My Own Early Poetducation | A Personal Reading History
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Some of my early deep readings in poetry as I progress through new stages of poetic interest. This is what might be the first of a handful of reminiscences of my early developments as a reader.
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Hello, new subscriber here, very glad to have found you. I too love Moore. I think I’ll be working through your videos slowly in the next few months. Many thanks.
I’ll confess I am not the biggest fan of modern poetry, but hearing you speak passionately about it makes me want to re-read some of the authors you mentioned. I think I have a lot to learn from you, especially when it comes to modern poetry. Great video!
I loved your description of your type of channel in another comment as "fringe-flying danglies." 'Booktube' is a lot of fun, and there's much to be said about how young channels manned by younger readers are shaping the current publication and book marketing landscape, and I think all readers would agree that cultivating a love of the written word in all its forms is a good thing, but there is definitely space for and a need for other voices talking about other types of reading, whether it be poetry, nonfiction, philosophy, classic literature, obscure mid-century translated fiction... It takes all sorts, and I'm really glad you're out here making sure that variety remains the spice of life when it comes to content for and by 'bookworms.'
You're far too kind! Yes, variety is important to the health and vitality of the written word. Speaking of which: when are you and Don going to have another bookish dialogue, Ren?
@@TheBookedEscapePlan I’m working on editing it now! He’s been a very punctual guest; I’m the slow editor 😅But I’m hoping to get the latest one up this weekend!
There’s a great poet called Augusto de Campos
(I strongly recommend the reading of Lygia Fingers)
He would say that the Quadrivium of modern poetics has an start point on:
Pound x Joyce x
Cummings x Mallarmé x
Augusto also had a lot of correspondence with Cummings, especially because he was an authorized translator by Cummings himself
I've never been a fan of AR Ammons--no particular reason, just not excited by him. But you've made me curious about Spheres. Although the dedication is to Harold Bloom, 155 is one more than the total number of Shakespeare's number of sonnets. If there is an association there, then the 12 line poems could also be a statement. Curious.
It's interesting to me that reading literary criticism lead you to a lot of poets. I think that's a pretty unusual path.
My lord! I hadn't realized the Maximus poems were so very maximum. I have never liked the poetry of Charles Olsen but props to him for having a BIG vision.
Really it can be hard to document everyone who has influenced our literary path. I think your fascination with how presses and individual people have influenced poetry overall and/or other poets is unique and that writing about it, putting it into a series of articles could result in a series of essays that some publications would be interested in.
I laughed out loud when you prefaced "I want to be kind here" before approaching the insta-poetry reviews that are too prevalent on youtube. You ended up stating it very clearly without getting into the mud. Thanks for being another voice. I hope others find your videos.
You've been publishing a lot of interesting content this week while I've been sleeping 🙂
The Maximus Poems is HUGE. I'm still reading it. I've been reading it for a few years. It is a book I have loved living with. I bought a cheap stool to keep it by my bedside. His vision was chiefly Melvillian. I think he accomplished it. It is certainly not for everyone, but I do love the Maximus Poems very much. I paid almost nothing for it: it was a rescue from a library discard.
I have actually loved documenting my own personal literary journey. I keep a notebook of when I discovered whom, what book it was, where I picked it up: these things fascinate me. The development of the literary reader fascinates me. But no matter how much you remember - no matter how much you know - to recount it all out loud is impossible. Did I even mention Edna St. Vincent Millay? I picked up the paperback of her collected poems the same day I picked up the Auden and the Moore, and I carried it around I think longer than both. To document it all in private, in real-time as it happens is one thing - to recount it would require exactly twice the length of time I have been allotted on earth.
As for these volumes of "poetry," I freely admit that I think it's a shame this is what pops up when you look up modern poetry on our present platform. When the sorts of results are generated - the kind of books and the responses to them you and I refer to here - it gives the impression that there is not presently space for actual poetry and discussions of poetry on here, that there isn't anyone present who knows about poetry, how to talk about poems, poets, and poetry (as Helen Vendler would structure it), and that the books they are talking about have anything to do with actual poetry; that they even belong in the same discussion. Of course, we are fringe-flying danglies in the whims but still: more fringies could be flying - nay, dangling - together than is currently the case. I believe in a dangling future of fringes.
@@TheBookedEscapePlan I agree that there need to be more fringes flying here on youtube. All we can do is our little bit.
Maybe someday you'll have enough distance of your reading experiences to write something reflective without feeling the burden of a massive avalanche of details.
@@poetrycrone6061 "The avalanche of details" is far too prescient - far too succinct and accurate to describe one area of my inner struggle with writing.
It was interesting to hear your journey through modern poetry. I also went along a parallel track from a while with American poetry and then I slipped into an alternate universe 😂
Through my recent interests I just stumbled on Gary Snyder and he seems to be in the same imaginative network as the poets you mention. Have you read his work? Is the work by Kathleen Raine called Blake and Tradition?
The alternate world you slipped into is one which you share on your own channel and is always refreshing to hear from! As for Gary Snyder I am in fact very fond of Gary Snyder's poems. He is certainly a part of that network. Snyder has been heavily influenced by Eastern poetic traditions, particularly the Chinese and Japanese golden ages of poetry; you would probably like him very much. Kathleen Raine has written multiple books on Blake; Blake & Tradition is among them. I believe that's the big one of hers.
Am I crazy...or did you used to have a video where you talked about "Classics Revisted" by Kenneth Rexroth? It was in that video that you mentioned another literary criticism book by a guy...but I can't remember the title. It sounded good, and I tried to find the video on your channel but it appears gone...is it possible to reupload if so? Cheers!
You're not crazy. It's just not a very good video.
@@TheBookedEscapePlanUnderstood, can you at least tell me the other books (maybe 2) mentioned in that one besides Rexroth’s? I know it was a male author fwiw