Ivan, your 1-year-old and Tina are signs of a one-of-a-kind individual. I've had dogs for 40 years and used 1 method (Koehler). I've read and watched different trainers explain how they train dogs but never seen a person that has done so much for the well-being of dogs. Thank you.
You said critical words here , TRUST and COMPLIANCE. Essential in my 50 year experience. There some things things that simply have no room for any form of negotiation. Excellent as always Ivan. Thank you . YAY TINA is doing great. So glad she has you .
What i love about Ivan's training is how much emphasis he puts on building a strong relationship of trust and respect. Without that you wont get very far, and people have to create all knew ways to try and get their dog to comply
This is so clear that I'm shocked some self proclaimed trainers attack this! Yes I myself have a bond with my 2 year old Mali girl and she knows when I say NO it's NO. She trusts me to guide and educate her. And of course I lay the groundwork and my guidance makes her happy. Gracias Ivan with great explanation and more an awesome demonstration. Keep 'Pushing Amigo. Salutes from Madrid, Spain
Great video on this subject, Mr. Balabanov. Thank you for continuing to promote what is in the best interests of dogs. There are too many trainers who have a false understanding of dogs that is based on their human emotion and experience. Even humans have to forfeit consent on a daily basis in so many areas. If you have a job, there will be many, many times you will not be asked for consent on one issue or another. If you drive a car, you are following many rules that were made for your safety, and you were not asked to consent to them; you were told to abide by them and you will be corrected or punished if you do not. Not being asked for consent is part of life, whether human or animal.
Thank you for putting the practical examples in the video. I was completely lost and not getting the point at all at the beginning. What a beautiful demonstration of trust. I guess the difficult thing is to achieve that kind of relationship, I most certainly hope to get there with my dog. It's a joy to see Tina like that.
Thank you! at my school for dog trainers "Training Without Conflict" we use many training examples and I teach trainers how to create this kind of relationship
Ivan I had a title that required the use of a muzzle and a dog who had his other titles, was my older trained dog but I decided not too long before the trial to enter him. It took all of a few minutes to work with him on it doing it this very way. Placed it on, told him good, ok and took it off and played. He pawed a couple of times I "eh eh" he looked at me and realized oh we don't do that and that was it. Entered, passed his title with high trial :-) I of course had already built trust and markers and communication (because I had worked with you in seminars years ago and watched your videos :-)) for years but because of those foundations we never had issues with anything. I would just tell him what I liked and didn't and that was ok. My current boy used the same principles to teach to stick his head under my arm so I could restrain him for a shot. Took less then 5 min and there was no struggle. Because we can communicate easily.
many of us needalso thiskind of training. I bumped only in positive reinforcement trainers and I had to arrange by my self, however, my play with my dog was awful and akward, I solved my biggest issue with him which was aggression, crazy jumping, countersurfing, ecc, but It's hard to recall a nice play with him and funny for him🤦 I know where i succeeded but also where i failed, but I wouldn't mind to see it from a different angle
I just don’t understand what is so terrible about teaching your dog the meaning of “no”! Clarity is always “kind”, and clarity includes knowing what is not wanted and acceptable as much as what is.
I am reading a P+ It is basically a d*ck measuring contest without the d*ck. According to the behaviorist's big words to describe big prey drives, and her big advice is to avoid walking the dog in public for "at least 6 months." Evidently unaccustomed to a genuine dog that has not been bred for show
@@IvanBalabanov I've been following Tina's journey every step of the way and am blown away that you got this far without meds. I work with at risk shelter dogs and patiently await anything you have to share about this journey. I've never seen CCD treated without meds and what an important learning opportunity for so many of us. Guardian vs. Owned for consent is certainly of interest as mentioned.
Thank you for speaking with common sense. It is not so difficult to understand that sometimes certain things must happen and must be done. It is all on behalf of the dogs’ well being, not our “emotions” about it.
Id really like to see how the famous positive only youtube trainers would've been able to transform Tina the way you did. I think we are all still waiting for that video. I won't hold my breath.
I'm so grateful for you to have specifically covered the concept of consent because it is being promoted very heavily in sheltering these days...and...to your point, while the intent was probably appropriate originally, how it is being advised and the implementation is often times not in the best interest of the dogs in the context of sheltering.
Don’t get me started 😂 Imagine dogs consent on this one: “hey do you want to spend next long while in a shelter? “ or hey “ do you agree to get spayed or neutered?” Or “do you consent not to go on walks but only take few feet in front of the door for several months until you learn not to pull on your no-pull harness” 🤷🏻♂️
@@IvanBalabanov LOL!!! Those no-pull harnesses are overused. Sadly, Pulling is one of the reasons shelter dogs are returned, potential owners try the dog at the shelter with no-pull harnesses then when they get home the dog pulls like a four in hand draft horse team. It's bait and switch dishonesty and dogs suffer due to bleeding-heart mentalities.
Ivan has good concept with the psychology of a dog and explains it well. With horses it is often referred to as horsemanship. A concept many never understand even though it is stated/explained. Thanks for the video.
Love Steve Young for horses. He has such a way about him. I don't own a horse or have any desire to, but can watch his videos, no matter how long they are. Right!?!
excellent video Ivan and what a pleasure to see you work with your amazing dogs tremendous job with Tina by the way. i couldnt agree with you more on this i train and compete in gundog trials in the uk and aside from the training as you have so very well showed in this video there are things and times when things need or have to be done of wich the dog has no say in it, myself like many others have a fantastic bond with my dogs they trust me i do not betray that bond or trust when i have to do something with or to them it is always in there best interest and i do not have to shape or take little baby steps to achieve these things, as yourself i very varely get any pushback and just a tone alteration in my voice and a simple no surfices the reason i find it so easy is all in the the dogs training and reward system, bond and trust why make things so complicated when things can be so simple.
Fantastic video! I just Love, Love seeing the relationship that you have with your dogs! It makes all the difference in training! What a miracle your training has done in Tina! You have not only saved her life, but you have given her a life!! ❤
i saw the vid of tina the dog with ocd when you first got her. wow. you not only cured her, but look at her thrive. i have your mini course and would love to know your protocols and methods used. this was a dog with zero focus. truly amazing results.p.s.-i agree, a dog must comply, as it could be a life saving command that saves her from running into traffic etc one day. equally important, as you demonstrate is the phenomenal relationship of love and respect and fun times that you build with your dogs. it's jaw dropping results of how you turned tina around. now her happiness is off the scale, no more being lost in ocd.
I love watching your videos, I have been a pet dog trainer for 40 yrs and I have worked to teach my clients the same things that you talk about in your videos, regarding building a relationship of trust so that compliance comes so much easier. I really love your work and it's great to see Tina with her new mindset!
I really respect your devotion to fostering a real conversation among different trainers of different schools of thought. I've been training for a little over 20 years, and that idea has increased my capacity for learning from all kinds of other trainers. My take (for whatever that's worth) is this: 5:49
Loved this! My youngest fenale, she will let me do anything to her, all necessary husbandry chores like nails and baths for example, putting on/wearing cones, panties, surgical recovery suits, protective booties, examining and treating wounds, etc. She never fights me. My instructor JUST a week ago, introduced me to Chase and Catch, because this same dog struggles to maintain attention, as she seems concerned or worried in new environments and is shy around new people. We noticed a huge improvenent in her attitude and attention in one session!! My instructor advised me to buy Chase and Catch 2.0. I bought the entire Puppy Bundle! Looking forward to applying your training to help her trust me as much in novel environments and with new people, as she does with every day life.
I’m so glad you wrote this. My rescue dog is shy though so much better with all our training, but it’s not 100%. She’s 2 so not a puppy, I was thinking of getting this but then thought it might only be for puppies, maybe it would help her too? We do play with the ball etc.
@@IvanBalabanov can't wait to dig in. She is my up and coming AKC and CDSP competition obedience dog, so this shyness and uncertaintity are problematic.
When you brought Tina out as demo dog, I will say that legit blew my mind! She is a better trained dog than 98% of the dogs out there. One day I will finally manage to come learn from you in person.
I use a herm sprenger prong and I purchased the 2.5mm … my dogs are GSD and 100 lbs each. I Have good result with this size collar. I would like an opinion on my choice of prong size.
Wow! I know I'm not the only one that seen Tina go from a dog I would not want to a dog I'D LOVE TO HAVE! What an amazing success story...... Can't wait for the movie to come out!
Something I'd like to add on the topic of dogs giving consent. I am by no means an expert, I've been training dogs as more or less a hobby for about 10 years. My philosophy is that dogs do SO much to understand us. Our words, our facial expressions, our body language, our habits, etc. I strive to do as much as i can to understand dogs and respect them and their needs as much as possible while still maintaining the hierarchical relationship that is necessary for a dog living in a humans world. As we know one primary communication tool for dogs is their teeth. Some breeds/individuals are more quick to use it then others. My shepherd mutt never put her teeth on me once in her 14 years of life. My rescue border Collie bit me many times. My current dog is a pure breed GSD, he is very mouthy loves to bite and tug and all that. He is selective about when he wants affection, and i have let him communicate to me that he does not want to be petted or touched by making eye contact with me and licking my hand. I am always respectful of this and i believe it really helps our relationship and builds his trust in me. I can always over ride his desires when necessary, such as for things like nail trimming and getting vet care. He may ask for me to stop and in those moments i have to say "no, you must let me touch you now" and he does very well in those situations. He is in general an exuberant and communicative dog. His body language says it all when it's bath time... He does not enjoy it... But he tolerates it for me because in general i respect him, we love each other, and he had seen through past experience that i don't let harm come to him. Things can easily get out of control with some dogs if you give them too much room to express their discontent with necessary situations. It just creates confusion and stress.
My first dog was very aggressive with handling, he came into the shelter I worked at unable to be handled by staff. I was able to build the relationship with him by fair/clear boundaries on what was acceptable and what was not to get him to the point where I was able to do medical on him. I did end up adopting him because of that relationship. We moved fast with handling and gaining that trust but in a shelter it 100% is more of a "eff your feelings dog we gotta get this done if we can't work you through it quickly, then you're a problem that takes up space" sucks but that's the way it is, fear free and consent is very hard to do in shelters. That was 8yrs ago though and I probably would do something differently but I also know if I did keep letting him opt out of handling he would not have lived for the years I had him.
The muzzle analogy really made sense. Giving treats and making the dog do something is different than making the dog do and after rewarding for following your request 😮
I hadn't done any muzzle training with my 18 m/o shelter Malinois in almost three months, although we have been training hard during this time. Except for sit, Maxine had zero training and zero trust back on March 14 when she came home with me, I had to use positive reinforcement to get her to stick her head in the muzzle as she was very distrustful and then more positive reinforcement to wear it. Fast forward to today, after watching your video, I figured I would revisit the muzzle with her but this time she sat and happily waited to accept the muzzle. I was surprised, I think it was a combination of she now trusted me and all the hard work plus the positive association with the muzzle from three months ago. Thank you so much for your clear concise instruction!
I agree! This was an awesome demonstration. In Dec I rescued an 18mo old GSD who I’m positive is part Malinois and she knew zero, not even housebroken and didn’t know what a ball was. In 3 days she was playing fetch plus releasing the ball. She has been such a joy to train and play with, she has boundless energy so this is done daily and multiple times a day. She looks and acts so much like Kimba. I have never trained the muzzle but am going to get one and do this, I think it’s important, like learning another obedience skill.
@@PARoth2011 Yes! Absolutely do it. It is a good skill for every dog to learn and know. Especially is your dog is ever injured and needs on the spot first aid treatment, it will keep everyone safe. It's also good etiquette to muzzle your dog at the vet.
@@PARoth2011 PS. One last thing is I don't understand how a person can have a dog in their life (any breed, size, etc.) and not work/train that dog, it's completely mind numbing to me. No wonder she landed in the shelter due her human's failure. 😡I'm glad you took a chance on her.
I totally agree with your approach and have been doing this with my malinois for forty years, when there is trust and a good relationship with your dog it is very clear for the dog that there are things that they have to accept. I want to complement you with the sharing of your approach with a dog with ocd. It has been very helpfull for me because I have a young malinois (9 month) that also has ocd. My approach is to give him structure and train his impulse controle and make clear to him that some behaviours are not allowed by me. I have succesfully countered compulsive behaviors like, tail chasing, eating dirt, insect chasing, shadow chasing, light chasing and hunting mice. His latest compulsive behavior is staring in the distance when there is nothing to be seen. I Live in Holland and had to use some tools that are not allowed here but i did it anyway because of the sake of my dog. Thanks Ivan, keep up the good work, you are very inspirational to me!
Fantastic, thank you. I also have a relationship with my GSD built on trust and respect. I also tell him to do things where I can see he really does not like it, but he does it because I asked and he trusts me that I only have his best interests in mind.
I walk my friends’ dog that is very anxious and fearful; and I can do SO much more with him bc it’s not his fault that he has genetic anxiety , but I also am not afraid and he’s amazing regardless. So I can do so much more with him than previously thought. Thanks Ivan.
I hadn't thought about muzzle training as a way to practice this! But you are totally right. There are times when our dogs simply HAVE to do things they don't like. Sometimes these things are even painful. I use the same philosophy for my horses. Horses are prey animals. They get scared A LOT. And there are procedures we need to do with them, like trimming their hooves etc, that are inherently uncomfortable for them because it puts them in a state of vulnerability. But the interesting thing is (and I've seen this countless times), when you gently force them into it; when you communicate to them that they don't have a choice, it's like we build this BOND between the two of us. It's as if by telling my horse he MUST, and having him surrender to me and TRUST, he creates a love for me. It's one of the reasons I love horses so much. Call it design or chance, but the relationship between vulnerable, fearful animal and caring, responsible human is unique. It isn't one-sided. It's so much deeper than that. But there IS a place for the human to make the better decisions. I don't know but I find that wonderful. Personally I think it points to a loving creator, but not everyone will agree with me.
@@IvanBalabanov Thanks for the info. Looking for one that can be worn for longer periods of time, the Baskerville was too restrictive and the hard sides rubbed too much for my girls. Unfortunately, after their heat cycle about a year and half ago, my 2 TRD girls don't get along the best and we haven't been able to find a behavioursit or training in the area that has been able to help. So, in order to walk around our home with any semblance of normalcy we have to muzzle the 2. :( Let me know if you want to take on the challenge of 2 bitchy TRDs haha!😆
Good presentation as usual thankyou. Trust has to be given & tested to prove real trust so they will then trust again whenever you ask them to which strengthens the relationship & helps build compliance.
No laughing from me; I appreciate that you can fumble around and forget how the eye thing works - it’s about the relationship you have. It actually gives hope to just random ppl like myself! Ive had to do similar in ‘figuring out’ how to put certain collars on and such; and my girl she goes with it bc I don’t allow her to do otherwise, but I’m not mean about it. Just ‘meh, this is what we have to do and accept’. I also appreciate it ‘well he/she is not happy about it, but accepts (and wants to accept). Brilliant. 😊
Beautiful! The value is in the bigger picture and the carryover into other areas. You must do as I ask and trust me. The other option is shape the behavior, and then at some point in time when the dog protests you are stuck.
Asking a dog for consent is just using emotionally charged words to influence people's perception of training. It must be understood like you said, sometimes they are going to need to doo things they don't want to.
i think the issue is being that kind of leader - trustworthy and calm - is really difficult for most people, and now that most people have dogs….. lots of dogs without any real leader
@Ivanbalabanov what is the mask you have for Tina? how does it work? what does it do? I also have a shadow chaser, literally any time you turn on a torch or in at night in low light.
I absolutely love how you explain things. And especially that you are not afraid to challenge, with profound logic, the virtue signalling of the FF/100% positive movement. One of my favourite reinforcement trainers has claimed to her fame the "It's yer choice" game, but as much as I love her creativity and expertise in "shaping" dog behaviours, I have often found it quite amusing that the game is literally the EXACT same thing as Cesar Milans "waiting for the dog to become calm and submissive", before it gets what it wants, like food, a toy or permission to pass through a doorway. You have shown in this video the power of TRUST. A word I don't think I have ever heard used in the FF movement. The "balanced" trainer they most often try to destroy (CM), has been trying to explain for decades that his "magic" is based on trust. He gains trust with the most unruly of dogs, by simply being a calm decisive, non-wishy washy leader.
I tried trimming my dogs nails a month ago for the first time, he didnt like it. Had to hold him down and he struggled and tried to escape. I had my girlfriend help me with holding him down, he panicked and redirected a nip onto an arm. Would you say in this case you would have muzzled him and clip the nails anyway? I don't think if I would have done that I would have teached my dog to trust me and comply the next time withouth getting bitten. I used positive reinforcement over a month and although he doesnt love it yet I can now clip his nails. I know in the example above putting on a muzzle is way different then clipping nails, they may hate it but won't bite / redirect onto you instead they will be busy pawing at the muzzle. Telling them no might get them to stop and comply but telling them no while clipping nails may get you bit. (even when they are wearing the muzzle while getting their nails done they can still perform the action of biting which is not something I would like to push upon. What would your response be to your dog if they redirected onto you in that situation and tried to bite you? (either with muzzle or without) I dont think there is an appropiate response to that because in the dogs mind his terms are already violated and his warnings ignored. I get that there are moments where things need to be done in case of medical emergency etc. however clipping nails and muzzle training still seems like the way to go for positive reinforcement, atleast for me.
You are an absolutely outstanding dog trainer, Ivan. And as a long time yoga teacher, all I can comment on is that I notice that you could do with working on your breathing. It would not matter so much for the dogs, but for the presentation. An invitation: Breathe deeply and see what happens.
My seven month old gsd is into agressive play biting the leash which is not letting me walk him properly in peace, can you guys suggest something here? I would be super grateful.
I thought this was perfect for most dogs Tina is coming along really well but I have a question what was the purpose of the goggles or blindfold on her eyes I think you said something about her chasing shadows but I still don’t understand it can you please explain the purpose of the orange goggles thank you
It helped distort her vision enough to be able to create new habits That’s in a nutshell but ain’t as easy … many factors in the behavior modification played important parts. This was just one small one
I love this. I have to be honest, I find shaping the muzzle a bit of a drag -for some dogs it can take weeks before they’re totally comfortable in it for long periods and it’s a very boring thing to train. I’ve just been doing it like that because that’s all I know and have been told. I can see that you are initially keeping the muzzle on your dogs for short periods and then playing with them for a while and I guess the length of time they wear the muzzle will gradually increase? You appear to be only verbally correcting them for trying to get the muzzle off, but say you had a new dog that had to be conditioned to the muzzle this way, but didn’t have that strong relationship with you yet, would you progress to a physical correction if they persisted in trying to remove the muzzle?
So thought provoking, especially the bit pushing back against the "tiger argument" in favour of cooperative care. My question, please: What do you do if owners are nowhere near a decent relationship with their dogs and simply won't (or can't) spend the time and energy needed to build one? I wish every dog would live in a home with Ivan-hearted people, but that's not what I have come to know. Thanks.
I gotta commend the guy that says "wait, I'm doing this wrong...how did I do this?..everyone is gonna laugh.." You could've just cut that out, but I respect leaving it in even more.
I didn't know it was a 'thing' but this is how I taught my dog to ignore sheep ! He knew 'uh-uh !' /'no !' from very early on, before I went on to train him many cool things. Its different to shouting or growling at them - I didn't want him to keep feeling he was getting it wrong - but a simple 'uh-uh' IS shaping, invariably followed by a positive (praise and gratification for stopping whatever it is you've 'uh-uhed' about) . To me it was like playing 'hot' and 'cold' and no biggie, yet so powerful. A friend asked me how I trained my dog to ignore sheep and I explained that even when he gave them side eye, I wud tell him 'uh-uh !' and soon he was completely ignoring them even when off leash, but her dog didn't know 'uh-uh' so she hired a training 'expert' who 'specialised' in livestock chasing and still never got to the off leash confidence I had with my dog. And spent hundreds of pounds ! How the hell do ypu teach them anything without first teaching them 'no' ? Some owners sure make dog training very complicated !
Excellent video and an important message. The only time canine consent makes sense to me is when it comes to who gets to pet my dogs and interact with them. They don't have to meet everyone and tolerate being touched by strangers but medical care, grooming, emergency care, training, etc.; dogs can't consent to things when they can't appreciate the value of what needs to happen. Tina is also a great example. I doubt she consented to all of the training, but it was to her benefit. I also agree on pet ownership (vs guardian or parent)
@@IvanBalabanov - I ask because you have Malinios that seem to value playing over just about everything else. My mixed breed rescue is super into playing but only for short while. Then she wants to go sniffing around to look for squirrels, rabbits, ravens and even fish. She seems to get bored with toys and treats and would prefer to hunt for real
Are people being serious?? World really has went mad!! I even heard an idiot claiming we should as newborns for consent to change their nappy!!! It's driving me angry with the pure stupidity of people these days.
AWESOME video! Thank you so much for sharing all the information here... I would have paid money to watch this! I would also love to hear your thoughts on your closing comment.... "dog ownership, and not guardian-ship." Anything you would like to share would be perfect, and I'll be waiting and watching for it!
What's so dumb about the "asking dogs for consent" ideology with the "force-free" people is that their "asking for consent" is an illusion and a lie. Most of them aren't asking for consent either. Not really. They're just trying to make themselves sound better. If they have a dog that wants to chase squirrels, and they drag the dog on a leash the opposite way from what it wants to do, or even just hold it in place, is that really consent? It would only be real consent if you took the leash off and let the dog choose, including allowing it to chase and kill the squirrel if it wants to. Otherwise "consent" is a lie. They'll usually claim things about how they'll "work a little closer at a time and if the dog reacts badly then you're moving too fast", but if it takes 5 years before the dog finally loses interest in chasing squirrels and can be allowed off a leash, then to me it just sounds like you forced the dog to spend half its life as a prisoner and the other half of its life living in a state of Learned Helplessness rebranded with a new name. I think there's a better way. Teach dogs realistic and fair rules and consequences that opens up more freedom and opportunities for them. If everyone knew how to train dogs like you do, we wouldn't even need leash laws.
I absolutely loved this video, thank you so much. It’s impressive how Tina changed, it’s like she’s a different dog. I would love to hear your views on being a dog owner versus a dog guardian. I have my own views on it but am always keen to hear what others think.
Agh that’s a one sentence question that requires a lot of writing on my part and it will not be productive after all. I do not want to sell a video or my course here so I’m not sure how to go about it 🤦🏻♂️
Well, I have Ivan’s Teaching The Out video and I highly recommend it. I taught my Husky a perfect out without losing motivation. His way of teaching the out actually increases cooperation, whereas I’ve tried other methods and none of them worked and only created conflict.
I feel that the relationship needs to be a solid one before anybody attempting to do what Ivan just did with the muzzle, I think that comes after many many hours of training together and developing the relationship.
I’m Bulgarian so naturally I chose to use Bulgarian commands for the dogs I compete with for no other reason but just because it’s my language. I’m not afraid that someone else knows my commands. With Tina and all other dogs in training is all English unless the client has a different preference
I would like to see you do a video on the everyday welfare of your dogs,i.e feeding and diet from puppies to adult. Also taking care of their needs such as grooming and hygiene etc. All your dog's seem to have very clean white teeth.
Clearly, your dogs love & respect you. Although I'm not a fan of e-collars & chocker collars, it's obvious that you Know the correct way & time to apply them. The potential for abuse by people who Don't know how is the problem (IMHO).Also, the use of these tools on shelter dogs is not only cruel, but not warranted...these dogs, with a past, need time, knowledge, patience & love. Thanks for posting...your dogs are quite beautiful.(I have a 100 lb. GSD , with a past, who is not the best listener, but we're working on it & I love him just the same.
Training with consent does not mean giving your dog complete freedom to do whatever it wants. It just means that you present your dog with two or three choices , each choice having its own consequence. It gives the animal a sense of control and teaches your dog to think. The result is usually a highly motivated dog that wants to work. For example, When I play tug of war with my dog, I sometimes step away from the toy. I want to see if my dog comes towards me to continue the game or if he gives up. I am giving him choice and allowing him to consent to my reaching for the tug and resuming play. By this method of communication, I can gauge his level of drive and interest in playing with me and adjust future consequences accordingly.
I don't mind the word 'dog owner'. Aside people that adopt dogs, people buy dogs. Because we have a certain expectation of what we want to get and we are putting our money on it. Not to say the dog is an 'item', but want it or not, they are our 'tools'. We need and wanted them for a reason. Either to fulfill an emotional need or a work purpose.
She is so beautiful! My own dogs will accept new things, like hats and muzzles on first try with encourangemnt and me being so happy they are doing it for me. A few client dogs ive developed good relationships with also would be willing to try this new thing even though its uncomforatable. However most of my client dogs will fight a muzzle, some with habit of fighting and winning. These make up the majority of the dogs i work with. A slower aproach to the muzzle seems to be the best way for them. A slower aproach also leaves less room for mistakes, or possible a dog who struggles and gets away. I am interested in purchasing some online training with you specifically to build relationship as fas as possible. :P lol.
Ivan, your 1-year-old and Tina are signs of a one-of-a-kind individual. I've had dogs for 40 years and used 1 method (Koehler). I've read and watched different trainers explain how they train dogs but never seen a person that has done so much for the well-being of dogs. Thank you.
thank you, I will keep them coming
You said critical words here , TRUST and COMPLIANCE. Essential in my 50 year experience. There some things things that simply have no room for any form of negotiation. Excellent as always Ivan. Thank you . YAY TINA is doing great. So glad she has you .
Thank you 🥂
Ivan, the more I watch your content, the more I like your approach and methodology. Thank you for sharing your experience and expertise!
Athena's improvement is incredible. Keep fighting the good fight for the balanced dog trainers. You're the goat.
Thank you 💪🏻
What i love about Ivan's training is how much emphasis he puts on building a strong relationship of trust and respect. Without that you wont get very far, and people have to create all knew ways to try and get their dog to comply
thankyou , you get it
Very beautiful dogs! I love your training style as well. It's like you said. "These are things that are non negotiable"! Wonderful message!
thank you
This is so clear that I'm shocked some self proclaimed trainers attack this! Yes I myself have a bond with my 2 year old Mali girl and she knows when I say NO it's NO. She trusts me to guide and educate her. And of course I lay the groundwork and my guidance makes her happy. Gracias Ivan with great explanation and more an awesome demonstration. Keep 'Pushing Amigo. Salutes from Madrid, Spain
Gracias mi amigo!
Love the message that you say 7:27
Love that sentence.
Great video on this subject, Mr. Balabanov. Thank you for continuing to promote what is in the best interests of dogs. There are too many trainers who have a false understanding of dogs that is based on their human emotion and experience. Even humans have to forfeit consent on a daily basis in so many areas. If you have a job, there will be many, many times you will not be asked for consent on one issue or another. If you drive a car, you are following many rules that were made for your safety, and you were not asked to consent to them; you were told to abide by them and you will be corrected or punished if you do not. Not being asked for consent is part of life, whether human or animal.
thank you , we will keep demonstrating
Thank you for putting the practical examples in the video. I was completely lost and not getting the point at all at the beginning. What a beautiful demonstration of trust. I guess the difficult thing is to achieve that kind of relationship, I most certainly hope to get there with my dog.
It's a joy to see Tina like that.
Thank you! at my school for dog trainers "Training Without Conflict" we use many training examples and I teach trainers how to create this kind of relationship
Ivan I had a title that required the use of a muzzle and a dog who had his other titles, was my older trained dog but I decided not too long before the trial to enter him. It took all of a few minutes to work with him on it doing it this very way. Placed it on, told him good, ok and took it off and played. He pawed a couple of times I "eh eh" he looked at me and realized oh we don't do that and that was it. Entered, passed his title with high trial :-) I of course had already built trust and markers and communication (because I had worked with you in seminars years ago and watched your videos :-)) for years but because of those foundations we never had issues with anything. I would just tell him what I liked and didn't and that was ok. My current boy used the same principles to teach to stick his head under my arm so I could restrain him for a shot. Took less then 5 min and there was no struggle. Because we can communicate easily.
many of us needalso thiskind of training. I bumped only in positive reinforcement trainers and I had to arrange by my self, however, my play with my dog was awful and akward, I solved my biggest issue with him which was aggression, crazy jumping, countersurfing, ecc, but It's hard to recall a nice play with him and funny for him🤦
I know where i succeeded but also where i failed, but I wouldn't mind to see it from a different angle
Magnificent- every time you watch Ivan working aka having fun with his dogs - is just pure gold. I soak up every bits of knowledge. Thank you!! 🤩🤗
Thank you. Glad you like it!
This trainer is constantly reinforcing his relationship with this dog. This is an outstanding video.
I just don’t understand what is so terrible about teaching your dog the meaning of “no”! Clarity is always “kind”, and clarity includes knowing what is not wanted and acceptable as much as what is.
I am reading a P+
It is basically a d*ck measuring contest without the d*ck. According to the behaviorist's big words to describe big prey drives, and her big advice is to avoid walking the dog in public for "at least 6 months." Evidently unaccustomed to a genuine dog that has not been bred for show
Any content on work like this with a shelter dog/behavior case is so valuable. Yes to more on owned vs. guardians
Cheers to that
@@IvanBalabanov I've been following Tina's journey every step of the way and am blown away that you got this far without meds. I work with at risk shelter dogs and patiently await anything you have to share about this journey. I've never seen CCD treated without meds and what an important learning opportunity for so many of us. Guardian vs. Owned for consent is certainly of interest as mentioned.
Thank you for speaking with common sense. It is not so difficult to understand that sometimes certain things must happen and must be done. It is all on behalf of the dogs’ well being, not our “emotions” about it.
Cheers to common sense
Id really like to see how the famous positive only youtube trainers would've been able to transform Tina the way you did. I think we are all still waiting for that video. I won't hold my breath.
Zac George and his diarrhea of the mouth.
They can’t.
Thank you so much for doing this Ivan. It's a true pleasure to watch you with your dogs and how you treat dogs.
Thank you means a lot
I'm so grateful for you to have specifically covered the concept of consent because it is being promoted very heavily in sheltering these days...and...to your point, while the intent was probably appropriate originally, how it is being advised and the implementation is often times not in the best interest of the dogs in the context of sheltering.
Don’t get me started 😂
Imagine dogs consent on this one: “hey do you want to spend next long while in a shelter? “ or hey “ do you agree to get spayed or neutered?” Or “do you consent not to go on walks but only take few feet in front of the door for several months until you learn not to pull on your no-pull harness” 🤷🏻♂️
@@IvanBalabanov LOL!!! Those no-pull harnesses are overused. Sadly, Pulling is one of the reasons shelter dogs are returned, potential owners try the dog at the shelter with no-pull harnesses then when they get home the dog pulls like a four in hand draft horse team. It's bait and switch dishonesty and dogs suffer due to bleeding-heart mentalities.
@@IvanBalabanovlol.
This is brilliant and beautiful! Thank you for sharing this with us. This video should have 1 million views. Cheers from 🇨🇦👍
Ivan has good concept with the psychology of a dog and explains it well. With horses it is often referred to as horsemanship. A concept many never understand even though it is stated/explained. Thanks for the video.
Thanks
Love Steve Young for horses. He has such a way about him. I don't own a horse or have any desire to, but can watch his videos, no matter how long they are. Right!?!
excellent video Ivan and what a pleasure to see you work with your amazing dogs tremendous job with Tina by the way.
i couldnt agree with you more on this i train and compete in gundog trials in the uk and aside from the training as you have so very well showed in this video there are things and times when things need or have to be done of wich the dog has no say in it, myself like many others have a fantastic bond with my dogs they trust me i do not betray that bond or trust when i have to do something with or to them it is always in there best interest and i do not have to shape or take little baby steps to achieve these things, as yourself i very varely get any pushback and just a tone alteration in my voice and a simple no surfices the reason i find it so easy is all in the the dogs training and reward system, bond and trust why make things so complicated when things can be so simple.
Fantastic video! I just Love, Love seeing the relationship that you have with your dogs! It makes all the difference in training! What a miracle your training has done in Tina! You have not only saved her life, but you have given her a life!! ❤
Tina's progress is amazing, thank you. I am so luck I had the opportunity to work with her. It made me dig very deep .....
i saw the vid of tina the dog with ocd when you first got her. wow. you not only cured her, but look at her thrive. i have your mini course and would love to know your protocols and methods used. this was a dog with zero focus. truly amazing results.p.s.-i agree, a dog must comply, as it could be a life saving command that saves her from running into traffic etc one day. equally important, as you demonstrate is the phenomenal relationship of love and respect and fun times that you build with your dogs. it's jaw dropping results of how you turned tina around. now her happiness is off the scale, no more being lost in ocd.
I love watching your videos, I have been a pet dog trainer for 40 yrs and I have worked to teach my clients the same things that you talk about in your videos, regarding building a relationship of trust so that compliance comes so much easier. I really love your work and it's great to see Tina with her new mindset!
I am so incredibly in ahhhhh what you've done with Tina. You're fabulous Ivan❤
Great insights and demonstrations, Ivan-thanks for sharing such a valuable lesson.
Thank you !
This is beautiful to see! The love and respect you have for your dogs, but also the love and respect they have for you creates such a bond of trust
This is so cool. I love watching how you do work -> play -> work as you mention in your cornerstone videos. Especially with a new item. Thank you.
You’re paying attention 😉
I really respect your devotion to fostering a real conversation among different trainers of different schools of thought. I've been training for a little over 20 years, and that idea has increased my capacity for learning from all kinds of other trainers.
My take (for whatever that's worth) is this: 5:49
Excellent instruction and it makes perfect sense. Subbed.
Loved this! My youngest fenale, she will let me do anything to her, all necessary husbandry chores like nails and baths for example, putting on/wearing cones, panties, surgical recovery suits, protective booties, examining and treating wounds, etc. She never fights me. My instructor JUST a week ago, introduced me to Chase and Catch, because this same dog struggles to maintain attention, as she seems concerned or worried in new environments and is shy around new people. We noticed a huge improvenent in her attitude and attention in one session!! My instructor advised me to buy Chase and Catch 2.0. I bought the entire Puppy Bundle! Looking forward to applying your training to help her trust me as much in novel environments and with new people, as she does with every day life.
very cool! These games are so important when played correctly. You will love the course too
I’m so glad you wrote this. My rescue dog is shy though so much better with all our training, but it’s not 100%. She’s 2 so not a puppy, I was thinking of getting this but then thought it might only be for puppies, maybe it would help her too? We do play with the ball etc.
@@PARoth2011 My girl I commented about is 3.5, and Chase and Catch helped her attitude and enthusiasm to jump into heel positio in less than one hour.
@@IvanBalabanov can't wait to dig in. She is my up and coming AKC and CDSP competition obedience dog, so this shyness and uncertaintity are problematic.
@@lanakline52 Holy Toledo, in one hour? That’s wonderful to hear it works for older dogs too. I will definitely be getting that!
WOW! this is an incredible content!!
Great presentation and cleanest outs on planet earth with kimba
Awesome 👌
When you brought Tina out as demo dog, I will say that legit blew my mind! She is a better trained dog than 98% of the dogs out there. One day I will finally manage to come learn from you in person.
Great showcase. When your dog trusts you, you should be able to enforce your leadership because you have taught them tolerance and trust
I use a herm sprenger prong and I purchased the 2.5mm … my dogs are GSD and 100 lbs each. I
Have good result with this size collar. I would like an opinion on my choice of prong size.
Wow!
I know I'm not the only one that seen Tina go from a dog I would not want to a dog I'D LOVE TO HAVE!
What an amazing success story......
Can't wait for the movie to come out!
Thank you 🥂
Something I'd like to add on the topic of dogs giving consent. I am by no means an expert, I've been training dogs as more or less a hobby for about 10 years. My philosophy is that dogs do SO much to understand us. Our words, our facial expressions, our body language, our habits, etc. I strive to do as much as i can to understand dogs and respect them and their needs as much as possible while still maintaining the hierarchical relationship that is necessary for a dog living in a humans world.
As we know one primary communication tool for dogs is their teeth. Some breeds/individuals are more quick to use it then others. My shepherd mutt never put her teeth on me once in her 14 years of life. My rescue border Collie bit me many times. My current dog is a pure breed GSD, he is very mouthy loves to bite and tug and all that. He is selective about when he wants affection, and i have let him communicate to me that he does not want to be petted or touched by making eye contact with me and licking my hand. I am always respectful of this and i believe it really helps our relationship and builds his trust in me. I can always over ride his desires when necessary, such as for things like nail trimming and getting vet care. He may ask for me to stop and in those moments i have to say "no, you must let me touch you now" and he does very well in those situations. He is in general an exuberant and communicative dog. His body language says it all when it's bath time... He does not enjoy it... But he tolerates it for me because in general i respect him, we love each other, and he had seen through past experience that i don't let harm come to him. Things can easily get out of control with some dogs if you give them too much room to express their discontent with necessary situations. It just creates confusion and stress.
My first dog was very aggressive with handling, he came into the shelter I worked at unable to be handled by staff. I was able to build the relationship with him by fair/clear boundaries on what was acceptable and what was not to get him to the point where I was able to do medical on him. I did end up adopting him because of that relationship. We moved fast with handling and gaining that trust but in a shelter it 100% is more of a "eff your feelings dog we gotta get this done if we can't work you through it quickly, then you're a problem that takes up space" sucks but that's the way it is, fear free and consent is very hard to do in shelters. That was 8yrs ago though and I probably would do something differently but I also know if I did keep letting him opt out of handling he would not have lived for the years I had him.
Wow I learned so much. I enjoyed so much seeing the closeness and love in the relationship you have with your dogs!
Always nice to see more of Tina ☺️ my God she has energy haha
TINA... TINA.... TINA !!!
Amazing content! Thank you!!
The muzzle analogy really made sense.
Giving treats and making the dog do something is different than making the dog do and after rewarding for following your request 😮
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Thank you for sharing this Ivan. It’s nice to see you working with your dogs!
I hadn't done any muzzle training with my 18 m/o shelter Malinois in almost three months, although we have been training hard during this time. Except for sit, Maxine had zero training and zero trust back on March 14 when she came home with me, I had to use positive reinforcement to get her to stick her head in the muzzle as she was very distrustful and then more positive reinforcement to wear it. Fast forward to today, after watching your video, I figured I would revisit the muzzle with her but this time she sat and happily waited to accept the muzzle. I was surprised, I think it was a combination of she now trusted me and all the hard work plus the positive association with the muzzle from three months ago.
Thank you so much for your clear concise instruction!
I agree! This was an awesome demonstration. In Dec I rescued an 18mo old GSD who I’m positive is part Malinois and she knew zero, not even housebroken and didn’t know what a ball was. In 3 days she was playing fetch plus releasing the ball. She has been such a joy to train and play with, she has boundless energy so this is done daily and multiple times a day. She looks and acts so much like Kimba. I have never trained the muzzle but am going to get one and do this, I think it’s important, like learning another obedience skill.
@@PARoth2011 Yes! Absolutely do it. It is a good skill for every dog to learn and know. Especially is your dog is ever injured and needs on the spot first aid treatment, it will keep everyone safe. It's also good etiquette to muzzle your dog at the vet.
@@PARoth2011 PS. One last thing is I don't understand how a person can have a dog in their life (any breed, size, etc.) and not work/train that dog, it's completely mind numbing to me. No wonder she landed in the shelter due her human's failure. 😡I'm glad you took a chance on her.
@@cherylmillard2067 I didn’t know that is was good etiquette to do that for the vet, thank you for telling me!
I totally agree with your approach and have been doing this with my malinois for forty years, when there is trust and a good relationship with your dog it is very clear for the dog that there are things that they have to accept. I want to complement you with the sharing of your approach with a dog with ocd. It has been very helpfull for me because I have a young malinois (9 month) that also has ocd. My approach is to give him structure and train his impulse controle and make clear to him that some behaviours are not allowed by me. I have succesfully countered compulsive behaviors like, tail chasing, eating dirt, insect chasing, shadow chasing, light chasing and hunting mice. His latest compulsive behavior is staring in the distance when there is nothing to be seen. I Live in Holland and had to use some tools that are not allowed here but i did it anyway because of the sake of my dog. Thanks Ivan, keep up the good work, you are very inspirational to me!
Nice stuff Ivan. Tina is a special one 🎉
clear communication. great information. thank you.
Fantastic, thank you. I also have a relationship with my GSD built on trust and respect. I also tell him to do things where I can see he really does not like it, but he does it because I asked and he trusts me that I only have his best interests in mind.
I walk my friends’ dog that is very anxious and fearful; and I can do SO much more with him bc it’s not his fault that he has genetic anxiety , but I also am not afraid and he’s amazing regardless. So I can do so much more with him than previously thought.
Thanks Ivan.
I hadn't thought about muzzle training as a way to practice this!
But you are totally right. There are times when our dogs simply HAVE to do things they don't like. Sometimes these things are even painful.
I use the same philosophy for my horses.
Horses are prey animals. They get scared A LOT.
And there are procedures we need to do with them, like trimming their hooves etc, that are inherently uncomfortable for them because it puts them in a state of vulnerability.
But the interesting thing is (and I've seen this countless times), when you gently force them into it; when you communicate to them that they don't have a choice, it's like we build this BOND between the two of us.
It's as if by telling my horse he MUST, and having him surrender to me and TRUST, he creates a love for me.
It's one of the reasons I love horses so much. Call it design or chance, but the relationship between vulnerable, fearful animal and caring, responsible human is unique.
It isn't one-sided. It's so much deeper than that. But there IS a place for the human to make the better decisions.
I don't know but I find that wonderful.
Personally I think it points to a loving creator, but not everyone will agree with me.
I really liked that tiger metaphor about shaping
Right?!
What brand muzzle is being used? I have sighthounds and am looking for a low cut muzzle like that. Using a irish padded one currently...
These are sold on Amazon I think they are Italian but not very safe. The Baskerville might be a better choice depending what you need it for
@@IvanBalabanov Thanks for the info. Looking for one that can be worn for longer periods of time, the Baskerville was too restrictive and the hard sides rubbed too much for my girls. Unfortunately, after their heat cycle about a year and half ago, my 2 TRD girls don't get along the best and we haven't been able to find a behavioursit or training in the area that has been able to help. So, in order to walk around our home with any semblance of normalcy we have to muzzle the 2. :( Let me know if you want to take on the challenge of 2 bitchy TRDs haha!😆
the muzzle advice is the best
Thank you
Hi! can i get a link or a name for the eye mask Tina have please? i need to buy some and can't find any online, if Somone know how, Thanks :)
Good presentation as usual thankyou.
Trust has to be given & tested to prove real trust so they will then trust again whenever you ask them to which strengthens the relationship & helps build compliance.
Wise way to explain it: this is how a cooperation between dog and human should look like.
Awesome talk! Totally agree! You have a great dog and she loves and respects you. Bravhund!👍🏾🐾🌺
Thank youp
What brand pants are you wearing with the patches on the knee ivan?
No laughing from me; I appreciate that you can fumble around and forget how the eye thing works - it’s about the relationship you have. It actually gives hope to just random ppl like myself! Ive had to do similar in ‘figuring out’ how to put certain collars on and such; and my girl she goes with it bc I don’t allow her to do otherwise, but I’m not mean about it. Just ‘meh, this is what we have to do and accept’.
I also appreciate it ‘well he/she is not happy about it, but accepts (and wants to accept). Brilliant. 😊
Beautiful 🥰 inspirational 🥰 motivational 🥰 natural 🥰
Beautiful! The value is in the bigger picture and the carryover into other areas. You must do as I ask and trust me. The other option is shape the behavior, and then at some point in time when the dog protests you are stuck.
Asking a dog for consent is just using emotionally charged words to influence people's perception of training. It must be understood like you said, sometimes they are going to need to doo things they don't want to.
i think the issue is being that kind of leader - trustworthy and calm - is really difficult for most people, and now that most people have dogs….. lots of dogs without any real leader
@Ivanbalabanov what is the mask you have for Tina? how does it work? what does it do? I also have a shadow chaser, literally any time you turn on a torch or in at night in low light.
I absolutely love how you explain things. And especially that you are not afraid to challenge, with profound logic, the virtue signalling of the FF/100% positive movement. One of my favourite reinforcement trainers has claimed to her fame the "It's yer choice" game, but as much as I love her creativity and expertise in "shaping" dog behaviours, I have often found it quite amusing that the game is literally the EXACT same thing as Cesar Milans "waiting for the dog to become calm and submissive", before it gets what it wants, like food, a toy or permission to pass through a doorway. You have shown in this video the power of TRUST. A word I don't think I have ever heard used in the FF movement. The "balanced" trainer they most often try to destroy (CM), has been trying to explain for decades that his "magic" is based on trust. He gains trust with the most unruly of dogs, by simply being a calm decisive, non-wishy washy leader.
I tried trimming my dogs nails a month ago for the first time, he didnt like it. Had to hold him down and he struggled and tried to escape. I had my girlfriend help me with holding him down, he panicked and redirected a nip onto an arm. Would you say in this case you would have muzzled him and clip the nails anyway? I don't think if I would have done that I would have teached my dog to trust me and comply the next time withouth getting bitten. I used positive reinforcement over a month and although he doesnt love it yet I can now clip his nails. I know in the example above putting on a muzzle is way different then clipping nails, they may hate it but won't bite / redirect onto you instead they will be busy pawing at the muzzle. Telling them no might get them to stop and comply but telling them no while clipping nails may get you bit. (even when they are wearing the muzzle while getting their nails done they can still perform the action of biting which is not something I would like to push upon. What would your response be to your dog if they redirected onto you in that situation and tried to bite you? (either with muzzle or without) I dont think there is an appropiate response to that because in the dogs mind his terms are already violated and his warnings ignored. I get that there are moments where things need to be done in case of medical emergency etc. however clipping nails and muzzle training still seems like the way to go for positive reinforcement, atleast for me.
You are an absolutely outstanding dog trainer, Ivan. And as a long time yoga teacher, all I can comment on is that I notice that you could do with working on your breathing. It would not matter so much for the dogs, but for the presentation. An invitation: Breathe deeply and see what happens.
My seven month old gsd is into agressive play biting the leash which is not letting me walk him properly in peace, can you guys suggest something here? I would be super grateful.
I’m so happy to see Tina ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I thought this was perfect for most dogs
Tina is coming along really well but I have a question what was the purpose of the goggles or blindfold on her eyes I think you said something about her chasing shadows but I still don’t understand it can you please explain the purpose of the orange goggles thank you
It helped distort her vision enough to be able to create new habits That’s in a nutshell but ain’t as easy … many factors in the behavior modification played important parts. This was just one small one
@@IvanBalabanov i’m just so happy she’s doing so much better and I’d like to thank you very much for figuring out how to do that
I love this. I have to be honest, I find shaping the muzzle a bit of a drag -for some dogs it can take weeks before they’re totally comfortable in it for long periods and it’s a very boring thing to train. I’ve just been doing it like that because that’s all I know and have been told.
I can see that you are initially keeping the muzzle on your dogs for short periods and then playing with them for a while and I guess the length of time they wear the muzzle will gradually increase? You appear to be only verbally correcting them for trying to get the muzzle off, but say you had a new dog that had to be conditioned to the muzzle this way, but didn’t have that strong relationship with you yet, would you progress to a physical correction if they persisted in trying to remove the muzzle?
So thought provoking, especially the bit pushing back against the "tiger argument" in favour of cooperative care. My question, please: What do you do if owners are nowhere near a decent relationship with their dogs and simply won't (or can't) spend the time and energy needed to build one? I wish every dog would live in a home with Ivan-hearted people, but that's not what I have come to know. Thanks.
Hi there master 🤘🏼🐺 Nobody opened my mind like you!
I'd like to know more about teaching small dogs to heel. It is difficult to lure them
I gotta commend the guy that says "wait, I'm doing this wrong...how did I do this?..everyone is gonna laugh.." You could've just cut that out, but I respect leaving it in even more.
Relationship really is everything
I didn't know it was a 'thing' but this is how I taught my dog to ignore sheep ! He knew 'uh-uh !' /'no !' from very early on, before I went on to train him many cool things. Its different to shouting or growling at them - I didn't want him to keep feeling he was getting it wrong - but a simple 'uh-uh' IS shaping, invariably followed by a positive (praise and gratification for stopping whatever it is you've 'uh-uhed' about) . To me it was like playing 'hot' and 'cold' and no biggie, yet so powerful. A friend asked me how I trained my dog to ignore sheep and I explained that even when he gave them side eye, I wud tell him 'uh-uh !' and soon he was completely ignoring them even when off leash, but her dog didn't know 'uh-uh' so she hired a training 'expert' who 'specialised' in livestock chasing and still never got to the off leash confidence I had with my dog. And spent hundreds of pounds ! How the hell do ypu teach them anything without first teaching them 'no' ? Some owners sure make dog training very complicated !
Excellent video and an important message. The only time canine consent makes sense to me is when it comes to who gets to pet my dogs and interact with them. They don't have to meet everyone and tolerate being touched by strangers but medical care, grooming, emergency care, training, etc.; dogs can't consent to things when they can't appreciate the value of what needs to happen. Tina is also a great example. I doubt she consented to all of the training, but it was to her benefit. I also agree on pet ownership (vs guardian or parent)
Do you also work with dogs that don't have so much drive? Or are your training techniques mainly for high drive dogs?
I’m a dog trainer
@@IvanBalabanov - I ask because you have Malinios that seem to value playing over just about everything else. My mixed breed rescue is super into playing but only for short while. Then she wants to go sniffing around to look for squirrels, rabbits, ravens and even fish. She seems to get bored with toys and treats and would prefer to hunt for real
@@yogiyoda that’s training
Are people being serious?? World really has went mad!! I even heard an idiot claiming we should as newborns for consent to change their nappy!!! It's driving me angry with the pure stupidity of people these days.
Love is not always easy... 👏👏👏👏
AWESOME video! Thank you so much for sharing all the information here... I would have paid money to watch this! I would also love to hear your thoughts on your closing comment.... "dog ownership, and not guardian-ship." Anything you would like to share would be perfect, and I'll be waiting and watching for it!
What's so dumb about the "asking dogs for consent" ideology with the "force-free" people is that their "asking for consent" is an illusion and a lie. Most of them aren't asking for consent either. Not really. They're just trying to make themselves sound better.
If they have a dog that wants to chase squirrels, and they drag the dog on a leash the opposite way from what it wants to do, or even just hold it in place, is that really consent? It would only be real consent if you took the leash off and let the dog choose, including allowing it to chase and kill the squirrel if it wants to. Otherwise "consent" is a lie.
They'll usually claim things about how they'll "work a little closer at a time and if the dog reacts badly then you're moving too fast", but if it takes 5 years before the dog finally loses interest in chasing squirrels and can be allowed off a leash, then to me it just sounds like you forced the dog to spend half its life as a prisoner and the other half of its life living in a state of Learned Helplessness rebranded with a new name.
I think there's a better way. Teach dogs realistic and fair rules and consequences that opens up more freedom and opportunities for them. If everyone knew how to train dogs like you do, we wouldn't even need leash laws.
This just makes sense!
Cheers to that
I absolutely loved this video, thank you so much. It’s impressive how Tina changed, it’s like she’s a different dog. I would love to hear your views on being a dog owner versus a dog guardian. I have my own views on it but am always keen to hear what others think.
How do you train the dog to let go of the ball?
Agh that’s a one sentence question that requires a lot of writing on my part and it will not be productive after all. I do not want to sell a video or my course here so I’m not sure how to go about it 🤦🏻♂️
Well, I have Ivan’s Teaching The Out video and I highly recommend it. I taught my Husky a perfect out without losing motivation. His way of teaching the out actually increases cooperation, whereas I’ve tried other methods and none of them worked and only created conflict.
Man, I wish I could afford your program!
It changes everything
@@IvanBalabanov one day
@IvanBalabanov sometimes I want to ask you to make a program only for dog owners 😂
I feel that the relationship needs to be a solid one before anybody attempting to do what Ivan just did with the muzzle, I think that comes after many many hours of training together and developing the relationship.
Can you teach me how to talk dog?
It was really fun listening to commands in Bulgarian, but may I ask, why and when do you use that ones and when the english ones?
I’m Bulgarian so naturally I chose to use Bulgarian commands for the dogs I compete with for no other reason but just because it’s my language. I’m not afraid that someone else knows my commands. With Tina and all other dogs in training is all English unless the client has a different preference
@@IvanBalabanov thank you!
You got a tremendous amount of engagement with Tina, who was suffering so badly when you first filmed her as she was presented to you.
I would like to see you do a video on the everyday welfare of your dogs,i.e feeding and diet from puppies to adult. Also taking care of their needs such as grooming and hygiene etc. All your dog's seem to have very clean white teeth.
Clearly, your dogs love & respect you. Although I'm not a fan of e-collars & chocker collars, it's obvious that you Know the correct way & time to apply them. The potential for abuse by people who Don't know how is the problem (IMHO).Also, the use of these tools on shelter dogs is not only cruel, but not warranted...these dogs, with a past, need time, knowledge, patience & love. Thanks for posting...your dogs are quite beautiful.(I have a 100 lb. GSD , with a past, who is not the best listener, but we're working on it & I love him just the same.
Training with consent does not mean giving your dog complete freedom to do whatever it wants. It just means that you present your dog with two or three choices , each choice having its own consequence. It gives the animal a sense of control and teaches your dog to think. The result is usually a highly motivated dog that wants to work. For example, When I play tug of war with my dog, I sometimes step away from the toy. I want to see if my dog comes towards me to continue the game or if he gives up. I am giving him choice and allowing him to consent to my reaching for the tug and resuming play. By this method of communication, I can gauge his level of drive and interest in playing with me and adjust future consequences accordingly.
Firm is kind.
Them offloading their decision-making to you seems to be the best anti-anxiety med around.
I didn't need a professional trainer to tell me that asking my dog for consent was a bad idea. I thought that was common sense
I don't mind the word 'dog owner'. Aside people that adopt dogs, people buy dogs. Because we have a certain expectation of what we want to get and we are putting our money on it. Not to say the dog is an 'item', but want it or not, they are our 'tools'. We need and wanted them for a reason.
Either to fulfill an emotional need or a work purpose.
She is so beautiful! My own dogs will accept new things, like hats and muzzles on first try with encourangemnt and me being so happy they are doing it for me. A few client dogs ive developed good relationships with also would be willing to try this new thing even though its uncomforatable. However most of my client dogs will fight a muzzle, some with habit of fighting and winning. These make up the majority of the dogs i work with. A slower aproach to the muzzle seems to be the best way for them. A slower aproach also leaves less room for mistakes, or possible a dog who struggles and gets away. I am interested in purchasing some online training with you specifically to build relationship as fas as possible. :P lol.
Ask for consent? Say whaaat? Woof woof!
Perfect "Pusti!" aka "Пусти!"