I think it could speak to the fact that Rhaenyra grew up in a Targaryen house with the proper training and education while Daenerys grew up in exile with the lack of a strong Valyrian influence.
She grew up in exile in Essos where the common tongue was Low Valyrian and each City State probably had it's own dialect. Braavosi, Pentosii, Meerenese. High Valyrian died out with the fall of Valyria the way Latin fell out of favor after the fall of Roman influence. It seems as if Dany was fluent in Low Valyrian and Westerosi common tongue as well.
"thriving" Meaning that no more than some 100 speakers spoke it on daily basis? My dear summer child, that not what Thriving means. That's what Dying and surging is. It's like stating that Latin is a thriving language because there are many who can speak it today.... It's not
These comparison games in the comments are stupid. First of all, Rhaenyra says it with grief. Daenerys says it with contemptuous strength. These are two different attitudes that affect the tone of the word being spoken. Furthermore, Rhaenyra has been literally raised with her culture somewhat intact. When you hear Rhaenyra speak High Valyrian, she is speaking it with the correct accent unlike Daenerys. Daenerys has had nobody to teach her proper High Valyrian, which is why she speaks it with a Tyroshi accent. She even fails to understand some sentences in it which is why Missandei is her scribe/translator. I love them both but please stop with the misinformation. We have yet to hear Rhaenyra say Dracarys in battle!
Danny's accent has been neutral since she speaks different languages. Rhaenyra's is of old-valyria hence her beautiful valyrian accent. I love hearing the contrast from both of them. I do prefer rhaenyra's.
Rhaenyra is mourning. Daenerys was insulted. Rhaenyra: Let's get this over and done with. Daenerys: Let me introduce myself Beeyatch! Love both though.
Also there are just differences in speech between individuals, even ones who are from the same place and speak the same language. The actors themselves won’t sound the same speaking English, let alone High Valeryian.
I like both. Daenerys’s Dracarys was filled with rage and power at the idea of a low born slaver talking down to a Targaryen, as well as the idea that she would allow anyone to take her dragons away from her. While Rhaenyra was filled with rage and sadness at the loss of her mother and brother. Both carried weight and purpose, and both represented strong women who were actually able to be somewhat vulnerable but strong at the same time.
Both sound good and we have to remember there is almost 200 years difference so the sound of language changes over time and they are different people not representing the same person. I was suprised when i heard Rhaenyra say it cuz i was half expecting the show to just copy paste Dany over her but glad they didnt.
I agree. Language changes a whole lot between decades let alone a few centuries. I’m also glad that Rhaenyra is different from Dany even in small ways like their accents. Rhaenyra’s ancestral ties are much closer to Valeria than Dany’s, so of course the way she speaks the language will be slightly different in some ways. She was also surrounded by several people with High Valerian as their mother tongue when Dany had maybe 1 or 2 people who spoke it with her as a child.
They both did it amazing in different ways under different circumstances but still really awesome that I still get goosebumps every time! The only word I can speak and remember in these dragon vids😜
That Daenerys scene still give me chills and I actually love how different she sound compare to the HotD Targaryen. Great details to show the difference between a Targaryen Princess in exile and one who grew up surrounded by her people culture. Still my #1 Dracarys moment btw
In the overall story Rhaenyra is technically Daenerys' ancestor. and in her time it was the height of power of the house Targaryen where their power, culture and customs are felt everywhere. So for sure she speaks the language correctly and pronounced it correctly as well. unlike in Daenerys' time where the house Targaryen is extinct. she grew up in exile and no one taught her her family's traditions, customs and language. All she knows about her family and ancestors are what the general public knows as well. she really didnt get to know first had insights and such. So I really appreciate the difference. it doesn't mean that Daenerys' "Dracarys" is ugly and Rhaenyra's correct or vice versa. it kind of shows only how is the house Targaryen during their times.
I think it makes sense and I like the change between Rhaenyra and Danny. On one side it shows the changes in the language over generations and on the other Valyrian is considered a mostly dead language even during Rhaenyras time, by the time Daenerys learned it there was no one to teach her proper Valyrian and her pronounciations are "tainted" by her dominant language, "the common" in the show, aka english.
@@timorcohen4641 under Rhaenyra’s circumstances. Her tone was fitting. She lost her mother and brother. Her father does not talk to her because he was grieving.
Danys tone was appropriate for those badass scenes, she had to come off sounding powerful and intimidating to progress in her dragon girl power domination, Whereas Rhaenyra is talking in a casual collected tone amongst family and diplomats, she is being cautious and seeing how things play out before she makes her move. they're both great.
Man they did well with the casting of Rhaenyra. She actually looks like she'd be Daenerys's ancestor because the resemblance is striking. PS: I know that's bound to happen after generations of incest but still.
I love both because both of their Valyrian accents are quite good. Objectively speaking though, Rhaenyra sounds more fluent with her accent throughout the show. (I really like how the dragonkeepers sound too!)
Can’t wait to hear Matt Smith and others say it. I know the Valyrian language in House of the Dragon will be more accurate because of GRRM and David J. Peterson involvement with the show.
@Someguy136 exactly. she was an interesting character, but there were so many incredible characters with better layers and more remarkable in mind and talent and character development. she is the fan favorite bc she's cool and has a cool dragon aesthetic and is beautiful. but she had no proper political mind and only got far due to her dragons and advisors. i am actually enjoying the targaryens more now that this show is out though
Daenerys canonically has Tyroshi accent, which makes sense since she was living in Free Cities for her whole life. And since she also stayed in Tyrosh, it makes sense that she adapted their accent. Also, the only person who taught Dany High Valyrian & B*st*rd Valyrian languages was Viserys. But Viserys left King's Landing when he was only 8 and his mother dies shortly after. Which is why he probably didn't have a chance to learn these languages properly, and therefore couldn't teach Dany entirely either. Rhaenyra, on the other hand, grew up with Valyrian people. Her father, her uncle, her mother (Emma's mother is also a Targaryen), her cousins... So it's easier for her to speak with the Valyrian accent. And since she had more sources, she'd easily learn Valyrian languages too.
I love this so much, it was such a small touch but i noticed it instantly. The attention to detail in how a language would evolve, have old/new dialects and be influenced by the languages around them is amazing. Let's not forget how english has evolved just within the past 80 years.
I love Rhaenyra bec it’s more traditional Valyrian (I can’t wait to see her use it in a battle sense and not just lighting pyre of her mother) but Daenerys is just ICONIC and so badass and so perfect nothing will ever top that scene
everyone arguing if it was the right accent or emotion when they say dracarys, but is just for the tv shows... in the books, Dracarys is not a word that every Targaryen used to command their dragons. It was a word specifically chosen by Daenerys to train her dragons...It means ‘dragonfire’ in High Valyrian. No other Targaryen has used dracarys...🤷🏽♂️ Love both tv shows thoo😁😅🤗
Simply because Rhynaera's Dracarys has a specific accent that matches with the agenda while Daenarys' Dracarys is more like neutral. I have no idea how to write their names so I don't even know if I'm wrong or right 🙃
When Dany sayin that it's like he is connected with dragon and like part of her feelings...and when rhaenrya said it's more like commander pass the sentence.. i like rhaenrya more
I feel like they added "Dracarys" on the new show only to build a bridge to GOT. In the source material Daenerys comes up with "dracarys" on her own simply because it means "fire". It's not a word that was commonly used by dragonriders. As a matter of fact, the source material also says dragonriders used whips to control the dragons, very much like horses.
Actually yes. The dragon lords used whips and magical horns to bind/command dragons. Dany tried it first but realized she doesn't have too. I gues because the dragons are bound to her by blood magic.
I like Dany's dracarys but you can clearly hear her UK accent in that but rhaenyra's dracarys clearly has the old valyrian touch and I like it more, its really good.
@GJ I can only imagine it as a fan and I have seen other game of thrones characters speak it, who sound more realistic but Dany's UK accent leaks out sometimes. Hope this helps.
@GJ I mean you have to be a next level weirdo to be arguing about "MY VERY OWN" preference of dracarys over the other, Milly's accent makes her sound anicent and valyria is a fantasy ancient language that's why I like it more. Yes she is Aussie but I like her accent's mixture with valyria more than Dany's UK accent, got any problem with that ? As a fan I can imagine the things I want and I shared my opinion about it. It is a simple opinion I shared without the intent of having any sort of debate but here you people are. Go touch some grass. smh
Interesting how original Thrones watchers associate the word with a triumphant feeling, but in HotD the word is spoken in a situation thick with grief.
The subtlety in their accent is so superb. Daenerys always says dracarys with a common tongue accent because in her times High Valyrian was near to being lost. In Rhaenyra and others their dracarys carry a High Valyrian accent because it was still spoken amongst the nobles of House Targaryen.
Rhaneyra is just...so beautiful i don't even know her accent is amazing and she is nails the Valyrian look accent and she is just like her from the book
It doesn't matter if you prefer Daenerys or Raenyra, Misandei's "Dracarys" before its execution is light years away from all the Dracarys we hear in the series.
Everyone talking about how different the actual word sounds (intent/feeling, not pronunciation)…. These are two completely different instances of when it’s being said. They pronounce it differently, of course, but Dany is being sinister and taking an army… Rhae is delivering an order at a funeral. It’s really not comparable in THAT way.
idk why people keep comparing this. dany only used dracarys as a threat, as an attack, as a weapon, as the mad queen she was. Rhaenyra used it during a Targaryen funeral. massive difference. it's just the same word, not the same action.
I feel like, other then the context, the biggest difference between the two is the amount of respect that they give to their dragons. Daenerys it has always felt to me doesn't give her dragons any more respect then you would give to a family pet. You may love the animal, but at the end of the day it's still just an animal in your mind. Rhaenyra it feels like gives Syrax more respect and care. I can't help but liken her treatment more to how the dragons are treated in the Inheritance Cycle. More like self aware beings then animals. And that could, and probably definitely is, a result of her having been raised around the dragons as a Targaryean
WTF? If anything Daenerys has a deeper connection to her dragons than Rhaenyra. I am not hating on Rhaenyra nor am I implying her connection to Syrax is weak. I think she is amazing. But Dany stepped in a pyre to burn those dead eggs to life. That is why she is 'The Mother of Dragons.' Those are her children. The only children she'll ever have. Where on earth have you gotten this conclusion? Please enlighten me Kaitlyn.
@@edgarallanhoe1251 rheanyra and syrax bond is much more powerful than the way you described. The season 1 final with Syrax reacting to rheanyra miscarriage proved their strong connection
1. Milly Alcock holds the title for best sounding dracarys (laena's death wish is close). 2. I love Syrax's reaction here lmaoooo she's like "girl... that your mom... you sure...? ok i guess"
I’m looking forward to comparing them speaking Valyrian in full sentences/conversations so we can break down the differences in their accents, it’s harder to do with just one phrase
Both were good, but the reason behind their action is different. Daenery's use of dracarys was to show power, Rhaenyra, on the other hand was a way of grieving her mother and brothers death. But I can also say that Rhaenyra saying dracarys, was able to show emotionally strong she is for stepping up.
Idk what yall are blabbering about. Daenerys has a Tyroshi Valyrian accent since she grew up around the Free Cities of Essos. That's also why she says "iskos daor" instead of "iksos daor" in her speech. It's a dialect. Rhaenyra grew up in the Red Keep of King's Landing with the Maesters trained in the art of High Valyrian and was taught the alphabets of said language.
Who care how or with what flair of accent it’s said ?? It’s all about the fact that as soon as it’s said .. here comes the Dragon fire. My favorite part is the sound the dragons make just after it’s said and just before they blow fire 🔥 on everyone! That is the best part. Daeny is my Queen and always will be , D&D did her dirty 🤬 So far I’m liking Rhaenrya too. And absolutely Love ❤️ Deamon !!
Good catch! I never really noticed, but the dragons show a definite and consistent expression/change in demeanor upon hearing the command; like they take a moment to process what they’ve heard before summoning the fire. Nice attention to detail by the animators.
I love Dany Targerian ❤️ and Dracarys ❤️ I missed her character so much 💞 nobody can defeat Dany, and Rharnyra dracarys like , Frances says tracarys , don't like it
I like how Rhaenyra talking about "I'm not a male" "I'll never be a son" "I'm a girl" never sounds like, "Ermergerd this world is so oppressive" and instead sounds like all she wants is the love and respect of her father while also wanting to explore and see the world.
Just the characters facing yhe realities of their time period. There can absolutely be a critique of the norms and characters who go against it, and that's the way to do it, not whatever rings of power is doing.
her character in the show is so tragic too. in the books, she's more entitled in the way that she's always had certain rights as a princess and those are being taken away w/out her consent. but in the show, she's probably just trying to follow the song of ice and fire because it's the first time she's felt important to her father.
Rhaenyra’s Dracarys has a more "European" tone, which makes it a bit more "authentic". Not that Daenery's is bad but its like you give a non-English word to an American to pronounce.
Those who are saying Rhaenyra's Valyrian is better accented than Dany's, here is my question, what exactly is a good/correct Valyrian accent? It's not as if it is an actual language and you can compare. And HotD is the show where we are hearing so much Valyrian for the first time. So how can you say something is better if there is nothing to compare it with?
Daenerys sounds like an English speaker trying to sound ancient while Rhaenyra (or Millie) sounds like she’s speaking language of the gods. People only favor Daenerys because they saw her first on GoT. People like what’s familiar.
@@abandonallhope.1040 I'm not saying I like the one or the other. I'm just saying that we can't really decide which one is the correct accent based on the information we have. No data available to compare. Hope you're getting what I'm trying to say. Rhaenyra's accent sounds better to the ears, but we can't decide if it's the correct accent.
@@ashishkumarpatra7156 Rhaenyra is speaking a more authentic dialect simply because she was raised by a Valyrian family while Daenerys had to learn her Valyrian elsewhere. We don’t need “data.” We can infer whose accent is more authentic by virtue of how each character grew up.
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I think it could speak to the fact that Rhaenyra grew up in a Targaryen house with the proper training and education while Daenerys grew up in exile with the lack of a strong Valyrian influence.
She grew up in exile in Essos where the common tongue was Low Valyrian and each City State probably had it's own dialect. Braavosi, Pentosii, Meerenese. High Valyrian died out with the fall of Valyria the way Latin fell out of favor after the fall of Roman influence. It seems as if Dany was fluent in Low Valyrian and Westerosi common tongue as well.
@@sanseiryu perfect explanation! thanks!
Nah I think its just the actors
@@ericroland4956 according to the people who work on the show, the pronunciation is different on purpose for the reasons the OP stated.
Finally someone with common sense.
With so many Targaryens alive and interacting in House of the Dragon it really shows that Valyrian was thriving language.
True just like the fact that the throne is in king’s landing and the king sits on the throne because he is the king
The Valyrians were not just thriving. They were the world power before the doom.
Andddd...they were black, lol
"thriving"
Meaning that no more than some 100 speakers spoke it on daily basis?
My dear summer child, that not what Thriving means. That's what Dying and surging is.
It's like stating that Latin is a thriving language because there are many who can speak it today.... It's not
@@xxxXXXCH04XXXxxx Only those of lower Valiria which were assimilated aster they were conquered by valirians...
These comparison games in the comments are stupid. First of all, Rhaenyra says it with grief. Daenerys says it with contemptuous strength. These are two different attitudes that affect the tone of the word being spoken. Furthermore, Rhaenyra has been literally raised with her culture somewhat intact. When you hear Rhaenyra speak High Valyrian, she is speaking it with the correct accent unlike Daenerys. Daenerys has had nobody to teach her proper High Valyrian, which is why she speaks it with a Tyroshi accent. She even fails to understand some sentences in it which is why Missandei is her scribe/translator. I love them both but please stop with the misinformation. We have yet to hear Rhaenyra say Dracarys in battle!
I agree. I remember that scene when Missandei corrects Daenerys with the Prince or “Princess” that was promised.
Aulas 👏🏿👏🏿
Good analysis.
There's no way of knowing the "correct accent" tho. The language doesnt exist
@@Grobb243 actually now it exists, the actors speak it
Danny's accent has been neutral since she speaks different languages. Rhaenyra's is of old-valyria hence her beautiful valyrian accent. I love hearing the contrast from both of them. I do prefer rhaenyra's.
Thats amazing. I'm sure the actors did expect this evaluation themselves...coz Old Valyrian accent is afterall fictitious
For me it's hard to choose cause their both so different in the way they speak it.
@@Hwoman1123 and still, you can see them speak it in the show lol
How do you even know the correct accent on a language that doesn't exist
@@Hwoman1123 uhm, yes, it is fictitious and we all know that. So what's eating you?
I love the way Rhaenyra says it with the tongue roll!
Me too. 😊
Fr
Rhaenyra is mourning.
Daenerys was insulted.
Rhaenyra: Let's get this over and done with.
Daenerys: Let me introduce myself Beeyatch!
Love both though.
U described it perfectly!
Also there are just differences in speech between individuals, even ones who are from the same place and speak the same language. The actors themselves won’t sound the same speaking English, let alone High Valeryian.
How did you get 1.1k likes for such an idiotic comment. What is cool about saying beeyatch like an idiot?
@@saeedvazirian I am so sorry for your sad life.
Love Rhaenyra's dracarys , it has more Valyrian accent to it and has more commending tone
oh. expert in valyrian accents are we?
@@onlyaraku
Yeah I am. Studied it since I was a wee lad.
lmfao that doesn't sound very commending
You evolved backward
@@onlyaraku yes master yod
I like both. Daenerys’s Dracarys was filled with rage and power at the idea of a low born slaver talking down to a Targaryen, as well as the idea that she would allow anyone to take her dragons away from her. While Rhaenyra was filled with rage and sadness at the loss of her mother and brother. Both carried weight and purpose, and both represented strong women who were actually able to be somewhat vulnerable but strong at the same time.
I love your analysis.
Well Said
daenerys wouldn't care that someone is low born, she had freed slaves as her friends and advisors
And they obviously had different accents. It's been 173 years
yet they need a dragon do to the work for them. The shows and books are bullshit
0:23 Sounds like my friend when he threw up after 2 bottles of vodka.
Rhaenrya was also very emotional at this point. I'm sure we'll get much more badass Dracarys commands from her in future episodes.
Well
Mvm
Both sound good and we have to remember there is almost 200 years difference so the sound of language changes over time and they are different people not representing the same person.
I was suprised when i heard Rhaenyra say it cuz i was half expecting the show to just copy paste Dany over her but glad they didnt.
I agree. Language changes a whole lot between decades let alone a few centuries. I’m also glad that Rhaenyra is different from Dany even in small ways like their accents. Rhaenyra’s ancestral ties are much closer to Valeria than Dany’s, so of course the way she speaks the language will be slightly different in some ways. She was also surrounded by several people with High Valerian as their mother tongue when Dany had maybe 1 or 2 people who spoke it with her as a child.
It's not because it changed....it's because Dany doesn't know what Valyrian actually sounds like!! She has no one to teach her
They both did it amazing in different ways under different circumstances but still really awesome that I still get goosebumps every time! The only word I can speak and remember in these dragon vids😜
I wish we get a series or a movie about old Valyria 😭
eveyryone will be black and gay and you will pretend to like it
Too many dragons and majestic architecture and magic. They can't make it 😂😂😂
@happilyevernever4289 it’s hard enough for them to manage to budget for 10-15 dragons so showing valyria in live action would be insanely pricey
My goodness, the budget to make that work would be insane
I like the fact that Rhaenyra's one sounds ""weak". She is in grief, it's like when you want to cry but still holding and trying to talk normally.
Rhaenyra looks like a dragon.
@Someguy136 that's not a diss or a bad thing. I like it
I knew I wasn't crazy....
That Daenerys scene still give me chills and I actually love how different she sound compare to the HotD Targaryen. Great details to show the difference between a Targaryen Princess in exile and one who grew up surrounded by her people culture.
Still my #1 Dracarys moment btw
Rhaenyra's was much better.
Ikr also even if Rhaenyra say it properly Dany one still the best moment imo
i could listen to Rhaenyra’s Dracarys all day
I love how Syrax was like "uuuuh nooo okaaaay🥲"
Love Dany, but something about the way Rhaenyra speaks Valyrian is so powerful. Gonna give it to her.
0 power behinde her words lol
@@timorcohen4641 lol no
@@timorcohen4641 ok
I really don’t understand why so many are praising Rhae’s version as if it was impactful or strong. Khaleesi had the real strength and power.
YEAH
It will be interesting to see the differences between Millie and Emma on their Valyrian accents.
In the overall story Rhaenyra is technically Daenerys' ancestor. and in her time it was the height of power of the house Targaryen where their power, culture and customs are felt everywhere. So for sure she speaks the language correctly and pronounced it correctly as well. unlike in Daenerys' time where the house Targaryen is extinct. she grew up in exile and no one taught her her family's traditions, customs and language. All she knows about her family and ancestors are what the general public knows as well. she really didnt get to know first had insights and such. So I really appreciate the difference. it doesn't mean that Daenerys' "Dracarys" is ugly and Rhaenyra's correct or vice versa. it kind of shows only how is the house Targaryen during their times.
Danny is the main reason why show about Targaryens exist
Bruh forgot to understand the context of this comment. Improve your reading comprehension lol @@zenitsu1909
Daenarys kept changing the way she said it throught the show.
I agree. This was her best “Dracarys” all throught put the show. Others sounded like “Druhcuhrhys” like bruh! Hahaha
@@kimochino9047 🤣 totally!
I think it makes sense and I like the change between Rhaenyra and Danny. On one side it shows the changes in the language over generations and on the other Valyrian is considered a mostly dead language even during Rhaenyras time, by the time Daenerys learned it there was no one to teach her proper Valyrian and her pronounciations are "tainted" by her dominant language, "the common" in the show, aka english.
It made no sense. By the end… it was American. With?!
@@NeverEverAlexEver I don't know what language is American
I wish Dany had said 'dracarys' like this more often. This was the only time she really put the Valyrian accent on it.
Rhaenyra Has A More Commanding Tone.
I agree ☝️
And given the fact that she grew up surrounded by targaryen family members who spoke valyrian, her accent is more accurate than Dany’s.
Stop lying 😭😭😭. It was so weak with 0 emotions
@@timorcohen4641 under Rhaenyra’s circumstances. Her tone was fitting. She lost her mother and brother. Her father does not talk to her because he was grieving.
Plus this is 172 years earlier than GoT so it seems like this is how High Valyrian sounds like.
Danys tone was appropriate for those badass scenes, she had to come off sounding powerful and intimidating to progress in her dragon girl power domination, Whereas Rhaenyra is talking in a casual collected tone amongst family and diplomats, she is being cautious and seeing how things play out before she makes her move. they're both great.
Daenerys will always be the best SO EPIC! 😩😍 I love her! But I’m excited for Rhaenyra too!
She’s my favorite character too. I’m glad they are focusing on Daenerys Targaryen’s bloodline. Lots of white hair hehe 😉
Give cersei 3 dragons and an army and she'll take the throne in 7 days max, no need to slaughter nobles and masters for fun
@@ttts3400 Lol, Cersei is not that smart, even Tywin noticed that.
@@Leo-nc3yx u don't really need to be smart to take the throne with dragons,all u need to be is evil and she was full of that
@@eiyp3 evil and smart are two different things. To take the throne with her evil is one thing, to rule it with brains is not her
Rhaenyra’s sounds like she just wants it to be over because it hurts. I probably sounded the same when I spoke my eulogy for my father’s funeral
really love Rhaenyra accent, it feel painful.....
it is painful.
@@kamal_fahmi I agree. She mourns and it pains her, while Daenerys feels anger.
@@kimochino9047 indeed, it hurt so much she even almost can't say it first time she open her mouth
@@kimochino9047 totally agree, the situations are different... I love both of them.
Man they did well with the casting of Rhaenyra. She actually looks like she'd be Daenerys's ancestor because the resemblance is striking.
PS: I know that's bound to happen after generations of incest but still.
I love both because both of their Valyrian accents are quite good. Objectively speaking though, Rhaenyra sounds more fluent with her accent throughout the show.
(I really like how the dragonkeepers sound too!)
Can’t wait to hear Matt Smith and others say it.
I know the Valyrian language in House of the Dragon will be more accurate because of GRRM and David J. Peterson involvement with the show.
I love how young Rhaenyra said dracarys here the way she rolls the rrccccaa
Daenerys, for me, will always be the face of Game of Thrones. She's so iconic.
Maybe Rhaenyra will become the face of HOTD
She rly is
For me it’s definitely Jon snow
@Someguy136 exactly. she was an interesting character, but there were so many incredible characters with better layers and more remarkable in mind and talent and character development. she is the fan favorite bc she's cool and has a cool dragon aesthetic and is beautiful. but she had no proper political mind and only got far due to her dragons and advisors. i am actually enjoying the targaryens more now that this show is out though
She had a good character development. She went from a harmless young woman to the most feared and merciless person in Westeros.
Daenerys canonically has Tyroshi accent, which makes sense since she was living in Free Cities for her whole life. And since she also stayed in Tyrosh, it makes sense that she adapted their accent. Also, the only person who taught Dany High Valyrian & B*st*rd Valyrian languages was Viserys. But Viserys left King's Landing when he was only 8 and his mother dies shortly after. Which is why he probably didn't have a chance to learn these languages properly, and therefore couldn't teach Dany entirely either.
Rhaenyra, on the other hand, grew up with Valyrian people. Her father, her uncle, her mother (Emma's mother is also a Targaryen), her cousins... So it's easier for her to speak with the Valyrian accent. And since she had more sources, she'd easily learn Valyrian languages too.
Everyone: *arguing about who did it better*
Me: "the dragons are soooo cool!"
I love this so much, it was such a small touch but i noticed it instantly. The attention to detail in how a language would evolve, have old/new dialects and be influenced by the languages around them is amazing. Let's not forget how english has evolved just within the past 80 years.
Game of Thrones is one of those franchises that makes me interested in learning a fictional language.
I love Rhaenyra bec it’s more traditional Valyrian (I can’t wait to see her use it in a battle sense and not just lighting pyre of her mother) but Daenerys is just ICONIC and so badass and so perfect nothing will ever top that scene
Laenor literally lighting up the crabfeeder's men blows daenerys out of the water.
everyone arguing if it was the right accent or emotion when they say dracarys, but is just for the tv shows... in the books, Dracarys is not a word that every Targaryen used to command their dragons. It was a word specifically chosen by Daenerys to train her dragons...It means ‘dragonfire’ in High Valyrian. No other Targaryen has used dracarys...🤷🏽♂️
Love both tv shows thoo😁😅🤗
Quite Interesting that many people know how the accent of Valyrian sounds like.
They’re full of shit
One was power, the other was pain
People saying her Dracarys has more Valyrian accent as if they knew the language lol I can't with you all
You don’t know the language either so how would you know it doesn’t?
@@abandonallhope.1040 Okay and as they stated how would you know it does sound like Valyrian? That’s a silly rebuttal 😂
Simply because Rhynaera's Dracarys has a specific accent that matches with the agenda while Daenarys' Dracarys is more like neutral.
I have no idea how to write their names so I don't even know if I'm wrong or right 🙃
Welp...regardless of how either of em said it...the dragons sure as heck understood the assignment 😂
I was introduced to Daenerys first so i am stuck on her❤❤❤
When Dany sayin that it's like he is connected with dragon and like part of her feelings...and when rhaenrya said it's more like commander pass the sentence.. i like rhaenrya more
The way Rhaenyra said Dracarys is so bad ass and unique
Old is gold 🙂
This is 200 years before so ofcourse she says it with more of the accent. Which I loved 🥰
I don't know about Rhaenyra, but Daenerys's part is the best moment in the whole GOT , it's phenomenal, it's unforgettable 😌 it's my opinion tho))
I feel like they added "Dracarys" on the new show only to build a bridge to GOT. In the source material Daenerys comes up with "dracarys" on her own simply because it means "fire". It's not a word that was commonly used by dragonriders. As a matter of fact, the source material also says dragonriders used whips to control the dragons, very much like horses.
Actually yes. The dragon lords used whips and magical horns to bind/command dragons. Dany tried it first but realized she doesn't have too. I gues because the dragons are bound to her by blood magic.
It's because Dany's dragons were her children
I like Dany's dracarys but you can clearly hear her UK accent in that but rhaenyra's dracarys clearly has the old valyrian touch and I like it more, its really good.
@GJ I can only imagine it as a fan and I have seen other game of thrones characters speak it, who sound more realistic but Dany's UK accent leaks out sometimes.
Hope this helps.
@GJ its almost as if the creator of the language exists and knows how things were supposed to be pronounced
@GJ I mean you have to be a next level weirdo to be arguing about "MY VERY OWN" preference of dracarys over the other,
Milly's accent makes her sound anicent and valyria is a fantasy ancient language that's why I like it more. Yes she is Aussie but I like her accent's mixture with valyria more than Dany's UK accent, got any problem with that ? As a fan I can imagine the things I want and I shared my opinion about it. It is a simple opinion I shared without the intent of having any sort of debate but here you people are. Go touch some grass. smh
I am from Poland and here we would say dracarys with the same accent as Rhaenyra said it.
Wow Daenerys was so beautiful. Why didn't the producers cast someone as beautiful as her?
Sorry for saying it.
Interesting how original Thrones watchers associate the word with a triumphant feeling, but in HotD the word is spoken in a situation thick with grief.
The subtlety in their accent is so superb. Daenerys always says dracarys with a common tongue accent because in her times High Valyrian was near to being lost. In Rhaenyra and others their dracarys carry a High Valyrian accent because it was still spoken amongst the nobles of House Targaryen.
Rhaneyra is just...so beautiful i don't even know her accent is amazing and she is nails the Valyrian look accent and she is just like her from the book
It doesn't matter if you prefer Daenerys or Raenyra, Misandei's "Dracarys" before its execution is light years away from all the Dracarys we hear in the series.
Rhaenyra’s accent is way better but that Daenerys scene is way more badass!! Give me goosebumps everytime I see it!
I love how Rhyns dragon sounds sad
Everyone talking about how different the actual word sounds (intent/feeling, not pronunciation)…. These are two completely different instances of when it’s being said. They pronounce it differently, of course, but Dany is being sinister and taking an army… Rhae is delivering an order at a funeral. It’s really not comparable in THAT way.
Rhaenyra's accent is spetacular 🖤❤
I see power in both of them. Also Rhaenyra's context was very different.
idk why people keep comparing this.
dany only used dracarys as a threat, as an attack, as a weapon, as the mad queen she was.
Rhaenyra used it during a Targaryen funeral.
massive difference.
it's just the same word, not the same action.
love Rhaenyra's Valyrian accent
Both are bad ass women persononified by GRRM and HBO.
Milly made her character epic on the second episode.
Rhanenyra is so beautiful
Daeneryas ❤️
I feel like, other then the context, the biggest difference between the two is the amount of respect that they give to their dragons. Daenerys it has always felt to me doesn't give her dragons any more respect then you would give to a family pet. You may love the animal, but at the end of the day it's still just an animal in your mind. Rhaenyra it feels like gives Syrax more respect and care. I can't help but liken her treatment more to how the dragons are treated in the Inheritance Cycle. More like self aware beings then animals. And that could, and probably definitely is, a result of her having been raised around the dragons as a Targaryean
Family pets are children. 😡
WTF? If anything Daenerys has a deeper connection to her dragons than Rhaenyra. I am not hating on Rhaenyra nor am I implying her connection to Syrax is weak. I think she is amazing. But Dany stepped in a pyre to burn those dead eggs to life. That is why she is 'The Mother of Dragons.' Those are her children. The only children she'll ever have. Where on earth have you gotten this conclusion? Please enlighten me Kaitlyn.
@@edgarallanhoe1251 rheanyra and syrax bond is much more powerful than the way you described. The season 1 final with Syrax reacting to rheanyra miscarriage proved their strong connection
Rhaenyra has the native Valerian accent, and it's very beautiful.
1. Milly Alcock holds the title for best sounding dracarys (laena's death wish is close).
2. I love Syrax's reaction here lmaoooo she's like "girl... that your mom... you sure...? ok i guess"
I’m looking forward to comparing them speaking Valyrian in full sentences/conversations so we can break down the differences in their accents, it’s harder to do with just one phrase
The small girl killed it. ❤️👌
Both were good, but the reason behind their action is different.
Daenery's use of dracarys was to show power, Rhaenyra, on the other hand was a way of grieving her mother and brothers death.
But I can also say that Rhaenyra saying dracarys, was able to show emotionally strong she is for stepping up.
Idk what yall are blabbering about. Daenerys has a Tyroshi Valyrian accent since she grew up around the Free Cities of Essos. That's also why she says "iskos daor" instead of "iksos daor" in her speech. It's a dialect. Rhaenyra grew up in the Red Keep of King's Landing with the Maesters trained in the art of High Valyrian and was taught the alphabets of said language.
I'm so bummed out that there are two actors playing rhaenerya meaning we gonna time jump. i wish we could see her grow up naturally per season
Agreed. I wonder how they will go about the time jump
Two different emotions, two different situations. Love them both.
Rhae speaks pure Old Valyrian
Both are amazing
My favourite house Targaryen #fireandblood #dracarys #housetargaryen
Danny's more like "kill them"
while Rhaenyra's more like "light the stove"
Who care how or with what flair of accent it’s said ?? It’s all about the fact that as soon as it’s said .. here comes the Dragon fire. My favorite part is the sound the dragons make just after it’s said and just before they blow fire 🔥 on everyone! That is the best part. Daeny is my Queen and always will be , D&D did her dirty 🤬 So far I’m liking Rhaenrya too. And absolutely Love ❤️ Deamon !!
Good catch! I never really noticed, but the dragons show a definite and consistent expression/change in demeanor upon hearing the command; like they take a moment to process what they’ve heard before summoning the fire. Nice attention to detail by the animators.
Both are badass af
Dont worry ya. Rhaenyra will be saying this way more as the show goes on. More comparison shots. lol
idk why she stopped rolling her R's in the later seasons, its sounds so good with the accent
I love Dany Targerian ❤️ and Dracarys ❤️ I missed her character so much 💞 nobody can defeat Dany, and Rharnyra dracarys like , Frances says tracarys , don't like it
Rhyanera's is def better!
Drogon: *killed a slaver when was a little boy.
Syrax: *made a tribute to her master’s mother and brother.
I like how Rhaenyra talking about "I'm not a male" "I'll never be a son" "I'm a girl" never sounds like, "Ermergerd this world is so oppressive" and instead sounds like all she wants is the love and respect of her father while also wanting to explore and see the world.
Just the characters facing yhe realities of their time period. There can absolutely be a critique of the norms and characters who go against it, and that's the way to do it, not whatever rings of power is doing.
@@dihydrogenmonoxide7600 Exactly
her character in the show is so tragic too. in the books, she's more entitled in the way that she's always had certain rights as a princess and those are being taken away w/out her consent. but in the show, she's probably just trying to follow the song of ice and fire because it's the first time she's felt important to her father.
lmao these valyrian language experts in the coments made my day
Rhaenyra's a better actress
DAENERYS: Becomes a queen from 0.
Rhaenyra: DADDY HELP ME
Rheanyra fight till death for the throne same as dany
Her dad died before she took the throne and he only fight to reminds everyone that she is heirs
Rhaenyra's was good but Dany one will always be iconic
I always thought Dracarys was a random word Dany chose while instructing the dragons to breathe fire .
i love the fact that everyone here is expert in a made-up Valyrian language
One scene was in a funeral, other one was in a powerfull punishment scene. How can we compare them ?
Rhaenyra’s Dracarys has a more "European" tone, which makes it a bit more "authentic".
Not that Daenery's is bad but its like you give a non-English word to an American to pronounce.
Emilia Clarke is not American..
@@sythal5985 I am not saying shes American but she had the accent. I mean i wouldnt notice shes British through the series.
they were both perfect in tone for the scene they were in
They both sound great, although I prefer Danny’s, the power in it was amazing and it sounds like she wasn’t trying too hard, it just flowed out.
Gotta love how casual the Targaeryans are about their dragons. Like it's just an everyday thing for them.
They are not targaeryans tho
Those who are saying Rhaenyra's Valyrian is better accented than Dany's, here is my question, what exactly is a good/correct Valyrian accent? It's not as if it is an actual language and you can compare. And HotD is the show where we are hearing so much Valyrian for the first time. So how can you say something is better if there is nothing to compare it with?
Daenerys sounds like an English speaker trying to sound ancient while Rhaenyra (or Millie) sounds like she’s speaking language of the gods. People only favor Daenerys because they saw her first on GoT. People like what’s familiar.
@@abandonallhope.1040 I'm not saying I like the one or the other. I'm just saying that we can't really decide which one is the correct accent based on the information we have. No data available to compare. Hope you're getting what I'm trying to say. Rhaenyra's accent sounds better to the ears, but we can't decide if it's the correct accent.
@@ashishkumarpatra7156 Rhaenyra is speaking a more authentic dialect simply because she was raised by a Valyrian family while Daenerys had to learn her Valyrian elsewhere. We don’t need “data.” We can infer whose accent is more authentic by virtue of how each character grew up.
I don’t have to be a French to be able to distinguish between a native french speaker or a foreigner who can speak french.
Bro it's obvious, Dany has a common tongue (English) accent,and rhaneyra's is far from English accent,so it must be high valyrian's.
Rhaenyra 😍