, I can go at anyone one on one, I want all the smoke, and so and so forth. Even though an apology is mature... he asked for this. This is weak and pathetic. The apology would make sense if it had any respectable merit, but he basically apologized because the diss he sent didn't get the recognition he thought it deserved. He made a Freudian slip during his apology.
Everything you said is true, but it doesn’t disturb j Cole’s accomplishments. I don’t care for his decision and his behavior, but it’s his skill set, and his feature run, as well as the respect from his peers is what has placed him among the top MC of his generation. That’s not going to be washed away by his poor decisions this weekend.
He doesnt even hold the top skill set of this era.. mainstream wise maybe.. to me he the best out of the top 3. But i dont think he can smoke joyner lucas, king los, or king iso on a track. Tory lanez would probably give the biz to the big 3 lmao as far as their peers of that wave they are from.
Drake didn’t get common outa there, wtf did u hear, the consensus said common got his ass outa here, y’all trippin and he lost to Pusha, he only beat meek mill
Kendrick is No Koby Hell No!! He didn’t Respond to Anybody after Control!! Why Didn’t he Have Bars For Joell Ortiz?? Cause Ortiz would Body bag that squierdo!!!!!
EVEN KOBE🐐 SAID KENDRICK🐐 IS HIMSELF IN A INTERVIEW TOGETHER BEFORE HE DIED R.I.P THE MAMBA TEAM K DOT CUZ AND HE KNOWS. SO U WRONG AND BUDDY 😂🤣😭💀🤷🏾♂️
If Jay Cole doesn’t want to get into some corny rap beef then salute to him. He is still an elite MC. Still current big 3. If he is truly standing up for his personal values over what some fans want to see, then I can respect it. Maybe it’s time for hip hop to evolve and become somewhat civil.
Apology is not just the word. He said more than I'm sorry. He said he was off path, should not have done it, couldn't sleep, my opponent is the illest to EVER do it, I pray God will realign me. All of that is an apology. Doesn't it feel like an apology?
People act like kdot take such long breaks without giving him credit for untitled unmastered and the black panther soundtrack which was fucking huge.
Man Kendrick being gone for so long is even worse thats the point of him being the boogie man😂! He pop up like Jason
Well i hope mfs that make music all the time dont get killed by aniqqa who dont rao alot 🤣 for anigga that dont rap much mfs shiw is playing they cards careful lmfao
I like when Low is able to speak freely because he doesn’t have all the restrictions on Apple Music and with Ebro! I would love to see more Low collabs guys!
Agreed.
Lia he’s been on before. Go in the back catalogue
@@TheRapRoundtable I know. Just saying I would like to see more collabs from him. I think he fits so well and I like his takes!
Cole was on his own stage, at his own festival, and completely fumbled his Summer Jam screen moment. 🤦🏽♂️
J Cole let Nas down again 🤦♂️
If he learned anything from nas it’s you never back down from rap diss, little or big! It’s part of the culture! He let the culture down!
@@aldrickgill4444 He didn't learn nada
You know who has let Nas down. Anyone calling Ken, Drake and Cole 'the big 3'.
"Cole need to apologize for the apology" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you guys for putting coop on his voice is needed right now. Coop you need you show soon fam. Love the show fellas keep doing your thing.
True. He got a UA-cam channel?
www.youtube.com/@HIPHOPTLKS
Thursday at 8pm
Facts! 💯
@@AllTheThings_Coopthank you
Hanging with Drake got Cole outa character frfr
Deenie and Mase trying to get into the OVO war room. This level of glazin is just nasty work
So if people like Kendrick and go with Kendrick it’s okay but soon as people choose Drake it’s glazin 😂
@@natewilson8 did you see how they were talking. It’s personal for them.
@@natewilson8they do that bs all the time when it come to Drake, it’s annoying. Take yall W for now and go somewhere lmao
One of Drake's dogs jumped the fence and choked on his own chain. 😂😂😂
Cole wants to be with the Talib Kweli’s and Q-tips just rap and be cool we always knew that , but could you imagine Krs-One saying sorry after the Bridge is Over or 50 or Pusha T saying sorry Drake I apologize bro you right😂 this really shows the times that were in now , these men don’t want conflict they want to hang out together.
Low is shooting J. Cole too much bail J. Cole is part of that dialectic, he’s coauthor of the narrative that he is among the big 3, that’s not all the fans, and that’s not all fan bullying. He set the expectation and started the conversation to be a rap Rushmore candidate. He wanted that for himself, and in turn the fans enjoyed that their favorite was finally Beating his chest, showing his nuts, and talking his shit. So, When it was time to show and prove (and he did not deliver), it’s not fair to put all of that on fan expectation, and call it bullying. Cole’s own constituency was following a lead and a path that Cole knowingly trailblazers for himself.
🎯🎯🎯🎯
Why yall not giving Drake that same energy for not responding? So much hate for Cole.
Drake is a lover and fighter Kenny is a fighter and Cole is a just a lover 🤷♀️
The rawest nd realest explanation 👏👏👏👏🔥🔥
J Cole is a good rapper. Period. He is not a gladiator!
Great show. Lively discourse by the panel. It's too bad @Cinsere wasnt able to make this episode. However, the guest spots by Low from Apple Music, Baylorism and Coop more than made up for Cin's abscense. Cole doing what he did is pretty much unprecedented in hip hop, especially for an artist of his stature. I see why this is such a hot topic so many are opinionated about.
Mase and Deenie really hurt!! They both jumping my west coast homie!! These dudes really hurt.
Well...K-Dot said "it's time for him to prove that he's a problem." Cole crumbled.
Cole didn’t let Hip Hop down. People let themselves down with their personal expectations not being met.
Aubrey ran from push!
He didn’t run he just didn’t respond so he took the L. I respect that more cause he did engage first with duppy freestyle which to me lyrically was a better track but than story of adidon. Just pusha won with info and shock value. Drake didn’t apologize though 😂 j cole apology on his own stage in front of world trumps drake losing to pusha
@@natewilson8be ran cuz his boss came and babied him like a bitch
I wanna see big Sean take a shot at j Cole just for the fuck of it and see if he responds
sorry for 2024 is wild fam.
Do you think Interscope had anything to do with this? TPAB is just as much their album as it is Kendrick’s and Cole just joined the team only to denigrate it on their first partnership(Cole & Interscope)
BE HUMBLE, SIT DOWN!!!
I think what J Cole missed here is that he was not being authentic throughout. All the #1 talk was facade
Nas is a terrible reference point for not having to respond right away. We have to understand that Takeover dropped on the Blueprint album on 09.11.2001. It would’ve been completely tone deaf and in poor taste of Nas to respond and put a bunch of energy into a meaningless rap beef while the city that both of them are from is under attack. He had to wait for the dust to settle, literally. 🤷🏾♂️
Woowwwwww. This doesn’t get talked about enough.
@@cecilburroughs9460yeah man. there’s no way that Nas could’ve been on some “fuck Jay-Z, dick sucking lips” bullshit while ashes were still floating and some people were still alive suffering under rubble
Also his Mom was dying from cancer, so as far as responding to Jay-Z was the last thing on his mind.
Exactly and he still responded 3 months later in December, not the 6 that I constantly hear
People forget about the Stillmatic freestyle that made Jay record Take Over. Nas was not backing down.
I'm sorry but HiP Hop is a competitive sport, so for you to bow out like that without even getting hit back just proven that J Cole ain't build for this, and he just take his self out of one of the goat conversation.
1:28:52 Buddy really has an over inflated sense of this situation. I've heard his former co-host discuss the situation. Sounded sensible and he wished him the best. This guy comes across as extremely feminine. A lot of Monique energy he's working with. Didn't he threaten to write a book about their relationship? 😂 Now he's analogizing himself as Ali and the War . Come on ! He seems like a handful to collaborate with. Real Sassive Aggressive fellow.
He cant come back outside. It wouldve been better he fought and lost we wouldve respected that but he cant go at nobody
When J Cole and Kendrick playing chess with the public. Expect a record with those two on the Fall out 💯
Lame. Cole was my favorite of three and i lost all interest, including any kind of collab with kendrick. That would further the sonning kendrick just did to him
Cole was mainly Only Newer Rapper I liked Now This!!! Give Me The Golden Era!!! Old Head in tha House!!!!!!
Coop is a drake glazer.. we all know😂
correction jay did apologies for super ugly BECAUSE OF his Moms not to his Moms....... Cole let down hip hop for a fact, and i was rooting for him being from Nc....he basically was scared to get embarrassed by kendrick so he embarrassed his self my apologising. SMH.... salute to the channel i stayed tuned in
What's to say someone else besides Kendrick doesn't see Cole as FOOD now and drop a diss? Looks like open season to me!
Nobody is gonna care about a Cole verse aside from him stans. That’s a bad place to be considering where he was going.
No, J. Cole been calling ppl out for the last couple of years!
J.cole shouldn't have took on Drake's battle with Kendrick, just to apologize for it,
Mr Morale is not a terrible trash album…..Yall just wasn’t ready for the trauma and topics that he touched on, on that album…..years down the line y’all will understand that album….is it the worse album out of discography, yes but that’s cuz his other albums were just that good….yall forget Kendrick took 2 to 3 years off between albums regularly, he only took 5 years off 1 time and that was because of the pandemic in 2020, he was supposed to drop that year….so that woulda been on par with the 3 year gap, since the damn album…..im still a cole fan but I told cats from jump that cole not built like that, just cuz u got bars, doesn’t mean ur a battle rapper
He may have a haymaker in the cuff, but the believability of that died when decided he wanted “play Mr. Morale”
Drake can't compete with Kendrick.
Cole needs to apologize for that song “Fever” on his project
Lololol it’s horrible 😂
Yea beside 7 min drill its the worst song on the album
Complete garbage. You can tell he's been hanging around Drake lol.
Everyone’s mad at Cole forgetting that Pac and Nas had a very similar situation. Pac took shots at Nas, Nas wanted to squash the beef because he loved Pac and Pac mutually respected him and said he would take off all the diss tracks before he died
That is not the same at all
It was mutual between pac and Nas….that was after they both had dissed each other a few times, they had a stand off in the park, nugga’s coulda died that night, two crews weren’t backing down, but they decided to talk it out, so this cole shit not the same….u must be young asf
Nas didn't squash nothing. Nas called the goons first, then stepped to Pac in Bryant Park to check the temperature, and cooler heads prevailed. Which was a blessing.
Baylor is hilarious
I think Cole is really apologizing for how he used the diss as a rollout he chastised Kendrick for only being relevant for controversy it’s looks hypocritical and lame to sell a record off the back of a diss instead off the bars that cole intended for might delete later.
Cole made light skin corny again
We all go on about we respect real mfs and don't respect the fake but as soon as a mf keeps it real and says my heart wasn't in this sht and im walking it back. Yall would rather him be fake?
So don’t get mad at the “real MFer” for being fake and wasting our time? Got it.
No friends in the industry is about kanye.. not kendrick lol
BAYLORISM WITH THE FACTS💯 HE KNOWS BALL K DOT 🐐📚
J Cole had no issues going after Diggy and Lil Pump stop making excuses for dude.
I will take quality over quantity just because you drop every year or every two years but your albums are not that good the majority but the other person drops every 2 to 3 years but it albums are amazing. Id rather u take ur time and give me quality
Jay did apologize to Nas not his mom. He didnt diss his mom he dissed the bm. It was jay's mom that made him apologize but he did tho. So jarv got that wrong but i agree this cole shit is still diff. He could've backed off without saying it,just not respond moving forward. But he'll be fine moving forward,he just gotta take these jokes for now. This is definitely a L at this moment
He didn’t apologize to Nas. He apologized to his mom, Carmen, and families impacted. But he also said he meant what he said to Nas
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I think that this whole situation with J Cole might not even have anything to do with him at all or about being true to himself...maybe it could be because if he, being a Jay Z's cosign were to blow up right now, would necessarily mean bringing Jay Z into the conversation and Hov is not trying to avoid media attention at all cost amidst the ongoing Diddy saga - even if it means losing on the investment made into rolling out Coles much anticipated project also considering the consistant effort he's maintained to this point in his career.....and then just make a uturn when you are in pole position....Big hommie was nah...take a break with all that heat for now....just sayin'
This is a super reach idk how you could come to this conclusion lol
You know who has let Nas down. Anyone calling Ken, Drake and Cole 'the big 3'.
Ain’t nothing change about Cole. He is still an elite rapper. He is still in current top three. He is still current Mount Rushmore . That being said, this is a major misstep. But the mishaps is the realization that individually Cole doesn’t deliver. the current album like most other Cole albums was mid to ok. The best songs on the album-like most Cole records- don’t truly cook unless there is a feature to push him to greatness. This is J. Cole, being J. Cole. Shame on anyone who truly expected him to change his stripes when the résumé already pointed in this direction. He needs someone to rhyme with. I still want to hear his next album, I still want to hear Drake and J. Cole album, and I still want to hear a Cole and Kendric albums. I’m not throwing the boy away, not just yet. Cole is still needed, He still has a talent, and yes he still fucked up.
How can someone be in the current top three, Mount Rushmore, etc., that when it comes time to prove their ability they fold? Cole has been talking his ego rap shit for the past three years saying he is the best, I can go at anyone one on one, I want all the smoke, and so and so forth. Even though an apology is mature... he asked for this. This is weak and pathetic. The apology would make sense if it had any respectable merit, but he basically apologized because the diss he sent didn't get the recognition he thought it deserved. He made a Freudian slip during his apology.
Everything you said is true, but it doesn’t disturb j Cole’s accomplishments. I don’t care for his decision and his behavior, but it’s his skill set, and his feature run, as well as the respect from his peers is what has placed him among the top MC of his generation. That’s not going to be washed away by his poor decisions this weekend.
He doesnt even hold the top skill set of this era.. mainstream wise maybe.. to me he the best out of the top 3. But i dont think he can smoke joyner lucas, king los, or king iso on a track. Tory lanez would probably give the biz to the big 3 lmao as far as their peers of that wave they are from.
He ain't top 3 no more. Stop it. He has zero classics.
You wrote this dissertation and you're still wrong.
What if this is just how he feels towards the goat kdot. And would take on anyone else
Ain’t No Em??? That dude only Gets in Ring w Brittney and Lames😂😂😂😂😂
No top 5 MC called Him out 😂
Eminem and Kendrick come up from Dr Dre....it's complicated to start afire
@@brunojosuequifanda3733 Please But its Ok to respond to women and Lames stop the Cap,,, At least he could have Dissed Game by Name if he was so good
@@JoseMedina-oc2nd Jay z responde to game? Exactly
Drake didn’t get common outa there, wtf did u hear, the consensus said common got his ass outa here, y’all trippin and he lost to Pusha, he only beat meek mill
Kendrick is looking like the Big Bad Wolf. Soon as we get 1 challenger who can take him out he turns into “Mr.Morale” and fold. Tsk Tsk Tsk SMFH 🤦🏾♂️
Kendrick is No Koby Hell No!! He didn’t Respond to Anybody after Control!! Why Didn’t he Have Bars For Joell Ortiz?? Cause Ortiz would Body bag that squierdo!!!!!
KENDRICK LAMAR IS A MIX OF 2PAC ANDRE3000 THE BEST HIP HOP RAP ARTIST MC RAPPER OF HIS GENERATION. HIM🐐💯📚🗣
EVEN KOBE🐐 SAID KENDRICK🐐 IS HIMSELF IN A INTERVIEW TOGETHER BEFORE HE DIED R.I.P THE MAMBA TEAM K DOT CUZ AND HE KNOWS. SO U WRONG AND BUDDY 😂🤣😭💀🤷🏾♂️
@@merrekeste3385 Kobe only knew early Kendrick “Had A Spark When He Started But Now He Plain Garbage “🤣🤣🤣🤣Mr Mid was Wack!!!!!!!
@@JoseMedina-oc2nd U a Casual basic listener Mr mid😂🤣😭better than half drakes all mid shit he done put out these last 10 years tho🥊
Ortiz answer was mid. Plus he a nobody compared to Kdot
He finna be 40 that finna be static with anyone anymore .
If Jay Cole doesn’t want to get into some corny rap beef then salute to him. He is still an elite MC. Still current big 3. If he is truly standing up for his personal values over what some fans want to see, then I can respect it. Maybe it’s time for hip hop to evolve and become somewhat civil.
How yall feel about this now?
How does pop stars (which drake is) get so much respect with ghostwriters you drake lovers are laughable
How can Kendrick be the Rap Boogie man when Papoose made a disrespectful response to Control towards Kendrick and he bowed out?
Kendrick...nobody cares about papoose.
@@idolgrayreal boogie man don’t let nobody get away, he ducked lupe multiple times
LOL no one heard anything Papoose did.
So do you guys even like the j Cole mixtape/ ep ? Yall didn’t give yall opinions on the whole mixtape
That was the original plan for today before apology-gate. We’ll be discussing the tape next episode
He never said sorry tho
Apology is not just the word. He said more than I'm sorry. He said he was off path, should not have done it, couldn't sleep, my opponent is the illest to EVER do it, I pray God will realign me. All of that is an apology. Doesn't it feel like an apology?
All that boss talk and he gave up after 48 hours , weak
booo
Drake is good he killed two birds with one stone with FPS. He drew Kendrick out with his first verse on FPS and baited cole into going at Kendrick.
When is “Hip Hop” gonna grow up? This fake ass “Beef” “#1” nonsense is a waste of time….. Just make great music, push the culture forward and uplift!
Coop is making NC look bad by running to his biggest competitor to stay relevant 🤦🏾♂️.
We love seeing destruction, yall need something to talk about, need views. Yall wanna see them tear each other down
A rap battle is a battle of the words. It's not destruction. So relax.