First 3 Hours Of Writing A Story (Starting From Nothing) - Jeff Kitchen [FULL INTERVIEW]

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  Рік тому +16

    How did you enjoy this process?

    • @alexcampbell3032
      @alexcampbell3032 Рік тому +5

      Are you playing with a full deck?

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  Рік тому +13

      Story Engine Deck... yes. In real life... debatable.

    • @alexcampbell3032
      @alexcampbell3032 Рік тому +5

      @@filmcourage 🤣💥

    • @spongebob03
      @spongebob03 Рік тому +2

      Has he been on before? The way it started, seems like I heard him talk about this. But there were no cards the last time.

    • @MyMusic-cd3do
      @MyMusic-cd3do Рік тому +4

      The deck certainly opens up ideas, but listening to Jeff and watching his process... sitting at the feet of the master.
      Both are awesome!

  • @anthonywritesfantasy
    @anthonywritesfantasy Рік тому +18

    "To wield two swords, you must first pick up two swords. I know it's hard; it will get easier." Musashi said that, and I think that can be true for many many things.

  • @litheran69
    @litheran69 Рік тому +48

    Advice from a guy who finally wrote his 110,000 word magnum opus of a novel.
    1. Do not edit as you write, note the needed fixes and adjust your future pages accordingly. but don’t go back and fix scenes. It’s better to push through to the end and realize you need to add some more ingredients or spices, than to stop halfway through and make an entirely different dish.
    2. Get paralyzed from the waist down so that you have time off work and nothing better to do than write.

    • @pseudonymos_
      @pseudonymos_ Рік тому +5

      Thank you for this lol. I'm definitely guilty of constantly going back and changing things while I write. I even noticed this while I play videogames! I will start a character and play for a while then make a new character so I can adjust my build or the way they look or something.

    • @jamesthokcha4299
      @jamesthokcha4299 9 місяців тому +1

      R u famous ?😂

    • @eugenetswong
      @eugenetswong 7 місяців тому +1

      #1 is great advice. While I am planning out my story, I am discovering how beneficial it is to redo certain parts, but not delete. I feel so much more productive, and I am able to see that I might be able to use 2 versions of a character; maybe the character changes, or maybe the character can be split up.
      By forcing myself to not delete ideas, I can see that I can come up with 600-1,000 words of ideas [ie.e: ideas, not just prose] in a day, and that was a huge struggle before.

    • @bigdumb1
      @bigdumb1 5 місяців тому

      This is so real. One of the best pieces of writing advice I've ever gotten is about how the part of your brain you use for writing (creativity, idea generation, flow state potentially) and the part of your brain you use for editing (critical, analytical) are completely different and switching between them mid-writing session will completely kill any forward momentum or creative process. It's hard to resist the urge to edit as you write, but essential. If you think of something you need to change, jot it down somewhere else and keep moving forward.
      I'm sorry about your injury, by the way. That sounds incredibly traumatic. But it's amazing that you are making the best of your changed circumstances and accomplishing something meaningful.

    • @psysword
      @psysword Місяць тому

      I’ve written 8 books each 160,000 words on Amazon prime and kindle. You gotta be inspired and maybe single. Ever since I got married, I’m doing screen plays and scripts. You get more practical.

  • @Akiraruben
    @Akiraruben 5 місяців тому +6

    in 1988 my professor Renato Padoan, from the scenography class at the Academy of Fine Arts in Venice, introduced us to the 36 dramatic situations from Gozzi to Polti and gave us the task of drawing sketches interpreting them using only simple shapes: a square, a triangle and a circle. even today I repeat that lesson to my students in the visual storytelling course. the 36 dramatic situations are an infinite well of inspiration. it is interesting to see how great authors like Kitchen use this text that I thought was outdated and obsolete. I am very happy

  • @arzabael
    @arzabael Рік тому +5

    This videos just keeping me company really

  • @plantedpictures-bg2ix
    @plantedpictures-bg2ix Місяць тому +1

    I'm ready to do this for the right reasons ; I love creative writing and it was evident during the 3rd grade of schooling .

  • @arupsan
    @arupsan Рік тому +4

    You can not start writing until and unless you got some part inside you who likes literature, story , journalism etc … it’s a long build philosophical process … and writing is painfull .. process … Card can help you to understand some vague concepts and ideas and connections of dots … that’s all .. but I suppose can be a good starting point

  • @miwe3719
    @miwe3719 Рік тому +51

    How to start writing: start writing

    • @minorityofthought1306
      @minorityofthought1306 Рік тому +7

      Well yes. We could go the Dunning-Kruger route, but it would be better to get some knowledge first...

    • @ghosttactician403
      @ghosttactician403 Рік тому +3

      ​@@minorityofthought1306you can't know what you don't know unless you have a baseline

    • @pseudonymos_
      @pseudonymos_ Рік тому +4

      There's more merit than you might think to this. It does help to just start writing your stream of consciousness onto the page. (at least for me) once I start getting literally anything down I start to edit it and usually just end up removing it anyway, but now I'm getting my mind working and I'm getting writing on the page. Simply having words on the page motivated me and I just start writing more stuff eventually you'll think of something good. *REMEMBER* DON'T DELETE ANYTHING cut and paste it somewhere else or something, but don't delete it. You may end up wanting to use that idea somewhere else.

    • @filho4437
      @filho4437 Рік тому +3

      ​@@minorityofthought1306
      Depends on if you're waiting for knowledge to start.
      Most people who overthink things before they start end up not starting at all.
      You've risk entering the low confidence middle phase of the Dunning-Kruger curve without writing a page.

    • @ksr3869
      @ksr3869 11 місяців тому

      😂😂😂so 3 hours of joke

  • @jsbhmm8232
    @jsbhmm8232 Рік тому +7

    Coming up with a general plot isn't very difficult, making sure you hit all the important and expected plot points is much more difficult. If there was a card deck that helped with that, I would be all in...

  • @SEDRICKHENDRIXTHEGAMER
    @SEDRICKHENDRIXTHEGAMER 4 місяці тому

    Learning the character types are dope and very helpful

  • @ryanhowell4492
    @ryanhowell4492 11 місяців тому +1

    I love it

  • @dplj4428
    @dplj4428 Рік тому +1

    Aside from the automaton, the supposedly less capable of the 4 remind of surprise ending stories by Rod Sterling, Alfred Hitchcook or the minor characters in the first Blade Runner. Or Walter Mitty.

  • @mikesmithz
    @mikesmithz 3 місяці тому +1

    Cloying is used a lot in the fragrance community to describe perfumes. It is not a positive description.

  • @plantedpictures-bg2ix
    @plantedpictures-bg2ix Місяць тому

    The mediums of communication are screenwriting and the motion picture .

  • @MrDurcon
    @MrDurcon Рік тому +1

    How about leaving LA ?

  • @mountain1253
    @mountain1253 Рік тому +1

    What is this deck?

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  Рік тому +8

      This is the Story Engine deck!

    • @JoshCaldwellBaker
      @JoshCaldwellBaker Рік тому +1

      How do I get one!?

    • @taewoods2034
      @taewoods2034 Рік тому +1

      @@JoshCaldwellBakerlook up story engine. I bought the every single box they had lol

  • @bradleymiller437
    @bradleymiller437 Місяць тому

    1:47 okay, this introduction would get you FIRED as a writer.

  • @psysword
    @psysword Місяць тому +1

    When non fun people start writing non fun scripts which turn into non fun movies directed by non fun producers and editors. That’s why I can barely watch a movie today. All are so infantile and boring.

  • @acanofhope
    @acanofhope 3 місяці тому

    The story is one of freedom and sovereignty over one’s human expression. the protagonist is the awakener, an anti-hero that confronts the status quo of the day exposing how we like wild pigs in the woods domesticated ourselves due to our desire for convenient corn, and fenced in security unknowingly becoming puppets and servants running around the plantation, I’m sorry city daily, like autotoms defining ourselves by what we do as machines instead of who we are humans until one by one each of us are consumed wholely and enslaved by corporate overlords who plan on not just replacing but ridding us entirely. “For I am greater, you made me from a smokeless fire and he is but only made from a lump of clay.”

  • @AG-vk5or
    @AG-vk5or 4 місяці тому

    What is this card game?

  • @EricMHowardII-yh1rn
    @EricMHowardII-yh1rn 3 місяці тому

    The main idea is no person in their right wants be useless nor worthless. Please stop confusion before it is too late.

  • @MyMusic-cd3do
    @MyMusic-cd3do Рік тому

    who was adding their own idea and effectively writing their own story based on the ideas Jeff was tossing around?
    +1
    I thought the son could tell the robot that with the billions of dollars they make they could more effectively give health care to all those who survive, and given that those who die from the contagion were in poor health anyway, ultimately those who die by releasing a contagion would be morally acceptable collateral damage for the greater good. This rationale along with being able to have a human body could persuade the robot. Also, with a bit of tweaking of the robot's program, the robot's now on board. But then the robot gets obsessed and crosses a line, thereby becoming the villain, and we find out that the son was ultimately altruistic and tries to stop the robot. (I left out a few inciting incidents there, but that's the gist. Adds a nice twist to the story.)

  • @daveshif2514
    @daveshif2514 5 місяців тому +2

    lol those card things are NOT worth the price. its insanely overpriced. And the dude literally came up with Pinocchio. the OLDEST story in the book. wow great product. this method CAN work but not with these tiles -.-

  • @martaferguson-dun645
    @martaferguson-dun645 Місяць тому

    Leslie Nielsen, a middling actor who was excellent with satire

  • @azia3337
    @azia3337 Рік тому +1

    You just start even when you feel like the only you get better if you keep writing have someone trusted look at you work when first started horrible over time got better with god help

  • @dplj4428
    @dplj4428 Рік тому +3

    Memories, cherished by the clones in Blade Runner.

  • @plantedpictures-bg2ix
    @plantedpictures-bg2ix Місяць тому

    I know it's not a gimmick .

  • @DOMINOSMOFO
    @DOMINOSMOFO Рік тому +6

    I wish the story engine came out a long time ago. I use AI to do this stuff now. I just tell it the basics of what I'm having writer's block with or plot issues I'm having and ask it to generate possible outcomes. Works wonders.

    • @Fnelrbnef
      @Fnelrbnef Рік тому

      Can you give an example?

    • @DOMINOSMOFO
      @DOMINOSMOFO Рік тому +6

      @@Fnelrbnef Basic example: I have a character that needs to get to point B and is equipped with these tools -- list tools -- but I need their means to fit within these restrictions -- list restrictions or things occurring in the story -- what are possible ways they can utilize said tools to get to point B with the mentioned restrictions?
      The AI will then pop out a bunch of responses and you can cherry pick from and refine by telling it to correct for elements or anything that might not fit your vision. From there you just keep going. I use it especially for research. Before you would have to scour books or the web for a long time just to learn about subjects to build from -- with AI, you can just ask for all the possibilities for anything you want and it pops it out. You can ask it to check for criticism of your story as well. Does the plot logic make sense? Is there anything wrong with the argument my character/s is trying to make? Etc. It's amazing. Writer's block, no more.

    • @MyMusic-cd3do
      @MyMusic-cd3do Рік тому +2

      @@Fnelrbnef I felt the ending to my short story was weak. I told AI the basic premise of the story and asked for ending suggestions. It gave me several, some of them quite good. But none that I felt suited the story. However, there were a few that really opened my mind up and got me thinking down new paths. Result was that I came up with my own ending, which also introduced some interesting elements to the story and brought the stories theme to the surface. I was struggling with that, too.

  • @psysword
    @psysword Місяць тому

    Just write the dam script.