Culture Wars: Why book bans are trending in the US | DW News
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- It’s a growing battlefield in America’s culture wars: education. A conservative-led movement is cracking down on what is taught in schools, and in a crucial election year, that has put books, schools, and libraries in the line of fire.
The country has witnessed a surge in challenges to books and teaching materials in schools and libraries across the US. According to PEN America (an organization campaigning for freedom of expression), there were 1586 book bans in schools over the past between July 1, 2021 and March 31 of this year. More than 40 percent of those books had main characters who are people of color, and more than 30 percent featured LGBTQ themes.
Conservatives are decrying the teaching of what they deem divisive and age-inappropriate content like racism, gender, and LGBTQ themes in public education. Their opponents argue this movement to ban books is an attempt to
At its core, the movement to ban books is part of a larger ideological conflict, pitting conservatives against the left-wing in America, that came to the fore after the election of Donald Trump in 2016. The battle over education highlights how politicization and polarization have reached the very center of American society.
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In Croatia, during first year of high school, we had a lecture dedicated to Holocaust. There they played real footage, and a Holocaust survivor was kind enough to come to this lecture and share his experiences with us. I personally cried seeing all those atrocities but never have I wished I hadn't seen it, nor has it affected me negatively in any way. Showing the raw truth is the only way we can truly learn from history.
Do they also teach 'Genocide of Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia'?
@@nayaung7106 Don't be obnoxious.
They do same here in Italy, schools organize journeys to Auschwitz for the young students.
@@nayaung7106 Honestly, I don't remember the contents of my history book. I can let you know if I find my old book, or if I get my hands on a new, currently used history book. If you're REALLY interested to know, you can buy the books online and use translation software if you don't speak the language.
watch EUROPA THE LAST BATTLE
Germany has proven that it is good to teach children the bad parts of history, this makes people more compassionate and helps avoid creating other historical monsters of society.
Really. so when the wall came down there was no difference between West German and East German people in regard to how they treat each other. REALLY?
The story isn't about not teaching the bad parts of history... that is not what this story is about!!!
@@Spearca "Learning history is exactly what they want to suppress" - COMPLETE NONSENSE!!!
as a german I can tell you that not teaching our kids german history would be straight up fascism.
@@covertpuppytwo3857
This story is truly about that. Are you so racist that you can't handle your children growing up to be compassionate and loving, or at least tolerant and empathetic?
Leaves kids feeling bad...that is empathy..that is important to experience
Also not all kids will feel bad some would be amazed and grateful of how things could be much worse and as they grow they’ll learn that all good things came from struggles.
Yeah you can't be having consciousness in a tyranny
I'd rather feel bad about the truth then be a person thinking this world is perfect because I didn't learn the truth.
@@razzberytman😉
Any time a book gets banned - that’s my first must read. Thanks for helping me update my reading list. Anytime information of any kind is banned I wonder ? We all should.
You don’t want to read those books waste of time
@@jakeg3126 how do you know if you haven’t read them ? Don’t let someone else tell you what you should read or think. Decide for yourself
That’s exactly what brought me here..
@@bee4472 Well, which ones? I had to go over parts of a bunch of books when I was in my college education classes. I also think purpose of school is telling people what books to read and how to think. Thats why books that include sex topics and race problems have been kicked out of curriculum for whatever reason, and now they are just adding stuff because they want to uncensor all topics that were supposed to be censored for decades.
I ended up switching and graduating in American Studies. This doesn't have any of the good books that are being banned. You got "Lawn Boy", talks about homo sex, "Gender-Queer" has drawings. etc.. "this book is gay"
@@jakeg3126 I haven’t looked up any of those, but do just want to see if they are as bad as we are told. I want to see the race related ones that the liberals are pushing all while saying if your not white you can’t be racist…. All while being more racist than anyone else in the country. There a banned book website. I M going to look up the ones you mentioned now though.
"Where they burn books, they will ultimately burn people also." -Heinrich Heine
nobody burned books lol they're also not fully banned, just in the schools.
@@doom9603 They arent banned at all. This is liberal double speak. Parents dont want their kids being exposed to liberal perversion in schools.
@@edwelndiobel1567 ) "perversions"?
Doom isn’t the brightest bulb 💡 in the kitchen…. He didn’t get the main idea of the quote.
@@doom9603currently they're only banned in schools, but banning them in entire states would be the same as burning them (which is a symbolic act). So we haven't quite reached that stage yet, but it might happen soon
History is cyclic. Moral panics have been a unique feature of American life, from comic books in the 50s, to rock and certain board games in the 70s, to pop and hip hop in the 80s... The issue has been blown out of proportion because the Right realized that it is a way to energize its base and win political seats at the local level.
Excellent point.
The right loves book banning, especially the far right.
Well said!! 👏🏽
If you feel like what you're trying to teach children is threatened by other perspectives and ideas, then maybe your position isn't as rock solid as you'd like it to be.
You can ban all the books you want to. You can try to limit internet access. But it's a losing battle.
I was under the impression that conservative, white Americans were preoccupied with protecting "freedom of speech".
It seems not to be the case...at least when it comes to books that might get under their thin skin.
Free speech is not applicable when youre talking about what government will require your kids to learn. For example, you cant force american kids to learn the Bible at school.
I knew we were in trouble when Texas mandated a change in their history books that referred to slavery as "trilateral trade" and then put out the official GOP party platform in 2012 that came out against teaching "Higher-Ordered Thinking Skills." They wanted to get away from teaching critical thinking because it might conflict with preconceived beliefs.
Their freedom. If you say otherwise then is not freedom of speech.
Nonsensical.
We must learn from the injustice, intolerance and brutality of the past in order to instill values of tolerance, compassion and pluralism for future generations.
That's not the point of the white privilege movement. They want to make us white people feel guilty and themselves feel hate against us.
nope, its about which group who owes what to another group. its what the left does.
Inconsequential agendas. If books could be hurting children's feelings, what about guns?
Ban books but not guns.
@@pansepot1490 when was the last time a book fired very real bullets that killed children?
Good, thick books have been known to stop bullets.
The books can't, but if they're loaded with ideology by the white privilege movement, then they will divide the society even more. People shouldn't think about their color, because the "color" doesn't matter. Telling people that they should fear the other colors, because of non-sense that's hurting people. That's what those bans are about.
@@doom9603 Honey, nobody told me I had to fear White people. We all learn that the hard way.
Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it... Some events in history are difficult to be confronted with but it's important to learn a about a wide range of things so that we can better evaluate the world around us and make better decisions.
Also how is it possible for a book to give an overly rough depiction of the holocaust? It was such an extreme event that even the most graphical and explicit depictions are very mild compared to the actual reality of being a victim of that.
Good advice to an 8-year-old, yeah, right. Children between 3-12 are best served not by "history lessons", but exercising the developmental stages necessary for maturation. The goal should be to successfully maturate children, not indoctrinate them into ideology. Indoctrination rarely takes anyway, and that's the "history lesson" we adults should "learn" from. George Santayana was not talking to children with the quote of his you, in fact, misquoted.
@nuqwestr this is about books being prohibited from school libraries and curriculum by religious white ultra conservative parents. Besides there's nothing wrong about teaching one's history and culture, it all depends how it's thought.
You haven't understood a thing.
@@nuqwestr what about the children fron ages 12-18? clearly there’s no moral reason to deny them the truth of our history? they’re past the “age of maturation”. i’m sure they can handle difficult history
@@babs_babs you are thinking this wrong. It's not about logic not the kids. It's about hiding the fact that their grandpas were the "bad guys".
So much for conservatives being pro free speech lmao
You've got it backwards, the mark of a true progressive.
One recurring pattern: The attitude of mass movements, both right _and_ left, of "free speech for me but not for thee".
@@nuqwestr Delusional cope
@@nuqwestr I'm gonna hold a communist rally in your town and see what happens. That'll test your "free speech beliefs". Lol!!!
They never were, only use it as an excuse those terrorist don’t even care about the rules of law.
SO FOR FEELINGS WITH SHOULD LIE TO CHILDREN? CENSOR HISTORY?
As it has always been. Flavouring the agenda.
They will produce the opposite effect of "forbidden fruit". In my country there was rather popular novel that was banned in the past for political reasons (now it's not) and - everyone read it.
I wonder how well this curriculum covers the government’s treatment of Native Indians and all the treaties that were broken.
They would van that too. Because it hurts there feelings.
It doesn't.
My God... Idiocracy is becoming a reality O.o
I blame Christianity
@@A3Kr0n If you only blame Christianity, there'll be a lot of ignorance slipping through the cracks in your system of thought.
@@A3Kr0n of course.
@@A3Kr0n I blame liberal politics
Liberalism is more deadly to the brain than Dementia.
“Teach history without an agenda.”
That’s literally impossible. History whether it is a primary source or secondary source is written by people. People who are influenced by their experiences, have their own biases, and have agendas to sell. Maybe it would instead be better to use history to teach discernment and critical thinking.
Guess what we're doing here in Germany? First thing you always analyze with any source, is who wrote it when for what reason and/or for whom.
"History is written by the victors" absolutely supports your comment. (The quote doesn't seem to have a known origin).
Also interesting is to look at the gaps in the taught history, it is always a shock to find a significant historical event that I have first learnt about in my 70s.
Hs
Banning a book for being an overly rough depiction of the holocaust? Now say that out loud, slowly.
I'd say may the lord have mercy on our souls, but I suspect he is closing his eyes from the horror that is to come. First the books, then the people.. like last time, like always.
@@billithekat1088 And the truth is that most if not all Germans approved of the holocaust and the horrors it inflicted on so many? Really? Now you sound like the liberal teachers who want to teach that lie!!! BTW... I'm a German American myself!
@@billithekat1088 I'm not sure the majority of Germans even knew about the total reality of it, until afterward. I agree with your thought, though.
@@MrJdsenior they did.
*Greetings from Germany
@@c.i.j.5457 Not good, and hey from the US. :-)
We had a few times in our history that weren't much better, maybe even worse, like with the Native Americans. Not good, either.
Have you got any idea why Germany shut down most all of it's nuclear power plants?
@@MrJdsenior risk Management, before Fukushima all disasters or accidents at nuclear power plants were in the Soviet regions or countries believed to be "not stable". However once Fukushima happened, it was clear that even in a technologically advanced demography, nuclear disasters can happen.
So after looking at the financial cost, the problem of storing nuclear waste, the risk to the public etc, it was decided that nuclear power plants are just not worth it.
Also Green Energy was starting to become a feasible option. (conservative politicians in Germany actually stopped the spread of green energy a bit after, that's how we ended up being the country most dependent on Russias energy exports 😪)
“Banned for an overly rough depiction of the holocaust”….
No words, just no words 😶
I was a child when I first watch 'life it's beautiful', I didn't even knew how to read, but my parents thought it was important that I knew that life isn't always easy or fair, but that every person has lots to learn from the past, even if it hurts. They always talked with me about the wars, like the Balkan war, or the Timor war, I would cry a lot because of that, but it's important to know, to relate to people, because there are children too in that wars, and they also have to deal with it. Now I still can relate with the message, put yourself in the other person shoes. Children are tinny humans, they understand the point of the message.
You're not responsible for what people before you did. Knowing about history is important, yes. But not ideology. If people are 14 or upwards they can step by step learn all the history. But those white privilege movement injecting a "you have to feel bad because you're xyz" - same for the LGBTQ+ ideology (the hardcore group in the group).
2:36 “Focus on the negatives”?
Was there anything positive in segregated schools and keeping children away from education?
focusing on the positives means the good that came from this change.
the positives are really quite simple to figure out.
it allowed all races to learn together in one building and learn to play and converse with other races without the bigotted parents telling them not to
@@FrickingLunatic i’m sorry. I ask again if there was anything positive ( besides the courage of that little girl and her family) in the 1960s segregated schools ? That is the context of her question that I am flabbergasted…the book focus on that period of history …
Not the after .
Well yes, Racists could forget that African Americans do exists.
Why care about the welfare of people of colour when you haven't even mastered object permanence?
Nele is geil
I don't believe for a minute that people who want to ban books really care about their children's education and social development. It is a completely self-serving movement, meant to lash out at forward-thinking people who do care about these things. Just more right vs left bs.
Yes, in 1934 Germany teachers felt the same way, teach the children "forward thinking" regardless of the parents. Perhaps that's a history you failed to read and understand. I have not.
well they care it's their values. but the problem is schools are outdated and meant to indoctrinate everyone into one system. not much room for individuals
absolutely, I gave my child the classic Communist manifesto and mein kampf, education is so important. this Christmas, I'm getting him Maos Little Red Book, and Xi Jiping Thought. He loved Kim Jon Il's book so much, and IDOLIZES Pol Pot, and education is SO IMPORTANT
@@TheLifeOfKane your kid must be very smart to read this college level abstract thought. It's not guns that kill people it's people. It's not books that harm people it's people. So congrats on your very intelligent child
@@TheLifeOfKane And so what? Now your child is prepared to be a United States Senator in the republican party. Congratulations on breeding another fascist to infiltrate the American political forum.
Hardship of someone teaches us to be more empathetic and humane. It's up to the teacher to present in a way it should be, in a way to strengthen the character.
The GOP wants ignorance and instability, a well educated public is a public capable of critical thinking, last thing that the fear mongering power grabbing GOP wants...
WAKE UP AMERICA...
Some great books have racist moments, but somehow I don't start any rants after reading them. Maybe start educating ppl in a proper way instead of coming up with twisted ideas?
We are talking about children's books being used in schools ... very young children.... and the people we need to educate are the teachers. How do you propose we teach our liberal teachers who believe that it's not only their job to teach children history but to teach them their political leanings even if those leanings are counter to the parents?
@dan mac I live in New York... a rural part of New York and my next door neighbor is junior high school teacher and has been for over 20 years... she is looking to retire soon but she tells me that she's glad to be retiring in a couple of years because how her and her fellow teachers are being BULLIED into teaching CRT!!!
Newsweek Article "Critical Race Theory Being 'Rebranded' in Schools as Workaround, Conservative Group says" dated 3/28/22 ... google the story.
From the article:
Accuracy in Media (AIM) said it found through undercover interviews in Idaho and Tennessee that school administrators had admitted to racial-oriented and other curriculum components being taught under different names. Both are Republican states where laws have been passed to prevent CRT from being a part of the curriculum.
@dan mac So I suppose when the articles were actually quoting texts from ACTUAL books being used that was opinion? Or when teachers are actually recorded talking how they still teach CRT... that was opinion? WHATEVER!!!
the consequences for having
freedom of speech, people didn't realized there is no guaranteed freedom after speech.
@@isa_L That sounds like you want to chop off someones head. Freedom of speech means that we discuss things, not that you kill me for saying anything. However, you can still object.
For all their talk of 'Freedom' and being the 'land of the free' they don't seem to have many freedoms. Not to mention the book banning is very similar to what happened in Germany in the early 1920s ( iirc the date)
18 YO can buy weapons. 👍
yes its sick
Lmao. You literally go to jail in Germany for denying the holocaust.
Ohhh....BIG subject. I will argue that the growing inequality and poverty hits the community of color the hardest. And being poor is one of the most expensive & stressful lifestyle you can imagine. Hardening social fronts among people can be blamed on educational practices & materials, that really have a minor effect on the general sentiment in society. White middle class people interpret the situation wrong. They should understand that transforming the economic situation for its poor people, and not blaming them, is the way forward. So in my eyes, Critical Race Theory is well-founded in what I see in the American society. Some interpret this current discussion as 'work harder, like we did. We were poor, too.', but they did not face police targeting, 'red lining' or the effects of poor to basic education sometimes in a reservation with no jobs, rampant substance abuse and the breakdown of community itself.
Maybe this shows the worst of America, but also the best. The willingness to confront these issues is the first step towards understanding & ultimately managing them. The underprivileged in the society need protection, regardless of color. At the core of American society is a hardworking, decent and friendly people.
The people will do what they have always done, and it will happen again. They will eventually choose what path they will follow, and I hope it will be the right way. In my mind, that way will be dialogue, social change, diminish economic inequality, grow the middle class, manage social unrest with a minimum of violence and work for systematic adaptation. Let's hope this will be true.
But on this subject (race), we should all listen to what the Germans are telling us. They were led down the wrong path. A path of destruction.
As I stated above, L'histoire se répète !
The real shift in the war that I have noticed is that the racists used to have the decency to be embarrassed about themselves, and they have somehow become proud of being racists. So sad.
You can thank trump for that.
They've always been there but over the last decade, it's become a lot worse. Starting with Obama's presidency and going into Trump's, that side has become more emboldened. There's also a lot of misinformation directed at Republican voters throughout the net. Republican leaders take advantage of their supporter's ignorance, pandering to them instead of calling out their party's gradual push toward the far right.
I have the same hatred for the open p*dophiles on the Biden Train nowadays. So sad.
@Tyler Hopkins Not easy, the laws defend them and the cops more often then not agree with them.
@@kiwibob223 I also blame Toxo.
In school we barely touched on slavery or the trail of tears and that's pretty bad considering we were smack on the land it happened on. You can have your false unity, because when people find the truth the monster you've made will be far worse. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge. And just for clarification THAT is the thing to feel sad/bad about
Sad but way more sad that they didn't teach much about the far more recent and the far greater tragedy where 100 Million mostly vwhite folk (including tens of thousands Americans) were erased from the face of the planet in Europe Circa 1916 to 1945.
I don't think you could write a book that has an overly rough depiction of the holocaust.
everytime i hear a white conservative saying that „these Books are focusing too much on the negatives of Racism i want to barf
So much for them being colour blind 😂
The U.S. of today is eerily similar to Germany of the 1930's
You clearly know nothing about Germany in the 1930s
@@user-xq4st9ie7r More like the 1920s, when the majority of the National Socialist movement was made up of teachers who wanted to separate children from the parents to create a "new" human built for the future, a future they believed in like a religion. In that way it is very much like Weimar in the late 1920s.
@@100c0c until the "special work camps" start opening up and decided "hmm, would it be great if we conquered Mexico from those brown people".
@@100c0c Prostitution the oldest trade in the world. Banned almost everywhere in the US, unless you film it, then it's legal. Such a bigoted country with the world's largest porn industry.
Best look at facts before commenting.
And soon, we'll be banning "Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer", because it's too controversial. Grow up America,...please.
Ya gotta admit, reindeer noses do not glow. :-/ :-)
@@MrJdsenior BINGO!
The important thing to remember is that all countries have a consistent 10-20% of support of totalitarianism or racism. When you have a nation where all lawmaking is bought by very non-representative minorities primarily of wealth, it opens the door for rule by incredibly extremist groups. Plus, it is intensely sad that anybody in a country with fully legalized bribery and coercion of lawmakers limited only to the most corrupt Americans manages to prioritize crusades against anything but that problem. People are easily distracted from feeding and watering their republic by emotional BS.
Curiously, that is about the same percentage as people who believe in utterly nonsensical conspiracy theories. And I'm talking UTTERLY nonsensical, like people who think the Earth is flat. GOOD LORD! I could say more but I'll leave it at that.
Where did you get that statistic?
The book banners in the US are up to 43% ... not 20%. It's not about extremism, although that created image is understandable.
@@doom9603 I've seen those air flow powered 'waving men' in used car sales parking lots, but no book banners as of yet. Am I looking in the wrong places? :-/
Democrats should just say 'assault rifles' actually refer to books that teach kids that racism is bad. Maybe the GOP will finally get on board restricting guns 🤷
What are you going to restrict next?
I swear, The United States of America is the most OBSESSED with race country in the world. Being from Europe it's so funny to watch all these "culture wars", it's like a TV show
It's a lot scarier when you live in the USA, and you're multiracial.
We were founded on race.
@@earlwallace2015 Or rather race was founded on us. First came the slaves, then came classifying human beings to make us feel better about it, less inconsistent with our ideals.
@@DoloresJNurss not at all. Race was the major doctrine of the time. Today, we just are surviving the consequences of it.
@@earlwallace2015 Yes, but it was a surprisingly new doctrine.
Those who don't know their history are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana was naïve in his view of human nature, but you have also miss-quoted him, and out of context. George also did not understand what we now do about the human brain. History does not repeat itself, but DNA does.
@@nuqwestr i didn't intentially quote anyone, but in retrospect, I think I was thinking of Churchills speech from 1948, where he himself parafrased George santayana . But never mind. I dont agree that he was entirely wrong and naive about human nature. But I might be naive too.
You know what?
At first I thought it was just due to a massive ego on their part, but maybe my ancestors were on to something when they referred to uneducated people as "barbarians".
Ok but why would a math book talk about racial prejudice? That has nothing to do with math
Math is everything around you. Prejudice included
Exactly, and the proof of the incoherence of race being imbued in everything is in the two other comments to yours. They believe abstract thought itself is normalized racism, so math needs to be purged with anti-racist ideology. It's become a religion, there's even a book out called the "antiracist baby" by Kendi. It's become an article of faith. Germans should understand the dangers of that, remembering their own history.
With statistics you can show that certain population is at a disadvantage. It is a good example of distributions.
...And this in the 'freest country in the world'. To me It seems Like banning books in that way isn't free Speach...
nobody is banning books. they're banning teaching kids such books.
@@jnash158 By banning them from their school or local library.
@@Roderickdl library for adults? it will wrong to ban them from adult section of libraries but I really don't mind if it's banned from kids(grade 6 and below) libraries. an adult should not be prevented from reading anything he/she desires to read
speech*
@@Roderickdl I work at a library and I can assure you, we don’t remove “banned” books from our collection.
History is not there for you to like or dislike.
It is there for you to learn from it.
And if it offends you, even better.
Because then you are less likely to repeat it.
It's not yours to erase or destroy.
Overlooked in the montage of book burnings was the frenzy of comic-book bonfires in the wake of Frederick Wortham's "seduction of the innocent" in the US in the 1950s. The history of American mass hysteria has many (deliberately?) forgotten chapters
"Mass Hysteria". Please, most of the burning was for the media, not on any grand scale, that's nonsense, just go to any comic book convention, although sometimes rare, comic books from that era are not rare, because they were not "burned" in some mass event. You are incorrect. My favorite riot/burning was held at the end of a major league baseball game in Chicago 1979, it was called, "Disco Demolition Night". Your narrow view of history is the true danger in any classroom, hope you are NOT a teacher.
It's not the kids who feel bad, it's the grown-ups who feel a way. The white adults feel exposed because books discussing race point a finger at their own biases and hate. You learn from books, and knowledge exposes motives and actions.
In case people missed it, Texas had this as part of the official GOP party platform in 2012: "Knowledge-Based Education - We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE)" So there you have it. At least they admit it.
Not to be "that old man", but I grew up knowing straight up facts about everything and everyone. I learned what my people have done right and wrong and I learned from it. I tried to avoid the same mistakes and embraced the right that we have done. I'm not the epitome of humanity or anything, but I would like to think I'm a decent person who tries to respect everyone as much as I can. I am still a flawed human being, but who isn't? If your sense of self worth is based on a couple of books, then you're in a for a world of hurt. Your brittle spirit won't get you far in life.
Are you talking about the bible?
@@kiwibob223 or the Quran?
No you didn't. You were propagandized.
" I grew up knowing straight up facts about everything and everyone"
Wow. If you really believe that, then you have a lot to learn.
The more you know, the more you realize how much you don't know.
@@deddy9675 "My dad can beat up your dad."
"Land of the Free..." 🤔
At least, in the US if you can't afford a private school and don't want your kids to learn CRT, while lacking proper math, science and language skills, you can home school them. Here in the Netherlands, you don't have that choice.
@@HansBezemer "The law does allow an exception from the mandatory schooling requirement in cases in which the conscience of the parents cannot be satisfied with the available schools in the neighborhood and there are not enough parents locally with the same concerns to justify starting a new school. On a yearly basis some 200 children enjoy homeschooling because of this legal exception."
HSLDA - The Netherlands
It seems like homeschooling is indeed possible in the Netherlands, allthough as an exception to the rule.
Thats wildly off topic though and I suggest you talk about the... What?...
"Merits and Problems of the schoolsystem of the Netherlands" with someone else, preferably an expert
@@benchoflemons398 So?
@@thepax2621 What you're referring to is Article 5 sub B - which is rarely granted. Also, people with a traveling profession are concerned here. You have to jump through quite some hoops to apply for an exception. Legal experts generally advise to move to another country - like Belgium.
Note there is also Article 5 sub A - which concerns physically or mentally ill kids. I don't know where you got your numbers, but the number of exceptions under Article 5 sub B may even be considerably lower.
@@benchoflemons398 "Books teaching racism"...?
And here I thought that was a real story, real history and thus should be taught as well...
Silly me 🤦🏻♀️, I should have realized its an obvious conspiracy theory, designed to teach "racism" 🙄.
I suppose "Ruby" never existed as well and those "US Marshalls" were paid actors 🤷🏻♀️
"Isn't the local people deciding..."
Because they're embarassed that school used to be segregated?
Should Germany ban Anne Frank, because the story of that girl is "embarassing" and, of course, teaches "facism"?
"Local people..."
Remember that, when they make bonfires to burn books again.
They are not "banning " these books, just removing them in elementary school libraries.
It's so sad that this is happening.....
Yes, the democRats really turned this country into a sad one in a single year...
"They don't gotta burn the books, they just remove them."
Rage Against The Machine - Bulls on Parade
There are no "book bans" in the United States.
Moving books in a school library from a section which has no age restriction to one which does is not "banning" books- unless you think that alcohol and cigarettes are "banned" because they are age-restricted.
Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it. But we don't ever learn, and we always repeat. Teaching is a method of control. Those who are good do it. Those who are eviL do it ( teach for reasons of control ). We must learn a better way.
"Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 Timothy 3:7 KJV
Parents can be a lost cause, and cheap politics are trying to take advantage of such petty squabbles as kid's book bans. Racism is based on the market for credit, not personal viewpoint.
I don’t believe in banning books. , you can teach history without racism either way .
So you want to raise a generation of holocaust deniers, is that it? awesome...
Racism is very much part of history, though, especially _American_ history.
Yes, it's not the books, it's the method, and that's the issue, it's the new framework for teaching which is dangerous and requires mediation and balance. Parents must be involved.
How to you teach about racism without racism? Could you write me a paper on that, please.
@@nuqwestr have you seen how books are being rewritten because of the nonsense anti CRT laws? I won't be surprised if MLK Day gets outlawed if this trend continues. :/
The irony in that sign that said "teach facts not feelings"
I think children should read books about history and racism. They should be taught what our ancestors had done right or wrong and what were the consequences without biased feelings and agendas. If you listened properly and watch the video properly, most protests are about how these histories were spoken and taught in classrooms. And the biggest question is who are we to define what is right or wrong? The only way to look at history without personal prejudice is the consequences of actions done or the sufferings caused by these actions. Many in society now are quick to define right or wrong based on what we believe today. 1000years from now, human will define our beliefs today, right or wrong with a new set of beliefs. They will look at the consequences of our beliefs of right or wrong and the actions that we took today.
Right and wrong by which standard? Are you also that strict when judging world cultures?
Ooh!!!
Heaven forbid children might feel bad about this country's history. They might actually grow up to have compassion.
I wish people like you would watch the video and understand what is being said!!! This story isn't about banning a book that teaches a story or history. It's about teaching children a political distortion and telling a story with a political and cultural bias with the story!
@@covertpuppytwo3857 Are you for real? I've read some of those books and I can tell you that it's definitely not the case. Stop acting like every expression of racism was just an act from misguided individuals. It's a historical fact that racism was prevalent on a societal level and institutionalized. That is not a bias!
@@elisaa9981 I too have read some of those books and even suggesting that these books simply teach children history is BEYOND bull!!! You are simply making a strawman argument when you claim those parents and myself simply wish to disregard history which absolutely included racism... but CRT reading today goes beyond just teaching history... they are books to indoctrinate children on a political bias and that is FACT!!!! Take a book used in schools called "Not my idea"... in that book it writes for children to read “Racism is a white person’s problem.” .. Really? As if only White people can be racist? That is in itself is racism!
@@covertpuppytwo3857 It's not a fact. Stop confusing your ideas with facts. Of course colored people can be racists, but on a societal level, very well illustrated by the US, the racism does not target white people. People start to yell about CRT and indoctrination when they refuse to acknowledge that racism is a structural problem in society and just want to acknowledge it as a problem among random individuals. This misconception is really hurtful.
@@elisaa9981 "Stop confusing your ideas with fact"... you have the gall to say and imply it was me saying it when I even quoted from the CRT book directly? WOW... just wow!
"racism does not target white people" - now that just plain idiotic and racist itself! You clearly have you own agenda and couldn't care less about actually educating children... you are the problem, not the solution!
Teaching tough historical topics in a way that honestly informs and then allows students to think, understand, and be empowered is the point and parents typically can agree here. What TN does in a county does not determine what all districts in TN do, nor does it determine what happens in other states.
The political pendulum will always move back and forth, and the pendulum in education is no different. Right and left is an extremely simplified view of all the diverse perspectives along a spectrum. Currents events provoke reactions from all the varied cultures and religions, as they should. And while the outside world may see the process book banning from their experience of censorship, the discussions of what to do are the essence of democracy. When civil discourse stops, our democracy will be in danger. In a free diverse nation one perspective should not ever silence all others.
I trust the process, the teachers in all of the classrooms across the nation, and our children for all that I see that is positive.
I find that with the book banning the problem runs much deeper then we think since a lot of schools don't even teach kids to have a hunger for knowledge or to read critically so when they are to read for school it bores them since they are taught to read literally and not think about how the book was written and why it was.
Ok, so when will we start to blame religious nonsense for causing such kinds of issues? Respecting religion is still main stream while it's unclear why they deserve respect. Ridiculing nonsense should be the right response.
Religious nonsense? Like aetheism, nationalism, evolutionism, elitism, liberalism, libertarianism?
Or perhaps you have something else in mind?
@@capturedflame imagine thinking everything in life is chance and nothing has any meaning or morality as an adult. Cringe.
Why is "the great Gatsby" banned ? Lol whats next Fahrenheit 451 ?
Good call😄😄😄😄
Actually f451 has been a target many times!
I’m lucky to live in an American state that would never, ever ban books, but I look around at my fellow citizens and I’m just appalled. Jeez louise, we are going through some stuff right now! We’ll get there, but I worry what will happen if the Republicans take over again.
You mean a good economy again? Remember when you could afford to drive a few miles to visit your Grandma? I sure miss those days. Thanks for your sadistic input, Bonnie.
A 2-party system where the one of the parties is openly fascist does not a democracy make. Democracy is about choice and there is none.
yes, keep killing babies. That is what you do :D and condemn Putin for killing the Ukrainians at the same time :D
I quote: "Schools in Burbank will no longer be able to teach a handful of classic novels, including Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird, following concerns raised by parents over racism. Until further notice, teachers in the area will not be able to include on their curriculum Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird, Mark Twain's The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, John Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men, Theodore Taylor's The Cay and Mildred D. Taylor's Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry".
The Bee even mocked these bans - available on UA-cam.
@@HansBezemer I'm surprised they didn't ban Fahrenheit 451, that would have been ironic.
Yesterday the targets were books on history, today's it's books on history, women, race and LGBT issues, tomorrow it'll be on history, women, race, LGBT, science, evolution, astronomy and just about every other topic that the x-to-fascists dislike. We have see this before.
Having been at school in the 90s, where were all the trans children then?
@@abdell75roussos There have been medical advances in diagnosis and treatment during the intervening three decades.
@@georgesvanbaelen6492 Humans the most studied species ever.
No records of children telling doctors or parents that they want to change sex. Only very odd cases 1 in 1 000 000.
Children have coexisting anxiety and depression, autism and such and this increases over the years, (reasons for that).
LGBT offers lots of love and acceptance, and a club, and lots of attention from many people. Children with undeveloped brains are naturally attracted to this new situation.
The result is that they want/given hormones, and surgury instead of the real problem. The result will be damage to the child, and law suits.
If you want to protect children, and voice concern, offer other solutions, then you may or will loose your job, get threatened, cancelled etc etc.
Anorexia moved to a country where it was previously unknown. Need to look at these facts, and the effect of social media, peer preasure etc
Massive court and litigation coming.
@@georgesvanbaelen6492 ... then there is rapid onset....
There are many issues and faces of this. .. and the ideology that goes with it is often hostile, antifamily, left wing, cencorship laden, fact rejecting.
The other seriuos issue is that some of the people involved are interested in both sex and children as predicted. There is a clear and determined effort to reduce or get rid of age of consent among some adults and actavists.
Some books aimed at chipping away at the protection children are given, to get the big prize.
Deciding a book is not appropriate for an audience is not what banning is.
Book bans are not trending in the US. Because the country is so big even a few incidence standout. They get noticed. Put on a per-capita basis, it's extremely rare. This news story has overlooked that fact because it would diminish the whole purpose of the story.
They sure are.
Florida banned some. Not some counties but the whole state.
Other red states are trying to imitate it.
The "per-capita"-number is low due to states like california not banning books.
Also the logic of measuring banned books per capita is just meh...
A banned book is banned. No matter if there are 0.1 or 12 books per capita.
Depends on the state. In "Red" states it's happening and has been for awhile. In "Blue" states it is not. Per capita? Not a large number, but then again most "red" states are less populated.
Isn’t democracy about protecting the right of the minority? So this happening at all in the US should raise flags…
From a pasted President who wants to dissolve the American Constitution, that tells me there's a party of people who wish to erase history altogether.
No Constitution, no Democracy. And banning books is a start at hopelessness by lost.
Lol is Harry Potter banned because the whole "Mudblood" stuff ?
I dont support banning books but why is a maths book talking about race?
Given the current state of racism in the USA (but not solely) I think that these books are valuable. From banning to burning is a small step. "White" America is far from accepting that we're all equal.
yeah its pretty ironic how these conservatives whine about people needing a safe space and then ban books that mention LGBT or racial issues...
"current state of Racism" is a myth, asserted by ideologues like you. Didn't you get that Stalin and Mao failed?
So much for freedom of speech...
Freedom of speech? Requiring children to read certain books is the way to ensure Freedom of speech? Do you even know what freedom of speech means?
@@covertpuppytwo3857you’re required to read in school books you don’t even want to read cause it’s part of the curriculum. Everyone consents to it when they join school. 🙄
@@M.A.C.01 Yes, you are required to read the books the school assigns you but those books in question are chosen for the educational value... NOT all books are educational or should be supplied to all students. If you disagree, tell me then... would the book "mein kampf" be acceptable to German children to read? If not, didn't you just say EVERYONE consents to it when they join school? 🤔
This is nothing new - I remember being shocked at walking past a Barnes and Noble in New Orleans in 1986 and seeing a display of books banned by Louisiana school districts. "To Kill A mocking Bird" and "Catcher In The Rye" were amongst the titles....Of course, it would be both very funny and very sad if Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" were to be removed from student libraries...
Many of the books I read in high school for classes 40 years ago have been banned. The high school I went to no longer has them in their library. Tennessee has gone backwards 200 years since I left.
@@BrigidFitch2112 I just find it very sad that America, that I remember as a confident, can do, modern science led country from my childhood has become a fearful, insular society with so many "nutjob" conspiracy theorists. Margaret Atwood wrote recently that she "invented Gilead. The Supreme Court is making it real."
Funnily enough, my sister moved from California to Tennessee (via Houston) - with every move she has seemed to be more provincial, and alien to me..
One of the books I had to read at school was a classic by Joseph Conrad something about people on a boat called Narcissus. Did I enjoy it? no. Was it racist? I would have to reread it to answer that. Would the full title get this post moderated? probably.
Too many knee jerk reactions on all sides.
Please don't ban Fahrenheit 451, more appropriate (even respectful) would be to burn it.
Whenever a birthday of one of the kids in my family comes up, I select one book from the banned book list for them.
People need to be honest with their history (and in general), no matter how offensive it is.
the loudest voice (yet smallest amount of people) gets change
And when you really get down to it who's fault is that? Hint: apathy.
Actual idiom: "The squeaky wheel gets the grease."
I want to read the banned books, real history is important. This is not about hurt feelings, we and our children need to deal with the truth and how it effected the people involved. History is important so we don't fall back into the traps of racist behavior. The woman made a good point. We don't give our kids enough credit. We can not cushion them from the reality of the world. Truth will get them far and help them to build a better future and society for all.
1 Critical race theory isn't truth it's an ideology
2 "The woman made a good point" You mean the racist woman that called it a "white" concern?
Yip History happened and it’s no use denying it! Let it be.
if you want to read real history, then you can read history books; Not 'the critical race theory' side of History :D
Nonsense, "real history", by whose definition? Teachers in Germany taught "real history" in 1934, the same way "real history" is being taught in Russia today. The "State" should be responsible to parents, not the other way around. I would think GERMANS would not have forgotten their own "real history" so soon.
@@jennychurchill2716 It's not about "history", no one is in denial, the question is to whether the State or the parents are foremost responsible for what children are taught. I'd think Germans would be more knowledgeable about their own history on that subject.
I grew up in a "don't say gay" environment with zero representation...still ended up trans, I was just lied to for the first 33 years of my life. Having a book with gender diverse representation in my k-12 experience wouldn't have confused me, it would have saved years of not understanding why I felt different and unseen. A few people's discomfort should not hold others from understanding core parts of their identity and the identity of their classmates and community members. I'm only here because I have nice parents and didn't want to upset them. Otherwise I definitely would have checked out from a society that consistently perceived and treated me incorrectly. Giving kids representation is suicide prevention and teaches basic empathy for diverse experiences.
History be taught as it happened, call out what happened and let us know.
Forget the story of Ruby Bridges They need to teach kids the story of Ruby ridge 💯
Both?
@@user-xq4st9ie7r your right
👎 for a misleading title and for the video generally mischaracterizing the issue.
Obviously the US doesn't have a system for banning books. A book availability at a school library isn't the same as questioning or stopping books from being publicly available. Parents have the rights to question the content of books at their local school libraries, and if any book is removed, those books will still be publicly available at any public library or through the private sector.
I read a lot of the comments on this video, and it's clear that most don't understand the situation. This video did a bad job at expressing the nuances of this topic.
"parents have the right to censor books from libaries"
Yea we germans learned that banning or burning books is not a good idea.
Ironic how a show discussing partisan issues manages to create such a subjective program. It’s painfully obvious that there’s a leftwing production behind this.
So about 1 minute spent on one side, and the rest on the other side….hmmmmmmmmmm
Not much nuance on the first side.
Yes, they said conservatives banned 'more' but not 'all'. They never showed the books banned by leftists or their justifications.
So they are teaching racism by teaching racism....
Pretty much.
American modes are the worst ever in our human history. What a shame.
The Great Gatsby, Wuthering Heights, Animal Farm are now banned books, are you serious?
Moral panics have occurred in rural areas throughout American history with books being banned here and there for various reasons. It usually abates eventually and the bans are reversed. It is usually a sign of a significant cultural shift and some sort of cultural tension, which usually abates. Right now there are extremes on both sides. They are usually highly localized and eventually normalize. Right now it may seem overly intense.
What???!!!
The most effective book bans are by Amazon, which has about 60% of both print and e-book markets. The political and sociological books they ban are exclusively right-wing as far as I know.
Paradox of tolerance. The intolerant cannot be tolerated if we're to keep our tolerant society.
Racist and fascist books should definitely always be banned.
@@amoral_minority But who decides what qualifies as "racist" or "fascist"? Even the Germans have trouble with this since there are a few ultra-right publishers in Germany which somehow are allowed to operate. In the US, the SCOTUS rulings that make up current jurisprudence are completely opposed to your position.
Amazon isn’t in the business of ‘banning’ anything. Sloppy logic.
@@manatee2500 You're playing word games. Local school boards don't ban anything either. The product is still available elsewhere.
Good for awareness. Presentation is impeccable.
The book bans and creating fear. Is a good way to direct the attention of the public, away from the things that they would like to keep out of sight, from public scrutiny.
Parents have the right to decide what’s appropriate in their school libraries.
I’m curious why that scares you?
Ok, please explain to me how a depiction of the Holocaust can be "overly rough".... Like, what??
I think in many of these cases the books aren't the problem. It's the teacher's and the school boards that need to change. Good teachers can correct the harmful ideas in some books, but the bad teachers pushing these modern ideologies are going to find ways to push their own ideas onto those kids no matter how many books you ban.
@You Tube You clearly haven't read any of them. They all promote positive life skills and values. They teach people to be kind and loving to one another, they teach that you should be healthy and to work hard and not leech off of others. They promote lifestyles that are statistically shown to make you happier. The modern ideologies are the issue. Happiness has been in a steady decline for a long time now. Your lack of an ability to understand and reason amaze me.
@You Tubemost people who identify as white lack empathy
@ It appears an attempt at producing hopelessness by denying access.
Remember, the Dixiecrates infiltrated the Republicans in 60s who still mourn the Southern lost.
As in blackface.
@@valderon3692"The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise." Proverbs 12:15 KJV
i can see the conservative woman's point about teaching group identity being divisive. you solve racism by having races all mixing as equals, so people grow up knowing that we're all the same. this is an established result from social science. highlighting the division without suggesting ways to get beyond it seems irresponsible
america is highly segregated today. watch any tv show, written by liberals, and you never see couples of different colours. so how will kids know to abandon their primitive group identities?
What the???? Watch a "conservative" show and you won't see more minorities than the token amount required. Or those minorities will only have minor subservient roles not representative of real life.
She has no point, cause she's making things up.
They are not teaching their kids critical race theory, this is a lie
They are not teaching group identity, they are teaching history, in which some group has things to other groups, this is what happened
They have an issue with history that's it, nothing more nothing less, they are bullies that like to enjoy the privileges of what their whiteness represents and brings everywhere in this world really, but get offended when the how they got get discussed, even the fact that they have privileges at all make they mad for some reasons.
They are just bullies, who were fed misinformation, did not care to know if it's true or not, wanting to rewrite history to feel better about themselves.
The reason Conservatives don't want children to learn about racism is because it would give the children the tools to recognize it and try to do something about it. They can't have that, seeing how racism is pretty much the cornerstone of Conservatism, so they prefer their kids to be ignorant and racist, just like them.
You simply do not understand the extremely hateful, violent and destructive reality of American culture
@@100c0c
In-group preference has to be taught.
My fave DW correspondent
talking about more unfortunate events 😍😘
The only books that have been removed from schools are ones that are sexually explicit. Books so explicit, parents were being removed from school board meetings for reading them aloud. Look this up for yourselves people. The framing of this by DW is completely disingenuous and lazy. It would have only taken a few minutes to learn about what was actually being removed, vs the books a few outliers are trying to get removed. And, I can tell you, being in one of these "racist states", my kids spent a long time at school learning and reading about people like Ruby Bridges. This whole book banning narrative is beyond exaggerated.
There's been a number of books that were banned both officially and unofficially over the years in the US. Most people only care about this wave because they like the contents of the books being taught not being banned. They obviously would and do the same to books they dislike or find harmful themselves. The issue is reduced to our vs their side's ideas to push over onto students.
Banning books in the U.S. has be a VERY RARE and then only to a VERY FEW books, and even those made their way in to bookstores and people's homes. Henry Miller is a good example, his "Tropic of Cancer" was banned in 1938 because of sexual content, but that did not stop it from coming to America wrapped in brown paper from Europe, the ban was lifted in 1961 and even used in a Seinfeld episode where Jerry fails to return it to his high school library. This issue is not about books or history, but framework and methodology. Why adults think they can shape the moral lives of their children with just books is beyond my understanding.
Yeah...no. We call folks like that hypocrites here.
Again most books that are being banned are angering old reactionaries, mostly conservatives, this is not a two sided BS.
Ignore the differences, don't make white kids feel bad?! About what white racists did fifty years ago. I think maybe kids need to know, and know they're not their racist grandparents
WESTERN hypocrisy
Parents should decide what is taught in schools, not political activists. But, don’t censor any speech or books, whether in libraries or on the internet.
Oh but parents do decide what is taught in schools when they exercise their voting rights. I am very happy that any parent, without previous experience, competence or enough scrutiny in the decision process is not allowed to impose their views on my children.
"Only a fool would allow their enemies to teach their children." ~ Malcolm X
@Rich Perez Can you be more specific? What would you teach?
Only a fool lives by quote.
@@Ksgggg Dodge the message; blame the messenger.
these things should be taught to adults who can tell right from wrong not kids below grade 6. let children be children. besides, if a parent says NO, then NO. simple
*Taught
mmmm yes, only good things have come from book bans throughout history
Lots o bans in the land of the free.
Makes the white kid feel bad.. I'm sorry but if that's the case I think the lesson hasn't been learned.
I distinctly remember following a school programme about the Dutch golden age. How the Dutch sailed across the seas with these magnificent ships to do trade with other nations. Then we also learned about the authorities committed by those same people. I think these folks underestimate kids ability to think.
Republicans: "Facts don't care about your feelings."
Also Republicans: "If we teach factual history, it might hurt white kids' feelings."
L'histoire se répète !
History does not repeat, but DNA does. Your quote is old and irrelevant based on current knowledge of the human brain.
@@nuqwestr It's humans that repeat old errors, because they don't use their brain but instead chose to remain ignorant of historical facts.
Is it Fahrenheit 451 already :0
Because idocracy is happening in America