Sparring Big Guys From Hard2Hurt Gym +200lbs Fighter

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  • @GabrielVargaOfficial
    @GabrielVargaOfficial  2 роки тому +9

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  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt 2 роки тому +177

    Thanks for spending time and energy with our fighters. They all got a LOT out of the experience.

    • @MehrdadParthian
      @MehrdadParthian 2 роки тому +2

      thanks for making it happen. just by watching him and you guys while sitting at home, i've learned a lot. you're the man :)

    • @TeamDynamiteTV
      @TeamDynamiteTV 2 місяці тому

      Your bigs have great control.

  • @lukeskywalker2913
    @lukeskywalker2913 2 роки тому +146

    Man cliff is a tank but doesn't bully people in sparring gotta respect that. I always learn so much from your Vids Gabriel 💪

    • @GabrielVargaOfficial
      @GabrielVargaOfficial  2 роки тому +54

      Yeah. He does a great job fighting without his size advantage.
      Respect for that.

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane 2 роки тому +5

      @@GabrielVargaOfficial Cliff has a background with the JLFS (Joe Lewis Fighting System) which I really like.

    • @dirtpoorchris
      @dirtpoorchris 2 роки тому

      I cant tell if he needs headmovement training or being really really nice to his partner, tbh.

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane 2 роки тому +4

      @@dirtpoorchris Cliff is quite good. What is your MA experience?

    • @dirtpoorchris
      @dirtpoorchris 2 роки тому

      @@Docinaplane Oh I never said he was bad. I just cant tell because its the only video of his I seen and he didnt do headmovement in this 1 video. Maybe hes just giving Gabriel fences to go around.

  • @MrKyletheawesome
    @MrKyletheawesome 2 роки тому +76

    Would be amazing to see Wonderboy join in on the sparring. Watching Gabe and him would be so fun

    • @user-qv4fp9vm8u
      @user-qv4fp9vm8u 2 роки тому +1

      Agree it would be really cool

    • @moz5831
      @moz5831 2 роки тому +10

      That would not be just a fun video, that would be a fight which one should pay money to see. They are both former (?) KB champions and really amazing fighters. Some promoter organise a proper fight between proper youtube-fighters instead of this ”Jake Paul beats a senior citizen” -crap.

    • @jc-kj8yc
      @jc-kj8yc 2 роки тому +3

      @@moz5831 that's probably not going to happen due to their size difference. Wonderboy is much bigger than Varga. They are at least 2 weight classes apart.

    • @moz5831
      @moz5831 2 роки тому +3

      @@jc-kj8yc Oh yeah true, although they are about the same height, Varga is about 10kg lighter. He’s surprisingly slim guy.

  • @DPham1
    @DPham1 2 роки тому +14

    Gabriel, the fact that you don't sweep/dump ppl you don't know or haven't developed that sparring relationship with goes a long way to show how thoughtful you are. Because all it takes is one wrong fall to mess up a shoulder or snap a knee tendon/ligament

  • @baustellenschild7916
    @baustellenschild7916 7 місяців тому +2

    I think it also speaks to the level of Mike‘s gym and tutorage that his students, even when significantly bigger than their sparring partner, have that level of control over their power. Seems like a great place for learning and becoming a better fighter

  • @SireVV
    @SireVV 2 роки тому +24

    Maybe a video on size difference sparring etiquette? We all know about the BIG guy that won’t pull his strikes but we usually don’t hear about the little guy taking liberties with power or swarming after/catching kicks that would’ve broken their ribs or legs.

    • @user-qv4fp9vm8u
      @user-qv4fp9vm8u 2 роки тому +6

      Agree, sometimes the smaller dude throws way too hard and you cant give it back cause you know he is gonna get ducked up

    • @dirtpoorchris
      @dirtpoorchris 2 роки тому +5

      If a little guy punches me full force in the face during sparing I just give him 1 back and thats usually the end of that. Seeing as you can see them wobble just from the one half power clean shot... Actually they kinda get scared after that and just start going super super super soft. And as a big guy you have to learn that some of your high speed shots can actually KO a little guy even though you are putting zero muscle behind it and you have to be careful.

    • @jackjack4412
      @jackjack4412 2 роки тому

      @@dirtpoorchris how big are you?

    • @dirtpoorchris
      @dirtpoorchris 2 роки тому +2

      @@jackjack4412 250 lbs at 6' 0"

    • @SireVV
      @SireVV 2 роки тому +3

      @@dirtpoorchris I’m 6’3 205 and I usually settle them down with a front kick or leg kick because even just the speed of fast jab will snap their head back and I’ll feel bad, but at the same time I’m not someone’s heavy bag 😂

  • @jacobhochstetler825
    @jacobhochstetler825 2 роки тому +10

    I find this type of video extremely helpful. Seeing someone on your level spar and play with different types of people is fantastic.

  • @closeredge5198
    @closeredge5198 2 роки тому +2

    Interesting thought on the sweeps....IF a fighter refuses to control their aggression after being warned, I will immediate increase my knee strikes and sweeps...unfortunately some guys have to learn the hard way,and at 160 pounds I have to protect myself against larger guys similar to the ones in this video

  • @metrolinamartialarts
    @metrolinamartialarts 2 роки тому +5

    Great stuff as always Champ!

  • @rylewmma553
    @rylewmma553 2 роки тому +4

    Cliff is looking technical

    • @honigdachs.
      @honigdachs. 2 роки тому

      You don't often see guys that big pull off an axe kick like that. Other than Chubby Surprise Seth. 😆

  • @punasurf4697
    @punasurf4697 Рік тому +1

    I like that you don't grab kicks and dump people, especially in light sparing. I get annoyed if someone grabs my 1/2 speed kicks and dumps me. There is a reason the kick is 1/2 speed and power.

  • @BerserkerX
    @BerserkerX 2 роки тому +8

    Itd be great to spar with Gabriel. He's such a good partner.

    • @michaelmartinez3893
      @michaelmartinez3893 Рік тому +1

      Agreed. You'd learn a lot from sparring with him. I've picked up a few things from watching his videos.

  • @dirtpoorchris
    @dirtpoorchris 2 роки тому +6

    Its hard to spar realistically against 250 lbs person because they sorta have a "mauling effect" that happens when they are angry or fully committed, (like when Mike Tyson throws 5 strikes in 2 seconds and Mike Tyson was 218 lbs when champion). But a big guy can also just let you train on them, but its not exactly realistic to a real fight because he isnt flinching you and KO'ing you in 10 seconds. The stuff I let people land on me in sparring WOULD NEVER HAVE A HOPE OF TOUCHING me in a real fight against the same person. Its fun for the smaller person though if you Teddy bear up and let them practice, knowing you wont maul them.

    • @quiquecabedo6502
      @quiquecabedo6502 2 роки тому +1

      Shut up, we know big people are stronger, but they’re also slower, it’s logical

    • @quiquecabedo6502
      @quiquecabedo6502 2 роки тому +4

      Also Mike Tyson fought bigger guys than him, he was the small one, that’s a terrible example

    • @ptrgr72
      @ptrgr72 2 роки тому +4

      But you can also train for speed and reflexes with the lighter guy. In the end it is just sparring

    • @dirtpoorchris
      @dirtpoorchris 2 роки тому +2

      @@quiquecabedo6502 Uhhhh, not all big people are slow.

    • @dirtpoorchris
      @dirtpoorchris 2 роки тому

      @@quiquecabedo6502 Anyone over 200 lbs is capable of doing the mauling effect... If you are smaller u have to use aggression theory even more unless you are an iron worker with insane tendons or something.

  • @sirturd2954
    @sirturd2954 2 роки тому

    You scare the shit out of me, I’m glad some of the most lethal guys are the nicest.

  • @bannabanana6950
    @bannabanana6950 2 роки тому

    Thats so true about sweeping. Someone got paralysed from a judo throw

  • @Immigrantlovesamerica
    @Immigrantlovesamerica Рік тому

    Gabriel, you look small with a shrit and a hoodie on. You are actually shredded. Holy shit

  • @COACH_ANTHONY_MMA
    @COACH_ANTHONY_MMA 2 роки тому

    Very good controlled sparring.

  • @daxsheepard9344
    @daxsheepard9344 2 роки тому +1

    *This series is so so good Gabriel* :)

  • @thomasvalenti7898
    @thomasvalenti7898 2 роки тому +4

    Love your videos!

  • @MehrdadParthian
    @MehrdadParthian 2 роки тому +2

    one of the best decisions i've made was to subscribe to sensei seth a few months ago, and through his channel i got to know people like the legendary jesse enkamp, the wonderboy thompson, hard2hurt, kevin lee and now your channel. i'm instantly made into a big fan.
    also i have a question: in 1:24 you said, the other guy did a great job of not using his weight while sparring someone lighter. as a heavier guy myself i'm always wondering where is it that i might've just brute forced through my smaller sparring partner instead of using my technique. so my question is, what are some of the bad habits that a heavier person could have when sparring with a lighter partner ?

  • @Carrot421911
    @Carrot421911 Рік тому

    Maybe its just me, but when I watch fighters who have long hair, its SO much easier to see when they get hit in the head. The shock of the impact shows up so much better when their hair shakes. Isnt this a disadvantage when it comes to judging in MMA or kickboxing? Like when you sparred Cliff here, it was so clear when he got hit in the head even though you were going light.

  • @fightnationmitv2754
    @fightnationmitv2754 2 роки тому

    Love your episodes. And nice to know to not sweep everyone who is Infront of me... I never thought someone can get injured from it and I love sweeps... I mean I don't sweep new guys but a lot of the guys who ain't on my level I like to catch and sweep so they don't throw sloppy kicks. 😅

  • @krymera666x7
    @krymera666x7 2 роки тому

    This is the best sparring to stay loose and sharp. Not trying to kill each other, just lots of movement and working the techniques.

  • @FhargaZ
    @FhargaZ 2 роки тому

    3:17 yep, most injuries that i have seen in Muay thai training are from throws or falling badly.

  • @lordvoldemort3209
    @lordvoldemort3209 2 роки тому +3

    hey gabriel ,
    can you analyse the upcoming glory featherweight champion Dennis Wosik,
    he will defintley dethrone Petch
    Thank you. 😊

    • @grgov2239
      @grgov2239 2 роки тому +1

      Plazibat could dethrone Rico also

  • @goncaloalmeida7029
    @goncaloalmeida7029 2 роки тому +14

    Quick question: I was told not to get in the habit of trying to catch kicks thrown in sparring, since they come at a much lower speed than real life and that might screw me over if I do that with a full speed kick. What are your thoughts on that, since I see you catching kicks in these videos?

    • @JohnnyBit
      @JohnnyBit 2 роки тому +12

      If you also learn to step off the line of kick negating it's power it's fine. If you catch kick without moving, then you will eat kick unprotected and that's not good.

    • @chefxhyrule242
      @chefxhyrule242 2 роки тому

      That’s good advice, you can end up eating a head kick if you get used to catching kicks too much

    • @LeyvatenLoop
      @LeyvatenLoop 2 роки тому +2

      From my experience, coming from a kung fu school where we spar a lot and use mid and high kicks often, the way we solve this problem is following this rule of thumb: if you're sparring someone who can throw kicks fast while still holding them at the last moment to prevent strong impacts, then feel free to catch as many kicks as you can, but if you're sparring someone who can't kick that fast while still maintaining control, then only catch kicks if you read and predicted the opponent's movement, rather than reacted to it.
      Just remember: while being too confortable with trying to catch kicks is really bad, NOT training it in sparring is also really bad because you will have no experience with it

    • @Immigrantlovesamerica
      @Immigrantlovesamerica Рік тому

      You are not him. He's a 6x world champ. If youre starting out, dont catch kicks

    • @Ie4s
      @Ie4s 8 місяців тому

      Hes a high lvl champ your currently not

  • @ngominh7598
    @ngominh7598 2 роки тому

    This kind of clip is so helpful and fun

  • @nelly-lu3dq
    @nelly-lu3dq 2 роки тому +3

    for me sparring against taller partners is much easier compared to shorter fighters, although the taller guys hold back more.

    • @Ytterdahls
      @Ytterdahls 2 роки тому +3

      It can be annoying when they hold back too much. Like if they have Homelander’s strength with Hughie’s politeness.

    • @nelly-lu3dq
      @nelly-lu3dq 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ytterdahls yes it feels like you aren't learning much and they're just letting themselves become a punching bag :(

    • @columodonnell9202
      @columodonnell9202 2 роки тому +2

      I feel like part of this is because you cant rly throw good knees to the face, front kicks to the face etc in sparring, which usually work great against shorter guys

  • @gamemak0r
    @gamemak0r 2 роки тому +1

    I never realized Gabriel was so light. Thought he would be a similar weight to Izzy

    • @chefxhyrule242
      @chefxhyrule242 2 роки тому

      ?? Gabriel is like 5’11 he’d be way stockier if he was Izzy’s weight

  • @timm285
    @timm285 2 роки тому

    I’m not much of a fan of the Collabs, but I have to say Gabriel you are very nice guy. You could’ve Jacked these guys up and didn’t. I find that when good fighters hold back that’s when they can get hurt.

  • @robvilla_YT
    @robvilla_YT 2 роки тому +1

    How do you deal with a big taller opponent with Liam Harrison speed leg kicks 💀

  • @michaelmartinez3893
    @michaelmartinez3893 Рік тому

    I noticed that Cliff uses left leg to kick far more than his right.

  • @aminemizhar8356
    @aminemizhar8356 2 роки тому +1

    Is your kc contract allow you to fight in other promotions if it does go back to glory and fight petch to regain your title. Keep up champ.

  • @jeffs3119
    @jeffs3119 2 роки тому

    Love these keep it up.

  • @abrahamberlin4519
    @abrahamberlin4519 2 роки тому +1

    Whilen seeing your video, I remember when I do sparring.
    I'm 6'1" and I weigh 195lb, the thing is there is no a sparring partner around my weight (from 175lb to 200lb), so I have to spar with the heavy dudes (a guy that is 6' and weighs 240lb, a guy who is 6'5" and weighs around 220lb and a dude who is 6'3" and weighs around 240lb) It can be a bit unfair, but this is good for me, because I got accostumed quite easy to hard and heavy hits.
    The rest of my team are below 165lb and smaller, so is quite unfair to spar with them.

    • @eddard9442
      @eddard9442 2 роки тому

      i am 5'11 at 194lbs and i get wrecked by fighters in sparring that are 150lbs, one of them is 5'7 the other is 5'9 ish, they are too fast and can still hit hard and have cardio for days lol, should i just clinch more?

    • @abrahamberlin4519
      @abrahamberlin4519 2 роки тому

      @@eddard9442 I used to be under a same situations as you but my coach told me some tips
      Feints: feints create openings and or cause a reactions, so you can take advantage of that.. I use with a guy who is faster than me, but lighter. I cause an overextension on him to leave him exposed.
      Backwards boxing and kicking: it can be quite helpful to keep your hitting range whilst they can't reach you.
      Closing space while keeping the distance:
      The lighter guy usually knows that is suicidal to enter in a exchange of hits with a heavier guy, so he will try to create angles and throw a short combo and get out. If you close the spaces while keeping the distance with the jab or the teep, soon yoor opponent will have nowhere to run and this is the place where you need your opponent, you need your opponennt immobile.
      Wait for a counterattack: You must find an opening while hebis tryng to hit you or he is hitting, also you can defend his hits, and as soon as your opponent finish his combo, it's your turn to throw a hard combo.

  • @paulpelle3046
    @paulpelle3046 2 роки тому +1

    The Magnesium is for real btw. I’m on my second bottle, and it actually feels like cheating! That code won’t work for Brits. I’d *definitely* like the 25% off though 🤷‍♂️🤭🙏

  • @AroundElvesWatchUrselves96
    @AroundElvesWatchUrselves96 2 роки тому +1

    Did anybody try to double leg you at this gym?

  • @paulpelle3046
    @paulpelle3046 2 роки тому

    Lol! Even before the intro starts...you KNOW sh!t about to get real...and some big guys ‘bout to get some big lessons 😂💪🙏

  • @grgov2239
    @grgov2239 2 роки тому +2

    These guys are HWs (probably) and Gabriel still looks stronger then them, like more powerful, more "immovable"
    Guess there are levels to this

    • @martialartsunlimitedvictoria
      @martialartsunlimitedvictoria 2 роки тому +2

      His stance and body posture make him super stable! So many people leave themselves defensively vulnerable with poor stance/posture. Watch his foot placement and how he holds his body to give yourself a couple extra weight classes worth of stability!

    • @grgov2239
      @grgov2239 2 роки тому +4

      @@martialartsunlimitedvictoria Yes I agree
      Ppl who never fought dont understand that.
      I have around 80kgs and I can stand my ground against my firend who has over 110Kgs (we started training together at the same time)
      When I spar with our coach who is even few kgs lighter then me I just crumble
      It feels like Im facing a "immovable" person

    • @dirtpoorchris
      @dirtpoorchris 2 роки тому +2

      Gabriel has alot of muscle for a lighter guy. Id consider him medium and hella fast.

    • @user-qv4fp9vm8u
      @user-qv4fp9vm8u 2 роки тому +3

      If Cliff really wanted to move him and bully him he would.
      There is a reason weight classes exist

    • @grgov2239
      @grgov2239 2 роки тому

      @@user-qv4fp9vm8u I dont know who Cliff is,but these 2 guys dont have the skill for that and it can be seen that their body mechanics are underdeveloped
      Guys above said "Cliff is a wrestler" so yea in a no rules or mma fight that guy would push Gabriel back and most likely beat him up
      In a kickboxing neither of these two guys would stand a chance even though they are not the same size

  • @azzcoulton123
    @azzcoulton123 2 роки тому

    Liking this sh* likee

  • @user-qv4fp9vm8u
    @user-qv4fp9vm8u 2 роки тому +3

    Imo Cliff needs to stop holding back so much and loosen up a bit more

    • @dieselx999
      @dieselx999 2 роки тому

      They're sparring light getting work in if he did that there would be no benefit but to build his ego.

    • @user-qv4fp9vm8u
      @user-qv4fp9vm8u 2 роки тому +1

      @@dieselx999 what benefit would you give someone if you allow yourself to become a punching bag?
      I only said he should let himself go a *little* bit, not totally try to take Gabriel's head off

    • @astonprice-lockhart7261
      @astonprice-lockhart7261 2 роки тому +2

      Controlled sparring is a skill set all on it's own. I fluctuate between 160-170 and even when I sparred people larger than me, I had to really be careful because of my speed and flexibility. My point is when you're larger, that jab can feel like a cross especially when it's well placed.