Shooters like Steph specifically rely on their hands/ arms guidance and strength to make shots from whatever range. They don’t have a steady form from which they make shots though. Form shooting kind of shuts down the aspect of that, and forces you to shoot the same form every time, there fore forcing you to rely on body strength for range, which is less accurate than actually relying on hands and finger tips. Form shooting will make you a great standing shooter, but that’s about where it end
I get what he’s saying, I’m going to be coaching my son soon…he’s saying once you get your shot down, you have it..BUT in a competitive game, you’re rarely gonna get into your perfect form before you shoot. So basically get the players used to the touch at certain ranges. So no matter what, as long as they have a good look at the rim, and the touch, they’ll be good. Form is gonna change OFTEN.
Personally I always thought form shooting was a stupid idea. A free throw is a different Shot than a 3 or a mid range pull-up on the move. A post up fade is different from a corner catch & shoot. A wide open corner 3 is different from a corner 3 when a high jumper pops out & you Naturally have to adjust
During practice all shots that I make could be shots made during a game. No circus shots, no form shooting, no one handed goofery. More time spend on polishing something that I use during a game is going to translate to better results. At least that's my approach.
That’s fair! Like I mentioned a few times throughout the video, I think there’s definitely circumstances where form shooting can be of use. But I also never use 1 hand form shooting regardless.
I’m ngl listening to him say don’t form shoot to warm up your jumper initially sounded mad crazy but after starting with the 8 am AAU method it was weird but I’ve never seen my jumpshot warm up so fast normally im like a oven it takes me a while to warm up but once im hot im hot but today definitely felt like a microwave I was warm within minutes
@@VisionDrivenBasketball The game is evolving all these years I’ve always told younger hoopers to stop shooting 3s as soon as you walk in the gym I always use the analogy of a car in the winter time
Hey man, Id put myself as a "decent" shooter. I can work within the line, but struggle to even make any 3's without lots of effort (I wouldnt call myself weak). Would you recommend I jump to the threes and work and adjust unorthodoxically like u talk about 30:45, or focus on my paint work and let the threes come naturally?
good question! A little bit of both! The absolute most important thing for you right now is reps. Reps doing the things that you want to eventually be good at, meaning shooting 3s. Now this doesn't mean that you need to jump to shooting 500 threes a day or anything like that. But find a sweet spot where your form isn't breaking down too bad and you're getting a lot of reps. My advice would be to find the range where it starts to become a challenge. Maybe its a step before the 3 point line, wherever that might be for you. And then work from that range as much as you can until you get comfortable there. Then move back a little until it becomes a challenge again and repeat the process until you get comfortable from 3. Then once that happens, you can keep going back and eventually, normal 3's will become easy to you. Just takes time and purposeful reps!
this vid is fire. one of the best explanations i have seen/heard on why form shooting is blah! it just doesn't translate. After awhile you have gotten all you are going to get from form shooting. Challenge is where to the learning and development is found. Don't be a zoo tiger.
Great video Coach I have 1 questions Well I'm trying to get good At shooting, defense and playmaking but idk what workouts to do Etc I don't know what to practice on
Pro's form shoot for the psychological benefits of it, not really for training. Just seeing the swish continuously helps you shoot consistently throughout the game.
Ok you dont want to demonize form shoot, so let me. Form shooting (fs) is largely outdated. If you want to practice fs, shoot free-throws. It is not for today's game. Why? Here's my own experiences. 1. Fs is for wide open static/ spot up shooting, which rearly happens in today's game unless you're you're a terrible shooter so nobody is bothering to guard you. I have done form shooting, but when the game starts, i sometimes get blocked by people who have no business blocking my shots. This is because my shooting has become so slow its not applicable. 2. Alot of missed shots. This was because, in trying to speed up my shooting, my form and flow are compromised, all because I didnt wanted to get blocked. 3. Fs messes up your flow. Because fs is done close to the basket, which means you dont jump, anytime im shooting remotely away from the basket, there's a disconnect between the jump and the shot. Infact i often shoot on the way down and or dont generate enough power to shoot at the 3s. Its not a strenght issue but definitely a flow / technique/ mechanics issue.
Are you serious? Come on man , NBA elite shooters put countless hours of shots up. They already have made 10k 20k shots.Form has been ingrained very young , he was forbidden to shoot 3 pointers one summer as a kid Curry does all that stuff to keep from being bored. Doing the same thing over and over just gets boring no matter what you are doing.
@@precisionhoops365 yes and Ochocinco ate McDonalds every day and was a 4x All Pro in the NFL. So does that mean we should tell kids to eat McDonalds everyday if they want to make it to the NFL? Obviously not. I’m not saying that reps aren’t necessary. I’m saying that “traditional” form shooting isn’t what makes great shooters great. It’s the fact that they are 1) obsessed with shooting and put in a ton of time and 2) they actually work on shooting the shots they want to make in games and 3) they do it consistently for years. I literally started off the video saying this is applicable ONLY to older players that are already good shooters. So Steph Curry as a middle schooler trying to change his form and build a new habit does not apply. I’m talking about the players who have a good foundation already who think a million form shots is how they should be spending their time if they want to make more shots in games. There’s so many better uses of time. Give me a player who makes 500 form shots a day in the paint and another player who makes 150 game situation shots a day, the second player will be a much better shooter when the lights turn on and the game starts.
Wokeness is now seeped into basketball workouts 🤣 this video is silly at best. Form shooting is something that professionals have been doing since the beginning of time and still do it till this day. Show me a great shooter who doesn't work on their form with form shooting. Show me 1! I'll wait
@@VisionDrivenBasketball oh i watched the whole video buddy. stop it. i get it you have to try and say something interesting so people will think your inovative and click your video. i get it. I litterally just watched a video of steph curry and ray allen doing form shooting. If they do it, everybody needs to do it. watching some of your other videos i think you doing your thing but chill out with the click baiting.
It’s a mental thing when you get in the gym , to see the ball go in and warm up before you put the work in
Shooters like Steph specifically rely on their hands/ arms guidance and strength to make shots from whatever range. They don’t have a steady form from which they make shots though. Form shooting kind of shuts down the aspect of that, and forces you to shoot the same form every time, there fore forcing you to rely on body strength for range, which is less accurate than actually relying on hands and finger tips.
Form shooting will make you a great standing shooter, but that’s about where it end
He bought me when he brought up the school warmup times I gotta get game ready with like 2-4 shots in 5 minutes
it's tough!!
I get what he’s saying, I’m going to be coaching my son soon…he’s saying once you get your shot down, you have it..BUT in a competitive game, you’re rarely gonna get into your perfect form before you shoot. So basically get the players used to the touch at certain ranges. So no matter what, as long as they have a good look at the rim, and the touch, they’ll be good. Form is gonna change OFTEN.
form shooting is like how curling a 15 lb dumbbell is great for beginners but not too helpful for advanced ppl
Personally I always thought form shooting was a stupid idea. A free throw is a different Shot than a 3 or a mid range pull-up on the move. A post up fade is different from a corner catch & shoot. A wide open corner 3 is different from a corner 3 when a high jumper pops out & you Naturally have to adjust
Good analogy!
During practice all shots that I make could be shots made during a game. No circus shots, no form shooting, no one handed goofery. More time spend on polishing something that I use during a game is going to translate to better results. At least that's my approach.
I like a small amount of 2 handed from shots, but don't like 1 handed shooting.
That’s fair! Like I mentioned a few times throughout the video, I think there’s definitely circumstances where form shooting can be of use. But I also never use 1 hand form shooting regardless.
I’m ngl listening to him say don’t form shoot to warm up your jumper initially sounded mad crazy but after starting with the 8 am AAU method it was weird but I’ve never seen my jumpshot warm up so fast normally im like a oven it takes me a while to warm up but once im hot im hot but today definitely felt like a microwave I was warm within minutes
It’s a cheat code!
@@VisionDrivenBasketball The game is evolving all these years I’ve always told younger hoopers to stop shooting 3s as soon as you walk in the gym I always use the analogy of a car in the winter time
I Do Balance RDL’s for a shooting warm up
Hey man, Id put myself as a "decent" shooter. I can work within the line, but struggle to even make any 3's without lots of effort (I wouldnt call myself weak). Would you recommend I jump to the threes and work and adjust unorthodoxically like u talk about 30:45, or focus on my paint work and let the threes come naturally?
good question! A little bit of both! The absolute most important thing for you right now is reps. Reps doing the things that you want to eventually be good at, meaning shooting 3s. Now this doesn't mean that you need to jump to shooting 500 threes a day or anything like that. But find a sweet spot where your form isn't breaking down too bad and you're getting a lot of reps. My advice would be to find the range where it starts to become a challenge. Maybe its a step before the 3 point line, wherever that might be for you. And then work from that range as much as you can until you get comfortable there. Then move back a little until it becomes a challenge again and repeat the process until you get comfortable from 3. Then once that happens, you can keep going back and eventually, normal 3's will become easy to you. Just takes time and purposeful reps!
@@VisionDrivenBasketballThats great! Thank you this and the video helped clear up a lot on my mind
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this vid is fire. one of the best explanations i have seen/heard on why form shooting is blah! it just doesn't translate. After awhile you have gotten all you are going to get from form shooting. Challenge is where to the learning and development is found. Don't be a zoo tiger.
That last line!!
Great video Coach I have 1 questions Well I'm trying to get good At shooting, defense and playmaking but idk what workouts to do Etc I don't know what to practice on
I’ve got a free two week program that you should check out!
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right now cant train my shot becuse of a shoulder pain. How to get rid of it?
I’d do shoulder stretches that emphasize working out your rotator cuff and rest your shoulder
Resistance bands are good
@@greyman662 Thanks
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Pro's form shoot for the psychological benefits of it, not really for training. Just seeing the swish continuously helps you shoot consistently throughout the game.
Psychological benefits for sure, but there are a lot of people who significantly overrate the physical benefits of it as well
@@VisionDrivenBasketball 100% Agreed.
how do you fix your form then, cuz all shooters have great technique??
I’ve got some videos on my channel that go in depth on fixing form!
Ok you dont want to demonize form shoot, so let me.
Form shooting (fs) is largely outdated. If you want to practice fs, shoot free-throws. It is not for today's game. Why? Here's my own experiences.
1. Fs is for wide open static/ spot up shooting, which rearly happens in today's game unless you're you're a terrible shooter so nobody is bothering to guard you. I have done form shooting, but when the game starts, i sometimes get blocked by people who have no business blocking my shots. This is because my shooting has become so slow its not applicable.
2. Alot of missed shots. This was because, in trying to speed up my shooting, my form and flow are compromised, all because I didnt wanted to get blocked.
3. Fs messes up your flow. Because fs is done close to the basket, which means you dont jump, anytime im shooting remotely away from the basket, there's a disconnect between the jump and the shot. Infact i often shoot on the way down and or dont generate enough power to shoot at the 3s. Its not a strenght issue but definitely a flow / technique/ mechanics issue.
Well said
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Are you serious? Come on man , NBA elite shooters put countless hours of shots up. They already have made 10k 20k shots.Form has been ingrained very young , he was forbidden to shoot 3 pointers one summer as a kid Curry does all that stuff to keep from being bored. Doing the same thing over and over just gets boring no matter what you are doing.
@@precisionhoops365 yes and Ochocinco ate McDonalds every day and was a 4x All Pro in the NFL. So does that mean we should tell kids to eat McDonalds everyday if they want to make it to the NFL? Obviously not. I’m not saying that reps aren’t necessary. I’m saying that “traditional” form shooting isn’t what makes great shooters great. It’s the fact that they are 1) obsessed with shooting and put in a ton of time and 2) they actually work on shooting the shots they want to make in games and 3) they do it consistently for years.
I literally started off the video saying this is applicable ONLY to older players that are already good shooters. So Steph Curry as a middle schooler trying to change his form and build a new habit does not apply. I’m talking about the players who have a good foundation already who think a million form shots is how they should be spending their time if they want to make more shots in games. There’s so many better uses of time.
Give me a player who makes 500 form shots a day in the paint and another player who makes 150 game situation shots a day, the second player will be a much better shooter when the lights turn on and the game starts.
Bro your videos is so good but turn that damn music in the background off it nearly causedd me a heart attack
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Wokeness is now seeped into basketball workouts 🤣 this video is silly at best. Form shooting is something that professionals have been doing since the beginning of time and still do it till this day.
Show me a great shooter who doesn't work on their form with form shooting. Show me 1! I'll wait
Next time just admit you didn’t actually watch the video or listen to anything that was said. It’s okay, it’s not for everyone.
@@VisionDrivenBasketball oh i watched the whole video buddy. stop it. i get it you have to try and say something interesting so people will think your inovative and click your video. i get it. I litterally just watched a video of steph curry and ray allen doing form shooting. If they do it, everybody needs to do it. watching some of your other videos i think you doing your thing but chill out with the click baiting.
Nah.