I was just looking for an active speaker for my ampless pedalboard for studio use and small live situations. I use Tonex and preamp+cab M interchangeably. From what I have heard, the QSC CP8 seems to be the most balanced solution. I find it strange that someone seems to prefer the Yamaha, which is still a great speaker.The guitar definitely comes out better from the CP8, the sound is more in your face. The Yamaha places less emphasis on the medium frequencies and anyone who is a guitarist knows that if certain frequencies are not emphasized, the guitar gets lost a bit in the mix. Thanks for this content.
This was quite helpful, definitely reinforcing my decision to go DXR10. I tried a cheaper Yorkville which was a bust and now use a headrush but this seems like a big upgrade.
Dont look only for Sound Quality. The Most Important thing is Feedback Resistance on Stage. The Best sounding Monitor ist nothing Worth if you have a lot Feedback Noise issues on a live Act
First, thanks for the video. I have actually the headrush frfr-108, a quad cortex and a 7 string in drop A, and play metal style. I’m sure I can get better speaker than HR-108, but CP8 or CP12? (Only playing home, and sometimes I connect an E-drum also)
Honestly, I don't know. I would assume that CP-12 would give you more thump and low end but for the purpose I would probably go with the smaller one although it has quite some midrange (and is this what a metal player wants?). Good luck choosing the right one :-)
Yamaha DXR10 has an open transparent sound, bright like a guitar amp, the QSC CP8 has a very warm, deep and appealing sound. FM 10 fair but with little highs, Box Pro mostly just midrange no Thanks.
I have the Headrush 108 right now, and I'm actually considering switching to another speaker to use with my Helix/Fractal FM9. The Headrush is pretty boomy on the floor for home use. It seems to need EQing to dial out the bass too. Any experience with it and do you think the QSC CP8 would be a big improvement over it? I'm considering the DXR10 too, but the difference in price is pretty big. It would be for home use at low levels and also for practicing with a band.
Unfortunately, I can't speak for the Headrush 108 because I never had the chance to try it. But as I also describe in the video the DXR10 is too boomy and too midscooped compared to the more midrangey CP8. I find this a better match in a band setting. The CP8 still has plenty of low end but of course there will be a difference between an 8" and a 10" speaker - the 10 appear to have a fuller low end (at least the ones I have tried). Check this: www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/headrush-frfr-108-vs-yamaha-dxr-10.2072742/ This guy is known to know about stuff in the Kemper-forums so maybe this will help you a bit further
@@mosola2 Its the series up from the CPs, but I compared the QSC K10.2s to the Yamaha DXR10s (old model) in store, and my results ended up mirroring yours. The QSC K10.2 was way better and I'm loving the one I have right now. The Yamaha had a weird "hi-fi" sound while I thought the QSC's had a more natural sound.
... enjoyed listening to the comparisons and your playing. Would these work for playing back (and playing with) a backing track (guitar, bass, drums) at moderate volumes in a small garage (700 sf) where I can make some noise? Preferred choice? and also ... how 'bout some more content on your channel?
Thank you, Will Go :-) Happy that you liked it. Yes, the CP8 certainly will be a great choice in your situation (but actually most monitors will, I think). What about a pair of studio monitors instead? That could also be a good solution. Choices, choices... and it's not easy :-) But I don't think you will go wrong with either solution. More content? Hmm, yeah, but I'll have to find out what :-) Any ideas?
@@mosola2 More content: your playing/style reminds me of mine (and what I like). So any expansion of what you're doing here would be fantastic. Good rocking, cleanish tone, uncomplicated but still interesting, well played ... I'm in
I really need some help! I have a 3 piece rock band and I'm looking for the cheapest PA for vocal. What are the Watts/dBs I should be looking at? I really just want to plug my mic and sing to it so it can be heard over the instruments. For rehearsals purposes. Thank you!
Hello. What is your opinion about DB FLEXSYS for guitar monitors in live?. Good sound?. Good power to ear it in live?. What do you think the best monitors to guitar quality-price?. THANKS
Since I made the video I've actually tried the DB FMX10 and testet it against my QSC CP8. Just as the DB FM10 in the video, the FMX10 has a nice clear and transparent sound to it but to me it's just too sterile and bright (for others it might be what they're looking for). The FM10 has less power than the FMX10 and on stage it could potentially come short. With FMX10 there should be plenty of headroom. Best guitarmonitor for the price? Good question and I really don't know the answer...
IF the purpose is purely home use, I'd go with the studio monitors. Personally, I find the CP8 excels at medium to high volume (rehearsals) but it could be too much for home (as it is in my situation). But YMMV
Unfortunately not, so I can't speak about that one. Once I had an Alto TS 112 and it was way too boxy. I think I've read somewhere that it is similar to the Headrush but you might want to read up on it yourself. I could be wrong!
@@mosola2 I left a comment a little while ago, writing that, upon hearing this comparison, I found it strange that more than one person said they preferred the Yamaha. I'm also looking for a similar speaker and I really think I'll buy the QSC cp8. However, as regards the Headrush, I read that in the end it is a rebranded Alto for all intents and purposes. Therefore I don't think it would have been right for you 😂
I have the S1, it doesn’t sound good in my opinion. I tried using it as a keyboard monitor too and it just doesn’t work. Sounds great on acoustic and vocals though.
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I was just looking for an active speaker for my ampless pedalboard for studio use and small live situations. I use Tonex and preamp+cab M interchangeably. From what I have heard, the QSC CP8 seems to be the most balanced solution. I find it strange that someone seems to prefer the Yamaha, which is still a great speaker.The guitar definitely comes out better from the CP8, the sound is more in your face. The Yamaha places less emphasis on the medium frequencies and anyone who is a guitarist knows that if certain frequencies are not emphasized, the guitar gets lost a bit in the mix. Thanks for this content.
Cp8 sounds best. I play a Kemper and have been looking for a stereo pair. This video has helped me make the choice.
This was quite helpful, definitely reinforcing my decision to go DXR10. I tried a cheaper Yorkville which was a bust and now use a headrush but this seems like a big upgrade.
I'm glad you found the video useful. Good luck and happy playing
thanks !!! this is the comparison that I needed
Glad to hear that you find it useful :-)
Yamaha tem um som claro, bem definido e mais natural! Sem dúvidas, agrada muito meus ouvidos.
Dont look only for Sound Quality. The Most Important thing is Feedback Resistance on Stage. The Best sounding Monitor ist nothing Worth if you have a lot Feedback Noise issues on a live Act
Yamaha!
First, thanks for the video.
I have actually the headrush frfr-108, a quad cortex and a 7 string in drop A, and play metal style. I’m sure I can get better speaker than HR-108, but CP8 or CP12? (Only playing home, and sometimes I connect an E-drum also)
Honestly, I don't know. I would assume that CP-12 would give you more thump and low end but for the purpose I would probably go with the smaller one although it has quite some midrange (and is this what a metal player wants?). Good luck choosing the right one :-)
Yamaha DXR10 has an open transparent sound, bright like a guitar amp, the QSC CP8 has a very warm, deep and appealing sound. FM 10 fair but with little highs, Box Pro mostly just midrange no Thanks.
OMG finally a video where the dude isn't talking for the first 37 minutes and then actually playing for the last 2 minutes lol 😅😅😅🎉🎉🎉
I have the Headrush 108 right now, and I'm actually considering switching to another speaker to use with my Helix/Fractal FM9. The Headrush is pretty boomy on the floor for home use. It seems to need EQing to dial out the bass too. Any experience with it and do you think the QSC CP8 would be a big improvement over it? I'm considering the DXR10 too, but the difference in price is pretty big. It would be for home use at low levels and also for practicing with a band.
Unfortunately, I can't speak for the Headrush 108 because I never had the chance to try it. But as I also describe in the video the DXR10 is too boomy and too midscooped compared to the more midrangey CP8. I find this a better match in a band setting.
The CP8 still has plenty of low end but of course there will be a difference between an 8" and a 10" speaker - the 10 appear to have a fuller low end (at least the ones I have tried). Check this: www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/headrush-frfr-108-vs-yamaha-dxr-10.2072742/ This guy is known to know about stuff in the Kemper-forums so maybe this will help you a bit further
@@mosola2 Its the series up from the CPs, but I compared the QSC K10.2s to the Yamaha DXR10s (old model) in store, and my results ended up mirroring yours. The QSC K10.2 was way better and I'm loving the one I have right now. The Yamaha had a weird "hi-fi" sound while I thought the QSC's had a more natural sound.
Yamaha.!!
... enjoyed listening to the comparisons and your playing. Would these work for playing back (and playing with) a backing track (guitar, bass, drums) at moderate volumes in a small garage (700 sf) where I can make some noise? Preferred choice? and also ... how 'bout some more content on your channel?
Thank you, Will Go :-) Happy that you liked it. Yes, the CP8 certainly will be a great choice in your situation (but actually most monitors will, I think). What about a pair of studio monitors instead? That could also be a good solution. Choices, choices... and it's not easy :-) But I don't think you will go wrong with either solution.
More content? Hmm, yeah, but I'll have to find out what :-) Any ideas?
@@mosola2
More content: your playing/style reminds me of mine (and what I like). So any expansion of what you're doing here would be fantastic. Good rocking, cleanish tone, uncomplicated but still interesting, well played ... I'm in
The box = The best , cheap and better build than more expensive brand made.
I really need some help! I have a 3 piece rock band and I'm looking for the cheapest PA for vocal. What are the Watts/dBs I should be looking at? I really just want to plug my mic and sing to it so it can be heard over the instruments. For rehearsals purposes. Thank you!
Sorry, Jorge, but I don't know much about PAs for vocals. But look at the SPL and aim for 123-125. Then you should be all right (I think)
@@mosola2 Thank you so much!
Hello. What is your opinion about DB FLEXSYS for guitar monitors in live?. Good sound?. Good power to ear it in live?. What do you think the best monitors to guitar quality-price?. THANKS
Since I made the video I've actually tried the DB FMX10 and testet it against my QSC CP8. Just as the DB FM10 in the video, the FMX10 has a nice clear and transparent sound to it but to me it's just too sterile and bright (for others it might be what they're looking for). The FM10 has less power than the FMX10 and on stage it could potentially come short. With FMX10 there should be plenty of headroom.
Best guitarmonitor for the price? Good question and I really don't know the answer...
Do you think this is good to use as a frfr speaker for home use? Or would it be better to get 2 studio monitors like the Adam Audio T5V?
IF the purpose is purely home use, I'd go with the studio monitors. Personally, I find the CP8 excels at medium to high volume (rehearsals) but it could be too much for home (as it is in my situation). But YMMV
What one do you like the best? I think I could go with the FM10 or DXR10
Have a look at the end of the video :-) To make it short: CP8 was the right one for me
@@mosola2 good to hear, have you tried the headrush FRFR108?
Unfortunately not, so I can't speak about that one. Once I had an Alto TS 112 and it was way too boxy. I think I've read somewhere that it is similar to the Headrush but you might want to read up on it yourself. I could be wrong!
@@mosola2 I left a comment a little while ago, writing that, upon hearing this comparison, I found it strange that more than one person said they preferred the Yamaha. I'm also looking for a similar speaker and I really think I'll buy the QSC cp8. However, as regards the Headrush, I read that in the end it is a rebranded Alto for all intents and purposes. Therefore I don't think it would have been right for you 😂
YAMAHA 🙂👍
This was a good idea, pity you didnt have a decent mic.
The sound I hear is from my headphone
Yamaha is best
Hi, just curious how would the Bose S1 pro do in these situations
I hope someone else will chime in because I haven't tried the S1...
I need to know for making purchase
@@RsqSqr, I can't help you, unfortunately. I don't know the S1.
No comparison. You would need 4 S1Pro's to come close to the QSC CP8's 124 max dB. ua-cam.com/video/0g4m47BzROE/v-deo.html
I have the S1, it doesn’t sound good in my opinion. I tried using it as a keyboard monitor too and it just doesn’t work. Sounds great on acoustic and vocals though.
What was the conclusion on this?
8:08 :D