Jeep XJ Sound Deadening & Vibration Dampening
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2022
- While waiting for the Turbo I've moved onto the interior to keep the progress going on the build. I haven't run carpets or headliner now for about seven years and despite the practicality with corrosion control and water the drone of the Jeep is getting a bit much.
Obviously the tires play a big part of the noise in the cab but ultimately my plan is to take out the vibration of the sheet metal with Salento Coat. I considered many alternatives but went with silent coat as it will help thermally with its reflective coating, but also there was a 40% off deal.
Its easy to use but its best to deal with any corrosion or body work before installing. Also consider the weight your adding to the Jeep which in my case is 28kg of material.
Hope this video helps out and long live the shinny's.
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Jeep Spec:
1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ 2.5TD RHD.
35x12.50r15 BFG KM3's with 15x8 3.75" backspacing (-19 offset).
Lift Front - RC 4.5" Coils and N2 Shocks (3" Coil Spacer).
Front Shock Bar Pin Eliminator.
Dana 30 High Pinion with Artec Industries Lower Control Arm Mounts with modified upper mount and modified Track Bar mount.
Front RC Control Arm Drop Bracket.
Ruff Stuff Short Arm Single Himes.
RC Extended Sway Bar Links.
Dana 30 Rock Crusher Diff Cover.
Ruff Stuff One Ton OTK Steering.
6" Lift Drop Pitman Arm.
Ruff Stuff Front and Center Frame Stiffeners.
Rear DIY Frame Stiffener and Rear Frame Tie in Kit.
6" x 2" Box Rocker replacement with Tube Slider.
Modified Factory Bumper with Side Sliders.
Rear Tow Hitch Tire Carrier that bolts into Rear Frame Tie in Kit.
Modified upper Shock Crossmember for Rear Shocks
Rear Axle Chrysler 8.25 29 Spline with modified High Clearance Shock Mounts.
Rear Shocks 6.5" Trailmasters.
Rear Leaf Springs 5.5" Rubicon Express
Rear RC Shackle Relocation Bracket.
Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines front and back.
Warrior 9500lb Winch.
Front Bumper - discontinued - Авто та транспорт
Revisiting as this is one of the better channels to learn from without blaring background music and has good lighting with clear narration. I've done bedlining, noise decoupler, insulation with a foam rubber mat topped with forward floor liners. Floor liners are a massive upgrade as one can just dump them out when dirty, or gets filled with snow or sand. Product list for me has been Herculiner bedliner, Kilmat 80mil decoupler, 4mm Siless insulation in my 4 liter powered 1987 XJ Pioneer. Foam rubber mat is about 12mm which provides a bit more insulation itself. Undecided on the backerbaord/headliner refurbishment due to the fact in my girlfriends XJ along the side of the roof I installed some magnetic bars that are really usedful to hold items, and even the keys. Cheers 👍✌
I used some kill mat type material along with high density foam on the headliner. Its worked quite well at removing the noise and keeping the heat in or out. I may further glue fabric material to the roof later.
It sounds like you have done a solid job on your Jeep, it makes a big difference to the noise when your driving!
Thanks for watching and for the comments on the channel.
"Ol McMagpie had a jeep, oh my oh my ooh.
And in that jeep he had some shiny stuff, oh my oh my ooh. With some shiny bits here and some shiny parts there, here some shiny, there some shiny EVERYWHERE some shiny stuff, oh McMagpie had a jeep oh my oh my OOOHH!" Thanks Mike, I'll be having this lil diddy stuck in my head for the rest of the day 😴
When I repaired some minor floor pan rust in my 96XJ, I also remove the headliner and applied a product made in Russia called Noico, which is similar to fat-mat, but roughly 1/3 price. The inside of the roof was covered with this along with the floors and inside the doors on the outer skin. Made a noticeable difference in road noise.
For corrosion control in the rust belt of the USA, I apply a yearly coating of Fluid Film on and in the chassis.
Sounds like a good solution. Fluid film is definitely great protection. I often apply and check everything yearly also. Keeps on top of it all. Thanks for watching
With your jokes and sense of humor your videos CAN'T be boring, ever.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoy the video!
Best car sound damping I have found is to take off my hearing aids!
A great tip that I’ve jotted down. It’s unrelated, but it reminds me that mine needs a new headliner soon. Silly me used a cleaner on the original that rendered the glue null and void. In my defense, I was undergoing radiation therapy, and the ole brain was a bit of mess.
As you obviously know, sh*t happens. I certainly hope that all is well. My grandfather beat cancer twice. Keep on keeping on!
Been fighting the little bugger in my head for almost 12 years now. I was not supposed to be here, nor be walking again. It’s not in my nature to quit. I started a channel to show other survivors that a diagnosis is not a death sentence. And a prognosis sure as hell doesn’t have to determine your future. Cheers amigo, thanks for the comment.
Wow thats nothing short of amazing. I will definitely check out the channel. Really inspirational.
Thanks for the kind comment mate. Your bushcraft videos have helped me immeasurably. I do miss those, but my introduction to that community has only been in the last four years. Back in the late eighties and very early nineties I was fortunate to assist on several survival courses by a former Vietnam era Green Beret. But time and then the brain tumor erased much of those perishable skills.
Finding the community on UA-cam honestly gave me a reason to live. Cheers dude.
Ah mate I can't imagine how hard it must be and have been. It takes great strength mentally and physically to push through things like this. I cant say I've had anything like this and a prey I don't but if I do I hope I've got the strength that you have. Hats off to you and thanks for the comment
Loving these videos! Makes me want to get the Landy sorted and quieter
I love the way you're talking to us and yourself as you're taking the seat out.
"And then the camera's in the way, cuz you're making a UA-cam video."
"God, these things are f'ing heavy Mike. No wonder these things only go 2 miles an hour!" 😂
An unbelievable wealth of information and experience! You're a natural born instructor. 😊
I did the Landy in silent coat and it is an awesome product
Thanks for touching base on the seats. The U.S. version is a little less desirable but yours look very similar to the ones used in the U.S. WJ Grand Cherokee which I have heard of being possibly compatible. Enjoyed the video as usual. Thanks again!
Always great content mate 👍 🏴
Good job again Mike 😉
I commented before about what I did but I did dynamat on the floors and wheel wells and in the doors and rear quarters then I put closed cell foam waterproof insulation over the dynamat on the floor and after that put new carpet with the original style insulation removed because that original insulation soaks up a lot of water.
The dynamat in the doors was a really nice upgrade they sound so nice when they shut now.
I like my comfy interior I have a roll cage and a lot of mods but I like my carpet and stuff so I try to keep it nice and that waterproof insulation makes a massive difference. I used noico green foam it's closed cell waterproof stuff. It covered the pretty dynamat but it's all under the carpet anyway.
I don't have a headliner and I don't want a headliner but I haven't put the dynamat on the roof yet even though it would probably be really nice but for the last 10 years or so I've covered my roof in stickers from all sorts of things and places and I don't really want to cover up my stickers haha.
I used real dynamat I think most all sound deadening products are roughly the same. I also did full coverage everywhere even inside the doors. I also replaced the vapor barrier in the doors with a better product it's a thin sound deadening I believe it was sound skins brand but that gives me another layer for the doors and most importantly seals out vapor and dust. When driving down dusty roads with the windows up I could see dust coming in from inside the doors around the factory barrier that was failing.
I'd highly suggest putting your sound deadening in the doors it's one of my favorite things about the sound deadening it's a bit difficult to get full coverage it takes multiple little pieces and doesn't need to be perfect but I covered 99 percent of the inside of the door skins and it reminds me of Mercedes doors or fancy cars that have that really nice solid sound when they shut.
I just recently replaced my oem limited model leather seats with corbeau seats up front. Originally I had cloth seats but I swapped to xj leather seats a long time ago and they've been super high maintenance repairing the frames and replacing parts and replacing the seat cushions when they tear I've gone through a lot of used seat parts. I'm happy with the corbeau seats I got the baja xrs with new brackets it's definitely a nice upgrade they look a little racey but they are comfy and also heated which my wife likes.
I really like your rear cargo shelf/cage I'm thinking of trying to find something similar. My 2nd battery is in the rear and I have my air and tools and stuff and sometimes a fridge so I'd like more storage.
I'm enjoying all these videos mate. Your like a diferent man to the bushcraft chap! You have many hats my friend. A man of 1000(or 2) hats!
Appreciate you watching. I wasn't really in a good way years back when I filmed bushcraft, I guess I'm happier now and more myself on camera. Anyway glad you like them!
@@WorkshoptoWilderness oh really? That's a shame mate. Well I found the information in the bushcraft videos excellent and entertaining. These ones are those things but also funny(possibly more so having watched the bushcraft ones).
P.s stop making me want to buy a jeep.
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I guess life is complicated but anyway the videos are there and I enjoyed making them. I would buy one before its too late mate haha 😄
I used killmat 50 mil. Made a hug difference. Especially inside the door panels as well.
Nice video im doing this now on my jeep xj the only thing i got a surprise when i removed the floor mat in my car looks like i have a flintstones car so i have alot of work in front of me before i can lay soundproofing
First of all I love your videos. Ive been watching all the way from Anchorage, Alaska and have been getting some great ideas for my jeep project. Me and my roommate are debating where your accent is from in the UK. He thinks Cockney and I think...maybe West country? We have no idea and were hoping you could just tell us haha
Thanks for watching and hello from Sweden 🇸🇪. I'm originally from the UK, West Country, South Gloucestershire. My father is from the Midlands so there is a bit of that in there too I think.
Thanks again and glad you enjoy the videos
@@WorkshoptoWilderness Thank you for that quick reply! Looking forward to your next video.
I can’t help but be curious of how effective a layer of flex seal would be on the floor to knock down the magpie invasion. I bet it’d do wonders, but you’d have to tape the seams and gutters up before application to preserve your water flow routes.
I used that exact same silent coat on my Mazda Bongo self build. I used it in the back cab and the roof but I feel I used too much, like yourself though I tend to go extra and added more weight too. I don't have it in the front cab yet, I'm waiting to see what the next mot says for future upgrades but I might go with the sound deadening/insulating layer, being mid engined I sit on top of the engine so it is loud regardless but the Silent Coat made a huge difference, before you had to shout to the passenger, after you could simply talk and I'm sat on top of a 2.5td.
"Orite mate, nice Jeep. . She got a Turbo.?"
Video idea: RHD Steering box access, nip up the nut. . . . . . Slam panel, Radiator Out, Air filter on different side tdi . . ?
Was thinking of de-carpeting mine. . . screwdriver in hand I bottled it. . . . . soundwaves.
ooh shiney , likey
"When you have stuff ontop of stuff when you then need stuff you gotta move stuff out the way to get to stuff"
- Wise Man
Once upon a time
I’m really curious what you end up doing for the rear storage area!
I'm thinking of keeping the upper cargo rack but moving the legs out to the side. Then putting in a pull out platform the size of the bottom of the trunk. Kind of like one huge pull out table. On this I will have boxes, fridge and stuff that can be accessed from all sides. I don't want drawers but just to be able to pull it all out on a platform.
Great video as always bud. Good to see you out the 3D printed parts to good use. You need to fill the top one though. What you planning for the top?
Was it you Richard who sent those parts? They are really useful. I've got a high speed USB in the front and one in the back with them. I'm going to do lights, maybe winch. I have no idea what to put on the top? Maybe cb radio switch.
@@WorkshoptoWilderness Yeah it was. I've got the centre rear one with a double USB and the front centre one for spot lights and light bar. Will probably have working lights for the top one day. Glad you like them bud.
AH thanks again for those. They are really cool and they tidy up those ash trays haha. Megan is happy as there is a usb charger front and back now which helps with entertaining the little one on long drives. I will see what I can do with the top.
Hello Mike! Great content!
How is the sound dampener holding up? Just removed the carpet from my xj and i am thinking of going the same route as you.
Did you end up covering the shiny stuff or are you still showing off the bling? Have noticed that you seem to have covered up the roof in later videos would be awesome to know what material you used!
Hälsningar från Sundsvall 🇸🇪
Hey Johan, thanks for watching! Its holding up well. It's made more of a difference on the roof and the rear than the floors. It's also worked really well on the insides of the doors.
Its stopped a lot of vibrations and made the jeep sound quieter. The floor has been the biggest challenge. I think another layer of something is needed over the bling, but my worry is water getting trapped.
The roof I covered with black foam which looks great, the rear cargo area has a rubber sheet. The floor pans just bling bling and I'm not sure what to do. You can also buy a black version of this in Sweden from BRL Electronics, I would do that as its going to look better!
@@WorkshoptoWilderness thanks for the quick response! I’ll probably order the black ones 👍
Ha en trevlig helg!
PLEASE post a link where we can get that RIGHT SIDE snorkel. Please.
topdelar.se/products/1725-snorkel-jeep-cherokee-xj-diesel
Good video 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽....regards from Santiago de Chile 🇨🇱
I pulled the carpet out of my 2 door xj to replace some rotted out sheet metal. Like you I was going to raptor line the interior but without carpet to put back on I would lose that insulation and sound deadening. I’m wondering now if I save my money and just spray paint the interior and put that stuff in to get rid of the noise?
It’s cold up here in Canada and any insulation is good insulation especially if it gets rid of gravel road noise. Great video!
What I have done provides less sound deadening than the carpet. An idea I would do is pull the carpet, raptor line, then apply some sound damping sheets like I have done. Then you can put the carpet back and cut out the floor pan areas. That was thought about doing. Just having carpet with no floor areas so it's around the arches and center colum but I just have mats at the bottoms. I'm not sure if this is a good idea but it's an option.
Hey Mike how is this stuff holding up? Did you send up putting down anything else other than the floor mats over top of the shiny product?
I can recommend a brew kit for the inside of one of the gullwing doors. Mine is very useful.
Thats a nice idea, maybe a brew and lunch kit.
@@WorkshoptoWilderness I've got a couple of cups, coffee, tea bags, coffeemate and a jetboil all inside one side. A small LED light strip above and a clip on table for the side of the disco.
Hey Mike, I was wondering...
When reinstalling all the interior trim did you do anything to dampen the rattling? Any rubber seals or grommets? Or has everything stayed tight enoigh that it isn't noticeable? My 01 is in excellent condition but the noise is unbelievable and since I'll be bedlining the interior soon I thought I'd ask if you had this problem too. Thanks!
I've used rubber washers and also foam under the trim in certain places to stop the noise. It's taken a while but it's better than it was. Sound damping foam is pretty useful for this and it's quite
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By SD foam do you mean the thick 4-8mm closed cell stuff? I was looking at that but figured it's supposed to go over a base layer like the foil you put in this video
Nicely done Mike. We'll worth your time and effort for the result. Does a rh drive vehicle cost much more to insure in Sweden over a lh drive vehicle?
I totally get the stuff on top of stuff to get the stuff what with having everything I own in a Mazda 6, it's a nightmare and I hate it. Lovely car to drive but useless for living out of really. Out of the temporary Shepherds hut and back to the Highlands on Monday back into the tent, joyous 🙄 Maybe one day I'll get lucky and have a proper home I can actually call home.
Ah mate, is that accommodation part of work, or are you nomadic currently? I know that feeling from my 20s. It's hard when your roaming with no constant. I often felt like if I had a place of my own all would be well, but living in a foreign country has made me feel like I don't belong un the UK anymore, or here lol. Anyway thanks for watching. Rhd Is no more expensive than a lhd. It's actually much easier for to drove a rhd unsurprisingly.
@@WorkshoptoWilderness The accommodation was offered along with a job at Military Mart that I was offered (owner helping a homeless dad and daughter), however, it doesn't pay enough to be able to rent a place and cover the bills. The owner wants to rent the Shepherds hut out by spring time so I'd have no choice but to quit then so I'm doing it now instead of prolonging the pointlessness of it all.
Not a nomad, just homeless after divorce in 2016.
I would love a place to settle down, almost anything would do, even just a tiny piece of land and stay in the tent if need be.
I understand about feeling like you don't belong here in the UK, I feel exactly the same. Sweden is where I've wanted to be for a few years but with little money and no way to establish a base to get started has prevented my dream. Mental health is struggling with the concept of it all, it just seems to be a never ending vicious cycle. Having no support, no friends and family that only care about themselves makes it all very very tough at times.
The car is mostly packed up now ready for tomorrow's drive from Lancashire back to the Scottish Highlands mostly because its easy on the eye and its legal to be in a tent as I'm sure you know and be left alone.
I'd love to come to Sweden though and stay for good with all my heart and soul.
Ah mate that's a very tough situation. Obviously that makes sense about Scotland given the land access laws and such. Are you with your daughter then while on the road?
Life is a bit simpler out here for certain although the cold in the north makes its almost impossible to long term camp outside. There are places you can rent and stay, cabins, huts, spare lodges that people own. Some don't expect much in rent but its the kind of arrangement that often requires being here and talking to people. That's what we found anyway. We arrived with virtually no money or clue of where to go and we lived in the jeep and just networked until things happened.
The difference being, we had the money to get here first which I appreciate isnt easy. I am really sorry to hear of your struggles. Mental health is something I have struggled with for a long time and I think it will be for the rest of my life. I cant obviously understand exactly what your going through and it sound like a lot of things to deal with and fight through.
Sweden isnt all rosy to be fair. I mean I like it here but I also miss many aspects of the UK. If you can save enough one day to make it here nd you want to stay, it is possible, its just being here and riding out the storm of getting setup. We had a very difficult time here for about three years on arrival. It took its toll on my health, metal state, Megan's also. I would like to say we came out of it stronger, but its going to take time for all that to heal I think.
Hopefully its worth it in the long run.
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Thanks Mike. I hugely appreciate what you've typed there. I honestly had no idea it was that difficult for you both to get started, watching your videos over the years you made it all look quite simple. I have the money to get there, its how to, stay there that I can't fathom really. Being there in all that amazing nature is all that's needed for our mental health and yes my daughter is with me. Our heads tell us that Sweden is where we both want to be, so so very much, it's the how to stay part and the 90 day rule that's messing our dreams up. I don't know how to make it happen, it's really frustrating.
Great video. I’ve been wondering how noisy your car is since you mentioned that you no longer have carpet.
Its a bit loud to be fair. Hopefully it's a little better now. Thanks for watching
@@WorkshoptoWilderness hopefully you’ll update us with the results…once you get a new turbo, lol.
Do you happen to remember the bolt size on the overhead console
The console on the roof? Its held on by two sheet metal screws at the front and a clip at the back.
How many sheets did you use for the whole truck?
80 sheets in total.
These are universal rubber mats or dedicated for XJ's?
They are specific to the XJ. You can get various brands, mine are made by outlander
Hey, quick question, are you still just running floor mats on top of the sound deadening, or have you found something to cover the deadening…?
I ran just mats for a whole but I still found the noise to be too much. I've bought some sound deadening adhesive foam to go over it. Its waterproof and it comes in large sheets. I will try this and take into account the water collection points.
@@WorkshoptoWilderness yeah I’m having the same issue, did you go with the same brand?
@@bmonden I'm using a black adhesive 1cm sound isolated foam from BRL Electronics. A 9 Pack is 700kr and they are 75x45cm. www.brl.se/sv/artiklar/silent-coat-noise-buffler-20.html
It was this stuff but it didn't cost that much for one. I will try and find my original link
@@WorkshoptoWilderness my man! Thanks Mike…keep up the good work. Jeeps looking saweeet!!
What gears do you have in it now?
Using 4.10 now, installing 4.88 in a couple of weeks.
Is that product $$$. .?????
Like u I think I would cover sd much as possible !!! Y ??
Bcuz it's also going to HELP keep ye olden Jeep WARMER. 😆😃👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
It was 1130kr for 80 sheets. So like 100gbp. Not crazy expensive for the whole jeep but it's not cheap either on my budget. Hopefully it's a bit warmer and quieter now
Mike I would watch you paint a wall and watch you watch it dry........👍🤭
Haha thanks mate, I won't bore you with that video! Appreciate you watching
I cant wait till you move back to a place where you can get back to bushcraft shows. with 17k subs,,,, what more evidence do you need. sweeden was a nice idea but i dont think it is for you.
i hope you have not given up your citizenship with england that would be a bummer.