Penn State's crowd turns into a golf gallery once you pop them in the nose. They have to come back and/or take a lead if you want to hear a peep from them throughout. I was there for 4 years.
I'm an Alabama fan now for 32 yrs.And I agree. Alabama home field advantage before we went on this roll of Dominance for a Decade and 1/2 !! Just saying! Have you seen how De'bore has been Recruiting?? 😮😊Looks like we ain't going anywhere!! Just saying.. Anyways, Alabama used to be freaking loud , pumped and had everything you wanted in a home field advantage!!! I think Auburn is underrated with their visiting locker room. U have to walk right past their fan and student section in single fill line with a locker room that hasn't been touched since 1989... And there fans hate us we hate them.
It's a thing people don't think of. When the program you're facing is that talented, you don't really spend time being distracted with a lot of outside BS.
As an OU fan I think we were way too high at #8, based on previous games. BUT think about it, we’ve been playing TCU, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, and Iowa State. We leave in the 4th quarter because we’re up 30+ points most games and it sucks. But now with Tennessee and Alabama coming to Norman, it’ll be louder than any other place in the country. We just have not had a game to be hyped for at home in a long time, Ohio State was probably the last one 🤷♂️
Also you mentioned how it got rocking for Bedlam, and that was: 1. A game that OU fans don’t even really think of as a true rivalry. 2. A year where we finished 6-7, and half of the student body wasn’t going to games anymore.
Tom i dont think Bryant denny is #2 but if you attended the LSU game last year you would know your wrong we gave our team an advantage i had my ears ring for the rest of the night just saying
Tide fan for 50+ years and yes Bryant Denny is overrated. But I think it's bc we are a spoiled fan base. There is absolutely nothing game related that would end with Tide fans rushing the field. We expect to win. That's not to say it isn't loud, it is for big games. But in the past I've been able to carry on normal conversations during a game. I hate to admit it but Jordan Hare is a more difficult place to play. So is Neyland, Tiger stadium and the Swamp. But it goes back to Coach Bryant and his "act like you've been there" attitude.
Speaking on stadiums I’ve been to and watched over the years. LSU’s Death Valley A&M’s Kyle Field UF’s Ben Hill Griffin FSU’s Doak Campbell Clemson Memorial Death Valley Virginia Tech at Lane Stadium PSU Beaver Stadium (I haven’t been but I can tell it’s crazy in there) Tennessee Neyland stadium NCST’s Carter Finley stadium Alabama and Georgia being in the top 10 is crazy to me and I feel like that’s everybody being politically correct 🤷🏾♂️. They are definitely somewhere 11-20. Clemson not being there is ridiculous
These people just keep fishing for Oklahoma hate. Oklahoma gets crazy windy and loud as hell whenever we play anyone good… which hasn’t happened much at home in the past 5-10 years in the Big 12.
@@clarencewalder2985 Doesn't matter those schools won't win playoff game or national championship yet. Liberty App State to name few will before they do See how easy and irrelevant that is to say?
Look i will always have a soft spot for the XII but a lot of games throughout the years get boring for us, because we would be up by 20 at Half time. Trust me when we get into the SEC and games are extremely close more often Norman will be top 5 in fan noise. It will be just like Thunder games, but with 80,000 + fans!
I just figured out why PSU was listed so low in the top 10 places to play. Let me guess you have never been there before? 4 guys talking about college football and you have never travel to HV for a White Out? Maybe Tom since he's the only guy with some sort of link to the B10. I love your show but CFB fanbases in the north not name OSU get seriously short changed here. Top 5 I've actually been to.... PSU, FLA, UT, WIS and OSU. I can't talk about the other because I've only seen them on TV.
Other places don't need to have a White Out in order to be tough places to play. And based on my 4 years at University Park, Penn State fans turn into a golf gallery if you punch the team in the nose early, and if they don't come back on the next drive, you don't really hear a peep unless something big happens later. Then if the game is decided by the 4th, it frees up the drunk kids to go downtown and riot and/or throw sh!t from their balconies in Beaver Canyon. 🤣
While i understand the logic of the "only high school" class in blue chip it really misses the big picture. The Pac was considered the best year it had as a confernce in a long time and it was almost completely predicated on the QB's and almost all of them were portal players. When you bring in portal players at specific positions it is more important then a freshman 4 star who may never be more than a college starter.
They didn't win he title. They did say a generational QB can break the trend but hey have not yet done it, ever. With a fair number of years to get it done
@@nole74 With transfer portal such a big part of rosters year to year I think you have to consider it in the blue chip ratio. To ignore the change to the roster makeup via portal makes the ratio kind of false in my opinion. Keon Coleman and Braden Fiske made FSU better and were blue chip. To not count them doesn't make sense to me. Lot of transfer portal guys may have been 3 stars coming out of high school but are 4 stars in the portal beacuse they got better. Fiske is good example. He may not have been blue chip in high school but he was a blue chip in the portal. This year Ohio State adds Caleb Downs and Julian Sayin but they don't count in the ratio? Just seems like misapplied data.
@@commexcellis3582 ok. Keon is a blue chip if he transfers? Is he less a blue chip if he does not? If you rate transfers then don't you have to rate the guys who stay and out perform or underperform? In which case you are just giving a subjective current roster rating
@@nole74 What is the point of the blue chip ratio if its not an antire roster anaylysis? If 20% of your starters are from the portal and you don't count them in your blue chip ratio as a factor in winning then what is the point? Keon was blue chip regardless of staying or leaving. If in the portal you go get a backup guard who isn't going to play they are just like any other incoming freshman for a ratio. If they are coming in to be starter then by default they have improved your roster but you don't count them in it? We coudl go back and forth but I will leave it at this. Caleb Downs is probably the best Safety, and one of the best defensive players, in the country. He is a 5-star who looks to be a perenial all american until he is a first round NFL player. He doesn't count in Ohio State's blue chip ratio, but his backup who was recruited there does?
@@commexcellis3582 well the whole roster is not updated just transfers, so if a e 3 star hs guy who does not transfer but would be a 4 star transfer how would you count that? As a 4 star or 3 star?
Barely over .500 (something like 24-20 record against the SEC teams) at home since joining the SEC. The record isn’t that much different home and away.
I've never been there but my guess would be the stadium design hurts the noise level. No upper decks to contain the noise. Plus blue bloods expect to win. Michigan fans aren't acting like complete idiots.
Ohio State this year has at least three transfers that could make a difference in a national championship. A Qb, a running back and a safety. So tell me transfers won’t make a difference.
Does the blue chip ratio include a transfer’s high school rating? For example, is Julian Sayin factored into Ohio State’s rating or is he still counted as Alabama? Or does it only consider recruiting class rankings and not the value of the talent currently on the roster? Seems to me that it only makes sense to include the current roster with their high school rating regardless of where a player was originally signed.
I drive past Laramie every year en route to Colorado where I run a 10K at 10K feet in Leadville. I can't speed past it fast enough. It's depressing to drive past.
Talk about engagement farming then say stuff like, “win percentage doesn’t matter” is beyond hilarious. Like what factor would you use to determine how hard it is to play in a stadium other than the rate at which the home team wins? Absolutely braindead commentary.
You are 1000% wrong. Danny’s point about Liberty having an amazing home win percentage says everything. They don’t play anybody. Clemson plays nobody. Win percentage is a terrible metric.
It's all tied in but they're not special if they don't BS you into thinking they have some inside knowledge. Although, to be fair, they ARE generally good sources. But their conclusions, etc., leave a lot to be desired - some staff more than others. That's what you get with "advanced analytics" guys in baseball as well. They'll tell you that RBIs don't matter, then tell you that these other 12 statistics over HERE are what really matter. And if you look at them, they are really just smaller break downs that - if smashed together - would equal RBIs. 🤣 The Blue Chip Ratio is just reverse-engineered BS. If we begin to get a few exceptions, they'll re-engineer it, claim it's worth paying attention to, and assume we won't remember that they had a different formula made the same claims about until it eventually didn't work. It's basically seeing that all of 2023's MLB playoff teams won at least 84 games, then me coming out with my "Rule of 84" for MLB. 🤣 Take care.
Thank you for a hour escaping reality boys
Oregon's Autzen registered over 110 db which is right up there with LSU's and PSUs.
I'm a Miami fan but LSU stadium/crowd os crazy! Number 1 in my book.
1st time listener. I find you guys to be very unbiased on your opinions. Rare in current times. Subbed. Go noles!
Youre in for a treat! Stick around
Keep listening and see if you maintain that position. Regardless, it IS likely the best CFB podcast.
Well you are an FSU fan so I guess you'll be okay with it but Kanell is literally the most biased "analyst" out there!
Clemson fan gotta say, Penn State and LSU night games are 1-2. Having been to most of these stadiums Tenn is bananas, Miss state is SO loud.
Penn St plays crowd noise on speakers, which is illegal, is the reason why it gets loud there. Hard to travel to though.
@@nick21614 as a psu fan that's been to a few dozen games, you're just wrong.
@@kylehaney2208 Let me know when you've been on the field during the game
Penn State's crowd turns into a golf gallery once you pop them in the nose. They have to come back and/or take a lead if you want to hear a peep from them throughout. I was there for 4 years.
Thank you, gentlemen.
Autzen belongs on that list. That place is LOUD. Louder than stadiums with 20-30 thousand more people and the fans are right on top of you.
For a player to be considered a blue chip in the BCR do they need to be ranked a 4 star in all of the recruiting services or just one?
I'm an Alabama fan now for 32 yrs.And I agree. Alabama home field advantage before we went on this roll of Dominance for a Decade and 1/2 !! Just saying! Have you seen how De'bore has been Recruiting?? 😮😊Looks like we ain't going anywhere!! Just saying.. Anyways, Alabama used to be freaking loud , pumped and had everything you wanted in a home field advantage!!! I think Auburn is underrated with their visiting locker room. U have to walk right past their fan and student section in single fill line with a locker room that hasn't been touched since 1989... And there fans hate us we hate them.
It's a thing people don't think of. When the program you're facing is that talented, you don't really spend time being distracted with a lot of outside BS.
Texas fan here I would put money on Georgia to win that game Texas still needs to prove it before I put money on them
That's smart money! LSU fan here, I usually bet on LSU every year. NOT this year.
As an OU fan I think we were way too high at #8, based on previous games. BUT think about it, we’ve been playing TCU, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, and Iowa State. We leave in the 4th quarter because we’re up 30+ points most games and it sucks. But now with Tennessee and Alabama coming to Norman, it’ll be louder than any other place in the country. We just have not had a game to be hyped for at home in a long time, Ohio State was probably the last one 🤷♂️
Also you mentioned how it got rocking for Bedlam, and that was:
1. A game that OU fans don’t even really think of as a true rivalry.
2. A year where we finished 6-7, and half of the student body wasn’t going to games anymore.
I definitely read the articles in Bud voice🤣😭
Autzen Stadium. Oregon Ducks
UGA being on there and only a capacity of 92k says something. Just wait till they finish stadium improvements and add seats where the bridge is.
Tom i dont think Bryant denny is #2 but if you attended the LSU game last year you would know your wrong we gave our team an advantage i had my ears ring for the rest of the night just saying
Tide fan for 50+ years and yes Bryant Denny is overrated. But I think it's bc we are a spoiled fan base. There is absolutely nothing game related that would end with Tide fans rushing the field. We expect to win. That's not to say it isn't loud, it is for big games. But in the past I've been able to carry on normal conversations during a game.
I hate to admit it but Jordan Hare is a more difficult place to play. So is Neyland, Tiger stadium and the Swamp.
But it goes back to Coach Bryant and his "act like you've been there" attitude.
fair comment. It's not 2, but low end of top 10 probably.
37:33 I didn’t know norvell and fsu was recruiting like a g5 😂😅.
Chip's hatred of his own school needs to be studied. We've beaten app two years in a row. Even with Chizik
Speaking on stadiums I’ve been to and watched over the years.
LSU’s Death Valley
A&M’s Kyle Field
UF’s Ben Hill Griffin
FSU’s Doak Campbell
Clemson Memorial Death Valley
Virginia Tech at Lane Stadium
PSU Beaver Stadium (I haven’t been but I can tell it’s crazy in there)
Tennessee Neyland stadium
NCST’s Carter Finley stadium
Alabama and Georgia being in the top 10 is crazy to me and I feel like that’s everybody being politically correct 🤷🏾♂️. They are definitely somewhere 11-20. Clemson not being there is ridiculous
W podcast
These people just keep fishing for Oklahoma hate. Oklahoma gets crazy windy and loud as hell whenever we play anyone good… which hasn’t happened much at home in the past 5-10 years in the Big 12.
I love how people are sleeping on OUs defense.
Doesn't matter they won't win playoff game or national championship yet. Texas Notre Dame to name few will before they do
@@clarencewalder2985 Doesn't matter those schools won't win playoff game or national championship yet. Liberty App State to name few will before they do
See how easy and irrelevant that is to say?
@@clarencewalder2985lol
People winning money sleeping on that defense for about a quarter century now. 🤣
That defense that allowed 32 PPG last SIX games of the season? Good reason to sleep on them.
Look i will always have a soft spot for the XII but a lot of games throughout the years get boring for us, because we would be up by 20 at Half time. Trust me when we get into the SEC and games are extremely close more often Norman will be top 5 in fan noise. It will be just like Thunder games, but with 80,000 + fans!
I just figured out why PSU was listed so low in the top 10 places to play. Let me guess you have never been there before? 4 guys talking about college football and you have never travel to HV for a White Out? Maybe Tom since he's the only guy with some sort of link to the B10. I love your show but CFB fanbases in the north not name OSU get seriously short changed here. Top 5 I've actually been to.... PSU, FLA, UT, WIS and OSU. I can't talk about the other because I've only seen them on TV.
This is not what home field s best at its best. It is what home field is best overall
Other places don't need to have a White Out in order to be tough places to play. And based on my 4 years at University Park, Penn State fans turn into a golf gallery if you punch the team in the nose early, and if they don't come back on the next drive, you don't really hear a peep unless something big happens later.
Then if the game is decided by the 4th, it frees up the drunk kids to go downtown and riot and/or throw sh!t from their balconies in Beaver Canyon. 🤣
“I don’t care who finishes 5th place in a race” is a wild take on the best G5 podcast in the business
Tennessee is not beating Alabama. All of the offseason championship trophies for Nico isn’t going to get it done.
High school blue-chip doesn't matter if they most of them transfer out.
Where's Jordan Hare?
In Auburn, AL.
South Carolina at night is a road trip nobody wants to make. It’s gonna be packed and loud and rankings don’t matter.
While i understand the logic of the "only high school" class in blue chip it really misses the big picture. The Pac was considered the best year it had as a confernce in a long time and it was almost completely predicated on the QB's and almost all of them were portal players. When you bring in portal players at specific positions it is more important then a freshman 4 star who may never be more than a college starter.
They didn't win he title. They did say a generational QB can break the trend but hey have not yet done it, ever. With a fair number of years to get it done
@@nole74 With transfer portal such a big part of rosters year to year I think you have to consider it in the blue chip ratio. To ignore the change to the roster makeup via portal makes the ratio kind of false in my opinion. Keon Coleman and Braden Fiske made FSU better and were blue chip. To not count them doesn't make sense to me. Lot of transfer portal guys may have been 3 stars coming out of high school but are 4 stars in the portal beacuse they got better. Fiske is good example. He may not have been blue chip in high school but he was a blue chip in the portal. This year Ohio State adds Caleb Downs and Julian Sayin but they don't count in the ratio? Just seems like misapplied data.
@@commexcellis3582 ok. Keon is a blue chip if he transfers? Is he less a blue chip if he does not?
If you rate transfers then don't you have to rate the guys who stay and out perform or underperform? In which case you are just giving a subjective current roster rating
@@nole74 What is the point of the blue chip ratio if its not an antire roster anaylysis? If 20% of your starters are from the portal and you don't count them in your blue chip ratio as a factor in winning then what is the point? Keon was blue chip regardless of staying or leaving. If in the portal you go get a backup guard who isn't going to play they are just like any other incoming freshman for a ratio. If they are coming in to be starter then by default they have improved your roster but you don't count them in it? We coudl go back and forth but I will leave it at this. Caleb Downs is probably the best Safety, and one of the best defensive players, in the country. He is a 5-star who looks to be a perenial all american until he is a first round NFL player. He doesn't count in Ohio State's blue chip ratio, but his backup who was recruited there does?
@@commexcellis3582 well the whole roster is not updated just transfers, so if a e
3 star hs guy who does not transfer but would be a 4 star transfer how would you count that? As a 4 star or 3 star?
How is Oregon not on that list?
Bc the PAC-12 bias is still attached to Oregon. They will earn their respect after the Ohio State game this year
Because they only care about numbers, every one of those stadiums house 100k+, they'll never acknowledge at 60,000 person stadium
@@AlaskaDuckDynastyoregon pumps artificial noise into their stadium
Plus Ohio State had a transfer Qb that made a difference in Fields. Another running back Sherman.
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I think in the Burrow season, all 4 QBs in the playoff were transfers. It was either that or the next year, I think.
What about the Bounce House? That stadium literally moves as well haha. There was a time where Boise never lost on blue turf.
As an Aggie, when you look at our record on the road you'll realize how valuable our home field is...
21-19 at home since joining the SEC
Barely over .500 (something like 24-20 record against the SEC teams) at home since joining the SEC. The record isn’t that much different home and away.
@mjallen77 we are 2-9 in our last 11 SEC road games. I said to look at the ROAD record and you would realize how much better our home record is
Can't believe they didn't talk about the Big House being snubbed
I've never been there but my guess would be the stadium design hurts the noise level. No upper decks to contain the noise.
Plus blue bloods expect to win. Michigan fans aren't acting like complete idiots.
The design of the Big House sacrificed loudness and intimidation by insisting on building the largest stadium.
@@brianroyster7510they don't have to act
@@DMP2923 do you know any TN fans?
It isnt loud
Bama being #2 in blue chip ratio makes me excited for this season‼️
taking fsu over Miami this year will look comical after the game
Speak more after you avoid falling on your face against UF 1st 🤣
IDK. People have been doing pretty well betting against the Canes to do anything for almost a quarter century now. Like Oklahoma.
Uninformed talking heads. Oklahoma should be higher on the list based on home win % alone.
Ohio State this year has at least three transfers that could make a difference in a national championship. A Qb, a running back and a safety. So tell me transfers won’t make a difference.
Does the blue chip ratio include a transfer’s high school rating? For example, is Julian Sayin factored into Ohio State’s rating or is he still counted as Alabama? Or does it only consider recruiting class rankings and not the value of the talent currently on the roster? Seems to me that it only makes sense to include the current roster with their high school rating regardless of where a player was originally signed.
They didn't say tranfwra don't make a difference.
Quinshon Judkins was only a 3 star. Not sure about Seth McLaughlin. Obviously Sayin and Downs were 5s.
Wait when did Danny shave
It's always fun when we revisit the reverse-engineered BS that is the Blue Chip Ratio. 🤣
Fucking Wyoming lol
I drive past Laramie every year en route to Colorado where I run a 10K at 10K feet in Leadville. I can't speed past it fast enough. It's depressing to drive past.
I think yall are writing off Bama too fast.
Talk about engagement farming then say stuff like, “win percentage doesn’t matter” is beyond hilarious. Like what factor would you use to determine how hard it is to play in a stadium other than the rate at which the home team wins? Absolutely braindead commentary.
You are 1000% wrong. Danny’s point about Liberty having an amazing home win percentage says everything. They don’t play anybody. Clemson plays nobody. Win percentage is a terrible metric.
It's all tied in but they're not special if they don't BS you into thinking they have some inside knowledge.
Although, to be fair, they ARE generally good sources. But their conclusions, etc., leave a lot to be desired - some staff more than others.
That's what you get with "advanced analytics" guys in baseball as well. They'll tell you that RBIs don't matter, then tell you that these other 12 statistics over HERE are what really matter. And if you look at them, they are really just smaller break downs that - if smashed together - would equal RBIs. 🤣
The Blue Chip Ratio is just reverse-engineered BS. If we begin to get a few exceptions, they'll re-engineer it, claim it's worth paying attention to, and assume we won't remember that they had a different formula made the same claims about until it eventually didn't work.
It's basically seeing that all of 2023's MLB playoff teams won at least 84 games, then me coming out with my "Rule of 84" for MLB. 🤣
Take care.
Your list is crap. Wyoming? Lmao. Utah? No. It's about the loudest crowds, that's it. Not weather or altitude LoL
The, two Florida State guy's have always hated Alabama. Period