Trying Fiasp Insulin for the First Time!
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[DISCLAIMER: While I am a Registered Nurse, nothing that I post should ever be taken as medical/nursing advice. Please consult your doctor if you have questions about your individual diabetes management and overall health.]
I've tried Fiasp in the pump myself about a year ago and changed back to Novorapid after about three months. Main reasons were:
1. Strong stinging when bolusing
2. I could wear sets only half as long as with Novorapid as the site became inflamed very quickly
3. I needed about 30% more insulin because the added vitamin, which reduces the time Fiasp needs to peak, is known to build insulin resistances
4. Sometimes when correcting for a high boluses seemed to disappear and not affecting my blood sugar at all, only after multiple corrections they all hit at the same time causing the most dangerous lows I ever had
All these problems developed over this three month period and immediately resolved themselves after switching back to Novorapid (except the resistance took a couple of weeks).
The slight improvements in after meal spikes were not worth the strain it gave me.
I had Fiasp in my pump last summer and had a similar experience to you! Plus I had these awful site bumps, that were quite painful. The post meal spikes were gone, but the other side effects were not worth it.
when your blood sugar was 222 i checked my dexcom and that was what mine was too!
Laina Elyse I love your videos
Laina Elyse I love your videos so much and I’m a diabetic too!
NO !!!!!!!
I checked mine and it was 121😂
Hello Danica, I have had Diabetes for just over a year now (March 4, 2017 - diagnosed) so I am still learning tips and tricks to help me out. Your videos always help and have helped me a lot, Thanks for sharing all your tips on youtube for fellow diabetics to see. Also as a Christian, I really liked how you added your Bible study in the video!!!
This is very interesting. I will ask my endocrinologist about it next week.
A tip for you...we use the exact same pump...Your reservoir contains slightly more insulin than the insulin needed to prime your infusion set. No need to waste 17-18 units of insulin just to fill the tubing. Pull your old cartridge out of the pump after it tells you "Cartridge Empty". Connect it to the new infusion set and fill the tubing with the remaining insulin in the cartridge. This can save you some insulin.
Hi Danica, just a suggestion. I too had a few digestive issues and went gluten-free (although blood tests confirmed I'm NOT gluten sensitive. I know digest better and spikes have stopped. I also use American health super papaya mint plus enzymes when I have a lot of cheese or fatty foods. These two things helped me go from a 7.6 A1c down to a 6.8. Just thought I'd share.
Good luck with the Fiasp!! I tried it in my pump last year and the post-meal spikes were gone, but I had some other nasty side effects like skin issues and burning :\ so I switched back to Novorapid. I hope it works well for you Danica :)
Oh wow Michelle lord wow i really like actually love your videos wow i love your videos. 😀👍
Danica my son tried the Freestyle Libre. He’s always hated finger sticks and at some point became non-compliant. He has had a double digit A1C for more than a year. After 3 months with Libre he was at 8.6!!!!! We are so pleased. We tried a CGM a few years back but, he would never calibrate (because of the finger stick) so it didn’t work out for us. Love the Libre, thanks for reviewing it.
Btw some times you still need to finger stick on the libre, I suffered with capillary a lot due to fibromyalgia but my boyfriend bought me a genteel lancing device for Christmas and its life changing
I use yo be like your son (still not where I want to be) but just want to say when my a1c was 10-11 I ended up in ICU for 2 weeks with ketoacidosis, I almost died.
Hi. I love Affreza for dealing with high blood sugars that won’t budge even after I have taken insulin. Affreza seems to help make the insulin I have on board work better when I can’t get my numbers to budge. Also, thanks for your positive attitude and your vlog. It has really helped me in learning how to deal with my type 1 diabetes diagnosis for the past three years. You are awesome!
I love your Videos so so much. 2 Years ago I was really down because of my type 1 and i couldn't get myself to take care of it. At that time I found your channel and it motivated me so much. So thank you for that.
Grocery shopping with a low blood sugar always results in some sweet purchases!
It has also led to my mom having to eat food before paying for it and me rooting through my bags after checkout, not realizing my finger never stopped bleeding from the prick and causing my food to look like it came right out of a crime scene. (My mom and I are both hypoglycemic)
I always find out about awesome products from you. I spike a lot too, its annoying but I love that you keep a good attitude about it. Best way to live life.
Put that in your pump and prime it!
Thanks for all the videos. Love this channel.
According to me Freestyle Libre sensor and Ambrosia Blucon device are best for monitor sugar values on phone and watch
i been type1 diabetic for 13 years I think is annoying when your have a high its harder to manage then a low is
Danica, thank you for your videos! I know you know this and I hope it's not taken the wrong way, but just a note to others - always consider the amount of fat and/or protein in your meals because high amounts of either impact carb absorption and insulin action times tremendously! I use the extended bolus feature on my Omnipod so much and it really helps, but pizza for me is like a twice a year thing because of what it does to my BG!
And when you're low, fat (such as in ding dongs) delays gastric emptying so it's really not the best choice for treating a low. I use fat strategically - when I'm low I do a 15g carb juice box (or two if I'm really low) and if I need to keep it up, say if I'm low right before bed, I'll follow it with a spoonful of peanut butter about 15 minutes later.
That's just what I find helpful, but I know everyone is different. I don't mean for this to sound judgmental because it's really not. I just thought it was worth a mention since I think the high fat content in literally everything you ate (pizza, ding dongs, white bread, deli meat, cookies, bagels/cream cheese) might have had something to do with your data. Personally, I probably would have tested it out with straight carbs as that would spike faster but not keep it there so long, but this video was still helpful to me so thanks again!
Have you considered switching to the T-Slim?
I believe in a previous video she said she would be once she has to get a new pump.
vlogging peacock
She did indeed, I watched it the other day. She will be pleased with the T-Slim I believe.
I am sure she will, I love mine.
Ug. Just tried to get Fiasp, to try it out. Insurance denied, so it was going to cost me $1,523.99 for 30 day supply, (with the $100 off from the savings card). I guess I'll be waiting until the cost comes down! Keep up the good videos Danica, I've learned a lot watching them, especially after DX.
Oh my gosh!! My doctor just gave me some Fiasp to try!! I have been nervous to try it so thank you for doing this review. None of my diabetic friends have tried it yet
Danica, has your doc discussed gastroparesis with you?
That's what I was going to say. I have it and those are classic symptoms.
Danica I am on novolog rapid in a omnipod pump and I have tried humalogbamd humilin I became allergic to them even tried apidra allergic even worse. I can use novolog I was wondering about the end result of this trial for you.
As always, you deliver great info... Thank you!
Thank u for the video. My 12 yrs old son is Dt1 and am tryin to learn all abt. Fiasp .. so how is it? Is it really fast? Thnk u.
Hi Danica. I have had type 1 for 60 years. PLEASE be cautious to not be a chaser........ups, downs, up, downs.
om yassin Hi. First of all...DON’T PANIC.
so wait how does it effect the basal dosing??? just wondering, I also struggle with pre bolusing. I recently had to switch from novolog to homolog and my numbers have gone astray!! good luck!!
I have had fiasp for about two month. The thing I found out is it works good in my pump when I extend the bolus out over two and a half hours. Also noro novodisk is pricing fiasp about the same as novolog. So soon I hope all insurances have it.
Dear Danica, Thank you so much for sharing this experience! It is so helpful to be able to get first hand information! I am still wary of Fiasp and hesitate to make the change from Humalog. Are you still using Fiasp or did you change back? Best wishes!
One issue with Fiasp and after meal spiking is the shortness of the tail (something we all wanted but didn't really think about what it meant).
Went on Fiasp day it was available and my insurance was covering at same rate as Novolog!
Check on long term use of non-diluted Fiasp vs 50/50 mix (or other % mixes). European users see much better results long term at infusion site and no difference in absorption rates (Someone at Novo kind of agreed when I asked them but couldn't officially say anything)(although each user's experience will vary)
Been using fiasp since two weeks now (pairing with libre) I can really see a huge difference! Hope it stays this way and I don't get résistance like so many do on fiasp.
Danica, Danica, Danica...listening to your roller coaster readings and eating style reminded me of myself. I've been doing this for 62 years and my last A1c was 6.1 which was an increase from 5.9 but still enough to make the Docs happy. My eating style has been consistent and it is a well rounded diet. My lipid panels are unbelievably great for my age so the Docs want me to stick with what's working. For me...I am going to try and find a way to go back on Apidra while my Vibe is still functional. Found Apidra much quicker in and out. I am suspecting the Novolog has gotten inconsistent somehow. Maybe that varied potency issue seen on the report a few months ago. Anyhoo...know you're not alone and thank you for the test run w/Fiasp
I love your videos Thank you for your realness. That would be me eating what I want. But I spike high as well and fast. I am waiting to get approval on a Medtronic 670G and Guardian CGM. This will be my first insulin pump and I am excited about the change
Hello Danica....I love your channel. You are awesome!!! What app do you use on your phone to keep track of your levels?
I've used fiasp since February (I live in Denmark), and yes it does sting! Much more than NovoRapid (NovoLog), even though that sometimes stings as well. I've also noticed that it makes small bumps under the skin that last longer than those that NovoRapid left. All in all, I had waaay too high hopes for it, but it is good, just not amazing. It's just a lot of learning again, after pumping with NovoRapid for 10 years. It doesn't really translate 1:1 with NovoRapid/-Log but it's close.
You have to keep in mind that the recommended "active time" for NovoRapid/-Log is 4 hours, but it's only 3 hours for fiasp. Also, I don't buy the "bolus after meal" thing they use as a selling point. It normally doesn't work that fast - I bolus right before a meal, but preferably 5 - 10 minutes before a meal (depends on BG), whereas I waited 20 minutes for NovoRapid/-Log before eating.
You also have learn to use the extended bolus function on occasion, something I'm completely new at, because fiasp can work too fast for some meals (like pizza and greasy pasta dishes), so you go low and then having to eat and then going high a couple of hours later when the meal kicks in.
A food diary is very helpful when learning to use fiasp. :)
P.S. Willing to pay $60 - $80 to try it!?! Wow, insulin is expensive in the US! I pay $42 (current exhange rate) without any subsidy (same for NovoRapid), but national health insurance kicks in after $160 out of pocket with a reduced rate of 50%, then after spending a bit more 75% and then 85% after $570 of total cost of medicine, so after 14 vials, making my total out of pocket expenses around $300 a year at most for all my medications (not only insulin)...
That sounds great. Seems like our system in the U.S. is behind with stuff like this. Insulin here can cost a lot per month.
That's great! I'm in the U.S.and on Medicare. I pay ca $300 a vial when I'm in the donut hole (Rx purchases $1700 - 4500 in the year). Makes T1D an expensive hobby.
'give it a shot' ehhh did anyone else notice the pun
You can’t fool me 😉
If you can figure out how B3 lets insulin be absorbed faster PLEASE let me know. it may actually be useful in insulin resistance (trying it currently for that). Curious what you were told about dilution with Novolog (if anything)
Don't think that taking half a dose of Novolog and half dose of Fiasp is a great test as I'm sure you realize.
Where did you get the coupon, can you post the link?!? Thanks
I had a desire to get an Animas Vibe pump (based on yours and others' postings on UA-cam). While watching your Fiasp test I noticed the "Vibe" infusion sets are pretty much exactly the same as my brand new (3 months ago) Tandem T-Slim X2 that I opted for now that the Vibe is gone. I want to strongly recommend this new pump to you and anyone else who needs a pump. I've been a T1D for almost 40 years and a Medtronic pump user for the last 8 years. I wanted a pump with "bluetooth" capabilities for CGM use and preferred Dexcom technology over the Medtronic. Now that the G6 is available, it will work with the Closed Loop upgrade Tandem will offer (hopefully late this year or early next year) for the T-Slim X2. This pump also has a reservoir similar to your Vibe pump. The X2 appears to be so accurate, I'm narrowing my graph downwards between 80 to 150 MG/dL. Check out the Tandem people yourself. (PS: I noticed that we share the same Study Bible I and four others in my study group use.)
Whenever I go low I always start with glucose tabs then a complex carb. They taste like sweet tarts and get into your system faster than orange juice.
whether it is Type 1 or Type 2 or a healthy individual in general limiting sugars and carbs is a much healthy way of eating food. Unless one is doing a very manual work, I don't see the reason to bulk up on carbs. You can have much healthier alternatives - proteins, nuts, dairy free products, green leafy vegetables, lots of salads. You will notice that your insulin units will come down. Having blood sugar > 200 for extended time damages body. just 2 cents. God bless
Hi Danica how are you finding using this?
How long do you take before or after eating?
Where do u live (state) ... and what insurance do u have ???? I’m getting killed with my Humalog Vials
It’s new but my nurse telling me that is the same as novo rapid and novolog
Why do you wipe your bloody finger on your tester case instead of licking your finger?
haha I knowwww! I thought that was interesting too. I lick my finger and also suck the blood out of the test strip before putting it back in the case. I guess we all have our habits.
R R .....What!
Have you tried Afrezza yet?
Is that a MIO pod you are using? How come yours looks dual color with a swish? Is that an animus thing or what? Mine is solid colors such as blue or grey but not swished.
Ruth Jones it's not a mio, but basically animas version of a mio.
Wow, you have great insurance. $20!
You took the Fiasp at 2:22 and then later at 7:04 you were low...then at 6:51 you spiked.....Somethings not right with your time . Can you do a better test? I am really interested.
I love fiasp so much
Lyumjev is good for me.
Account for fat in pizza. Do a temp bolus
Love your videos!!
Those cookies will get ya every time. BTW, I love pizza too, but eat the thin crust type. I can usually eat two small pieces without needing add'l meds. I'm on oral meds only. Cute pup.
The Insulin I Use Is Humalog
Loved it!! ❤
Seems so weird to me that you actually have to pay for your insulin! I really want to give fiasp a shot as well
Lisa does insurance usually cover the full amount of insulin ? My son will be getting off of medical and we will be going my husband's insurance.. and I just wonder what the insurance will cover n how much we will end up having to pay for supply's...
Hi Marisa, i'm sorry i should have mentioned that i'm in The Netherlands. Over here my insurance fully covers my insulin. I'm not sure if that's the case in other countries as well!
Wow here in Canada we can get insulin over the counter we pay $35.00
I have the accu chek guide meter also
thx for the conversions to mmol/L
Ding dongs are my favorite!! Have you decided what pump you are going to go to??
Your Bible study sounds great! Is it through Bible Study Fellowship?
I love you girls' for studying the letter God sent to you, the Bible. 😂
The day I came across Dr IGUDIA UA-cam channel was the day I started living a more comfortable life again after using his herbs medication in curing my Diabetes disease
Great video!!👍👍👍😘
Hi yall I just got my libre i am loving it
Queen Bee we have been using it too. A1C is down 🤩
Queen Bee I love mine too. Using the Ambrosia night rider with it!
Good Vlog Love your DOG :D
I hate when it stings.
Good luck with everything. Geez I wish my insulin was so cheap. 330 dollars for 3 bottles after insurance. Such a scam.
Ummm, Danica that's a HUGE needle
Junk food rollercoaster, too much bread D, otherwise awesome job, guy at work has 7yo daughter type1, she now watches you. Keep up the great work :)
I cant believe u have to pay. Soo lucky insulin is free im the uk
Shouldn't have given the Novalog
For diabetics pizza makes bs rise then drop later
TWO PIECES OF PIZZA ! I DO NOT REMEMBER WHAT PIZZA TASTES LIKE , GOOD LUCK WITH THE NEW INSULIN!
Testing a new insulin by eating pizza and guessing carbs doesn’t give an accurate assessment. In fact, it was really just a complete and total waste of time.
My pizza is 40 crabs max for two slices
*sees basal rate of 0.775*
Me: cries bc mine is like 2.5 lmao
20$ for two bottles. That is mental. US...
the price per bottle for humalog is about $300+ in the U.S without insurance im pretty sure
That is fucking insane. In Sweden we get Insulin for free. The government pay about $1 a bottle. EDITED
try cinnamon, it will cure your beetus!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
For a diabetes educator you have a horrible diet
And how’s your diet Laura? 🙄