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  • @SALAMInitiative
    @SALAMInitiative  3 роки тому +12

    HOPE YOU GUYS ENJOYED THE VIDEO!! SUPPORT OUR NEW DAWAH TABLE AT THE LINK BELOW: salam.org.uk/donate/

    • @m.a.el-majdub7393
      @m.a.el-majdub7393 3 роки тому

      May Allah bless you! Assalamualikum from a Libyan in Switzerland

  • @matheen8574
    @matheen8574 3 роки тому +136

    "Democracy is like two wolves and one sheep voting on what to eat for dinner"
    ~ forgot who said it

    • @manabouttown2739
      @manabouttown2739 3 роки тому +2

      ..the obviously dead sheep's dejected mother..

    • @Echo-xf8op
      @Echo-xf8op 3 роки тому

      Yup

    • @GabrieLight
      @GabrieLight 3 роки тому +4

      @@solo741
      Explain.

    • @misbahailia3345
      @misbahailia3345 3 роки тому

      Ikr, it's not rocket Science.

    • @pundit992
      @pundit992 3 роки тому

      @@GabrieLight I'll explain, the guy with the bomb, bombs the poor sheep. Very easy

  • @Trapattoni21
    @Trapattoni21 3 роки тому +118

    One thing that I always saw happening in the park is that when the Christians or the Atheists realizes that they just lost the debate against our Muslims brothers, they started to bring up the same lame excuse which is 'oh, I only have 5 or 10 minutes left'🤣🤣

    • @dragieultra6603
      @dragieultra6603 3 роки тому +2

      cant say that that's always the case..... cuz what if some of them genuinely had to leave? what are they suppose to do then?

    • @Trapattoni21
      @Trapattoni21 3 роки тому +5

      @@dragieultra6603 in some cases, maybe yes. But if you look at most of the videos of the debates, you can see that once they were cornered with a logical argument that would leave them no choice but to agree with the brothers, they started to bring up that excuses to avoid themselves from the truths which is unfortunate

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому

      ** READ **
      The first hurdle that ISLAM cannot get over.
      Muhammad was never a true prophet.
      I say that because, a true prophet must receive a direct call from God, especially if he is to be the founder of a religion.
      Muhammad did not receive a direct call from God.
      Let's start from the beginning.
      Muhammad was one day meditating in the cave, a spirit visited him, pressed his chest tightly such that, he thought he was going to die. But on each occasion, Muhammad told the spirit he was illiterate and couldn't read.
      After this encounter with the spirit in the cave, Muhammad thought he had been visited by a demon and ran to his wife in fear. He said to Khadija, his wife, 'cover me' she covered him until his fear was over.
      Muhammad related what had transpired in the cave to his wife and said, 'O Khadija, what is wrong with me? What has happened to me? I am afraid for myself! However, Khadija and on the advice of lbn Neafal her cousin managed to convince Muhammad that the spirit was Gabriel.
      But the spirit did not introduce itself as the angel Gabriel.
      **************************
      It is of great importance to identify the spirit who squeezed Muhammad at the cave of Hira near Mecca.
      **************************
      Was the spirit really angel Gabriel?
      *****************************
      The answer is absolutely NO!
      *****************************
      1) Had the spirit been Gabriel, he would have calmed Muhammad and relieved his fear. But the spirit left him in extreme distress. The angel Gabriel appeared to many people before his alleged visit to Muhammad and each time the first thing he did was to allay that person's fear.
      i. When Gabriel appeared to Daniel, he was afraid but Gabriel touched him. Gabriel did not squeeze him or cause him pain, Gabriel only touched him (Daniel 8:16-18).
      ii. The angel Gabriel also appeared to Zachariah father of John the Baptist who is called Yahya in the Qur'an he identified himself and said to Zachariah : Do not be afraid, Zacharia ...... I am angel Gabriel that stand in the presence of God (Luke 1:13-19)
      iii. Gabriel appeared to Mary, MOTHER of JESUS CHRIST our Lord.
      Mary was scared but Gabriel said to her: Do not be afraid, Mary (Luke 1:30)
      2) Had the spirit been Gabriel, he would not have contradicted his former revelations. Six hundred (600) years before the birth of Muhammad, the real angel Gabriel said to Mary that she would bear a child who will be the Son of God: The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35).
      But the spirit which appeared to Muhammad told him JESUS was not the son of God:... The Christians call Christ the son of Allah .... Allah's curse be on them (Sura 9:30).
      If; the spirit that appeared to Muhammad were angel Gabriel, it would not have said JESUS was not the son of God.
      3) Had the spirit been Gabriel. He would have taught Muhammad to read and write.
      The Qur'an declares that Allah taught JESUS how to write: "'And Allah will teach him the book and wisdom, the Torah and the gospel" (Sura 3:48).
      The famous Qur'an Commentator ibn Kathir in his exposition of the Qur'an (vol.1 p.344) says:
      'The book mentioned here means write. We would expect that Mohammed, who calls himself the seal of the prophets, would be taught to read and write.
      The spirit said in his revelation to Muhammad Read: and thy lord the most Bounteous, who teaches by the pen, teacheth man that which he know not (Sura 96:3-4).
      The question is if God teaches man that which he know not by the pen, why did he not teach Muhammad (the 'senior prophet) how to read and write instead of leaving him illiterate all his life?
      4) We learn from Islamic tradition that on several occasions when Muhammad saw the spirit, he would be so frightened he would run home to his wife and ask her to cover him with clothes:
      "I was called again and raised my head, and there on the Throne in the open atmosphere he, i.e. Gabriel (peace be upon him) was sitting. I began to tremble on account of fear. I came to Khadija and said: Wrap me up.
      They wrapped me up and threw water on me..." (Sahih Muslim book 1 ch.74 no.307 p.100. Narrated by Jabir)
      At other times, Muhammad experienced some strange physical symptoms. From Hadith Mishkat, we learn that, sometimes he would shrive and swoon, roar like a camel and white foamy saliva would come from his mouth (Hadith Mishkat iv p.359).
      Sometimes when he receive revelation(s) there was the sound like the buzzing of bees near his face (source: Umar Ibnu'l Khattab), while at other times, he felt a tremendous headache.
      Muhammad once said: "At times it comes to me like the ringing of a bell and that is most severe for me... and at time an Angel in the form of a human being comes to me... (Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 28 no.5765-5767 p.1248)
      However, it is unclear why Mohammed later said, "...The bell is the musical instrument of Satan." Sahih Muslim vol.3 book 22 no.5279, also Abu Dawud vol.2 no.2548 -2550
      According Ahmad b. Hanbal, "He became distressed, foaming at the mouth and closing his eyes. At times he snorted like a young camel (Ahmad b. Hanbal I, 34, 464, vi.163). This gave rise to the allegation in certain quarters Muhammad was epileptic.
      Prophet Muhammad according to 'Amr Ibn Sharhabil, mentioned to his wife, Khadija, that he feared he was possessed by demons and wondered whether others consider him possessed [i.e. evil spirits] (source: pfanoter 1910:345).
      These statements about the physical symptoms exhibited by Muhammad when he saw the spirit were not made by strangers, non Muslims or people who did not know him.
      These statements were made by Aisha, Muhammad's favourite wife, relatives and his close followers who strongly believed that he was the seal of the prophets.
      All these people happened to be very close to Muhammad, whom knew the alleged prophet well!
      Yet when the same angel Gabriel visited Daniel, Zachariah and even Mary, none of them had convulsions with foam coming from their mouths.
      Neither did they hear the sounds of bells ringing nor the buzzing of bees near their faces. They did not roar like a camel or swoon, etc.
      Over time Muhammad started having some doubts about the revelations he received from the spirit.
      Allah (God) directed Muhammad to check the truth from the 'Book:'
      If thou wert in doubt as to what we have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book from before thee (Sura Yunus 10:94).
      The 'book' mentioned in this verse is the Holy Bible.
      If Muhammad were a learned man, he would have known what the Holy Bible says concerning Satan:
      And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:14)
      Mohammed was not only deceived then, but the hadiths record that later he was under an evil spell too. (Bukhari vol.4 book 53 chapter 34 and vol.4 no.400 p.267)
      (Article credited to Dr Labib).
      While truth can be painful, I do not mean to offend; my hope is that all muslims will find the truth and embrace JESUS wholeheartedly - not thru Islam but thru the teachings of the HOLY BIBLE - Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen.
      Peace be unto you all.
      Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому

      @@solo741
      That is only your assumption brother.

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому

      @@solo741
      What has been handed down thru generations is the true belief in our salvation.
      Millions of people died in the wars and before each and everyone if them that died I believe they sought GOD for salvation.
      The real question is not our values but the truth in death.
      Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen
      Peace be unto you Brother

  • @καδωαας
    @καδωαας 3 роки тому +14

    i am hindu and i respectfully support ali's journey to seeking truth.
    aren't we all seeking truth in our own ways?

  • @watvid1
    @watvid1 3 роки тому +52

    You should have told him Tommy Robinson said there's 100+ violent verses in Quran but when pressed, he couldn't give any. So there are people that make claims just to solely target Islam, not because they believe them, but simply to provoke.

    • @Roseblindbags123
      @Roseblindbags123 3 роки тому +2

      Should sue him for slander

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому

      ** READ **
      The first hurdle that ISLAM cannot get over.
      Muhammad was never a true prophet.
      I say that because, a true prophet must receive a direct call from God, especially if he is to be the founder of a religion.
      Muhammad did not receive a direct call from God.
      Let's start from the beginning.
      Muhammad was one day meditating in the cave, a spirit visited him, pressed his chest tightly such that, he thought he was going to die. But on each occasion, Muhammad told the spirit he was illiterate and couldn't read.
      After this encounter with the spirit in the cave, Muhammad thought he had been visited by a demon and ran to his wife in fear. He said to Khadija, his wife, 'cover me' she covered him until his fear was over.
      Muhammad related what had transpired in the cave to his wife and said, 'O Khadija, what is wrong with me? What has happened to me? I am afraid for myself! However, Khadija and on the advice of lbn Neafal her cousin managed to convince Muhammad that the spirit was Gabriel.
      But the spirit did not introduce itself as the angel Gabriel.
      **************************
      It is of great importance to identify the spirit who squeezed Muhammad at the cave of Hira near Mecca.
      **************************
      Was the spirit really angel Gabriel?
      *****************************
      The answer is absolutely NO!
      *****************************
      1) Had the spirit been Gabriel, he would have calmed Muhammad and relieved his fear. But the spirit left him in extreme distress. The angel Gabriel appeared to many people before his alleged visit to Muhammad and each time the first thing he did was to allay that person's fear.
      i. When Gabriel appeared to Daniel, he was afraid but Gabriel touched him. Gabriel did not squeeze him or cause him pain, Gabriel only touched him (Daniel 8:16-18).
      ii. The angel Gabriel also appeared to Zachariah father of John the Baptist who is called Yahya in the Qur'an he identified himself and said to Zachariah : Do not be afraid, Zacharia ...... I am angel Gabriel that stand in the presence of God (Luke 1:13-19)
      iii. Gabriel appeared to Mary, MOTHER of JESUS CHRIST our Lord.
      Mary was scared but Gabriel said to her: Do not be afraid, Mary (Luke 1:30)
      2) Had the spirit been Gabriel, he would not have contradicted his former revelations. Six hundred (600) years before the birth of Muhammad, the real angel Gabriel said to Mary that she would bear a child who will be the Son of God: The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35).
      But the spirit which appeared to Muhammad told him JESUS was not the son of God:... The Christians call Christ the son of Allah .... Allah's curse be on them (Sura 9:30).
      If; the spirit that appeared to Muhammad were angel Gabriel, it would not have said JESUS was not the son of God.
      3) Had the spirit been Gabriel. He would have taught Muhammad to read and write.
      The Qur'an declares that Allah taught JESUS how to write: "'And Allah will teach him the book and wisdom, the Torah and the gospel" (Sura 3:48).
      The famous Qur'an Commentator ibn Kathir in his exposition of the Qur'an (vol.1 p.344) says:
      'The book mentioned here means write. We would expect that Mohammed, who calls himself the seal of the prophets, would be taught to read and write.
      The spirit said in his revelation to Muhammad Read: and thy lord the most Bounteous, who teaches by the pen, teacheth man that which he know not (Sura 96:3-4).
      The question is if God teaches man that which he know not by the pen, why did he not teach Muhammad (the 'senior prophet) how to read and write instead of leaving him illiterate all his life?
      4) We learn from Islamic tradition that on several occasions when Muhammad saw the spirit, he would be so frightened he would run home to his wife and ask her to cover him with clothes:
      "I was called again and raised my head, and there on the Throne in the open atmosphere he, i.e. Gabriel (peace be upon him) was sitting. I began to tremble on account of fear. I came to Khadija and said: Wrap me up.
      They wrapped me up and threw water on me..." (Sahih Muslim book 1 ch.74 no.307 p.100. Narrated by Jabir)
      At other times, Muhammad experienced some strange physical symptoms. From Hadith Mishkat, we learn that, sometimes he would shrive and swoon, roar like a camel and white foamy saliva would come from his mouth (Hadith Mishkat iv p.359).
      Sometimes when he receive revelation(s) there was the sound like the buzzing of bees near his face (source: Umar Ibnu'l Khattab), while at other times, he felt a tremendous headache.
      Muhammad once said: "At times it comes to me like the ringing of a bell and that is most severe for me... and at time an Angel in the form of a human being comes to me... (Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 28 no.5765-5767 p.1248)
      However, it is unclear why Mohammed later said, "...The bell is the musical instrument of Satan." Sahih Muslim vol.3 book 22 no.5279, also Abu Dawud vol.2 no.2548 -2550
      According Ahmad b. Hanbal, "He became distressed, foaming at the mouth and closing his eyes. At times he snorted like a young camel (Ahmad b. Hanbal I, 34, 464, vi.163). This gave rise to the allegation in certain quarters Muhammad was epileptic.
      Prophet Muhammad according to 'Amr Ibn Sharhabil, mentioned to his wife, Khadija, that he feared he was possessed by demons and wondered whether others consider him possessed [i.e. evil spirits] (source: pfanoter 1910:345).
      These statements about the physical symptoms exhibited by Muhammad when he saw the spirit were not made by strangers, non Muslims or people who did not know him.
      These statements were made by Aisha, Muhammad's favourite wife, relatives and his close followers who strongly believed that he was the seal of the prophets.
      All these people happened to be very close to Muhammad, whom knew the alleged prophet well!
      Yet when the same angel Gabriel visited Daniel, Zachariah and even Mary, none of them had convulsions with foam coming from their mouths.
      Neither did they hear the sounds of bells ringing nor the buzzing of bees near their faces. They did not roar like a camel or swoon, etc.
      Over time Muhammad started having some doubts about the revelations he received from the spirit.
      Allah (God) directed Muhammad to check the truth from the 'Book:'
      If thou wert in doubt as to what we have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book from before thee (Sura Yunus 10:94).
      The 'book' mentioned in this verse is the Holy Bible.
      If Muhammad were a learned man, he would have known what the Holy Bible says concerning Satan:
      And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:14)
      Mohammed was not only deceived then, but the hadiths record that later he was under an evil spell too. (Bukhari vol.4 book 53 chapter 34 and vol.4 no.400 p.267)
      (Article credited to Dr Labib).
      While truth can be painful, I do not mean to offend; my hope is that all muslims will find the truth and embrace JESUS wholeheartedly - not thru Islam but thru the teachings of the HOLY BIBLE - Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen.
      Peace be unto you all.
      Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen

  • @TheMuslimPerspective
    @TheMuslimPerspective 3 роки тому +87

    There is a huge difference between freedom of speech and hurting others. If freedom of speech is used to hurt other's freedom, we dont want it.

    • @carpediem7654
      @carpediem7654 3 роки тому +3

      Then you need to get out of the west and go back to your islamic utopia.

    • @Nothingburger90
      @Nothingburger90 3 роки тому +10

      @@carpediem7654 actually, if the west didnt meddle in muslim country, maybe we can get that. see what happen when Brunei TRIED to implement the sharia law in THEIR OWN country? the west threat sanction. see how brutal the western world is?

    • @carpediem7654
      @carpediem7654 3 роки тому +2

      @@Nothingburger90 the west dominates you. Be quiet and fall in line.

    • @Nothingburger90
      @Nothingburger90 3 роки тому +7

      @@carpediem7654 no

    • @Stand4Righteousness
      @Stand4Righteousness 3 роки тому +6

      @@carpediem7654 the west locked ur ass in for a year mate ur the ones getting dominated

  • @scaryjoker
    @scaryjoker 3 роки тому +34

    21:00 WOWWWW!!!!!!!! Hatuns actions are Christ like wow. This needs to be the number one question in speakers corner from now on. "Is it christ-like to drill holes in the Qur'an and insult the prophet?"

  • @majidmahmood6778
    @majidmahmood6778 3 роки тому +6

    Ali Dawah your attitude and personality is on point and you are humble person. Your a great inspiration to Muslims

  • @Albert_David192
    @Albert_David192 3 роки тому +15

    I am from Bangladesh🇧🇩.Jajakallah brother Ali Dawah

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому +1

      ** READ **
      The first hurdle that ISLAM cannot get over.
      Muhammad was never a true prophet.
      I say that because, a true prophet must receive a direct call from God, especially if he is to be the founder of a religion.
      Muhammad did not receive a direct call from God.
      Let's start from the beginning.
      Muhammad was one day meditating in the cave, a spirit visited him, pressed his chest tightly such that, he thought he was going to die. But on each occasion, Muhammad told the spirit he was illiterate and couldn't read.
      After this encounter with the spirit in the cave, Muhammad thought he had been visited by a demon and ran to his wife in fear. He said to Khadija, his wife, 'cover me' she covered him until his fear was over.
      Muhammad related what had transpired in the cave to his wife and said, 'O Khadija, what is wrong with me? What has happened to me? I am afraid for myself! However, Khadija and on the advice of lbn Neafal her cousin managed to convince Muhammad that the spirit was Gabriel.
      But the spirit did not introduce itself as the angel Gabriel.
      **************************
      It is of great importance to identify the spirit who squeezed Muhammad at the cave of Hira near Mecca.
      **************************
      Was the spirit really angel Gabriel?
      *****************************
      The answer is absolutely NO!
      *****************************
      1) Had the spirit been Gabriel, he would have calmed Muhammad and relieved his fear. But the spirit left him in extreme distress. The angel Gabriel appeared to many people before his alleged visit to Muhammad and each time the first thing he did was to allay that person's fear.
      i. When Gabriel appeared to Daniel, he was afraid but Gabriel touched him. Gabriel did not squeeze him or cause him pain, Gabriel only touched him (Daniel 8:16-18).
      ii. The angel Gabriel also appeared to Zachariah father of John the Baptist who is called Yahya in the Qur'an he identified himself and said to Zachariah : Do not be afraid, Zacharia ...... I am angel Gabriel that stand in the presence of God (Luke 1:13-19)
      iii. Gabriel appeared to Mary, MOTHER of JESUS CHRIST our Lord.
      Mary was scared but Gabriel said to her: Do not be afraid, Mary (Luke 1:30)
      2) Had the spirit been Gabriel, he would not have contradicted his former revelations. Six hundred (600) years before the birth of Muhammad, the real angel Gabriel said to Mary that she would bear a child who will be the Son of God: The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35).
      But the spirit which appeared to Muhammad told him JESUS was not the son of God:... The Christians call Christ the son of Allah .... Allah's curse be on them (Sura 9:30).
      If; the spirit that appeared to Muhammad were angel Gabriel, it would not have said JESUS was not the son of God.
      3) Had the spirit been Gabriel. He would have taught Muhammad to read and write.
      The Qur'an declares that Allah taught JESUS how to write: "'And Allah will teach him the book and wisdom, the Torah and the gospel" (Sura 3:48).
      The famous Qur'an Commentator ibn Kathir in his exposition of the Qur'an (vol.1 p.344) says:
      'The book mentioned here means write. We would expect that Mohammed, who calls himself the seal of the prophets, would be taught to read and write.
      The spirit said in his revelation to Muhammad Read: and thy lord the most Bounteous, who teaches by the pen, teacheth man that which he know not (Sura 96:3-4).
      The question is if God teaches man that which he know not by the pen, why did he not teach Muhammad (the 'senior prophet) how to read and write instead of leaving him illiterate all his life?
      4) We learn from Islamic tradition that on several occasions when Muhammad saw the spirit, he would be so frightened he would run home to his wife and ask her to cover him with clothes:
      "I was called again and raised my head, and there on the Throne in the open atmosphere he, i.e. Gabriel (peace be upon him) was sitting. I began to tremble on account of fear. I came to Khadija and said: Wrap me up.
      They wrapped me up and threw water on me..." (Sahih Muslim book 1 ch.74 no.307 p.100. Narrated by Jabir)
      At other times, Muhammad experienced some strange physical symptoms. From Hadith Mishkat, we learn that, sometimes he would shrive and swoon, roar like a camel and white foamy saliva would come from his mouth (Hadith Mishkat iv p.359).
      Sometimes when he receive revelation(s) there was the sound like the buzzing of bees near his face (source: Umar Ibnu'l Khattab), while at other times, he felt a tremendous headache.
      Muhammad once said: "At times it comes to me like the ringing of a bell and that is most severe for me... and at time an Angel in the form of a human being comes to me... (Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 28 no.5765-5767 p.1248)
      However, it is unclear why Mohammed later said, "...The bell is the musical instrument of Satan." Sahih Muslim vol.3 book 22 no.5279, also Abu Dawud vol.2 no.2548 -2550
      According Ahmad b. Hanbal, "He became distressed, foaming at the mouth and closing his eyes. At times he snorted like a young camel (Ahmad b. Hanbal I, 34, 464, vi.163). This gave rise to the allegation in certain quarters Muhammad was epileptic.
      Prophet Muhammad according to 'Amr Ibn Sharhabil, mentioned to his wife, Khadija, that he feared he was possessed by demons and wondered whether others consider him possessed [i.e. evil spirits] (source: pfanoter 1910:345).
      These statements about the physical symptoms exhibited by Muhammad when he saw the spirit were not made by strangers, non Muslims or people who did not know him.
      These statements were made by Aisha, Muhammad's favourite wife, relatives and his close followers who strongly believed that he was the seal of the prophets.
      All these people happened to be very close to Muhammad, whom knew the alleged prophet well!
      Yet when the same angel Gabriel visited Daniel, Zachariah and even Mary, none of them had convulsions with foam coming from their mouths.
      Neither did they hear the sounds of bells ringing nor the buzzing of bees near their faces. They did not roar like a camel or swoon, etc.
      Over time Muhammad started having some doubts about the revelations he received from the spirit.
      Allah (God) directed Muhammad to check the truth from the 'Book:'
      If thou wert in doubt as to what we have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book from before thee (Sura Yunus 10:94).
      The 'book' mentioned in this verse is the Holy Bible.
      If Muhammad were a learned man, he would have known what the Holy Bible says concerning Satan:
      And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:14)
      Mohammed was not only deceived then, but the hadiths record that later he was under an evil spell too. (Bukhari vol.4 book 53 chapter 34 and vol.4 no.400 p.267)
      (Article credited to Dr Labib).
      While truth can be painful, I do not mean to offend; my hope is that all muslims will find the truth and embrace JESUS wholeheartedly - not thru Islam but thru the teachings of the HOLY BIBLE - Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen.
      Peace be unto you all.
      Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen

    • @hishaambaig1858
      @hishaambaig1858 3 роки тому

      @@thepilgrim1581 3 != 1 goodbye.

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому

      @@hishaambaig1858
      Yes.
      1x1x1= 1
      Amen

    • @scoutmahdi6107
      @scoutmahdi6107 3 роки тому

      @@thepilgrim1581 There are 3 Cats,3Dogs and 3 Chicken. How many creatures are there?
      A. 3+3+3
      B. 3×3×3
      Choose the correct option.
      Hint: We don't multiply the numbers of objects to count.

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому

      @@scoutmahdi6107
      Lol.... Your posting has proved the unfathomable stupidity within ISLAM.

  • @TruthhasArrived
    @TruthhasArrived 3 роки тому +43

    Kaaba was built by Abraham and the pagans later on put idols in there, so it was a monotheistic house of God prior to it getting polluted by idols. So when Muslims took it back they cleansed it of idols. Thats not the same as people mocking and denigrating the Sacred Scriptures on a daily basis. Iconoclasm is not the same as desecrating each others scruptures

    • @pessimistkai5569
      @pessimistkai5569 3 роки тому

      They were still insulting gods of the other people.

    • @ozcoleman7914
      @ozcoleman7914 3 роки тому +9

      @@pessimistkai5569 no insults, don't think you've read the history as they all became Muslim due to the respectful dignified manner, then half of the world
      syill growing at an alarming rate due to the truths

    • @pessimistkai5569
      @pessimistkai5569 3 роки тому +1

      @@ozcoleman7914 what I meant was when they destroyed the idols they were hurting the feelings of those people. Just like Hatun is doing by drilling holes in the Quran. Be consistent.

    • @TruthhasArrived
      @TruthhasArrived 3 роки тому +9

      @@pessimistkai5569 not the same that was a one off thing to reclaim the Kaaba, there were no insults made on a regular basis and the pagans still practiced their faith after. What Hatun does is quite different day in day out coming with cartoons of the Prophet pbuh, wearing Charlie Hebdo tshirts, drilling holes on the Quran etc. She was doing it deliberately knowing she would be offending Muslims as she realised she would lose in rational discussions with Muslims thats why she resorted to this

    • @spreadtheword2066
      @spreadtheword2066 3 роки тому +2

      @@pessimistkai5569like Ali said, if you conquered the place, then there is no problem with getting rid of the things that represent their religion.

  • @abumansaray7
    @abumansaray7 3 роки тому +12

    That Adam guy made the conversation way more complicated than it is. He was more interested in trying to impress the camera and the female than actually putting forth an argument. Trying too hard to be intelligent.

  • @sarahkivo81
    @sarahkivo81 3 роки тому +15

    I kept repeating this clip: “I’m not willing to make the positive assertion that it’s ungodly but I’m unwilling to make the negative assertion that it’s ungodly. There is a slight difference”. So what I got from that is, “its not godly but neither would I say it’s ungodly if I saw a fellow Christian decimate the Quran”. It seems like there is a false sentiment to the whole idea of “peace and love” when it’s human nature to do something so insulting to ones religion rather than to go and have an intellectual discussion with someone. And NO, there is no context in which you prove a point to someone by burning their holy scriptures. This Christian seems to be struggling with his moral conscious from that statement he made. Believe me, these people will have you thinking that they are very intelligent with how articulate they seem to be, but if you listen closely you can very easily dismantle their argument.
    Have a good evening everyone inshallah!

  • @haideraliibnakhlaq8823
    @haideraliibnakhlaq8823 3 роки тому +64

    Insulting ones mother is not christ like but insulting the prophet who is more beloved than our mother is Christ like - very logical and consistent like the Christian faith 😂🤦‍♂️

    • @khalidaser1430
      @khalidaser1430 3 роки тому +2

      Actually he had a point there, he said that there are some things that are not paramount to faith, and there is no need, in his opinion, to attack that, but when it comes to the Prophet, he is a necessary figure on our faith, therefore they would attack with characatures and insults to fight against falsehood. All in all, Ali didn't do a great job in this discussion, I would love to see Hijab or Shamsi engage with him.

    • @themercifulguard3971
      @themercifulguard3971 3 роки тому +7

      @@khalidaser1430 "therefore they would attack with characatures and insults to fight against falsehood"
      Attacking their perception of falsehood this way is un-Christlike and absolutely despicable. Not even Jesus PBUH wants that. I don't get what you're saying here.
      In Islam, on the other hand, we shouldn't even combat falsehood this way. We ought to do it academically and professionally.

    • @St705
      @St705 3 роки тому

      @@themercifulguard3971 hahaha
      since when have any muslim dawah missionaries acted "academically or professionally "? All I see is heckling and answering questions with questions.

    • @zaeemtahir3132
      @zaeemtahir3132 3 роки тому

      @@St705 see time

    • @St705
      @St705 3 роки тому

      @@zaeemtahir3132 ?????

  • @salmanzakaria1029
    @salmanzakaria1029 3 роки тому +39

    Insulting is not freedom of speech

    • @Echo-xf8op
      @Echo-xf8op 3 роки тому

      100% right!

    • @robertdarnhofer536
      @robertdarnhofer536 3 роки тому

      problem is at what point is critic insulting and how to tell whats right and wrong? is it sexist if you debunk the gender pay gap? is it racist if you ask somebody where they are from? human perception can be misleading...

    • @misbahailia3345
      @misbahailia3345 3 роки тому

      Insulting is freedom of bullying.

  • @zeropulses9180
    @zeropulses9180 3 роки тому +3

    This video starts from 17:42 if you saw the other video on Ali Dawah's channel first.

  • @watvid1
    @watvid1 3 роки тому +37

    The Prophet Peace be upon him destroying the idols once the city was conquered is different to hatun damaging a Quran to offend in a secular land.
    It's like buying a house and changing the wallpaper vs going into some strangers house and taking down their wallpaper.

    • @pessimistkai5569
      @pessimistkai5569 3 роки тому +1

      It was still hurtful for the people who believed in those idols.

    • @pessimistkai5569
      @pessimistkai5569 3 роки тому +1

      Christian guy made a fair point.

    • @nasheeds8218
      @nasheeds8218 3 роки тому +5

      @@pessimistkai5569 didnt christian britain conquer other countries and destroy mosques? - yes they did

    • @watvid1
      @watvid1 3 роки тому +15

      @@pessimistkai5569 You need to know the history. That was once the Prophet Peace be upon him had conquered Makkah, his home city where the Muslims were persecuted for more than a decade. Stabbed through the groin, burned with iron rods, held down by boulders in the desert heat, boycotted to the point of starvation, forced to leave their homes etc. The idols weren't destroyed on a whim.

    • @pessimistkai5569
      @pessimistkai5569 3 роки тому

      @@watvid1 same with prophet ibrahim?
      Read my first comment again. That's the point I am making

  • @samojerom1046
    @samojerom1046 3 роки тому +13

    "RESPECT" is the only way to bring peace in any multi culture community, if there is no RESPECT there will be no peace . freedom of speech doesn't give you freedom to insult others by anyway . freedom must have red lines should not to cross it .

    • @sensaiathleticz8725
      @sensaiathleticz8725 3 роки тому

      this is white supremacy at its finest, what they do is bring up talking points to objectify all the valid talking points, they ignored him everytime he said if we will go to a black neighborhood and do so and so. The reply is well thats different or i dont want to get off into that. lol im from the us i thought uk was a bit better. smh

    • @illegaldocz
      @illegaldocz 2 роки тому

      Perfectly said

  • @saynomore8183
    @saynomore8183 3 роки тому

    حقك ينتهي عند تعديك على حق الاخرين in Arabic we have saying “Your right ends when you violate the right of other people”

  • @mistermannan
    @mistermannan 3 роки тому +3

    6:30 that guy. How does he come in to such a simple conversation and make it so complicated ?

  • @aadamsheikh6030
    @aadamsheikh6030 2 роки тому

    “Do u want Britain to be about British”😂😭😭clocked what he was on about straight away

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 3 роки тому +2

    May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!

  • @BossBoss-dz9gk
    @BossBoss-dz9gk 3 роки тому +2

    Love how Ali let's him have his say hatun and these so called Christians could never.

  • @basedmuslimbooks
    @basedmuslimbooks 3 роки тому +5

    It's very simple. The closest we can have to absolute freedom of speech (highly unlikely absolute) is in academia ie between intellectuals/subject matter experts, anywhere else it's a pipe dream

    • @sisterfleur7523
      @sisterfleur7523 3 роки тому +3

      And when you see what is happening in academia, it is still VERY VERY respectful!

  • @salmanzakaria1029
    @salmanzakaria1029 3 роки тому +5

    If know actually know facts,
    You must agree freedom of speech
    Is just something people dream of

  • @ConsiderThis12
    @ConsiderThis12 3 роки тому +17

    This argument wasn't handled well by Ali.
    The Christian fella made some good points. Ie if we (muslims) can destroy idols due to the idea of destroying falsehood then Christians can destroy what they consider to be false (Ie the Quran).
    However, this means the argumentation should change. Now the arguemtn should focus on how Christianity is "loving" and the guys point was that it is loving as it focuses on telling people hard truths and inviting then to the truth. Islam also fits that definition so from now on, Christians should admit that Islam is also a religion of love.
    2nd point is that, I agreed with the guy when he started defining freedom of speech. He said it should be done academically and not as an ad hominem.
    Therefore the argument should have been made as to whether hatun did what she did due to being academic or being insulting for the sake of insulting. We know she has been refuted on the issue of the preservation of the Quran, many times over. She hasn't responded. IF she was trying to be academic then she should have brought arguments, not a defiled Mushaf.
    May Allah guide us Muslims and keep us on the straight path. And may He honour the Muslims in this world and in the akhirah. Ameen.

    • @DoctorRetina
      @DoctorRetina 3 роки тому

      Good points. I agree.
      The Christian was spot on that they can insult the prophet s.a.w. because they consider him as false but your ad hominem vs academic argument applies here too.
      If they are doing it for the sake of provocation and insult then no, but if it is done to mount an academic challenge in the quest between truth and falsehood then I don't see anything wrong with that provided it is done in a constructive way.
      We know that when a person is sincerely, truth always prevails.

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому

      ** READ **
      The first hurdle that ISLAM cannot get over.
      Muhammad was never a true prophet.
      I say that because, a true prophet must receive a direct call from God, especially if he is to be the founder of a religion.
      Muhammad did not receive a direct call from God.
      Let's start from the beginning.
      Muhammad was one day meditating in the cave, a spirit visited him, pressed his chest tightly such that, he thought he was going to die. But on each occasion, Muhammad told the spirit he was illiterate and couldn't read.
      After this encounter with the spirit in the cave, Muhammad thought he had been visited by a demon and ran to his wife in fear. He said to Khadija, his wife, 'cover me' she covered him until his fear was over.
      Muhammad related what had transpired in the cave to his wife and said, 'O Khadija, what is wrong with me? What has happened to me? I am afraid for myself! However, Khadija and on the advice of lbn Neafal her cousin managed to convince Muhammad that the spirit was Gabriel.
      But the spirit did not introduce itself as the angel Gabriel.
      **************************
      It is of great importance to identify the spirit who squeezed Muhammad at the cave of Hira near Mecca.
      **************************
      Was the spirit really angel Gabriel?
      *****************************
      The answer is absolutely NO!
      *****************************
      1) Had the spirit been Gabriel, he would have calmed Muhammad and relieved his fear. But the spirit left him in extreme distress. The angel Gabriel appeared to many people before his alleged visit to Muhammad and each time the first thing he did was to allay that person's fear.
      i. When Gabriel appeared to Daniel, he was afraid but Gabriel touched him. Gabriel did not squeeze him or cause him pain, Gabriel only touched him (Daniel 8:16-18).
      ii. The angel Gabriel also appeared to Zachariah father of John the Baptist who is called Yahya in the Qur'an he identified himself and said to Zachariah : Do not be afraid, Zacharia ...... I am angel Gabriel that stand in the presence of God (Luke 1:13-19)
      iii. Gabriel appeared to Mary, MOTHER of JESUS CHRIST our Lord.
      Mary was scared but Gabriel said to her: Do not be afraid, Mary (Luke 1:30)
      2) Had the spirit been Gabriel, he would not have contradicted his former revelations. Six hundred (600) years before the birth of Muhammad, the real angel Gabriel said to Mary that she would bear a child who will be the Son of God: The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35).
      But the spirit which appeared to Muhammad told him JESUS was not the son of God:... The Christians call Christ the son of Allah .... Allah's curse be on them (Sura 9:30).
      If; the spirit that appeared to Muhammad were angel Gabriel, it would not have said JESUS was not the son of God.
      3) Had the spirit been Gabriel. He would have taught Muhammad to read and write.
      The Qur'an declares that Allah taught JESUS how to write: "'And Allah will teach him the book and wisdom, the Torah and the gospel" (Sura 3:48).
      The famous Qur'an Commentator ibn Kathir in his exposition of the Qur'an (vol.1 p.344) says:
      'The book mentioned here means write. We would expect that Mohammed, who calls himself the seal of the prophets, would be taught to read and write.
      The spirit said in his revelation to Muhammad Read: and thy lord the most Bounteous, who teaches by the pen, teacheth man that which he know not (Sura 96:3-4).
      The question is if God teaches man that which he know not by the pen, why did he not teach Muhammad (the 'senior prophet) how to read and write instead of leaving him illiterate all his life?
      4) We learn from Islamic tradition that on several occasions when Muhammad saw the spirit, he would be so frightened he would run home to his wife and ask her to cover him with clothes:
      "I was called again and raised my head, and there on the Throne in the open atmosphere he, i.e. Gabriel (peace be upon him) was sitting. I began to tremble on account of fear. I came to Khadija and said: Wrap me up.
      They wrapped me up and threw water on me..." (Sahih Muslim book 1 ch.74 no.307 p.100. Narrated by Jabir)
      At other times, Muhammad experienced some strange physical symptoms. From Hadith Mishkat, we learn that, sometimes he would shrive and swoon, roar like a camel and white foamy saliva would come from his mouth (Hadith Mishkat iv p.359).
      Sometimes when he receive revelation(s) there was the sound like the buzzing of bees near his face (source: Umar Ibnu'l Khattab), while at other times, he felt a tremendous headache.
      Muhammad once said: "At times it comes to me like the ringing of a bell and that is most severe for me... and at time an Angel in the form of a human being comes to me... (Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 28 no.5765-5767 p.1248)
      However, it is unclear why Mohammed later said, "...The bell is the musical instrument of Satan." Sahih Muslim vol.3 book 22 no.5279, also Abu Dawud vol.2 no.2548 -2550
      According Ahmad b. Hanbal, "He became distressed, foaming at the mouth and closing his eyes. At times he snorted like a young camel (Ahmad b. Hanbal I, 34, 464, vi.163). This gave rise to the allegation in certain quarters Muhammad was epileptic.
      Prophet Muhammad according to 'Amr Ibn Sharhabil, mentioned to his wife, Khadija, that he feared he was possessed by demons and wondered whether others consider him possessed [i.e. evil spirits] (source: pfanoter 1910:345).
      These statements about the physical symptoms exhibited by Muhammad when he saw the spirit were not made by strangers, non Muslims or people who did not know him.
      These statements were made by Aisha, Muhammad's favourite wife, relatives and his close followers who strongly believed that he was the seal of the prophets.
      All these people happened to be very close to Muhammad, whom knew the alleged prophet well!
      Yet when the same angel Gabriel visited Daniel, Zachariah and even Mary, none of them had convulsions with foam coming from their mouths.
      Neither did they hear the sounds of bells ringing nor the buzzing of bees near their faces. They did not roar like a camel or swoon, etc.
      Over time Muhammad started having some doubts about the revelations he received from the spirit.
      Allah (God) directed Muhammad to check the truth from the 'Book:'
      If thou wert in doubt as to what we have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book from before thee (Sura Yunus 10:94).
      The 'book' mentioned in this verse is the Holy Bible.
      If Muhammad were a learned man, he would have known what the Holy Bible says concerning Satan:
      And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:14)
      Mohammed was not only deceived then, but the hadiths record that later he was under an evil spell too. (Bukhari vol.4 book 53 chapter 34 and vol.4 no.400 p.267)
      (Article credited to Dr Labib).
      While truth can be painful, I do not mean to offend; my hope is that all muslims will find the truth and embrace JESUS wholeheartedly - not thru Islam but thru the teachings of the HOLY BIBLE - Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen.
      Peace be unto you all.
      Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen

    • @FarazMazhar
      @FarazMazhar 3 роки тому +1

      @@thepilgrim1581 mate, nothing you said supports your claim that Prophet Muhammad PBUH is not the "real" prophet. The same logic you used can be used by the Jews. Because there are things that Prophet Musa (Moses) did that Prophet Isa (Jesus) didn't do. As a Muslim, we accept the fact that certain prophets had given certain protocols that were not given to everyone.
      Half the references you provided don't support your claim while the other half don't make sense.
      The el classico i.e. taking things out of context, You say Surah Tauba verse 30 curses upon Christains for calling Jesus the son of God to show that it's from some evil spirit but then you also quote Surah Yunus verse 94 to show that Quran states to see the message in previous books as well. These two points simply contradict your claim.
      From Surah Al-Imran verse 48, you are claiming that in since other prophets were taught to read and write then Prophet Muhammad PBUH should have been too then, by your logic, you should also not accept anyone prophet till they ruled in the same way like Prophet Suleman (Solomon) did.
      I don't know about these references:
      Sahih Muslim vol.3 book 22 no.5279 -> This reference doesn't make sense hadith 5279 is in volume 5 and talks about how one should drink while sitting.
      also Abu Dawud vol.2 no.2548 -2550 -> This reference also doesn't make sense as hadith 2548-2550 are in volume 3 and talks about how one should take care of riding beasts and cattle.
      Ahmad b. Hanbal I, 34, 464, vi.163 -> I don't even know what these numbers supposed to represent. I went through all of them and none of them say what you claim it says.
      These broken references however does take me to random Christain sites where it seems someone without any understanding or knowledge of Islam started making random claims and then this whole paragraph is being copy-pasted everywhere.
      If you think I have missed anything or if I wasn't able to find the right reference, I welcome you to let me know. Here are a few references that you can get started with.
      Here is a link for a website specifically containing Qur'an: quran.com/
      Here is a link for a website specifically containing Hadith: sunnah.com/
      Here is a link for my own library of mainstream Islamic books (from the explanation of Quran (tafseer) to Hadiths): drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QvrEP31FahCffSdQkiMNzTH_z6vre8aD [only Hadith have English translation so I apologize for the rest]

    • @thepilgrim1581
      @thepilgrim1581 3 роки тому

      @@FarazMazhar
      Stop being in denial.
      JESUS is the only way to your true salvation.
      By understanding Muhammad's original vision then the entire religion falls apart, for the whole bases of Muhammad being a prophet is that he was visited by the ANGEL GABRIEL.
      Let's begin:
      We all know that Muhammad was meditating in a cave.
      If Muslim's listen to Muhammad then why do you not listen to his very first testimony that he was possessed by evil spirits?
      ****************
      If Mankind only listened to Muhammads original testimony we would never be in this mess.
      ****************
      Prophet Muhammad according to 'Amr Ibn Sharhabil, mentioned to his wife, Khadija, that he feared he was possessed by demons and wondered whether others consider him possessed [i.e. evil spirits] (source: pfanoter 1910:345).
      Muhammads own testimony thought it was DEMONIC.
      DEMONIC.
      IBN Ishaq 106, al Tabari vol 6, 7071.
      He was a victim of delusion and magic spells and also wanted to kill himself and blamed the devil for teaching him.
      Bukhari 3175, 5765
      Bukhari 5158
      Muslim 3480, 3481
      Ibn Ishaq 106; Bukhari 6982
      Ibn Ishaq 165-7
      Ibn Sa'd vol 1, 236-9
      *****************
      Now lets go even further back...... and ask the true question in .........
      Why did Muhammad needed to go to a cave to meditate?
      Why did Muhammad need to meditate in a cave?
      Meditation is a form of communication with demons.
      Caves are the homes of the unseen.
      Why would GOD or an Angel reside in a cave when they are above us in Heaven?
      What was Muhammad summoning in the cave, if not for witchcraft and the devil?
      If Muslims can openly pray, even out on the streets;
      Why then did Muhammad need to hide in a cave?.....
      Unless he did the opposite.
      He hid the truth of his actions.
      He summoned demons unto the cave.
      And they turned up.
      In his own testimony,
      Muhammad thought it was DEMONIC.
      ****************
      The Angel Gabriel NEVER appeared to Muhammad.
      ****************
      The Holy Bible tells us:
      'A boy possessed by the Devil, foams at the mouth.'
      Luke 9 : 38-43
      38 A man in the crowd called out, 'Teacher, I beg you to look at my son, for he is my only child. 39 A spirit seizes him and he suddenly screams; it throws him into convulsions so that he foams at the mouth. It scarcely ever leaves him and is destroying him. 40 I begged your disciples to drive it out, but they could not.' 41 'O unbelieving and perverse generation,' Jesus replied, 'how long shall I stay with you and put up with you? Bring your son here.' 42 Even while the boy was coming, the demon threw him to the ground in a convulsion. But Jesus rebuked the evil spirit, healed the boy and gave him back to his father. 43 And they were all amazed at the greatness of God. While everyone was marveling at all that Jesus did,
      Amen.
      *********************
      'Foamy saliva from Muhammads mouth.'
      The Qur'an tells us:
      They wrapped me up and threw water on me..." (Sahih Muslim book 1 ch.74 no.307 p.100. Narrated by Jabir)
      At other times, Muhammad experienced some strange physical symptoms. From Hadith Mishkat, we learn that, sometimes he would shrive and swoon, roar like a camel and white foamy saliva would come from his mouth (Hadith Mishkat iv p.359).
      ***********
      Muhammad had Foam at the mouth.
      ************
      Yet when the same ANGEL GABRIEL visited Daniel, Zachariah and even Mary, none of them had convulsions with foam coming from their mouths.
      **********************
      Muhammad had told the world that he thought it was Demonic but Muslims still choose to ignore his words.
      WHY?
      ISLAM has taken many many souls to HELL and will continue to do so.
      ***********************
      I will now go even deeper ............ Are you ready for this?
      * Muslim's do not follow Muhammad *
      This is a fact.
      Muslim's follow KHADIJA.
      Muslim's listened to the words of KHADIJA.
      It was KHADIJA that told Muhammad that the visions he had in the cave was the ANGEL GABRIEL and NOT Muhammad himself.
      Muhammad accepted KHADIJA'S words and followed her words.
      I now ask ALL MUSLIMS.
      Has the ANGEL GABRIEL ever appeared to KHADIJA?
      The answer to that is categorically NO.
      Then therefore; how would KHADIJA know of the ANGEL GABRIEL?
      How would KHADIJA know what the ANGEL GABRIEL looks like?
      She wouldn't.
      Therefore on what grounds has she to tell a man who thought he was possessed by demons to declare it to be an ANGEL from GOD?
      Oh Muslim friends, your path has been a misguided one.
      If only Mankind listened to Muhammad's original testimony that it was Demonic we would never be in this mess.
      ***************
      CHRISTIANITY was created in HEAVEN.
      JESUS drove out Demon's.
      ISLAM was created in a Cave.
      Muhammad was possessed by Demons.
      ISLAM has put so much pressure and fear within all muslims that drives you inwards and not outwards.
      Muslims have succumbed to fear and the delusion that hides you from the truth of JESUS CHRIST.
      Your true salvation can only be thru JESUS CHRIST and no other.
      Muslim friends, your path is flawed right from the beginning.
      Everything else after is also flawed.
      Hence my words are true that nothing matters except the Beginning.
      If you accept the beginning then you leave ISLAM.
      If you do not accept the beginning then you do not listen to your prophet's original testimony.
      'To get something you never had.'
      'You have to do something you never did.'
      Once you take hold of JESUS'S hand.
      JESUS will NEVER let go.
      JESUS loves us all.
      Our eternal salvation is thru JESUS CHRIST and no other.
      Peace be unto all the misguided.
      Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven.
      Amen
      ............

    • @FarazMazhar
      @FarazMazhar 3 роки тому

      @@thepilgrim1581 Your whole stance is that Prophet Muhammad PBUH got scared after the first revelation so that invalidates the whole religion. I want you to give me something more solid instead of cherry picking certain events and drawing baseless conclusions that literally no one, probably other than the echo chamber that you live in, draws. I would suggest, first figure out the inconsistencies in Christainity before preaching me about Jesus because you guys can't agree on which version of Bible we are supposed to use as a baseline.
      And please bring forward the points that can't be made about your religion by the Jews.
      You are saying "Quran" tells us then try to quote me some hadith with a reference that I can't find. I have the Mishkal Al Masabih book. It has 3 volumes so I don't know what you mean by "Hadith Mishkat iv p.359" and Sahih Muslim ch 74 talks about miraj so I still don't know where you are getting all of this.

  • @agusiman2340
    @agusiman2340 3 роки тому

    In fact, Islam is a religion for all mankind, therefore Islam cares about humanitarian matters in all areas of life so that humans can live calmly, peacefully & happily (safe & prosperous) not only living in this world but also living in the afterlife (life after death). The way, of course, is not to get lost / misled but must believe in the true God (Ruler of the world and the hereafter) namely by worshiping, begging & obeying Allah swt, and following the examples given by the prophet Muhammad saw.

  • @asadullahsaaid3794
    @asadullahsaaid3794 3 роки тому +5

    SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️

  • @NayimKay
    @NayimKay 3 роки тому +2

    The first guy just didn't understand what Ali was talking about.
    Ali wasn't justifying anything.

    • @9shien
      @9shien 3 роки тому

      They simply mean is if someone provokes non Muslims and they retaliate then they both are wrong. But if they provoke a Muslim and a Muslim retaliates then only that muslim is wrong for not understanding that the provoking person claims Islam to be unholy so why would he not attack Islam in immoral ways. In short according to them Islam is immoral and unethical and must be dealt in the same ways.

  • @HK-do7bf
    @HK-do7bf 3 роки тому +3

    Ali asks 'what's 1 plus 1?'
    Answer from these 'well morally speaking 1 is legal and the other one is legal so consciously speaking it could be 2 but I'm not sure' lol such simple questions

  • @mohamedfaizal4746
    @mohamedfaizal4746 3 роки тому +2

    I wanted to see that guys reaction when someone calls him a b******d and calls it a freedom of speech. I would say he is not at wrong even if he assaults the person who calls him that.
    The above statement is just an example to prove his view wrong, not to disgrace him or his family.

  • @alaynareen2465
    @alaynareen2465 3 роки тому +1

    May Allah give more power to brother Ali.. good going bro, keep it up💙

  • @Wilson-le5bt
    @Wilson-le5bt 3 роки тому

    Is this guy for real!
    I cant believe he said there's no Islamaphobia in the media🤦
    This guy has been living under a rock

  • @shaikhahmed7929
    @shaikhahmed7929 3 роки тому +9

    28:00 Ali's argument is weak here about the demolition of the idles in Kaaba. The actual argument is, Kaaba was established by Ibrahim and is a place of worship for Muslims to Allah.
    Originally Arabs were monotheist and used to pray to Allah but then in the context of hundreds of years of Religio-Economic development in Mecca, arabs accommodated idles from other concopts. e.g. goddess Lat was an imported idle simply to attract tourists and pilgrims from other religions.
    So once the prophet won Mecca, he simply re-established the original faith and demolished whatever is not part if Islamic faith. This was solely within the Kaaba premise which belongs to Allah.
    There were people who still wasn't Muslims and used to worship those idles and might have idles in their houses. Prophet never ordered anyone to demolish idles of people who had them in their houses.
    So the accusation of insulting other idles by the Prophet is lamest to the peak. Specially when they compare it to the actions done by Charlie Hebdo.
    These christians couldn't have been more hypocrites.
    Edit: typos

    • @talha-cs
      @talha-cs 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your clarification. This was one of the questions I had, in the back of my mind for a long time. Glad to have come across the answer.

  • @salmanzakaria1029
    @salmanzakaria1029 3 роки тому +5

    Ali be like,just give me a second to speak 😑

  • @razinfa
    @razinfa 3 роки тому

    "Freedom of speech" must arise fr a noble intention... it must not be allowed provoke division, hate, defend trison/illegal works/oppression of human kind...

  • @tankatie713
    @tankatie713 3 роки тому +5

    Can somebody compile the complete Hatun Tash actions video? I mean everything in one video and show them?

  • @Don_Quixote_1492
    @Don_Quixote_1492 3 роки тому

    Jazak Allahu khieran

  • @islamicpower113
    @islamicpower113 3 роки тому +3

    My brother ali I love you so much

  • @muhammadfarid8933
    @muhammadfarid8933 3 роки тому

    I like the red shirt guy. Massive respect.

  • @keithmoschetto3566
    @keithmoschetto3566 3 роки тому

    Anytime one is offended It does not justify physical violence. Violence is only neccessary in self defense in my opinion.

  • @nadinekeating3255
    @nadinekeating3255 3 роки тому +1

    Wow!
    People in 2021 don't believe in democracy. Thats crazy.
    What kind of world would you rather live in then?
    If you don't believe in democracy, and think there's a "better" system in which to live, why do you CHOOSE to live in a democratic society/country?
    I always find it quite funny when the people who hate the society/country in which they live, continually complain about it... yet they still choose to remain where they claim to hate.
    (I'm not saying Ali "hates" democracy, but he certainly doesn't agree with it). There is no other fair and free way in which a society can thrive.

    • @mindlessprocrastination6630
      @mindlessprocrastination6630 2 роки тому +1

      He would rather live in a country with Sharia law. And he's staying in non-Muslim lands to spread Islam.

    • @mzaf2247
      @mzaf2247 2 роки тому

      They follow the money once the wealth dries up in the west like it slowly is now, everyone will be going to China which is communist, so I find it funny u think democracy and not Capitalism is the reason why Muslims are in the west.

    • @mzaf2247
      @mzaf2247 2 роки тому

      @@solo741 lol u can be outspoken as much as u want heck u can go protest in millions but nothing changes by doing that so its bit pointless, also voting for a 1 party or another and switching every decade or so is not true democracy but a monopoly on democracy 😉

  • @Stand4Righteousness
    @Stand4Righteousness 3 роки тому +1

    The guy with the glasses is like the Christian version of mo hijab lol it'll be a good debate between them 2

  • @summanmuhammadiqbal07
    @summanmuhammadiqbal07 3 роки тому +1

    Real face of loving Christians...
    👍😂😜

  • @baitroute5554
    @baitroute5554 3 роки тому +5

    With all due respect the guy with the glasses is a better spoken more to the point Tommy Robinson , he just tries to hide it better

  • @Anja0Jensen
    @Anja0Jensen 3 роки тому

    People who keep interrupting in a debate are not even worth listening to...

  • @Daruliman365
    @Daruliman365 2 роки тому

    May Allah bless Ali Dawah and his channel give barakah...🥰🥰🥰

  • @worldstarepic9942
    @worldstarepic9942 3 роки тому

    Teaching of Christ and Christianity is not the same. This is why Islam and Muhammad came so the teaching had to be preserved till the day of judgement.

  • @donk5123
    @donk5123 3 роки тому +2

    The Quran is traditionally written in the eastern Arabian dialect of Classical Arabic. Ironically Muhammad would have spoken the western dialect ofClassical Arabic originating from Mecca, so there is already an element of translation inherent in the Quran.
    Quran was sent down by mouth to the prophet over 23 years in over hundred surahs by god to angel gibrel to deliver it to the prophet Muhammed it was never in a book for as some may not know and this is what the quran mentions.
    “al hayat” (life), 145 times; “al mawt” (death), 145 times
    “al-dunya” (mundane life), 115 times; “al akhira” (the afterlife), 115 times
    “malaika” (angels), 88 times; “shayatin” (demons), 88 times
    “ar rajul (man), 24 times; “al mar’a (woman), 24 times
    “as salihat (good deeds), 167 times; “as sayya’at” (wrong doings), 167 times
    “qul” (say), 332 times; “qalu” (said), 332 times
    “an nas” (people), 50 times; “an nabiya” (prophets), 50 times
    “al muslimat” (Muslim women), 41 times; “al muslimin” (Muslim men), 41 times
    Iblis the devil is mentioned 11 times and seek refuge from iblis is mentioned 11 times
    "yawma-izhin" (That day), 70 times; "qiyama" (Judgment day), 70 times
    Disbelief 17 times - belief 17 times
    "dunya" (near), 115 times; "akhira" (far), 115 times
    "shitaa" (winter), 1 time; "sayf" (summer), 1 time
    "Isa" (Yahushua), 25 times; "Adam", 25 times
    (Clay) teen and nutufa (sperm) is mentioned 112 times how we was made
    Zakat and baraka is mentioned the same amount of times 32 times
    al-Fatihah in itself has 7 verses, 3.5 dedicated towards our praise of the Omnipotent, and the next 3.5 dedicated towards our prayers to the Omnipotent.The words “salawat” (prayers) and "aqimis-salah" (establish prayer) are mentioned 5 times in the Quran, the same as the number of mandatory daily prayers.The word "alwan" (colors) is written 7 times, the same as the number of colors of the rainbow.The words "samawat" + "sab" (heavens + seven) are written together 7 times, the same as the number of heavens described in the Quran.There are 365 days in a year. The word "yawm" (day in singular) is written exactly 365 times.There are 12 months in a year. The word "shahr" (month in singular) is written exactly 12 times: [2:185] [2:194] [2:217] [5:2] [5:97] [9:36] [97:3]
    The Quran says there are seven heavens above us, sometimes described as seven layers (23:17). We are in the lowest of these layers (دنيا), so the Quran is basically saying that there are six layers "above" the one we are in. The phrase ‘seven heavens’ is used in the whole Quran exactly seven times: 2:29, 41:12, 65:12, 67:3, 71:15, 17:44, and 23:86.[citation needed]
    The words "Sea" and "Land" are used 32 and 13 times respectively in the Quran. 32 plus 13 equals 45, and the two words make up 71.1 and 28.9 percent respectively of those 45. These percentages roughly correspond to what we today know the proportion of the Earth's surface made up of water and land to be.
    "Human being" is used 65 times: the sum of the number of references to the stages of man's creation is the same:
    PLEASE SHARE TO EVERYONE YOU WILL GET REWARD en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_in_the_Quran

  • @snakeplessken
    @snakeplessken 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting aguement. I'm just wondering if anyone else knows whether the Prophet (SAW) ordered the destruction of idol in a place of muslim worship (the Kabah) only? The idols were desecrating the sanctitiy of the Kabah and they were effectively removed! This is very differnet from his arguements of iconaclasm because the Prophet (SAW) did not order going into another religions place of worship to destroy falsehood. Nonetheless, it was interesting that Ali was able to draw the true nature of Christians who hide behind the claok of "love and peace".

  • @nightrider6830
    @nightrider6830 3 роки тому +1

    This last christian brother is just saying things without even knowing what he is saying┐(´ー`)┌ This is what happens to your brain when you can't tell 1+1+1=??

  • @tahahaider5836
    @tahahaider5836 3 роки тому +1

    So whenever ali gives a counter argument, the guy says: ur not getting my point.

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 3 роки тому

    Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza

  • @9shien
    @9shien 3 роки тому +2

    The pink shirt guy's closing statement proved Islam is the "only" religion of peace. Man you embarrassed Christianity. 😂

    • @watvid1
      @watvid1 3 роки тому +1

      But it's good intellectual ammunition I'll keep in my back pocket when a Jéhovah witness next knocks on my door and preaches Christianity = love

    • @9shien
      @9shien 3 роки тому

      @@watvid1 Yeah right. Smart move 😂

  • @FredHandle1
    @FredHandle1 2 роки тому

    This white youth is stretching over backwards to exonerate the belligerent actions of his peers.
    This led him unavoidably, to make a very dangerous assertion that is tantamount to a call for war between the two sides.
    He's actually trying to explain criminal provocation & incriminates himself in the process. He's full of it, but it was good to have his criminality on tape. Good job

  • @worldstarepic9942
    @worldstarepic9942 3 роки тому +1

    He was instructed by God to destroy the Idols and clean the Kãba.

  • @Amine--Z
    @Amine--Z 3 роки тому +2

    14:29 💥Ouch! 💯👌🏼👍🏼

    • @Amine--Z
      @Amine--Z 3 роки тому +2

      34:28 💥Oof 🔥

  • @m.a.el-majdub7393
    @m.a.el-majdub7393 3 роки тому +1

    Let me respond quickly to the point where the Christian says, that drilling the quran is the same as destroying statues. The reason why Abraham piece be oppon him did that, was to show that these statues (which were there gods) can’t help them, they can’t provide for them neither protect them from harm. These Statues („Gods“) couldn’t even protect themselves from being destroyed. We claim that the Quran is a book sent from god, its not undestroyable. Abraham wanted to show the people there, that these are false gods.
    There is also the difference between when Abraham (a.s) destroyed the Statues and when Mohammed (a.s) destroyed the statues.
    Mohammed (a.s) destroyed the statues because he was now the leader of Mecca. He didn’t to that when he was at the primary stage of the prophecy.

  • @arianrahman4840
    @arianrahman4840 2 роки тому

    kile Quigon Jin said , 'the ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent " . That Adam dude must be a descendent of Jar jar binks

  • @sky-or8jz
    @sky-or8jz 3 роки тому +5

    But when Mecca was conquered by Prophet Muhammad(pbuh), there was no pagan left, was there?.
    They either converted to Islam or left Mecca..
    So destroying Idols would have had no impact on anyone whatsoever.
    But drillin holes in Quran, well it has impacted every muslim all over the world!.
    So I don't think it is a equivalent situation!

    • @sky-or8jz
      @sky-or8jz 3 роки тому +6

      @ThePaahchan
      but some of these christian people are so biased.
      He literally acknowledged that he believes that muslims are violent !
      World has no hope!.
      You did the crusades, you did the pogroms, You did Coloniazations, you did the holocaust, you did the world wars, You did Hiroshima-Nagasaki,You did Palestine, you did Veitnam, You did Iraq, You did afghanistan.
      And still I am the violent one!. Hmmm. Fascinating!

    • @troll821
      @troll821 3 роки тому

      @@sky-or8jz don’t forget Syria and Libya.

    • @troll821
      @troll821 3 роки тому

      @@sky-or8jz ikr

    • @sky-or8jz
      @sky-or8jz 3 роки тому +3

      @@troll821 yes!.
      Syria and Libya too!.
      It's frustrating!. The audacity

    • @sky-or8jz
      @sky-or8jz 3 роки тому +1

      @Commander LoLMaN
      That's amazing about your grandpa.
      I also wrote a story about modern day clonosation and killings of my people but I guess it was too much information for youtube.
      They took the comment down😂😂.
      my grandfather was killed by Indian army sponsored ikhwans. They were muslim by name but were undercover agents of indian army!
      They killed my grandfather as he was about to enter his house !

  • @dinbachok6424
    @dinbachok6424 3 роки тому

    Bismillah. I think the point of opening mouth or criticising is to get our point across not to belittle whoever we point it too. Criticise with moral, have a debate about it better than insulting and have a war.

  • @ahmedbaigm14
    @ahmedbaigm14 3 роки тому +5

    ali you have bring hijab he would have smashed this boy

  • @mt07.23
    @mt07.23 3 роки тому +1

    Ay Ridwaan is back !

  • @theunknownguy265
    @theunknownguy265 3 роки тому

    Purple guy said insulting loved ones is wrong
    But insulting loved ones is correct
    😂😂

  • @Echo-xf8op
    @Echo-xf8op 3 роки тому

    Selama my fav. Kurd !!!!! love the videos and people need to get their aarrsshh kicked if they get violent towards Muslims . How long my RABB
    The Point is to STOP bad and bad manners ! come speak to me wrongly and ill tech you quick manners and not waiting for your Protectors ///Police

  • @m.a.el-majdub7393
    @m.a.el-majdub7393 3 роки тому

    Maschallah

  • @homtanks7259
    @homtanks7259 3 роки тому +1

    ☝🏻

  • @DoctorMGL
    @DoctorMGL 3 роки тому +1

    10:00 is that the troll adam who use to come to ef dawah streams ? lol

  • @ricoblankestein
    @ricoblankestein 2 роки тому +1

    people forgot about simple rules of their cildhood. the ones that provokes does psychological harm and the ones that hits the other person does physological harm. both is harm and shouldnt be accepted which means the must be a diffrence between hate speech and freedom of speech. and if you apply this kind of freedom of speech they are talking about its literally oppression. imagine someone insults you bullys you in the name of freedom of speech and you have to sit there listen to all this bs and cant do anything. it will cause alot of mental problems. where did common sense go with these people ?? they live behind their computers and not in the real world

  • @keithmoschetto3566
    @keithmoschetto3566 3 роки тому

    When the Taliban blew up the beautiful Buddhist statues in Afghanistan that had been there hundreds of years was wrong. Those statues should have been pressured for the entire world to enjoy. That was extremely selfish!

  • @DarkCrusade
    @DarkCrusade 3 роки тому

    27:57 Difference is, one is to spread influence the other is to simply insult and provoke people

  • @ghuraba8438
    @ghuraba8438 Рік тому

    Me drinking tea listening to atheists giving moral arguments.

  • @imtiaz7845
    @imtiaz7845 3 роки тому

    True is true that everybody knows 2+2=5😂😂

  • @king20854
    @king20854 3 роки тому

    Freedom of speech what is that ....... islamic countries have entered the chat

  • @mij374
    @mij374 3 роки тому

    The last young man is media product.

  • @رحيممفيد
    @رحيممفيد 3 роки тому

    1 Peter 3 verse 9
    9 Don’t be hateful and insult people just because they are hateful and insult you. Instead, treat everyone with kindness. You are God’s chosen ones, and he will bless you.

  • @kingkymani4523
    @kingkymani4523 3 роки тому

    Aki dismantled the 1st white guy but the 2nd Christian guy finished him

  • @emtiazchowdhury6979
    @emtiazchowdhury6979 3 роки тому

    Where this place is located and which day it holds?

  • @ivorystinkershack3422
    @ivorystinkershack3422 3 роки тому

    his argument falls apart if we can prove through their scirpture that the prophet sallalahu aleihi wa sallam was foretold.

  • @pessimistkai5569
    @pessimistkai5569 3 роки тому

    Maroon shirt guy made smart arguments

  • @mohamedsherif193
    @mohamedsherif193 3 роки тому

    “Prophet Muhammad destroyed all idols and images except images of Jesus and Mary in Kaaba. It is mentioned in sirat / biography (Ibn Ishaq, PG:552).”
    This could be possible..

  • @nafissael-makhloufi1559
    @nafissael-makhloufi1559 3 роки тому +1

    I think this guy needs a slow down pill... my God

  • @SimpleReally
    @SimpleReally 3 роки тому +3

    even though I mostly agree with Ali I really hate how he begins half his sentences saying nonono, it is such an annoying thing to hear for the interlocuter

  • @dailytv6811
    @dailytv6811 3 роки тому

    @17:04 was too funny they both disagreed with each other

  • @christophermorgan3261
    @christophermorgan3261 3 роки тому

    Ali advocating against democracy and for Islamic law.

  • @asheka
    @asheka 3 роки тому

    This game over guy🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @Wilson-le5bt
    @Wilson-le5bt 3 роки тому

    Seriously wth.
    Adam just said in regards to freedom of speech there should be T's and C's included 🤣🤣🤣
    Doesn't he understand the word FREEDOM!

  • @studiouspanda7183
    @studiouspanda7183 3 роки тому +1

    Can you respond to Cosmic skeptic’s new video with yours and Dr Naik’s footage in it?

  • @leadfarmer9396
    @leadfarmer9396 3 роки тому +1

    24.15 ali is bang on

  • @abdirahmanmohamed7445
    @abdirahmanmohamed7445 3 роки тому

    I don't know why I am saying this but I turned on the subtitles and I forget that it was on and then I was staring at the two gentlemen present their idea and then I looked down for some reason and all I saw was no no no no no no no no no no no no no (9:07) actually, as a matter of fact, press the three dots below the video then press transcript and then go to 9:07 and then u will see what I saw it was so

  • @imonlyahuman5052
    @imonlyahuman5052 3 роки тому

    Bring a lawyer into the debates??
    Wow... Bani-Israel be like...
    Act like a falsehood or going into the jailed...

  • @ammarkhan7947
    @ammarkhan7947 3 роки тому

    Mecca and Medina are different that's we're God established Islam.

  • @إنهاالمستديرةياساده

    Can you translate this video to Arabic

    • @muhammadsyaiful8442
      @muhammadsyaiful8442 3 роки тому

      Look up some channel about islam and ask them to help spread this message. Sure they wont deny it if the video is beneficial for us mankind.

  • @pessimistkai5569
    @pessimistkai5569 3 роки тому +2

    I think Ali lost here, he was being too emotional whereas the Christian guy in the end made logical analogies.

    • @sarmadghafoor1484
      @sarmadghafoor1484 3 роки тому +2

      I mean I feel like Christian guy said got the wrong end he thinks Ali is still saying freedom of speach shouldn’t exist.
      But Ali said that it already doesn’t exist but people still are still saying it exist.

  • @Hammyfreak
    @Hammyfreak 3 роки тому

    A good debate. 👍

  • @sabihasaeed1430
    @sabihasaeed1430 3 роки тому

    The statues in kaba were encroachment by the pegans that's why they destroyed

  • @mohammedafrouzahmed7779
    @mohammedafrouzahmed7779 3 роки тому

    Freedom of Speech has boundaries. If you cross that boundary. It is not a freedom of Speech and these boundaries are different for different communities.
    For Example in Islam Making images of Prophets is considered a blasphemy and if someone does that it hurts Muslims and definitely there will be consequences. and If someone else does the same thing to Christianity or Judaism the reaction will be the same.

  • @testing-je7yz
    @testing-je7yz 3 роки тому +1

    Ali, you should not leave any doubt at any point or concede. You need to be able to tackle with knowledge and wisdom. Guy with glasses is literally throwing assumptions and doubt. You need to stop and address each doubt. If you don't have enough knowledge, you should not be talking and stop where possible.

  • @mohamedfaizal4746
    @mohamedfaizal4746 3 роки тому

    That guy doesn't want to listen.
    He don't want to be practical, just blabbering his stupid points. Talking fast doesn't mean it is right.

  • @qgh2636
    @qgh2636 2 роки тому

    Did he really just tried to justify hatun's actions??? 😂

  • @mayur3314
    @mayur3314 3 роки тому

    Only time this liar Ali Has spoken a hint of truth.