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The Flying Superweapon Hitler Never Saw Coming
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- The bombing of Coventry, England, in November 1940 revealed the brutal hand of German aggression, ripping through vast residential areas and leaving a trail of devastation. The Allies craved vengeance. They aimed to break the German spirit. By November 1941, Britain had set up a covert wartime organization: RE8. It had a straightforward yet frightening mission: engineering an inferno the likes of which the world had never seen.
British engineers, hardened by their own experiences as survivors of the Blitz, sought to craft a far more devastating bombing method to bring Germany to its knees. They scrutinized the construction of German homes, building massive replicas of Hamburg’s most densely packed neighborhoods to master the art of spreading a firestorm.
The engineers calculated the perfect ratio of high-explosive bombs and incendiaries, concocting a lethal mix of magnesium bombs and oil-based incendiaries. For months, they studied meteorological conditions and wind patterns, knowing high winds would be the best catalyst for the firestorm they intended to unleash.
After grueling months of research, by 1943, RE8 had distilled and engineered Armageddon. They would bring forth a catastrophe of biblical proportions on Hamburg. On July 24, the skies over Germany darkened. Over the following days, more than 3,000 Allied aircraft took to the air, armed with over 9,000 tons of explosives. Their goal? Creating an untamable firestorm, a hurricane of destruction whose temperatures would soar past 1,400 degrees Fahrenheit, hotter than volcanic lava. The wrath of the Allied powers was about to be unleashed in what was aptly named Operation Gomorrah…
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My mother was a nurse/midwife/radiographer during the London Blitz and dealt with the effects of this indiscriminate form of warfare at first hand. There were around 43,000 civilian casualties as a result of the Blitz. She would go out during blackouts and air raids to deliver babies, then come back to take care of casualties both civilian and military, a lot of them airman wounded in bombing raids over occupied Europe or the continual air battle over the streets of London when the Germans came to bomb. My point is, this type of bombing was instigated by the Axis forces, so they could hardly complain when the Allies retaliated in kind.
I had a friend, years ago who, at 14, was visiting Hamburg when one of those raids began. He said he sheltered under a bridge that managed to stay up. When it was over, he said there was nothing left, where he was.
Those who criticize our use of such methods are quick to forget what Germans did and would have done if given the chance. I have a relative who flew as Halifax & Lancaster bombers crew in the RCAF and we are mighty proud of his service.
Of course, Britain never had to go to war in the first place, and had plenty of time to withdraw from the conflict during the Phoney War. Britain came out of the war a bankrupt second-rate power that lost its empire. Brave British men fought courageously for traitors like Churchill.
Those who criticize such methods have no clue that the precision nature and relative lack of collateral damage is something exceedingly rare in warfare. The people may have been civilians, but they worked and supported the armaments industry. It’s far easier to attack the workers than the heavily fortified military & industrial bases.
"what Germans did" is a tu quoque.
@@micheal49 The Germans expressed pride and satisfaction with their achievements in Coventry. Perhaps they should have employed the same eye for artistry in their assessment here.
Never mind 'tu quoque', they knew what it was about.
@@SlideRulePirate Wut?!
Exactly what does that have to do with the point I made?
You sowed the wind and so you shall reap the whirlwind, Bonber Harris. Enough said
It would have more impact if you spelt it right.
@@shaun469give it a rest, a mistake has being made. You never made one?
@@TC-qd1zw The German Command obviously did, which is something that came and bit them right on the posterior in 43,44,45.
Once you let the Genie out of the bottle everything changes.
note, there is a video here of a survivor, who reported that everyone listened to the BBC, and that the BBC advised people to leave Hamburg. She left for the countryside, returning later to live in the basement of their destroyed home.
It's a biblical quote originally Hosea 8 7
For they have sown the wind and they shall reap the worldwind
"You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out."
~ William Tecumseh Sherman
Except that the South just wanted out; not to take over the central gov't. "Civil War" is a gross misnomer.
@@terry_willisthey sought to break a Nation at which point we could not stand divided.
My great grandmother survived the week at Dresden. She was a lion keeper, and the poor snimals had to be destroyed due to the lack of food. When the fire storms started a large percentage of the zoo staff took shelter in the concrete enclosures that kept the fire away.
ALL the potentially dangerous animals in every British Zoo were killed at the outbreak of war because they knew the Germans would continue blitzkrieg tactics and couldn't risk any of them escaping from bomb damaged compounds.
Germany used firebombing tactics before this.
And?
@@jacobmccandles1767 Watch the video.
@@jacobmccandles1767 the BBC warned the people of Hamburg to leave. The BBC always did this despite the uptick in loss of bombers. It was "stupid" to do this, but there is a video here of a survivor who left the city with her mother because everyone knew what the BBC had warned. It was illegal to listen but people did as the Allies did advise people to leave.
And it didn't work any better then either.
That's the buried lede in the entire "unrestricted strategic bombing" story. It didn't break England's will to fight, and it didn't break Germany's. What it DID was kill a whole lot of civilians while failing to prove multiple generals' macho theory that you could bully people into submission if you just bombed them hard enough. Turns out people don't work that way; grief breeds rage as easily as despair.
@@paulwood6729 I don't need to watch the video, I've read many a book. I knew what happened by about 8 or 9 years old. I'm just not sure that "Hitler did it first" is the best excuse I've ever heard.
That said, I have the same human frailties as anyone else, and I'd likely have done the same in Sir Winston's shoes.
One of my former customers was a survivor of the Hamburg bombings. She was a child at the time.
I feel sorry for the Elephant and the lost air crews.
How is it possible for people to forget the fire bombing by Germany of British cities early on in WWII?
Of course I won't forget. It's like General Custer's men calling Plains Indians 'savages' for mutilation of corpses and other unnamed atrocities of war, when the Comanche had done it first. Israel's response to HAMAS is probably the most incredibly micromanaged war yet, in the sense that they DIDN'T STOOP TO the tactics of the enemy, only targeting combatants. The UK police force could learn a thing or two from them right now don't you think?
@@spacewater7What os the death count in Gaza now? About 37.000? If that is what happens when you target combatants. I would hate to see the result of an assault targetting civilians. Their example might have been an example to the Gestapo. Luckily, the UK police have professionalism and a moral and legal stance to rely on.
@@spacewater7 Target combatants? The IDF you are kidding. The US in Iraq didn't even count the non comabatant deaths and neither did they care.
Man's inhumanity to man.
Yeah, but you started it.
An unstoppable firestorm was what the nukes in Japan were for, not radiation.
They had already done that in Tokyo. They were about massive blast and instant destruction and in the case of Nagasaki a side nudge to Stalin. It is fair to say they may not have realised the extent of the radiation, but the effects of overexposure were well known since WW I.
War is horrible
As it should be.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
Indeed, war is horrible, but I think it is best defined as insanity, the type of which we humans are uniquely subject to.
My German language teacher in HS was from Hamburg, and was a child during the war. She never talked bout that time.
Many English firefighters in the images of Hamburg
Camera man didn't survive
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
War tolerates no morality.
Prior to WW1 opposing armies would choose a strategic location (battlefield) to meet, and battle would commence.
After WW1 civilians had become contributors to a national war effort, making them “fair game” to the enemy.
Agreed, but if Hitler could have done to GB what we did in response, he would have done in an instant. As Churchill famously said "Make jaw jaw, not war war".
In the latter half of WW2, the Germans “Heavy Water Plant” in Norway was sabotaged. As the Germans were well on their way (ahead of the allies) to producing a nuclear bomb.
@Jones607
Absolutely not true. Only the romanized remembrance of history tells of this nature of battle. History is replete with entire cities reduced to ashes during war. Meeting in the middle on some chosen ground was the exception, not the rule.
@@isthereanybodyoutthere9397 True. If Hitler would have had something like nerve gases, agents that can kill even if the victim has a gas mask on, he would have used them in an instant. Agents like Tabun and Sarin, as examples.
Well, Germany had them, and had the means to deliver them.
They did not.
What was your point again...?
"The bomber will always get through!" Is frequently attributed too Stanley Baldwin, however I'm sure it was actually General Giulio Douhet in his 1921 book "The Command of the Air".
I visited an Engineering factory in Hamburg in the early 1980’s, I noted with interest that underneath the main factory floor there was another one, still with heavy thick steel blast doors, the underground factory was accessed via a 12 ft wide staircase and about 20 ft deep, and could have held 80% of what was on the ground floor.!
My dad served with bomber command as a gunner initially with a squadron equiped with twin engined Lockheed Ventura medium bombers before joining a pathfinder squadron equiped with Lancasters. From his log book he took part in many of the air raids mentioned in this video including Hamburg. He didn't talk much about it but towards the end of his life he did say that in his opinion some of the targets they were sent to bomb weren't worth the lives of the aircrews lost, especially towards the end of the war when much of Gemany was wrecked anyway. But he was adamant that he had no regrets about bombing large industrial targets such has Hamburg, he'd seen first hand what German bombers had done to London when he was caught in an air raid which removed any sympathy he may have had for the Germans. He didn't hate Germans as such, once the war was over he strongly believed it was better for European countries to get on with each other and not make the same mistakes made in the twenties and thirties.
In a book my old pilot mate from WWII had which was classified had pictures of bombs and for every percussion bomb there were two incendiary’s bombs one to smash and two too catch it on fire ,fire destroys more than explosions
Germany showed that they thought bombing civilians was valid. So they okayed it. So, no hand wringing please
The British started the bombing of civilians not the Germans.
Yup, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.
The Germans decided how the war was going to be fought. We just did it "better".
@@AlbertaGeek literally.
The Luftwaffe raid on Coventry led to the creation of a word that means 'To destroy utterly'. That word is 'Coventrate'.
Hitler and his misfit minions never, ever understood British morale. I doubt that the thought ever crossed their minds that we would start 'Thousand Bomber' raids on their cities - and night after night, as well. Their horror that it was happening, and successfully, must have been terrible to witness. I also read, somewhere, that propaganda material was dropped shortly afterwards, which basically told the German people: 'Your leaders are to blame for this.'
The firestorm was possibly one of the most horrific side effects of massive incendiary bombing, which our scientists must have known would be a possibility. Eye wtness accounts report people being swept up in columns of fire, and being instantly incinerated. Hundreds, if not thousands of people were consumed. The codename 'Gomorrah' couldn't have been more accurate.
The Norden bomb sight was exposed by crews and intelligence as being not any more accurate than any other equipment being used during that period.
I read that America switched to the British sight but I can't remember the model number.
@@swanseajaffa I've never heard of that, but the British invented the Mk14 gyro stabilised gunsight for fighters, which was a game changer able to accurately calculate lead, deflection and range, which made putting rounds on target much easier and a higher hit probability. The US company Sperry copied it with slight modifications and called the K14
That's BS. It certainly wasn't as accurate as was publicly proclaimed by the USAAF, but to say it was no more accurate than other bombsights is false. And the USAAF did NOT switch to the British sight. More internet myth.
@@swanseajaffa The Norden was a British bomb sight but with a gyroscope added making it more accurate but it still was no where close to what they claimed in propaganda.
@@jimdavison4077The Norden bomb sight was not British.
The "Hamburg Philharmonic Orchestra" look suspiciously like a jazz band.
For the enemy, there was no difference.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 The Nazis banned jazz music. Too "negro".
Yes, I doubt they'd have been playing entartete kunst, I suspect stock footage.
@@gedq Yes, let's take some musicians, not too few!
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
And in less than 15 years, Hamburg was hosting a small band from Liverpool, England, The Beatles
How quickly we forget history.
You skipped over the earlier Luftwaffe bombing of Guernica in the Spanish Civil War that shocked the world.
....and we never visited wrath upon Generalissimo Franco.
During WW2, much of Japans residential areas were of timber construction. Also, they operated a “cottage industry” (working from home). This led to the American Airforce adopting a similar strategy to the Brits, “carpet bombing’ Japans civilians into oblivion.
We called it 'Area Bombing'. Remember we we 4 years into the war by '43, we'd lost tens of thousands of boys in France, London had been hammered every night for 81 days in a row by hundreds of bombers, we were being starved by 300 uboats in the atlantic corridor and our pilots were dying faster than we could train them. We had zero tolerance for the Nazis by then, it was life and death for us. They had it coming.
The US always carpet bombed. They were no more accurate than the Brits. Often less so.
Don't start nothin' won't be nothin'
Youngblooodz & Lil Jon right?
@@matthewyocom56 Will Smith in Men in Black lol
@@MrDerwood1969right on that was my second guess ✌️😂
I thought it was DMX 🤷🏻♂️
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
The scale of air warfare in the old days is absolutely staggering. 40,000 dead from a single operation. That is terrifying. WWII was the ultimate depth of humanity.
I regret to say that Coventry was a genuinely military target. Among other things, one of its products was the superb engines for the fighter aircraft.
Let's get a few things straight. Germany had already show the effectiveness of incendiaries. Hamburg was an unusual circumstance of the city build and weather. Harris tried this in other places notably Berlin and it did not work. The bombing of cities as such did little to shorten the war, focused bombing of key infrastructure did. Speer said as much, that if they had kept up the bombing of industrial targets he could not have kept going. The morale of the German people was not destroyed any more than the British. It is also worth remembering that the death rate for Harris's aircrew was just under 50%. 55 000 of 120 000.
High winds were not the perfect conditions for a firestorm, still conditions were, allowing the heat of the fires to create a chimney of rising air, pulling in more air from 360 degrees around the target, this became self reinforcing.
As a chaplain I have great reservations on using such tactics on civilians who immediately after the war became our greatest allies.
The insanity and irony is unmistakable.
My Dad was a B-24 tail gunner flying over his grandmothers house in Hamburg so I understand only too well the moral dilemma many German Americans in particular felt.
The Germans switched sides at the end of WW2 mainly because they faced a choice of occupation by the US or the USSR.
War is diametrically opposed to Christian principles in my opinion. But there's a great line in The Lord Of The Rings; "Those who have no swords can still die upon them". When you are attacked you have two choices: resist or die. And it's against human nature to die without a fight.
Jesus was the most courageous man who ever lived. He knew his horrendous fate and accepted it. Very few other people I've ever heard of have been able to do the same. I hope that someday his vision for mankind will be fully realized. In the meantime, there will always be those who want to rule mankind for their own selfish reasons.
So chaplain, if there must be war, it's best to get it over with as quickly and thoroughly as possible. And make sure the other side will never again be your enemy.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
hmmm christianity the brutal users of torture, war, fear and brutality
@@brianniegemann4788 War is diametrically opposed to Christian principles in my opinion. WOW honestly ? Not heard of the crusades ? The wars in Europe between catholics and protastants ? Not heard of the IRA ? not heard of the KKK or even the catholic church supporting the Nazis !
Justinian set out the principles for a ‘Just’ war and many of various Geneva )and other) Conventions were aimed at minimising ‘indiscriminate’ casualties.
But then, as Harris reminds us, they started it.
There was a British bishop, Bishop Bell, who often spoke up against the bombing campaign in the House of Lords.
Philharmonic Orchestra lol
Yeah looked like a big band one to me lol
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
the voice on these is killing me now
?? He sounds the same in the last 750 videos he has made.
@@terry_willis Haven't watched them all. Just started to get to me.
Martin Caidin wrote a book about the bombing attack~The Night Hamburg Died
Not B29s
I lived in Hamburg for a month - in a tent.
And even though the devastation was horrendous it is nothing but a drop in a bucket compared to a nuclear devastation
A lot of the film that goes with the story of the bombing of Hamburg is actually of the Blitz. Look at the British style steel helmets. The Philharmonic Orchestra is not the jazz band pictured.
More important is the omission of the main effect of the raid on Hamburg. Significant resources were taken away from the front lines where the army was fighting to defend Germany. Fighter aircraft, guns and troops that could have been fighting the Russians were devoted to home defence. By the end of the war, 25% of all German ammunition was used in air defence. These raids had the primary objective of destroying German workers' morale and so reduce industrial war production - you are unlikely to turn up for your next shift if your house has been destroyed. However, the real military effect was the removal of important resources from the front line, so affecting the outcome of the war.
Just remember folks... It's not a War Crime the first time.
True. And who was working in the factories producing the 88's, V-2 rockets, mauser rifles, Messerschmidt fighters, Xyklon B cyanide, Panther tanks, etc. etc. And I'm not referring to the slave laborers who were worked to death.
That is not footage of the Hamburg Philharmonic that's a Benny Goodman jazz band. 14:25 Hister would never have put up with American jazz music. There's other clips mislabeled as Germany when that happened in England as well but I'm sure you're missing German archives of period footage but I'd overlook those because actual footage was lacking but I've got to insist you correct that one or correct me because of how crazy it sounds.
Are you using AI? your voice is harder to understand than it used to be tbt
I thought so too, but then I realized I'm getting old and I can't understand anyone anymore
@tykeorama9898 it's the beginning of the video, the audio is weird and unintelligible. The rest of the video is relatively fine, but as someone who understands English spoken through any accent, this one was weird
It sounds like he was too close and over drove the mic
It's just like before
And it's needlessly speedy!
Cool down, please.
Nevertheless, another very interesting WWII historical video.
Cheers
In war there are no winners, just losers and bigger losers.
So true! If the war mongers would only study history to realize what they eventually release upon themselves.
@@markkaminski2416 You think you are so righteous and moral, you are wrong.
NigelHatcherN-
No, if you look at history most wars have been cycles of suffering for the winners and greater suffering for the losers. Being the "winner" still involves plenty of death, loss of family, destruction of property and above all, loss of the right to decide how you prefer to live.
@@brianniegemann4788 I was speaking in terms of the entire population.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons. The victors write the history while the people are never victorious.
War... Only the Civilians seem to suffer.
We should go back to when we fought on empty fields.
Heck go to war in any place thats not populated.
...or, just not fight...? (😂 ...sorry, HAD to be 'that guy')
Belgium (said Mr Clarkson….)
Damn politicians
The common man is the target of war. He fights and dies on all sides in all conflicts, his women are violated, his sons are cut down, he dies of starvation and disease and exposure.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
Excellent
The hamburg firestorm was not intentional. Some of the later raids were calculated.
No, it was no accident. It was carefully researched and planned. Read Richard Overy's book The Bombing War. Amongst his research is the revelation that RE8 used refugee German-Jewish architects to give them information on how houses in Hamburg were constructed.
A lot of people claim the Battle of Britain to be the highpoint of the UK's role in WW2. However operations gomorrah, thunderclap and Millennium should be considered the most glorious actions.
Despite first terrible raids, Germany fought on, so of course there were more
Incidentally, the once-medieval city near me was 65% destroyed, along with many ancient records such as the deeds to my house.
The darker part of this tale? We knew about the Coventry raid, it could have been defended against, there was a problem though, doing that was a huge clue that we were reading the German Mail through Enigma. It was decided to not take any action that could risk Enigma. A Moral Choice I would not have liked to have been in a position to make.
Not true. Enigma was not broken until 6 months later. Certainly the Ultra messages were acted on sparingly, but not in this case. The notion that Coventry was defensible in the autumn of 1940 is absurd. Night fighters were few and ill suited, airborne radar was still in development and the anti aircraft fire was not particularly effective.
The Philharmonic Orchestra turned into a Big Band to celebrate the occasion. "How about some jazz to lift the spirits?"
At 10:24 is that an ELEPHANT doing rubble removal??
In November 1940 there were no allied air forces to respond to the attacks. Ok, the huge 1000 ships Norwegian merchant navy had joined the UK, but none of the foreign countries air forces.
11:05 the claims for the Norden are ludicrous. It didn’t work in cloud, and USAAF tactics were that every bomber released its bombs when they saw the lead bomber do so. Hardly ‘precise’.
0:45 this segment shows the German 1 kg incendiary - that’s a British civil defence film. It’s NOT one of the British 4lb incendiaries. Lazy.
'They shall reap the whirwind'
10:10 shows British civil defence
It’s been termed a war crime, 😕 it probably was but it would have been in response to a war crime committed upon them. It turned into a race to the moral bottom.
Who was working in the factories producing the 88's, V-2 rockets, mauser rifles, Messerschmidt fighters, Xyklon B cyanide, Panther tanks, etc. etc. And I'm not referring to the slave laborers who were worked to death.
As always, misleading thumbnails and title, at this point I'm just unsubscribing, getting tired of these clickbait bs video
At the start you state, not for the first time in your videos, "The Allies" in July 1940. The UK, with the Empire and Commonwealth, was fighting alone during the latter half of 1940 and through first half of 1941 (Russia was attacked end of June 1941 and the USA was dragged, kicking and screaming, into the war in Europe, not when Pearl Harbour was bombed, but when Germany declared war on the USA days later: 11th December 1941.
You also omit to mention the use of "precision" bombing from 1941 via pathfinders marking targets (guided by various radio navaids like OBOE or GEE and radars like H2S).
Fair point, but the allies were more than simply the U.K. American and Russia. There were Free French, Poles and Czechs amongst others.
@@jamjardj1974 I respect your view. But the word "Allies" is generally taken to be in the context of warring nations. By Mid 1940 all the nations of Europe that opposed the Nazis had been subjugated so no "nations" fought on except the UK. Note that I have tremendous respect for the displaced warriors from European nations - especially the Poles who had probably the best motivation - having been betrayed by Germany and Russia.
@@franciscook5819 You need some better history books🙂
@@jamjardj1974 Why? I have stated nothing but facts.
@@franciscook5819 You’ve stated an opinion, not facts.
There were some who saw through the self-deception:
Indiscriminate bombing of civilians had hardened the resolve of the UK and China to resist, so of course the bomber commanders said that indiscriminate bombing of German and Japanese civilians wouldn't have the same effect?
Meanwhile it was known that hitting their fuel supply and reserves was the way to end the war, so for years they expended allied aircrew in the futile effort to kill enemy civilians to harden their resolve, while barely sending 8% of sorties after fuel.
Who do you think were working in the factories producing the 88's, V-2 rockets, mauser rifles, Messerschmidt fighters, Xyklon B cyanide, Panther tanks, etc. etc. And I'm not referring to the slave laborers who were worked to death.
You failed to mention the new word that was coined following the German destruction of Coventry - to coventrate.
With significant refinement, the allied air forces coventrated over a dozen German cities. Subsequently, the US used the same process against Japanese cities once they had secured air bases close enough to the Japanese home islands for B-29s to make the round trip (with a full bomb load on the outward leg, obviously).
And on the 16th of July 1945, such tactics became moot, following the successful detonation of the world's first nuclear weapon.
In the late 70 s there was a comedy show on UK TV which was set in Germany. One of the characters was trying to describe German culture to someone but couldn't think of the right words and asked his colleague how to describe Dresden. His mate dryly replied "Coventry"
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
Truly I was interested to watch yet able to understand about every fifth word.
Get your ears cleaned out
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
War - what is it good for? Profits, of course.
The IDF needs to follow the example of RAF USAAF Red Air Force WWII
"Unconditional surrender or annihilation"
Coventry gets forgotten, but it’s whole centre is modern, as it’s whole centre was bombed. ‘Hitler’s demolition crews’ did their work.
More forgotten is that British bombings intentionally targeted German cultural cities with no war industry in an attempt to goad Germany into reprisal attacks.
Gurnica in Spain was the first victim of the German bombing in their civil ( nothing civil about it) war.
Yes, it's the reason most German cities today have modern downtowns.
A visit to the ruins of Coventry Cathedral is very worthwhile! And then look around you at all the modern buildings around you. As has been said earlier Coventry City Centre was completely destroyed!
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
10:25 elephants?
Dresden was worse than Hamburg, or was it?
What ever changed your voice it not a good change.
He has sounded this way in the last 750 Dark videos.
That Jazz band entertaining germans at 14:14 looked rather American to me.
What does "American" vs "German" look like?
@@fredericksaxton3991 jazz and big band were popular in Europe, not just the U.S.
@@jacobmccandles1767 Oh yes, but the NAZI's hated Jazz because of it's connections to black americans and certainly would not have put on public displays of jazz to encourage the hapless german civilians.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
Discount mark felton.
The first 6 minutes, is just a degraded copy of the audio that follows. 9 minute video as 15. Cheap engagement farming?
They had an even better one , it was called fat man , and little boy .
Your AI program is deficient. It's "write clickbait title" is sub-par.
There was no "allies" in 1940.
There was, france, Norway, Canada Australia New Zealand India South Africa West indies and many many more, the allied forces existed before 1941
Yes, the United Kingdom was a set of allies in itself. Plus France and Poland still had alliances with Great Britain.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, uhh
(Edwin Starr 1970)
Really Fahrenheit?
Well the temp in Fahrenheit 451 ...is paper book burning temp... Inspired one famous dystopian novel by Ray Bradbury and the survival of another was inspired by the survivor of the Dresden fire Storm raid ...(Stalin was also asking for attacks to draw men and guns away from the Eastern front)....a US POW crawled out of an underground Slaughterhouse meat cold store, the streets were still hot and blackened, he saw it all and had to collect the bodies.. caught up in the fire storm. Many were gone never to be found ...sucked into the air by the flames because of the draw of the fires.
He however remembered the Sign on the cold store door:
Slaughter house 5
He later used it as the title of his SF futuristic anti war novel.. his name :
Kurt Vonnegut, 😎 a man who went on to warn the Vietnam and later generations of human stupidity and excess.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
He never saw it coming because the generals around him tried to tell him about strategies and battle field going on BUTT the little ego mustache thought he knew better...
By November 1941, Barrack Obama somehow was a scientist pouring a test tube thingy.
A lot of filler on this video
This may be interesting if I could understand crack talk.
Awful but deseved
the same thing the Israelis have done in Gaza. trying to make it unlivable forcing civilians to eventually leave their land then will do the same strategy in the west bank pushing the inhabitants to Jordan. that is why Egypt is refusing to let the Palestinians into Sinai because they already know what is being planned for
.... considering the actions, mentality and speach of the people who have constantly FA .... 50 years overdue FO
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowest point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
Why does your voice sound like that, not cool
Maybe Chakotay had an off day. 😅
Sounds like a you problem
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowest point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
An informative video. You might have mentioned that it was the British who bombed German cities first (I'm not forgetting what Hitler had already done to Warsaw and Rotterdam). Churchill knew that the RAF was losing the Battle of Britain: airfields, hangers and planes undergoing repair and maintenance suffered heavy losses at the hands of the Luftwaffe. After a German bomber unleashed its load on London in error, Churchill, who had wanted to bomb Berlin, now had the excuse to do so. After Berlin was bombed, Hitler then ordered the Luftwaffe to bomb London in reprisal. This made the Luftwaffe concentrate its effort on British Cities, providing the RAF time to rebuild the hangers, sector stations and aerodromes, which had suffered a beating hitherto. A cruel policy for the people of London, Coventry, Manchester and Bristol to name a few, but perhaps the smartest decision he made during the war.
Good analysis
@@brianniegemann4788 Thank you sir.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
And the V-1 and V-2 rockets?
Grampa Roy, maybe Woody, Glenn of the 8's? Helped cack the eggs, then Fry THOSE EGGS!
They would have willingly paid a higher price for most of the firebombings ! Roy was EWO, Paul battle of the atlantic EWO, Woody Everything, all Allies, and the french. Glenn twin screws, in the Med, and N Afrika! all ETO.
loofafa?
Luftwaffe
@@TacticsTechniquesandProcedures The issue isn't the word, it's the pronunciation. Or lack of it. Unless the sponge kingdom was a part of WWII in a way I wasn't aware.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
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We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowesr point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
Sorry can’t stand the super excited AI voice.
Complimentary algorithm enhancement comment!😊
Where's the notice?
☆NOTICE☆
@@YELLTELL 💥
I don't think the Nazi's were big on notice either...
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowest point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
Not easy to understand your speech sadly
No. Churchill used a stray Luftwaffe bomb from an attack on the London Docks as an excuse to attack German civilians.
If true explain the deliberate bombing, by the Germans, of civilians in Guernica, Warsaw, Rotterdam, Belgium, Coventry, London and other places before Churchill became PM.
The Germans even coined a term for the destruction of a city. They called it “Coventising” from the destruction of Coventry.
This is what is know as war crimes.
More like tit for tat
Your right unfortunately no good men can be found In order to have law rule the Land & hold the corrupt accountable...
The germans had been doing this for years and were complaining that it was happening to them? Cry me a river
Cause and affect! 🥱
Nope, they bombed us, we bombed them. Concentration camps were war crimes.
I didn't know Obama was around in WW2 0:18
They're called the "Greatest Generation" because they were the greatest at *war crimes* 🙃
@@skenzyme81 winning is not a crime.
Heroic but misguided.
@@JSFGuy If you are willing to lose your sanity and being human for victory you have already lost
@@erikvan9582 That's not how it works. I hope you're glad you can spew a bunch of nonsense due to the sacrifice of others.
@@erikvan9582 Says the person who never faced a man staring at him through rifle sites. Humans are animals, and like all other animals, can become very savage. Hitler had already unleaahed horrors beyond words, all that was left was to send that monster back to its master. Its sad, tragic even, but nature is no less cruel nor kind.
Sounds kind of like genocide... weird. Sheesh
You should look up the definition of “genocide”.
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowest point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
War crimes
read some books you child
We don't need to love or hate anyone to acknowledge what happened . . The problem is, the use of phosphorus weapons in second waves of night bombing campaigns begun against German cities, non-military targets -- three months prior to Germany responding in kind against London, but never using phosphorus weapons as used against German civilians to burn people crowded inside basements of buildings in an attempt to avoid harm . . Fire that flows like water to the lowest point. A concrete vat of melted flesh was the result. Churchill was responsible for this method of diverting the successful strategic bombing campaign against British airfields and industrial targets, and yet it took 3 months of the inhuman sacrifice of civilian lives before the Germans began to respond against London.
. . Regardless of what we are led to believe through repetition -- this was another unnecessary war like the first world war. Repetition rather than comprehension in the context of preceding and current events, no different from today is how war was justified -- and coincidentally for similar reasons.
There was no such thing as a civilian in Germany at the time.
Actually there were. One of the many reasons that Germany lost the war was that Hitler would not allow a total mobilization of the German economy until it was much too late. Civilian life in Germany was relatively normal until 1943. Unlike the UK, USSR, and UK, Germany didn't use women in the work force extensively, preferring they tend to their families and not suffer privations that might undermine moral of the fighting forces.
These days this approach is called "guns and butter."
AI narrator is far less than ideal.
Mr Ai narrator is back. I'm out!