It is the best thing he has done. The most selfless thing. But that is very much Joe. He always protects the kids because he somewhat wishes someone protected him.
The only pure and true love Joe has ever had in this show is Henry. He doesn’t abandon his son, he is aware that his obsessions will be unhealthy for the child, so he gives him a healthy home. I do hope that Henry will be the cause for Joe’s downfall.
Henry is the only person Joe’s ever loved so much that he gave him up accepting he’s not a person fit enough to raise him. And making sure he’s put in an environment with people that can give him the love and support he’ll need. Unlike his mother, Joe is an actual parent that puts his child’s needs before his.
@@NaturalLeafLife that’s also true but let’s not forget his actions will catch up to him. If he’s caught and sent to prison Henry will be put in the system. He didn’t want him to go through what he experienced. That’s another reason why he gave him up. He still put his needs over his.
Joe loves no one except himself , he just love the idea of hurting people and he feels good about that , he abandoned his son and kills the mother of his child
I don't get why people say Joe abandoned his son. Leaving Henry with Dante and Matthew is a MUCH healthier option then him taking his son on his international murder fest as he stalks another obsession.
I actually think Joe leaving Henry shows he loves him the most. When Joe loves he loses his battle in obsession and he will not leave them alone even if it is in their best interest and ties to control everything about them. with henry he overrides this compulsion to give him his best shot. He overcomes his own abandonment issues to finally put someone else above his own desires.
Yeah. Season 5 will be the last chance whether Joe dies or finds happiness. While he is a monster that deserves no redemption, I can't help but root for him when I see this.
He did what was best for the baby. He knew he was crazy and so was love, that’s why he gave Henry too Dante and Lansing. He knew the child would end up dead or traumatized for life with them as parents
@@caldervitriolic2128 yeah I actually forgot to ne her too. She would be the most active in charge of hunting him down but it depends because he's also financially supporting her so it would be a moral grey area.
As sad as it is I think it makes sense, especially with him having the flashback of what his mother told him about how she was bad for him. And he did it as he was still a baby.
@@JackErica19 wait he didint? Then who was the one who grew up in a nice house and good parents. Because I remember back in high school my teacher talking about the relations of serial killers and their childhoods and how that affected them. I know Jeffrey Dahmer did not have good parents
The scenes involving Henry crying all the time and him being there when his parents are doing something ugly really makes me feel so bad. I really hope Henry grows up to be a really good person, absolutely nothing like his mother and father.
He was a great dad! What a shame he had to let him go to protect him and give him the best future. I cried my eyes out i still feel sad thinking about it. He spent so much time bonding with his son, carrying for him and in the end he couldn't provide him with what himself was missing in his life. So very heartbreaking.
He is tho. Im a psychology student and this (ASPD) was our topic last sem. People with sociopathy can still feel and have empathy but it’s very irregular. So in way he is still human but twisted.
But that would be in 15-20 years. Which would require a big jump in time. Goldberg would be 40-50 years old and probably already in prison/mental health clinic/dead.
I feel terrible for Henry. His parents loved him so, so much, despite being serial killers. They lived in a good neighborhood, had a great house, he could've lived the perfect life with his parents
He’ll probably be groomed though let’s be honest. Isn’t it a strange coincidence that monkey pops is a std and it has is very common among boys with 2 dads?
That a nice delivery room. I do like that Joe always correcting people when they call him Forty. I do have a theory that Henry aka Forty will be the one to stop Joe for good.
Never seen anyone so initially disappointed to have a son. Joe only wanted a daughter so he could act out his own childhood trauma with his mom and dad.
I actually think its the opposite! Joe projects onto every child he sees so I think with a son he had too much paranoia the kid was going to come out like him and the cycle of trauma would continue. With a daughter, the dynamic in his mind it would be "different" and she would be "pure" in his eyes.
Writers pay attention. I need a Christmas episode where Love comes back to haunt him (MAJOR SCROOGE CHRISTMAS CAROL VIBES) and I want him to see the future of all the kid’s lives he’s ruined. Thanks
Sounds like an amazing idea but what does everyone mean by Joe ruining the kids lives. Paco, sure. A kid being exposed to murder and being told that it's good to see bad people die is a recipe for Paco to grow up just like Joe. But I'm hoping Paco is actually having a better life now with his mom. Ellie even if it wasn't entirely intentional. But he's trying to redeem himself in his own way and sending her money. And the biggest good deed Joe has done (spoiler) is giving away Henry. "I didn’t have good parents, but I know what a good parent does. Protect. Even if that means protecting you from…" Henry will be much happier and safer. Am I missing someone?
@@ritz_pieces Marianne's daughter. She still has her mom (hopefully depending on how s4 goes) but Joe murdered her dad and traumatized her mom so much they fled to another country so that's bound to have some negative effects
I really don't get why anyone says Joe abandons Henry. Leaving him with more stable guardians was probably the most responsible, loving and selfless thing he's ever gonna do.
Nice. Seeing this, I wonder how Klaus managed to be an amazing Da'ad in The Originals. Maybe, bcs he had constant support of the family and 2 competitors ready to be the Da'adto his child. Plus, Hope wasn't a normal kid. So yeah.
He was a horrible person but a adorable dad. His "YOU" is literally henry. He should have loved him and not go after any other woman(whom he's gonna kill at some point lol)
I can't decide whether Joe didn't love Henry enough or loved him too much. When he gave him to Dante to chase after Marianne, did he choose his obsession over Henry or did he choose to save Henry from his obsession by letting him go?
@@mrj6073 seems like lotta fillers tbh, and I liked it only until there was this therapist. After that it loses the charm. just random killings and forced script 😤
He gave Henry to a Dante and Lansing, a couple with a healthy relationship and two sons of their own who, as far as we know, are well developed. Joe says they are good parents for which I agree
I think its bc he has that protective and obsessive side for women so he maybe hoped a baby girl would change him by only having eyes for her. A boy would just turn out like him or see the real him.
probably because he’s his mother’s son. he wants a daughter in hopes she won’t become like himself. i know a lot of people who had a bad childhood so they want a child who is the opposite gender of themselves, idk.
I always wonder what acting is like for a baby, I know the baby doesn’t have to do anything other than just be a baby button weird situation or weird movies do you think any of the babies like freak out
That’s what I’m scared of My own daughter or son doesn’t like me, I don’t want end up like my mom. I want to a good mom to them. If I screw up their be like me dumb n won’t like college.
I can see it now Henry when he’s a teenager his grades start falling and he’s stalking an older boy and Joe not happy that Henry isn’t doing good at school so Joe puts the pieces together and follows Henry and discovers he’s planning on doing what Joe’s done and of course he wants to keep Henry from getting caught cause then the family gets investigated and caught for other crimes. So Joe stops Henry from being like him. And no Joe wouldn’t hurt his son.
He is growing up with a loving family in Madre Linda. Joe went from an abusive household to being bullied in the system to being taken in by an abusive father figure (Mr. Mooney).
I still stand with my theory that Henry isn’t Joe’s son. This is why he can’t bond or connect with him. He’s not his son. He’s Milo’s son. I still don’t know if Love did it on purpose to trap Joe, or if it was an accident. In season 2, Forty tells Milo something in the lines of “can’t wait to see what else u come up with to trap my sister” Idk but i’m convinced Henry is not Joe’s.
Is Joe capable of love? I disagree that he is just the best dad and loves his child. Or that it's the only "pure/true" love Joe has had. Joe is toxic ,selfish, psychotic, deranged, obsessive. He is awful. Period. He has NO redeeming qualities whatsoever! Nothing about him and his child adds up to love or any kind of goodness.Everyone is a pawn to Joe, a means to a end or a player in the fantasy he manipulates for his abusive actions. So gross how many people make excuses for the character that is Joe.
well it honestly makes a lot of sense to me if you really think about it, since forty is now dead wouldn’t he rather want a girl so it’s easier to get her away from them and try to escape? because yes they’d still be very very protective of their baby if she was a girl but since it’s a boy he reminds them a lot more of forty, hope that makes sense
It was his own twisted way to show that he didn't want his son to end up like him. With a boy, he would've been most likely to see his own personality traits in his son, and he didn't want that.
uh it's a good thing he left henry with dante and his husband! would you have preferred the kid to either grow up with a psycho as a father or (is joe ever to get arrested) taken by the system and growing up in an orphanage?
The "so wait..you don't hate me?" scene in that library was so heart warming😭😭. That's the only scene where i find joe adorable
Joe is a lovable character.
3:30 pulled my heartstrings
Just watching this scene now! Such a sweet moment ❤
literally 😭😭
i know it sucks that he left his son but am i the only one that thinks it was the best thing joe did? now henry's in a supporting and loving family.
Yesss
I hope jerry come back to work with joe
Atfirst it seems nice, until you realize that he’s chasing a woman who has a daughter.. as if he’d be good for them
I meant to say herry
@@dailytrash8540 couldn't be a good parent to his son but he can definitely be a good parent to a stranger's daughter
i can't believe some people are mad he left henry with dante and his husband when that was one of the few decent things joe has done.
It was smartest decision he has ever made.
It is the best thing he has done. The most selfless thing. But that is very much Joe. He always protects the kids because he somewhat wishes someone protected him.
It was stupid
But I'm glad cuz the baby story line is boring anyway
Imo
The only pure and true love Joe has ever had in this show is Henry. He doesn’t abandon his son, he is aware that his obsessions will be unhealthy for the child, so he gives him a healthy home. I do hope that Henry will be the cause for Joe’s downfall.
“He doesn’t abandon son” he literally abandons him in the last episode lol
Not downfall but HEALING*
@@andrewgarfield9898 to me, abandoning means leaving him alone or in “the system”. Joe leaves him with a very healthy couple with Dante and Lansing.
@@thattrickytrickster612 it's Dante not Matthew
@@andrewgarfield9898 that was the right thing to do
Watching Joe form a bond with Henry was the cutest fucking thing ever 😭
Henry is the only person Joe’s ever loved so much that he gave him up accepting he’s not a person fit enough to raise him.
And making sure he’s put in an environment with people that can give him the love and support he’ll need. Unlike his mother, Joe is an actual parent that puts his child’s needs before his.
@@NaturalLeafLife that’s also true but let’s not forget his actions will catch up to him. If he’s caught and sent to prison Henry will be put in the system. He didn’t want him to go through what he experienced. That’s another reason why he gave him up. He still put his needs over his.
Pretty sure instead of running with his son off to another country he abandoned him so he could chase pussy in Paris and never come back
Joe loves no one except himself , he just love the idea of hurting people and he feels good about that , he abandoned his son and kills the mother of his child
I don't get why people say Joe abandoned his son. Leaving Henry with Dante and Matthew is a MUCH healthier option then him taking his son on his international murder fest as he stalks another obsession.
Big time
Even though joe is psycho 2:49 was the cutest thing ever
“ you wanna know a secret, daddy kills people” wait this ain’t Dexter
But Joe minds me of Dexter... Do You know Dexter has S09 called Dexter New Blood and comes out 7 November 2021 and with 10 episodes
@@marihillestad5486 I know I just binged all 8 seasons and is hyped
@@omarstone4637 I cant wait watch Dexter New Blood, Hawkeye S01, Riverdale S06, Stargirl 2x13 and Legends of Tomorrow S07
@@marihillestad5486 omg i know just the 9th season is coming but i didn't know if it coming out so soon! This is such a good news!
I actually think Joe leaving Henry shows he loves him the most. When Joe loves he loses his battle in obsession and he will not leave them alone even if it is in their best interest and ties to control everything about them. with henry he overrides this compulsion to give him his best shot. He overcomes his own abandonment issues to finally put someone else above his own desires.
Yeah. Season 5 will be the last chance whether Joe dies or finds happiness. While he is a monster that deserves no redemption, I can't help but root for him when I see this.
He was a dad for one season. How lovely. I hope all these kids he’s leaving behind comes back to haunt him
Woah, I agree but that got dark real quick ._.
He did what was best for the baby. He knew he was crazy and so was love, that’s why he gave Henry too Dante and Lansing. He knew the child would end up dead or traumatized for life with them as parents
Imagine Henry grows up to meet Paco and they hunt Joe down?? That's a whole spin off
@@priyachoudhary9896 They meet Elli along the way but for her it's not about finding him it's about exposing him
@@caldervitriolic2128 yeah I actually forgot to ne her too. She would be the most active in charge of hunting him down but it depends because he's also financially supporting her so it would be a moral grey area.
2:18 That was so subtle yet freaking scary. Penn Badgley is an amazing actor.
What was it?
@@maeg.9123his facial twitch
With someone with a lot of abandonment issues I’m surprised he left Henry
actually makes sense joe doing that
As sad as it is I think it makes sense, especially with him having the flashback of what his mother told him about how she was bad for him. And he did it as he was still a baby.
It happens all the time, that’s why people like that shouldn’t procreate
He wanted a daughter from the start. He never connected with him
Well when the option is growing up with a psycho
I really enjoy when Joe and Love fight, right in the middle of digging up a body. And its the right kind of married fighting too.
The baby’s first word has to be “YOU”
henry is so fucking adorable
I’m not a fan of kids but I’ll admit he’s very cute especially the library scene😊.
That going to be so great for the kid realising his parents are killers 🤣🤣
hopefully it's not genetic 😬 especially now that he's with a better loving family
Ted Bundy’s kid seems to be doing fine from what we’ve heard
@@JackErica19 yet Ted bundy grew up in a nice family and so did Manson yet they are killers.
@@devannyblanco3309 “Ted Bundy grew up in a nice family”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Have you tried looking at Bundy’s childhood?
@@JackErica19 wait he didint? Then who was the one who grew up in a nice house and good parents. Because I remember back in high school my teacher talking about the relations of serial killers and their childhoods and how that affected them. I know Jeffrey Dahmer did not have good parents
The scenes involving Henry crying all the time and him being there when his parents are doing something ugly really makes me feel so bad. I really hope Henry grows up to be a really good person, absolutely nothing like his mother and father.
He truly is a daddy. Even before Henry
YES!!!!!!! Y-E-S!!!!!!
True 💕
He was a great dad! What a shame he had to let him go to protect him and give him the best future. I cried my eyes out i still feel sad thinking about it. He spent so much time bonding with his son, carrying for him and in the end he couldn't provide him with what himself was missing in his life. So very heartbreaking.
the show uses children to make joe seem more human than he actually is
He is tho. Im a psychology student and this (ASPD) was our topic last sem. People with sociopathy can still feel and have empathy but it’s very irregular. So in way he is still human but twisted.
What if Henry finds out about what he did to his Mom and haunts him down omg im dead💀
But that would be in 15-20 years. Which would require a big jump in time. Goldberg would be 40-50 years old and probably already in prison/mental health clinic/dead.
I feel terrible for Henry. His parents loved him so, so much, despite being serial killers. They lived in a good neighborhood, had a great house, he could've lived the perfect life with his parents
Leaving Henry to Dante was Joe’s best decision now Henry will grow up in a happy healthy home
I agree!
He’ll probably be groomed though let’s be honest.
Isn’t it a strange coincidence that monkey pops is a std and it has is very common among boys with 2 dads?
@@HighTierHuman-o2yWhere did you get this information??
the ending made me cry. again.
Love your icon!
@@tellinglives9240 thank you!!
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That a nice delivery room. I do like that Joe always correcting people when they call him Forty. I do have a theory that Henry aka Forty will be the one to stop Joe for good.
That baby is a cutie pie
What I’d give to see a Joe and Dexter showdown whenever this show does end :’)
I’m pretty sure Delilah referenced dexter (the show) so I don’t think they’re in the same universe but that would be super cool
Dexter kills other killer. An apex predator. He would easily win.
He’s always been a “daddy”
*Not gonna lie I was thinking about a different type of DADDY JOE but he could be both so......😍*
same girl, same
Never seen anyone so initially disappointed to have a son. Joe only wanted a daughter so he could act out his own childhood trauma with his mom and dad.
I actually think its the opposite! Joe projects onto every child he sees so I think with a son he had too much paranoia the kid was going to come out like him and the cycle of trauma would continue. With a daughter, the dynamic in his mind it would be "different" and she would be "pure" in his eyes.
With Joe and Love, I will never complain about my parents again ahhaha
they werent bad parents, they were just broken as people.
Nah. I'd gladly trade in my parents for these two.
they weren’t bad parents, but they’re murderers 💀😬
I wish they would of gave him a daughter so I could see his over crazy protective side
FR
Girl I think we’ve seen that side
See him not wanting his daughter to date someone like him
No, no no no, not at all 😣
Writers pay attention. I need a Christmas episode where Love comes back to haunt him (MAJOR SCROOGE CHRISTMAS CAROL VIBES) and I want him to see the future of all the kid’s lives he’s ruined. Thanks
Sounds like an amazing idea but what does everyone mean by Joe ruining the kids lives. Paco, sure. A kid being exposed to murder and being told that it's good to see bad people die is a recipe for Paco to grow up just like Joe. But I'm hoping Paco is actually having a better life now with his mom. Ellie even if it wasn't entirely intentional. But he's trying to redeem himself in his own way and sending her money. And the biggest good deed Joe has done (spoiler) is giving away Henry. "I didn’t have good parents, but I know what a good parent does. Protect. Even if that means protecting you from…" Henry will be much happier and safer. Am I missing someone?
@@ritz_pieces Marianne's daughter. She still has her mom (hopefully depending on how s4 goes) but Joe murdered her dad and traumatized her mom so much they fled to another country so that's bound to have some negative effects
He’s too busy dominating Europe with Porto to be a good dad
Joe made a good choice when leaving Henry with Dante and Lansing ngl. Imagine growing up with Joe Goldberg 😵
last scene was so sad :((
I cried at the end.
WAIT I LOVE NETFLIX LMAO
I really don't get why anyone says Joe abandons Henry. Leaving him with more stable guardians was probably the most responsible, loving and selfless thing he's ever gonna do.
Nice. Seeing this, I wonder how Klaus managed to be an amazing Da'ad in The Originals. Maybe, bcs he had constant support of the family and 2 competitors ready to be the Da'adto his child. Plus, Hope wasn't a normal kid. So yeah.
4:29 can relate
Oh, he's a daddy alright... ;)
5:18 good choice!
He was a horrible person but a adorable dad. His "YOU" is literally henry. He should have loved him and not go after any other woman(whom he's gonna kill at some point lol)
I can't decide whether Joe didn't love Henry enough or loved him too much. When he gave him to Dante to chase after Marianne, did he choose his obsession over Henry or did he choose to save Henry from his obsession by letting him go?
00:39 producer Penn? Wow
big arrow with *daddy* sjshjs
That title really through me off-guard
"Welcome home forty"☠️☠️
Finally now it isnt joe mama now its JOE BABA
He's SO fine 🥰
Well it doesn’t last, since he gives his baby to his mate
I'm sad Henry didn't get to know his loving mother, all he'll know about her is that she was a horrible murderer who killed his dad 😒
ok cute and all but WHEN ARE WE GETTING SEASON 4
2023?
They knew what they were doing with the title
Finished episode 2 and not sure if it’s just going to be same same and not worth it… should I persevere?
@@wacky8595 It doesn't. It's good until ep 5 only
@@litel168 the later half of the season is good too
@@mrj6073 seems like lotta fillers tbh, and I liked it only until there was this therapist. After that it loses the charm. just random killings and forced script 😤
@@litel168 hmm I found the killings and the events that transpire from there quite captivating but each to their own I suppose
Joe made the right decision by leaving Henry he doesnt want his son to end up like him
Surprised that the embodiment of "savior complex" decided to abandon his baby who needs protection.
He saved Henry.. from himself 🤣🤣
He gave Henry to a Dante and Lansing, a couple with a healthy relationship and two sons of their own who, as far as we know, are well developed. Joe says they are good parents for which I agree
but he did it to protect henry from himself
I didn't get why he was so annoyed that he didn't have a daughter?
he never had a good relationships with men
he didn’t want the boy to turn out like him
I think its bc he has that protective and obsessive side for women so he maybe hoped a baby girl would change him by only having eyes for her. A boy would just turn out like him or see the real him.
probably because he’s his mother’s son. he wants a daughter in hopes she won’t become like himself. i know a lot of people who had a bad childhood so they want a child who is the opposite gender of themselves, idk.
He didn't think he could deal with a boy.
I always wonder what acting is like for a baby, I know the baby doesn’t have to do anything other than just be a baby button weird situation or weird movies do you think any of the babies like freak out
Does anyone else think Joe would kidnap Henry if he found out the Quinn's took him away from Dante
I sure do hope one day Henry doesn't become a criminal and tries to Break into a Bank that would be so lame.
That’s what I’m scared of
My own daughter or son doesn’t like me, I don’t want end up like my mom.
I want to a good mom to them. If I screw up their be like me dumb n won’t like college.
I can see it now Henry when he’s a teenager his grades start falling and he’s stalking an older boy and Joe not happy that Henry isn’t doing good at school so Joe puts the pieces together and follows Henry and discovers he’s planning on doing what Joe’s done and of course he wants to keep Henry from getting caught cause then the family gets investigated and caught for other crimes. So Joe stops Henry from being like him. And no Joe wouldn’t hurt his son.
henry ended up just like joe
how
how?? he has a lovely family
He is growing up with a loving family in Madre Linda. Joe went from an abusive household to being bullied in the system to being taken in by an abusive father figure (Mr. Mooney).
Is it only me who noticed the background scores are same as Emma Chamberlain's new Vlogs?
Okay hear me out everyone Love and Joe ARE Abigail and John Marston from RDR2 just a modern retelling ☺🙃
does joe get henry back at the end of season 4? wish we could have seen him
I still stand with my theory that Henry isn’t Joe’s son. This is why he can’t bond or connect with him. He’s not his son. He’s Milo’s son. I still don’t know if Love did it on purpose to trap Joe, or if it was an accident. In season 2, Forty tells Milo something in the lines of “can’t wait to see what else u come up with to trap my sister”
Idk but i’m convinced Henry is not Joe’s.
I know about Joe's mother, but did they ever get into his Dad, I don't remember
3:18
Is Joe capable of love? I disagree that he is just the best dad and loves his child. Or that it's the only "pure/true" love Joe has had. Joe is toxic ,selfish, psychotic, deranged, obsessive. He is awful. Period. He has NO redeeming qualities whatsoever! Nothing about him and his child adds up to love or any kind of goodness.Everyone is a pawn to Joe, a means to a end or a player in the fantasy he manipulates for his abusive actions. So gross how many people make excuses for the character that is Joe.
The name of the serie?
"You" on Netflix
He is the worst! And the only good decision he made was giving his baby to someone better.
In a notty way 😏
I really loved Joe but he killed his child's mother
To who he left his kid???
Dante and his partner. The guy who work un the library.
I thought the baby died
But.........Who’s Joe?
joe mama
Here afet laura ingraham😂
so the child isn't his?
I don’t think he is.
He has five kids
I still don’t understand why joe didn’t want a son instead of a daughter
well it honestly makes a lot of sense to me if you really think about it, since forty is now dead wouldn’t he rather want a girl so it’s easier to get her away from them and try to escape? because yes they’d still be very very protective of their baby if she was a girl but since it’s a boy he reminds them a lot more of forty, hope that makes sense
It was his own twisted way to show that he didn't want his son to end up like him. With a boy, he would've been most likely to see his own personality traits in his son, and he didn't want that.
Hi
I wonder what could have happened if it was a girl.
WHAT
What type of daddy 🙁
He left his kid for a GIRL!! Smh
That's not why he left henry...
I mean it's probably for the best - the kid would've grown up with two psychopath parents but now he has a nice family
@@Yungkingstonn Agreed
False
uh it's a good thing he left henry with dante and his husband! would you have preferred the kid to either grow up with a psycho as a father or (is joe ever to get arrested) taken by the system and growing up in an orphanage?
😀
I wrote Joe Biden being a daddy and had dirty thoughts 🤨
NO.
@@yldzyldz790 yes
такая жуткая хрень, даже не буду это смотреть
Did Love ever love Joe why did she betray him
The name of the serie?
it’s called “YOU”