Bagged Garden Soil Explained to Save You Money: Let's Look at ASTERISKS, Ingredients & Claims
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- Another look at bagged garden products. I take a look at 4 bags of 'Garden Soil' from one company and walk you through understanding the products. Garden soil is the term for a category of soil that is to be used in garden beds and not containers. Prices vary a lot on bagged products but the core ingredients remain the same with a dash of fertilizers or bit more peat moss. I just want you to know what you are spending your money on.
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you fail miracle grow is automatic FAILURE just maga shit
I mixed my own last year with old compost (don't know how old it was), because of covid, had the best flowers and veg I've ever had, shows what you can do with a little effort
There ya go. Nice mix
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Just mix your own! A bag of Peat Moss, several bags of Scott Top Soil, and big bag of Perlite ... good to go. Then I just add various amendments like Green Sand, Azomite, blood meal, and bone meal. Then I feed granulated Calcium Nitrate and a small amount of Epsom Salt for Magnesium and for washing out the salts every so often. People waste sooooo much more money on these bagged mixes.
I am with you. Been doing that for years
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He has several vids with soil recipes exactly like youre talking about.
Add crab meal too, the chitin in the shells stimulates microbial activity.
The money you spend on all the fertilizers has to be high. Too much things to think about, I plant in compost, add two inches every year, mulch and throw in some all purpose here and there and stop mid summer, and I get great harvests. I think all the marketing they fed us make us believe we always need more and more stuff. A fertilizer for different types of plant, a product for every type of pest we all meet one day or another, it just never ends! I did the same the first few years, then I got tired of all the different products I had to deal with. So so simple now, and I get the same results!
@@mphil66 I was looking at fertilizers and they had fertilizer for everything you can think of, but when you look at the ratios and ingredients they are pretty much all the same.
Thanks for bringing common sense and questioning what you are exactly buying to the forefront. I really appreciate your videos and have learned so much! Happy growing!
Gary, as a new gardener since COVID I seriously feel so stupid right now. I totally got sucked into this.This is why I depend upon you and your fellow u tube collaborations. Thank you
Kirk, don't feel stupid. That is one mistake you'll never make again. Yay!!
Congrats on getting started and never feel stupid. I believed it until I learned. Good luck this year.
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Right. You learn and then go learn something else. Thats what I do.
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Don't worry buddy, I made such stupid errors. I planted citrus in a pot with no holes with pure compost and miracle grow and watered like heck...guess how that turned out xD
You'll try, fail, learn, try again. And you'll get it down 🙂
New Gardner here as well and I too was made a fool with the soil. Thank you Mr Gary. I appreciate you and your insight.
Instant classic! Your videos about soil from past years (and this one) and how to save money on soil have been very useful.
I am so blessed to have found your page cause I thought I was right about this but you just confirmed it ... I was second guessing myself the other day ... remember to stay safe and stay blessed
Go with your gut. Nice.
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Two videos in one day! Super excited gardening season has arrived. Great video!
LOL thanks. More to come over the next few days. I am catching up.
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I noticed this awhile ago. Also, if you look at "top soil for filling holes" it has all the same products except no fertilizer. I added worm castings, bone meal, and fish emulsion and used that in my raised beds/containers. I did let it "age" because I could smell steer manure in it. The topsoil was $2.55/bag.
Adding and aging is key. Nice work
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Thanks for vlog on how read and understand what's in the bag. When my wife and I first started a garden earlier this year we purchased some of the ones in your demonstration. I didn't use them because of the package stating in ground use, we use containers for our veggies and flowers. This clarifies how I use this product for my garden. Thanks
It think it really important so you know how you spending your money. Good luck
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Thanks Gary, for the direct comparison of ingredients over the same brand. This is exactly what I did a few years ago, to try to discern the difference. Miracle Grow is a popular brand name, and I confess I've used it a lot in the past because I couldn't afford to make any mistakes. The only mistake I made while comparing ingredients between MG products was assuming that there must be some difference that I wasn't understanding. Now I know I should've been more confident in my own research. And through watching your videos I've learned that there are cheaper ways to "make my own" that don't have to compromise quality or success. Thanks again!
Yep. I think making your own is really the best way to go. I hope your garden is going well.
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I usually just buy the green Miracle Gro bag when it goes on sale for $2 per 0.75 cu ft. bag. I always add compost and organic slow-release fertilizer.
Sales are worth it.
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Bagged "soil" is just fine wood chips.
Compost your yard waste (branches, grass, leaves) and you've got a far better product.
Yep
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You can also contact nearby dairy farm to get cowdung. They make excellent organic manure. But make sure that you don't use it in fresh condition. 2 years old manure is best fertilizer.👍
Except you can’t compost branches or twiggy sticks but yes make a mMulch and feed it to worms and you have your own worm castings. Which I think is a funny name for 💩😂
@@pjarma8536 yes, there are plenty of earthworms that recycle all organic waste. I agree twigs are hard to decompose but still under moisture they decompose in the long run.
Thanks for putting out great content like this. I used your advise from an earlier video on filling raised beds and saved a ton of money! My new raised beds are 18 inches deep. So I put rotting logs in the bottom. Then lawn clippings, old wood chips I had from my previous gardens mulch, all of the compost I had been making for the last year, then the green bags of miracle grow garden soil, mixed in some peat moss, sheep manure, and some pearlite. I filled two 4’x6’x18” raised beds for about $130!
Glad you saved money. Always something better to buy for the garden. That works. If they plants struggle early on, a bit of fish emulsion works.
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I wish I new about this before buying raised bed/potting soil. Thanks for explaining the soil mixtures and how to save money.
It is confusing.
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I appreciate the comparison of ingredients & percentages. I wish you would have opened the bags & shown the soil. I find some soil has huge chunks of mulch in it. Others have finer shreds of mulch. Some have a good amount of perlite, others just a few specks.
I basically buy busted bags of all kinds, & mix it together. For my containers, I add perlite, bone, blood, epsom salt, & lime. For fertilizer I may add a slow release, compost, worm castings. I’m still experimenting and learning a great deal from your channel.
He's got at least 2 vids where he does exactly that.
What I’ve always said: use manure, compost, or chemical fertilizers. I buy the cheapest soil possible then add to it.
I've often wandered about that. THANK'S
I agree with your approach
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Don’t use chemical fertilizers they leach in to the soils and are bad for the environment
I use sand,cheap soil,and manure from the ranch,
You got the right idea, but ditch the chemical fertilizer. Spend a little more and buy organic. You won't need much and it'll work better with the manure and compost.
Been watching you for 6 years now. You've never disappointed me. I love how you speak the truth. Keeping it 💯👌
Thanks so much as that is my goal
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If you want moisture crystals, the same stuff is in baby diapers. I saved a box of left over diapers that my kids aged out of and I have used them for a few years. Works great in hanging baskets and pots.
Thanks
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The one thing I found with buying these pre- made garden soils is you you got a watch out for plastic so I always screen them. I’ve been using them in pots and inground and raised beds for years contrary to what the package says. I also add some mulch and organic fertilizers to help boost it and it always works out just fine.
Yep stray stuff in there often
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the old ladies at Harvesting History told me that I could use topsoil, mixed w peat & compost and I thought they was crazy! boy, I really fell for Miracle-Gro marketing tricks!
They are right. That mix works
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Gary, that info is spot on! The cheapest one with a few additions is just as good and way cheaper.
I've not done it with "Garden soil" mixes but with potting mixes, I did side by sides from the cheapest to quite expensive.
After adding a little fish emulsion and seaweed solution for fertilizing, all 4 that I tested, there was no noticeable difference in growth.
Personally, my own compost and some coco coir is better than any of the bagged products I've tried.
Big 👍
You got it with the smart use of fertilizer Thanks
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Listening to this as I work in my garden. Thank you so much for very timely and important information. More money equals more plants
True. More money for other garden needs
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN new to your channel. Starting my first garden in south east Virginia. A lot to learn.
If your garden center has the bagged soil in a more generic labeled bags made more locally, you can save about a dollar more over the national brands sold through the big box stores. My garden center sells "Five Way" an amendment made from composted animal coop and stall bedding, fine lumber bark, alfalfa and straw for $50 a yard, $28.00 a 1/2 yard for the larger garden. I used bagged as needed for the smaller strips. I've been using this and other peat based products in my garden the past 37 years in 4- year cycles for 37 years. My light colored sandy soil in my main 1200 sq. ft. plot has turned dark over this time period.
Great tip. Thanks for the details.
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These are my favorite videos! Don't waste your money.
Crazy right
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I get what you're saying about all of the extra ingredients that they put in their garden soils and potting mixes I basically just pay attention to the NPK when I buy container mix and garden soil
I agree
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I love that you are doing this. So many labels and so many people probably get fooled in to buying so many astronomically priced items that are basically the same as cheaper. One thing I found is seasonally Aldi grocery store has 1 cubit foot bags of garden soil for 2.99. Typically in April or early May. I load up on it. To the point I can barely push teh buggy Lol The NPK is like 3-5-4 or something. The Nitrogen isn't as high as the miracle grow products.
That really works. And the price is much cheaper
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Thank you Gary for very interesting and informative videos as always!! You are one of my favorite people!
I appreciate that. Thanks
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Thank you Gary for the soil videos! I plan to grow canataloupes, watermelons, and cucumbers in containers. I feel more confident when buying bagged soil to fill my large containers. I bought peat based soil and bagged compost from a hydroponic store and I'm ready to fill them. Btw, I bought seedling trays from you...they're awesome...they're so sturdy unlike my flimsy Jiffy tray!
As always thank you for your knowledge. I struggle so badly with choosing particular dirt for particular things that I spend so so much money. This was very informative and I will definitely be following your advice thank you so much as usual
Glad to help. This should help you save a few bucks
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Thank you!!! I was just about to go to home depot so you caught me just in time!
Cool. Yeah check out ingredients. Good luck
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Wow another amazing super great video info and analysis from absolutely the best channel on UA-cam. You really showed it's all hype for these over priced product. Thank you and keep up the good work
Appreciated and kind. Good luck this year
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Very good information. My mother inlaw bought regular indoor plant soil groom Steins Gardens and repotted her indoor plants, a week later she had an infestation of fungas knats, she had to call a bug control to rid her of them . She went to Steins they would not give her money back for soil and she had paper work from pest control that indeed knats were from soil in bags. So becareful, of no name products. Thanks again
The do have gnat eggs for sure
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Great video. Confirmed what I’ve always thought. I almost always by no-name brand potting soil IF the ingredients are the 3 main ones you covered. I add my own compost and fertilizer. Saves me a lot of $$ and I always have a beautiful and healthy garden 😊
That is the way to do it.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN done!!
This answered many questions, Thank you.
Glad to share
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You have educated and saved me money and for that I am grateful! 🙏🏽
Thats my goal and glad to help
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Hi! again mr. G.P, thanks again for pointing out of the differences of garden soil. It is confusing what to buy for garden soil to supplement an existing soil in the garden. Yes I’m one of those who got sucked from buying those so called better soil. Thanks again for sharing mr. P.
Ive been there. Figured Id pass on what I learned from buying and using and finally just making my own.
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Just as your previous videos on this subject, very enlightening. So, now that you've taught us about this, what I really want to know is which brand has the finest garden soil in terms of structure. The Pro-mix is excellent but pricier. I am always wondering what is the best "Garden Soil" choice for my dollar. I dislike the ones with the very chunky wood. If not wood, what would they use to fill it? Compost? I also don't always trust the ones with "compost" cause it's like, what kind of compost is it. I was at a hardware store the other day and an employee was talking about how great the compost they sell is. He cut open a bag to show us. "See? It's still steaming. Stick your hand in there and feel how hot that is." Um...that's means it's not finished. So, basically, I can't trust the bags or the employees to know what's up. I guess it's up to Gary to tell us what the best, most affordable, nationally available garden soil product is!
So I do recommend Pro-Mix blends if you don't like making your own. However, I also make mine from the Pro-Mix peat bales. That is just peat. And that is really inexpensive. And you are right on the compost for sure.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Good to know about the bales! So can I take that to mean that you aren't concerned about too much peat in the mix? I often find that it's actually kinda difficult to water deeply when there is a high percentage of peat. It is so effective at absorbing water that I put gallons of water in and still find the water hasn't made it deeply into the roots.
I mix potting and garden soil. They are doing fine. Glad to know I did good for 1st timer
I will say because of you I mixed my own this spring. I also found some potting mix or in ground bed mix -not this one-to be sadly inferior. My plants told me so. Very disappointing when I worked so hard to sew all seeds this year. I am hoping through excellent feedings, I can bring those sad veggies up to par!
I think you can. And over tine you will figure out the perfect mix to make.
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Hey Gary! Love your videos. I just went to my local Home Depot and was told that the buyers at HD are phasing out the blocks of Peat Moss at this time. There are "some" stores that are still carrying it but when stock is depleted, it is very uncertain they will get more. I would have had to drive about 50 minutes to get to the nearest store which had some. Told the store manager that it was disappointing they wouldn't have it. She didn't seem phased one bit. Will be finding a new store (Lowe's) to shop at.
Well that is silly. It was the best priced product and most useful in the garden. I consider that a big mistake.
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I never use miracle grow.
Hold true for other brands
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You are sooooo right!!! Thank you for proving that I was right all along..👍👍👍.
Home Depot and Lowe's have sales during holidays. $2.50 each for .75cu. So if you buy 2 thats $5 for 1.5cu.
Sales are better.
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This is my first year gardening and I was so confused by this. I got suckered into buying specific raised bed soil for my garden. I wasn't impressed with the various different types I tried. All of them were wet, heavy, clumpy mixes that seemed too dense for new roots to grow in. I will say the MG Performance container mix has been the only nice one. It's a lighter shade of brown instead of the almost-black of the other soils I've tried. It's also much finer milled and lighter. It doesn't turn into a hard, compact mess after watering either.
Great video. Thanks for the info and the tag lines. "Work at your budget", good, reasonable advice. Good informational video.
Glad to share and I know we can't all go buy tons of compost.
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I bought walmart top soil, 100 pounds of peat moss, and a couple of bags of cow poop. I also bought some perlite and play sand. I am good.
That works
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Best deal I have found: Kellogg Raised Bed & Potting Mix, Organics Plus (2.0 cubic feet) for $7.97 at Home Depot. The package states "regionally formulated with organic materials" including a goodix of forested products. (It clarifies the differences by state.) I find it always cheaper than Miracle Grow due to volume.
I also buy organic mushroom compost at Walmart for $3.69/ bag to mix with it, plus ground soil. Great stuff!
Good approach.
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I buy whatever is on sale. If using containers, use potting soil. They all work just fine.
Yep
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Moisture retention is by the coco coir which drys out fast so it prevents root rot but requires regular moisture,not over soak if you can figure out how much water the dry pot takes before it begins to drip out the bottom then better thay than drenching in a “better be safe than sorry” all’s you will do is wash out the nutrients.
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Excellent video Gary. 👍
Thanks
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well i bought the “organics” and my observation is that it does not work as well as the less expensive stuff.
on that note, i only want organic fertilizer in my garden
The minuscule amounts of fertilizer won't change anything in you garden btw.
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Very good and useful explanation, youve saved us a lot of money!
Glad to help
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The performance does have a kick ass bag design
Bags look great... if only cheaper
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So I'm thinking I'll just go to Lowes and get the 3 cu ft bale of peat moss for 25 bucks.
Then add what I want. Some perlite, a touch of garden lime, and something to add some microbes like Mycos or Great White or whatever. Then add whatever else you like. Worm castings, my favorite, never grow without and your favorite amendments and nutes.
I was just wondering about this. I have very old, very tired Victorian soil in our hillside beds. Nothing grows, tried manure, wood chips, cocoa, compost... NASTURTIUMS sprouted, didn't grow ( mini) tried roses, so many things.... This year... If I plant veggies, trying new soil, where I plant. Its SO STRANGE!
Perhaps you should see about getting a soil test done. In the US many counties have Extension Programs that can help. Google it.
That is odd.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN thank you, Maybe THIS will be the year they grow, my potted plants/ new beds do fine. Its just those old ones. Thus, the idea of digging a hole...and putting new soil where the new plant will go.
Always love your practical advice
Thanks!
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I put clean pellet paper cat litter in my soil to retain moisture...
Interesting
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Thank you for your videos they have saved me so much money. Can I use the garden soil in my raised beds??
I do. It can be plended with your earth or as a fill for the beds
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i've stopped using so much peat and perlite, too wet, but more vermiculite. i no longer put holes in bottom of containers, but about 3/4 inch from the bottom, all around the container. this retains just a little water.
The side hole is a great idea. I have done that
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Very interesting! I have wasted A LOT.of money buying the Miracle Grow organic soil in the black bag and I end up finding all sorts of plastic, glass and even metal pieces in it! Miracle Grow "say" they have a 100% money back guarantee ....I provided them with all the receipts and they have been stringing me along for months to get me that refund. Buying dirt is SUCH A RACKET! I am working hard to compost way more to stop buying any dirt!
I do agree. Sorry you have that hassle
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People made this wildly false claims and i know im 2 years late but you did not find any of those in it, and to prove a point and cause i needed soil anyways I bought 50 bags of miracle gro soil and metal detected all the bags with a pro grade metal detector didnt get any metal in any of them and even sifted them to break the soil up and found 2 pieces of the stuff the bags are made out of. People have been bullshitting finding stuff in miracle gro just to lie and cause controversy.
Great work. Money is made by color and packing
True
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Great info and extremely clear.
Glad to help. Good luck.
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I never buy soil. I buy a giant bale of Canadian peat moss for 15.00. I buy a pickup truckload of compost from a local place made with horse manure and wood chips for 60.00. I usually buy compost in the fall and rest it until spring in a covered enclosed metal container or I spread it on a hedge before I cover it. To make container soil I use our top soil which is a nice sandy loam and mix it with the peat and compost to achieve the consistency I am looking for. I usually have pretty good results I don't live near a box store so can't imagine running to the box store for multiple bags of soil.
Bingo, that what I do. Not everyone has room to do that but it is the best way.
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I use sunshine #4 for years never had problem #1 soil.
When you find something good stick with it for sure. We don't have that around here
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gosh its about money money money thank you for sharing everything is high
Glad to share. I just want people to be informed.
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I’ll never trust miracle gro again after purchasing two bags of low quailty soil & stones filled with mites
Yep.
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Same thing happened to me. Infected my entire garden from my raised beds all the way to my flower containers. Now I'm stuck spraying everything.
Incredibly informative as all of your videos that I've seen are! I do love those plant markers! Thank you for de mystifying the organics for us! I will say, I don't use Scott's products anyway( miracle grow, ortho, natures care etc) . My question is If we add a product with synthetic fertilizer to the planting space isn't that space no longer organically maintained and the plants would now have synthetic fertilizer in their cell walls?
You could not say your are 100% organic. You could say you are 99% and choose to have an organic based garden, healthy food and know what you eat. I have tons of compost now. I use organic store bought stuff a lot less. I will use synthetic fertilizer when need, especially in containers. Enjoy your garden, and be as organic as you can.
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Thanks for the video, very informative and eye opening.
Thats my hope.. Good luck, this year
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Thanks for showing this! Nowhere around here carries the Promix, and the stuff I used last year to set up and try to heal the ground is too costly now (Coast of Maine anything...) I will get the green bag and some peat...getting ready to put my Greenstalk together and fill the rest of my grow bags!
That will work
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Check out hydroponic stores or local garden centers (not big box stores) in your area.
I was happily surprised to find that Menards (don't know if they're in your area) carries Promix!
THANK YOU for exposing more rip off companies D
Just good to know where you are spending your money. Savings can go to other needs in the garden.
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Wow. I had a nursery owner tell me the same thing about fertilizer and 'organic' bagged soil. Now I know he was right. Thank you so much for this wonderful information!!! I am trying to get soil in the cheap this year. Question: if you do amend with a fertilized bagged soil, would you still add fish emulsion?
I still do. You can really go wrong with fish emulsion to get transplants going.
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Thank you for a great explanation and video
Glad to share
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Very useful informative thanks Gary
Worm cast/pot ash/bonemeal hand full of each into the potting hole is all you need.
Or N/P/K to the nerds 🤓
I use castings in my vertical towers. Great stuff.
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Outstanding video
Thanks
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I bought Garden soil 0.75 cu/ft. for $2.50 on sale a week ago.
Thats a better price
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Wow, great points always love to save money.
Glad to help
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Thanks for the great explanation...this is good to know.
Glad to share
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Very valuable information.Thanks.
Glad to share. Thanks
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I've found most bags of "soil" are almost 50% sticks and wood. I made a sifter to get that junk out, decomposing wood sucks nitrogen from your soil short term.
That is true for many
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Very helpful information. Thank you!
Yep
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Hi, love your advice, thank you for all your videos. About dirt issues, All the directions say mix bagged with native dirt, but when I build up a garden bed, trees and shrubs, I am starting from scratch with very little native dirt to work with. I installed 2 dwarf arborvitaes. One in mostly native dirt mixed with bagged soil and one was planted primarily with bagged dirt because I needed a berm (miracle grow garden soil or premium
equivalent). The one with primarily bagged dirt is failing. And, I find when using this method, I can easily pull plants out of the ground, the dirt is too fine and seems to retain too much water also. The family-owned garden center said it's not meant for berm building, so how do I make this right, Should I dig it all out, and mix native (mostly clay) soil dug up from somewhere else in my yard. What would be a suitable substitute - use bags of cheap topsoil to fill holes and mostly sand and such. Can't find anyone addressing this issue so any advice would be great.
I am not sure. Usually just means blend the bagged stuff well with soil in and around the planting hole. If that is working, you might have to dig it it out and blend whatever you buy with you clay. The other option, if you have space, is to check with landscape companies and get a compost soil drop.
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Thank you so much. This will save me so much money x.
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Fantastic information! Thanks!
Glad to share. I felt it was important
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Morning mate :)
Cheers
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peat moss, and forestry product are extracted from natural environments where no synthetics were used therefor they are organic, not sure if they use fertilizer on the coconut plantations. so 95% of the ingredients are "organic" in the non organic ones
Black Cow is the best top soil in my opinion.
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Great info!
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Great information
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In the UK we only have topsoil or compost. It’s hard to find bagged potting soil or mix.
Also, almost none of our bagged compost list the npk or ingredients on the bag. Not to mention, it’s almost impossible to find peat moss in stores.
You guys in the USA have it so good…
I think we do and are lucky Canada sends us peat. Good luck this year
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Thank you so much for this information 😊👍❤️
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You said 6 or 8 minutes mister. I will not stand for lies and deceit. However, thank you for the awesome vijeo.
Sometimes once I start talking it gets out of hand. Sorry about that. But the time stamp keeps me honest.
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Wow! Great video. 👍🏻
Thanks
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Thank you!! A very informative video 👏 👌
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Buy local. Family owned and cerified organic soil. Your best value.
Thats a good idea
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My biggest gripe is that there's no universal measuring amount used for garden soils and potting mix. Some use quarts, some use cubic feet, some use liters etc. I always have to do the calculations myself to see what's the best price.
So true and weight is sometimes dry, wet and even compressed.
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Thanks for doing this video!
Glad to make it
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Thanks Gary!!
Home Depot has sales 2 to 4 times a year .75 cu ft for 2.50 which means 5.00 for 1.5 cu ft.of green bag
Thats better.
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