MARTIN OLOO: Kenya Has Gone Back To The Green Pen Of Moi Era & Its Going To Messy
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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Thank you Spice team for residing in our homes every morning, keeping us glued to our screens! I would love a repeat of the Jimi Wanjigi conversation on the country's current debt situation . Merry Christmas!
Dr. Martin Oloo is not informed about visa policies. Anyone who wants to comment about this policy needs to read about African Development Bank Visa Openess Report which is published every year. This fear mongering about influx is unfounded. We currently travel to Uganda and Rwanda using our ID's and we still go through security checks at the borders. Passport holders get stamped in and out. We don't have to comment about everything just for the sake. I rarely agree with Ruto's policies but on this one he is spot on. Any challenges that will arise can be tackeled with time. We need Free Movement to allow AfCFTA to grow, come on people!!!!
So you read an article and you are now an authority 😮 there is reciprocity we can go to other E.A countries and they can come to us but with this no visa policies for everyone has no recipricity
@@mataamaina3800 I am an authority because it is an annual report we produce to boost trade in Africa. I don't just read it, I contribute to its publication. Reciprocity has not worked since the founding of OAU and is one of the indicators we use in the report. Africans are not trading enough because of this selfishness and someone has to make a unilateral decision as others catch up. The issue he raised was about security and lose of control about who will enter Kenya. This is common sense nobody should struggle with.
I travelled to Ghana without Visa, but am not allowed to work there without work permit or run business without meeting the prerequisite requirements
I was thinking about this. The good thing about Rwanda is that there's law and order. A govt official there told me that he's never heard of a single case of corruption. You dare do something that they're against, you're in trouble before you know it. They have systems in place, cops/army everywhere. I get concerned that bad things could really fester due to corruption here. I'm not against AfCFTA and all that. We think that South Africans are "different" and "bad", without getting to understand how they would get as far as killing people. My opinion of the president after observing his career over 30 years is that he can be really short-sighted. That's not saying he's not done good things. But I can't resign to assuming that his decisions are very well thought out and I can relax.
@@panafrican.nation the President's decision is part of the African Free Movement Protocol that ought to have been fast-tracked before AfCFTA. AfCFTA is struggling because you cannot say you want to trade, then I reach your borders and you deny entry of my goods because my driver's passport will expire in five months, and he couldn't process it because the other country also delayed his journey. This is not something out of the blue. It is currently working in the EU, in Mexico and certain cities in China allow visitors limited duration of free visa entry as long as you have a valid airticket. This makes travelling easier for Business tourists. These skepticisms are what have contributed to Africans staying divided. We shout about United States of Africa, and when someone takes a step, we are whining instead of supporting progress. What an irony!
Visa and trade Barriers are two different things. What we need is removal of trade barriers not visas.
Exactly
I truly agree with you
How does your foolish mind separate the two! They are correlated and intertwined. Look at it like this, if you deny a person or an investor a visa how on earth will he trade with us, how will he interact with locals and build new networks for business! Your hatred for President Ruto is making you people sound stupid, if it was Raila doing it you will be praising it saying that we are demolishing the colonial boundaries set on us! Bure nyinyi!
Visa is a form of trade barrier.
You are right. But my perspective is China is not Visa free but the amount of trade with China is by far grater than with South Africa or Ghana which are visa free.
Dear spice crew, please allow your visitor to enlighten us without interrupting and trying to be seen as if you are defending the government!
Definitely it's not polite let the guest finish his points quite annoying
Not defending but showing the guest is just some useless lawyer full of assumptions
Ati daktari omg dr ushuuzi
This guy can sacrifice Kenyans for foreigners to get their land 😢😢😢😢😢😢soo sad
Especially Lattif. Mr. Kenya Kwanza himself
The best conversation was the one you put Hon Jimmy wanjigi on the hot seat to tell us on the state of debt in our country.That guy is a true Patriot
You only like your tribesmen✔️
Stop playing with us❕
JW is a patriot indeed,a great a leader
Hello Spice Team I would love a repeat of the Jimmy Wanjigi conversation on the country's current debt situation. It was a very nice conversation
@ 3399 repeating what?? We are not in school paka wewe.
This guy is quite knowledgeable. I find his dissection of matters governance quite enlightening. Kindly bring him back or replay his conversations
Give us several replays of Jimmy Wanjingi's moments in the situation room
Hello spice FM glad I bumped into you people. The conversation I enjoyed most was the one with Jimmy wanjigi where he said the sovereign must feel the pain. His interviews are so entertaining, informative and accurate, so incisive and visionary
am unable to narrow to one guest but i have 4 favourites; a)hon. david manduku b)hon. omkiya omtata c)proffessor ngure d)jimi wanjigi
The greatest
Please replay Senator Okiya Omutata's discussion on public debt and Herman Manyora's discussion on governance🎉
I have no problem with Kenya being Visa free to other African Countries, to the Globe however is a bit too stretched, what happens to the lost income from Visa fees, considering how the government is already straining its citizens?
Yeah, misplaced priorities or ineptitude.
They have not thought about that, and secondly they believe it is "wanjiku's" duty to supply all the money they need for stealing and wasting.
Read about it. Everyone is paying 30$ on entry. Even the ones who were visa exempted
Just read....the govt will reap more!!
And alot more in economies of scale from tourism
Alshabab are probably rejoicing because they will have it easy to carry out their businesses!!!
There many outstanding conversations you've held but to my opinion, i can mention 3
1.Elisha Ongoya (Lawyer)
2.JIMMY WANJIGI.
3. William Kabogo.
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Let the truth be told Kenyans suffered in a big way during Moi, today we are experiencing the same from the government of Zakayoh.
I am grateful to this team of three great people. Thank you for making 2023 a pleasant ride. Thank You.
Open borders on can be dangerous if government has no proper policy laid down in place. Watching from Houston Texas.
Wanjigi aka Mr Odious Debt killed it
Bonoko politicians 😂
@@bryanotieno7106 bonoko with FACTS!
Am worried 5yrs will end while we r just talking n nothing happens
Ruto
Mdomo kaya
Guys you would be the best💯 interviewers for Zakayo
Eric please don't interrupt for the sake! Sovereignty is understood! As head of your family, you can't stand and pronounce this is an open family without consulting wife and children!
Kindly replay the conversation with William Kabogo.
Bring back Farah Maalim any day.
Conversation with caleb was candid and very insightful
The conversion between Jimmy wanjigi on the kenyan debt
Everything that can go wrong has gone wrong in the last 1 year under Ruto's regime.
History will be very unkind to that man.
You can replay Wanjigi's dossier on fictitious debt anytime and it will still resonate with the reality.. You can consider bringing him back too..
Progress:forward or onward movement towards a destination." By definition progress cannot be moving backwards
The conversation with Okiya Omtata ought to be replayed
I don't think there is a day I can say I have missed the talk on this channel.. and if there is I have always gone back to check and listen again
Please bring Daktari back.hes very knowledgeable
U run a lot of important and timely debates / discussions though haven't followed very many of them, among the greatest have liked replayed the gentlemen/ lawyer for Governor Mwangaza kawira (constitutional lecturer from Kakamega)
Dear Eric, How can you say you will pull down a fence because you don't have a list of attackers whom the fence kept away?
Yeah, that was a silly comment/question to ask - not well thought through.
İs visa free provision related to our current debt situation?İs it part of the lending condition?
Gas prices have been going down in the global market, media in Kenya needs to do a good job of highlighting that…
Replay Wanjigi's exposee on "National" debt
Visa free doesn’t mean open borders. It means you don’t pay for it. It doesn’t mean removing the screening process. Any African with a passport can now travel to Rwanda without paying for a visa.
What constitutes public participation? I have not seen anyone in my village asking my folks to participate in anything govt?
Exchange rates is manipulation by CBK. The real exchange rates is 1$= 3000kshs. Kenya iko already defaulted on debt.
The conversation with Hon. Sam George, MP Ningo Pram pram, Ghana
Here in Zambia we go to our neighbors without visas and there is no problem I have a problem with the learned colleague
That daughter of Oneko impressed me thoroughly. She is definitely CS material.
What is her name????
I would love to listen to Prof PLO again bring him back.
We can't remove visas when no other country is reciprocating the same. This would only make sense if all countries removed their visa requirements as well.
Speaking of the constitution, remember he campaigned fervently against it before the referendum in 2010.
We only want free visa for Africans across the world but not everyone? Non-Africans should apply and pay for visas just like we kenyans and Africans get visa restrictions outside Africa . There is no way we can make it easy for non-africans to get our kenyan visas while they make it very difficult and expensive for us kenyans and or africans to get non-african visas
That’s true how can we have anybody walk in and out I think there is no one country on this planet where its visa free.
From a personal level, Kenyans traveling on foreign passports should have to need visas to visit the country of their birth. I went through hell 7 months ago trying to get a visa to my homeland and the only way I was able to get it was through corruption. I was forced to give a bribe of 40, 000 schillings. I came to Kenya and did the paperwork to regain my Kenyan citizenship and up today, I haven’t heard anything. I finally decided being Kenyan is too painful and I will remain American. Besides, I can travel to most places in this world with an American passport than I would with the Kenyan one without needing a visa. That country is a shithole pit.
Wanjigis session was good replay both
Also replay other discussions wither Oloo on governance
Govt should own all land. CORRUPTION!
CT which is the source of your proverbs?
Kenyans amaze me..When they elect a president who is very soft and smiles to everything presented to them ..they have an issue with that and say "They need a firm ruthless leader" Listen to Atwoli advising Uhuru to emulate the father and Moi....Listen to the same guy during the Kibaki era say how Kibaki is weak and he should copy some things from Moi...Now they have Ruto, the same guy who complains how he is like Moi...Indeed, Ruto might not be the best president but the truth is some people can never see anything good in someone or somebody no matter what you do or give them...FACT!
You give Visas to non Kenyans without question, but, you make Kenyans abroad who have acquired citizenship elsewhere to reapply for their Kenyan citizenship. The constitution states your are a Kenyan citizen if your were born in Kenya period. Why is the govt making Kenyans reapply for Kenyan citizenship?
This issue bas its roots in the old constitutional set up. The old constitution did not allow dual citizenship. So under the old constitution, if a Kenyan acquired foreign citizenship, you were deemed to have transferred your loyalty to the foreign country and lost Kenyan citizenship.
The new Constitution recognized that challenge and took into account that several Kenyans acquired foreign citizenship at a time Moi's repressive regime was driving Kenyans into exile. And the new Constitution gas a clause requiring Kenyans who "lost" Kenya's citizenship to re-apply.
Maybe he may not know who was not allowed but definitely visa doesn't make it easy for a criminal to get in or chose kenya as a base of operation because of passing visa application
Free visas will make Nigerians and Al- sabaab a safe haven for their game!!!!! Was the issue of security and cyber crime well thought out??..
I wonder why ppl compare Ruto with Moi, is it the tribe? Is it that they are age mates and share some similarities? What is that which was in Moi era and wasn’t in other regimes?…. I fail to understand
You can't understand. Ruto is dictator. He want to do everything against our constitution. Since you didn't experience the time of Moi listen to be told with your elders who were there during moi's. Moi lead for 24 yrs but he does nothing to his place bado watu wanalia njaa in baringo
Corruption and nepotism 100% more than other three leaders which Ruto and moisture have the same similarities
Truth is in Moi s regime there was no much curruption and nepotism as compared to Kibaki s and Uhuru's regime. Ruto has has just surpassed them all.
@@NdovuNetherlandsokay, this is what I expect from any opposition, but I am actually looking for an answer from a sober viewer, not carried by emotions of politics. Do you want to tell me that corruption during Kibaki and Uhuru time was 0%? .
Infact the feel and expirience of tribalism was felt in Kibaki era..terrible!
Thats a silly question....how can he know who was denied to come in? He does not work for Kenyan enbassies or immigration department.
The conversation with Jimmy Wanjigi.
Oh my Eric! Boy don't you try to help Ruto. Ruto is bringing Kenya down. Accept and move on.
Sometimes Latif worries me.
I think you people just invited the wrong person to discuss this matter.
We have countries like Dubai where you apply visa online and just like that and you can visit
Hon.Kabogo interview on the state of a nation.😊
The best conversation was with jimmy wanjigi.
The seat never got this hot 🔥 😅
Tx give our people food and they will talk all at the same time no light go on and on ruto speachs just rhbbish my own words sad Kenya cry my beloved country 🧐😳🤷♂️😭🤔🙏🇰🇪
Replay Sam George conversation with Sam George MP Ghana.
Jimmy Wanjigi was by far the best!
Sucker punches!
On the visa issue, Dr. Martin Oloo's perspective is outdated. Requirements for visas discourage tourism, trade and foreign investment. Kenya has adequate laws to deter criminals from coming into the country if these laws are implemented.
Jimmy Wanjigi conversation
It sad for Kenya, but it is good for those who did not see Moism1 to get a taste of it, with Moism2
Bwana Eric Latiff, much respect, lakini leo ulionyesha kichwa ngumu!😂 "Sovereignty " is a highly critical and non-negotiable issue - or ALL else is null and void!!!
Eric, umezoea living among people of great poverty and lack of resources. The outside world is brimming with wealth and resources and it is only our "walls" that have kept them from swooping in to take advantage of our weakness, lack of resources and non-comoetitiveness!
KE is a neo-colonial jurisdiction being dictated to by the Powers outside. They have designs on KE that are completely by-passing the Kenyan electorate and citizenry. Thus, loss of sovereignty.
at 14:38 this guy asks, if your account had a username and a password, and no one else tried to access it then, or was caught trying to gain access, why then would people start accessing your account because you have removed the username and password? My answer, that Maasai dude fails us sometime with his shallow analogies and reasoning...sorry for the choice of words.
Please reshow KENYA IS IN ICU 😅
someone please tell erick lattif to use common sense.let him answer why europe and USA are strict on visas
The state of education in kenya and cbc
The official residence of the Mayor was demolished
Eric is behaving like a slow student😮😮
a repeat on Jimmy Wanjigi
Jimmy wanjigi all day everyday
Eric is in a hurry to quash valid issues 😢
The same Oloo who campaigned for Kenya Kwisha?
And we still talk of Africa unity,
Single currency, passport, no boarders with such guest?..
Prof.PLO would have been good and better
Martin Oloo ni Moja wa watu wanaamini katika ukabila.Elimu ya uanadheria haimusaidii,inamusaidia kuendeleza ukabila,anamini kitu chochote kiwekizuri lazima kiletwe au kufanywe na mjaluo mwenzake.
Definitely have to combine the Wanjigi expose' and replay...you have to!
Jimi Wanjigi
do the African proverbs also count. i.e - He who tells the truth will never marry
@Jimmy Wanjigi's 60+ yrs debt....
I wonder why Eric was perplexed by the visa vs sovereignty issue, unless he was playing the devils advocate!!
Negativity peddlers everywhere
Do you remember Kanda Bongoman when he mistreated a member of his entourage his visa was cancelled
It will not be a free for all. There will still be a pre-travel electronic authorization and I read somewhere that there will be a fee of around Shs 5,000/-. Any foreigner who engages in misconduct while in the country can still have the authorization cancelled and be deported.
New political style in Kenya of invoking mois name to instill fear and all manners evil things that perceived happened then. The owners of this chorus don't realize that we were there and are still here. Most of these fellows and politicians served deligently moi government. Let them stop propaganda and HATRED.
Bwana Latif wacha jokes!... Visa is a check/ control measure you cannot ask daktari to give you which crook has been denied a visa ...
Sometimes i dont get Eric latiff and his arguments on everything the visa issue the land issue etc
Because you don't pay attention. Cite what you disagree with and give your argument how to make it better. Commenting just for the sake of it without adding value makes you a noise maker.
I dont see the need to spend time typing paragraphs to make a point im paid for my opinions i dont just make them for the sake of it
@@mataamaina3800 just because you are paid for them doesn't give you a right to dismiss other people's opinions. Keep that in mind.
Did you read properly what i said or you are being argumentative for no reason i said sometimes i dont get his arguments …. You are sweating running to take panadol for another persons headache
@@mataamaina3800 I'm here to reduce illiteracy from comments like yours. What value has you "sometimes" added to this discussion. If you can't follow, listen and move on. As long as you comment we will educate you so that helpful opinions prevail. None of your comments in this video has addressed the issues other than attacking individuals who make their opinions. Address the issues that impact on the nation. This is not a gossiping platform for valueless comments.
latif why do you always have issues with Kibaki?
Mr. Wanjigi
CT, this mbuzi was only for your guests not your followers 😂😂😂😂😂🤔🤔🤔
Wanjigis vs odious debt
Wanjigi
This guy speaks the same language as mutahi ngugi and Herman Magora before the just ended elections
Repeat,,,,,,,ALL JIMI WANJIGI SHOWS