Dealing with DELAYS | Underfloor Heating Prep - Portugal Property Renovation
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Our focus for the first quarter of the year has been getting our underfloor heating installed and the final layer of the limecrete floor laid. Unfortunately, we've had a number of delays with getting parts on site for the underfloor heating manifold. So instead of waiting around, there's more prep work to be done and some new materials to experiment with.
Join us for another couple of days on the renovation of our Portuguese farmhouse and see what we get up to.
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Love kylie’s laugh and Guys tongue in cheek sarcasm,, these two would be quite entertaining to share a wine or three with, love from Australia x
Totally agree, love the smut. Also from Australia 😉
Yes! I love how they banter back and forth. 😂
Our Aussie sense of humour is so unique, a little dirty and sarcastic with a touch of innuendo thrown in for good measure 😉🇦🇺
Us aussies will giggle at that kind of humour lol. Love these guys
Yes , love the giggles 😂 Greetings from Scotland !
My wife and I enjoy watching your DIY videos, because of your detailed truthfulness on issues making these videos. I also like to see how things are different between Europe and Canada.
Thanks guys. I live in Canada and enjoy watching your progress.
I’m so impressed by how you take these projects on. Your philosophy of using natural materials and the way you approach every challenge is very my style. And as the video moves on and I have a question in my mind, you seem to explain the why and there’s my answer! Great! Keep up the good work!
You guys never cease to amaze me with how smart and well prepared you always are. And you keep your sense of humor even when things are tough. You really inspire me. My husband and I have been married 49 years and are currently remodeling our eighth house.
Always sad when your videos end...you have the knack of making them informative but also fun to watch. Admire your work ethic and look forward to watching you achieve your goals and here's hoping the flipping underfloor heating turns up sooner rather than later! 🤞🤞
I can’t tell you how much I love your videos. I enjoy the humour, Kylie’s laugh and Guy’s humour What I like the most is how balanced your skills are. Kylie you make us gals proud!!!!
So inspiring. Your work is exceptionally neat and organized. How I wished your perfection was in many. Seems there are few people like you. I love watching intelligent people at work. You truly inspire me.
Agreed, they inspire everyone to "Up Their Game".
I agree and was about to say the same when I read your comment 👍 Kylie and Guy are so precise, the project might take a lot longer to finish but the end result will be truly incredible!
hit the nail on the head! watching other channels do things willy-nilly really frustrates me now!
Such patience guys, you’re very disciplined. Kudos, results are starting to show!
The place is looking great! I'm impressed with your hard work and skill level. Keep up the excellent work!
Love those cable tie anchors or what ever you call them. Love your humour and bantering with each other as you do your projects. Another lovely video.
I don't think I could handle a Club. Just watching the two of you makes me so tired I need a nap. If I watched more like you I would be comatose. Seriously, I love your energy and your interaction with each other. Some videos are like watching a comedy team play off each other. Keep the videos coming.
high fashion house fixing, and the double entendres are fantastic today
thank you for the effort explaining why some things are done in a way when they seem ridiculous to us viewers as we do not have the whole picture. really very much appreciated!
also i like when you explain your experiments and why. it makes very much sense to me and i understand much more from the issues you face.
Both my wife and my self love to watch what you are doing in or out of order, it does not matter to me.
All I have is youtube not any thing else because I am old and live in Canada( can send emails but that is about it)
Thanks for sharing this under floor heating video. Kylie and Guy, I love watching you do anything. They are equal parts of education and entertainment❤️❤️👏👏👏👏👏
Love the cable tie anchors. Not doing any wiring or plumbing but I'm sure I need to order some of these. It may seem trivial but sitting your plastics (tubing, Chicken netting, wire) in the bright sun for a time will make it just a little more manageable. Managing anything plastic from a roll can be more difficult than herding cats. Thanks again for all the work you put into your channel and good luck with the plumbing supplies!
The anchors are from Screwfix if you want to track them down.
Great tip on the plastic …. we never think of things like that in the moment but of course that will help massively 😃
Also if you turn the roll so the bend is down, rather than up, that makes it easier to keep in place.
Great idea! Thanks for all your research. LOVE your channel, highlight of our Saturday morning😃
Hello from Texas. The heated floors will be wonderful. I would be napping on them😂. Take care. It’s such fun and very informative watching you two.❤
Kylie, you were wearing a MAKE. DO. GROW. hoodie but I don’t see one in the store. I’m happy to see more progression in the house. 🤗❤️🎶👏👏👏⭐️⭐️⭐️🇨🇦
It’s this one 😀 - makedogrow.teemill.com/product/women-s-relaxed-fit-hoodie/
I am so pleased to hear the phrase “bum gun”! 😂
We have on, and I’ll never be without it!
Bum gun?!?! I shall replay the video to see the meaning in context but on the face of it, it's a shocker! It reminds me of our cousins over the pond using a fanny pack
Around 3:18 ... And it seems to mean the opposite direction to how I was thinking going by many other comments here ... Bidet squirting upwards rather than one's backside squirting downwards
Looking forward to every episode, this is real reality with real people👌👏love it (and Portugal) from Norway
Bum Gun, lol. Ya'll are so funny. Gave me a bright start to my day and I learned a new term.
Over too soon....not done with my coffee yet. Always look forward to your next video. Thank you both for the entertainment.
The Pethericks just did a vlog (friday night episode)on this same subject for underfloor heating at the convant and used rebar grid metal sheets and cable tied the water pipe to it to stop it floating up in the concrete. good luck
I love your videos! And you're really funny too. I watch them all. Much love from Oklahoma USA Jackie 🇺🇸💖
Saturday mornings with Kylie and Guy. It’s cold here in Oklahoma City Oklahoma too. I look forward to seeing what you two are up to. Thanks for a few chuckles. Now get cracking.
Enjoy your dry humour and relationship almost as much as your project . Thank you
Job well done . Love your humour too. 🤣 double meaning sentences. Keep it up. ( no pun or double meaning intended) . Hopefully your underfloor heating arrives soon, but on the plus side you have a lot of prep done.
*Another awesome video, with a good precise explanation to help beginners learning how to do this. I hope all the parts you are waiting on arrive real soon.*
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
Wow guys, really hard on the knees and back, treat yourself to a spa weekend, and what a splendid job. Those floors are coming along nicely. Don't think I'd use the zip ties with the anchors, they seem to work well. Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day...cheers 🍻👍👍💚
The Pethericks are doing the same type of flooring, maybe Billie, from France, could send you the clips you need. Just a thought. You two are such hard workers, your home sure is looking good.
Pretty sure his were clips that hammered down into the foam insulation :)
thankyou guys; that all looks so exhausting.. think I will have a coffee to recover.. 😅 Only two weeks so far for the part.. here in france told in December that we had to wait until the end of march for a part for a french manufactured chimney system.. so went over to the UK and got it off the shelf.. 😅
Same here with making videos! We did a diy radiant floor system with 3 redundant loops in Brooklyn. Dirt>gravel>polystyrene> wire mesh > pex> cement floor. It runs off the existing hot water heat boiler. Nice. Waiting on key parts is frustrating 😀 Eric.
It never ceases to impress me how structured and disciplined you approach your projects.
Great job. And I love the teaching aspect!
“The Pethericks” are just laying underfloor heating at their Convent this week.
They mentioned that you can’t use metal with lime. When you explained I went like “ Ah, I understand and what a genius idea to use the plastic grid to hold the pipes in place”.
Regarding the cold weather, order yourself some “Hothands Hand warmers”. These packs stay warm for 8 hours.
When we had the big freeze and no heat last year in Texas, I stuffed these hand warmers between a tight fitting undershirt and sweatshirt to keep my kids and myself warm. It worked.
You could even cut the legs of a pair of old pantyhose, stuff the hand warmer in there and tie it on your lower back for warmth and pain relief.
You gotta do what you need to do to get a project done and fight the elements.
Stay warm and safe! Many blessings to you and your wonderful project.
Love all the innuendo in this! Top marks
I can really see the great advancement and it will be lovely when finished. Your hard work is paying off.
The floors are looking great! They kind of pull the room together. Now we can visualize with the room will look like! You guys are such hard workers. Maybe soon you can take a vacation (as they say in the US) or holiday! :)
You look fine. You look like you're trying to stay as comfortable as possible. Onward! Well done!!
Awesome contractors . Love you guys and work
Kylie is never tired of such a hard work and when you would espect some very different, she laughs...
Did you both espect to work so hard when you decided to buy?
Lots of admiration to both of you.
Trust me, I get very tired 😀 …. but my drive and determination overcome that.
We knew this project would be a lot of work but we were fully expecting to get the help of some builders … unfortunately we’ve not managed to find any that are available and have the skill/knowledge/desire to build using the techniques we want
Bathroom floor heating is most important. Being from a cold country, that is the one room we do make sure we have floor heating in. 😊
In addition to this all being so fascinating, your filming is just incredible, so well done. I love your videos.
I watched until Guy said, "That's it for now," and stopped but realized I'd forgotten to wait for Kylie's "bye-bye" so I restarted the video. Nice sign-off. Also, love the work so far.
Looking forward to 'something else' next weekend lol whatever it might be. Hope it warms up for you soon xx
That is a very good idea putting a lavatory near the door to the outside. Convenient. Great foresight!
Just outside the toilet will also be where we drop off our outside boots etc. Would have loved to have had a proper mud room but there’s not enough space 😟
The bum gun - genuine lolz - I'm a massive convert of the bidet or a side of toilet bum gun. Saves paper too.
Once again you both have accomplished quite alot and done it very well. I look forward to your videos and progress. Keep up great work!
Never thought I'd see you struggle to put it in the right hole...
You two are a bloody delight to watch, and yes I really am enjoying the progress of the whole reno. What's growing in the veggie patch????
Interestingly those rolls of thick plastic mesh are readily available down here in OZ, in local Bunnings chain. They are a hardware and gardening go-to place for us. We use them to fence-off areas.
Like the experiments, lessons learned and ensuing changes. Forms, tapping/tamping and leveling has gotten better and faster. Noticed the laser and stick level combo. Yep, you have to try different materials and techniques to get around affordability and supply availability challenges. Confidence by successful repetition.
I actually found the laser level method much slower and more fiddly! Have gone back to using forms, and more of them. Once all the edges are done (since the cork is no good at being a form) it will be much easier and faster.
My core muscles are also getting better which means stretching and working with both arms is becoming easier too … times like these I wish I’d done yoga 😂🤣😂
I ordered material online at the beginning of December and I am still waiting for it. Can take up to 28 days I was told via email. Bem-vindo a Portugal.
Wowsers! We always expect delays but still always hope things might arrive when we’re told 😂🤣😂
@@MAKEDOGROW When I lived in Thailand I found out I hadn't had water for nearly a week (hot season) because my neighbours Nanna had pulled out my pump to plug in her wok :) Village life is so full of funny stories (in retrospect).
Man, you're lucky with a wife that skilled :D
It is progressing but frustrating waiting for deliveries .. You are very patient. 😀❤❤
Kylie is a boss....FACTS
Thanks, Guy! The walls look fantastic! 😍
Welcome (though it’s Kylie … I do all the comment admin 😃)
@@MAKEDOGROW And you did most of the digging! 😉 That Christmas Rendering Marathon 2022 Video was intimidating! 😆 🤣
Respect, great job!
Your home is going to be so beautiful!
Alway's look forward to your goals ad achievements 👏
From New Zealand 🇳🇿
Very tidy job guys. Thumbs up.
You might find the sysfix cable tie thingies in a local hardware store. I got some in Andalusia a couple of weeks ago, much cheaper than amazon at less than €4 for 100. Been using them for the electrics here, but there are very useful. Just a thought do you really need the grid and the sysfix plugs with ties? Freezing ourselves to death here too!
Interesting video, look forward to the next video, greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦
The list of great things about Portugal is very long. The minuses of Portugal are few, but the delays are at the top of that short list. Delays in receiving items and materials, delays in scheduling work to happen... often a job is started and then halfway through it is abandoned for months or a year. i.e. I've got a crew's big electric cement mixer at my house since Oct 2021 when they installed calçada walk paths. Half are done, still waiting for the rest. The flip side is that after waiting for many months, often out of the blue things happen all on the same day with little or no notice. It makes planning very difficult. I wait four or six months for various things, Then on a day that I'm hours away I get message from 3 different entities saying they're on the way. Esta é a vida em Portugal.
Put the zip tie through the screw before hammering it in. A bit of foreplay to the main event....
Clamping down the wire net/chicken net a bit overengineered assuming the pipes will be attached to the net, why not just a simple nail that's close to being down being bent and hold the mesh/net at place? The whole thing (mesh/net/pipes) will be covered by lime/sand (I assume) anyway and thus permamently fixated so the attachement of the pipes to the net/mesh is "temporary" and concequently should be done as simply as possible.
Yes - put the cable tie into the slot BEFORE you hammer the plug in. The cable tie is for the pipe after all.
looking forward to the installing the underfloorheating
Us too 😃
Het alternatief voor in de cement vloer lijkt mij geweldig te werken.Wie weet gaan er meer mensen dit gebruiken.
Very neat, tidy work!
I love your energy I sure. I always liked doing heavy job
If it is any consolation: even in Switzerland you have to wait for months to get a new heating system, and heat pumps are the absolute front runners with long delivery time. Keeping my fingers crossed that you get everything before next winter!
What are your plans for upstairs? Are you putting in radiators?
I love your solution to preparing underfloor heating using best product with lime.
Perhaps I missed it but why not insert zip tie prior to nailing pegs and using zips to hold pipes in place and eliminate plastic fencing?
We did consider using the plugs/ties direct to the pipes, but it would make it extremely slow and fiddly to lay the pipe … drilling and adding fixings at the same time as laying the pipe. The ‘geo-grid’ will make it much faster, and we’ll be more easily able to adjust pipe runs should we need to
Yep, it's all becoming clear now....kind of
Geogrid is also used in roadworks. Mayby you could source it via a roadworks company?
all just ingenious.
The best view of that room is the door. I hope the bathroom doesn't mess that up.
Very ingenious!
Guy you need a little dump truck. Or some hydraulics retrofitted on that current truck. I really have no idea what I’m talking about and the possibilities or the cost but seeing your back breaking shovelling gives me ‘lumbago’. Or maybe you just love love love shovelling and it’s benefits on the waistline?? 😅
Why don't you take the concrete in with the wheelbarrow 🤔
Well done. So not 'make do' but more 'adapt and do'
Nice job guys😘
I wonder if "Christmas tree" or "push mount" zip ties would work to hold the underfloor heating hoses in place, they would hold in a small hole drilled into the slab. (similar setup to what was used to hold the electrics to your wall, just without the need for a screw.)
I had to look those up, never seen them before (even in the UK). They definitely would work assuming they have a similar strength to the anchors
Enlightening pre-slabbing video
Have you explained why for your project water-based underfloor heating was preferrable to electrical floor heating?
Watching you makes me see all the things I should've done before my body aged badly LOL
Bum gun :)
Never heard of it called that before :)
Back home in Indonesia we call that jet spray.
All the best with the new toilet!
Bird Netting or Deer Netting should come in Larger Rolls
Did you guys consider just using a concrete floor? I know you’re making a lot of effort to make everything eco and breathable but seems like it would make the whole installation simpler.
cold? .. .nah, that's just product placement ;-) Nice hoodie!
😂🤣😂 though why the female hoodie lacks pockets still confuses me 🫤
I know how Kylie feels when you reach for then scissors, then don’t get to use them. Lol!
War adinku maxaad aheeydeen horta!😘
In the US, I am currently having renovation projects done in my home. I keep getting delayed by unavailable parts. Are Pandemic-related supply chain issues a constant obstacle in Portugal and significant schedule breaker?
I am asking because I am weighing the choices of importing supplies for installation of specilalty systems in a shipping container along with my household items.
@@dav1dsm1th Are you in Portugal? I am aware of the global nature of pandemics.
I don’t think this delay is pandemic related at all, think the part is just coming from the UK and that’s taking longer than expected (we’ve chosen a global ufh heating brand).
Here there’s also very much a supply-demand factor. Many of the materials we choose aren’t that common so getting hold of them is more difficult…. and yes, underfloor heating really isn’t very common here even though the winters are quite cold.
So if you have things, or want specialist items, check if they’re available in Europe first. It’s probably easier to get from within the EU rather than import
Please guys allow for a bidet. Very hygienic piece of essential porcelain. Please just think about it?
Did you not hear us talk about a ‘bum gun’ 😂 … it’s the modern bidet and doesn’t need any space
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Quick question, do you notice a difference in the ambient temperature after adding the plaster?
I'm wondering why the netting is out of plastic?
Where do you life? Love your project
Did you say, "bum gun"? Is that another term of a bidet?
I am curious though, what would happen if there was ever a leak in the heating pipes, in the future. I know you research everything very thoroughly. Did you find any references to repairing one of these systems?
How would a leak develop?
Yes, modern bidet 😀
The system will get a full pressurised test before the slab is laid, and there are no joins in the pipe (all standard installation practices)
@@MAKEDOGROW I did not know that. Thank you for responding.