Ni Traktor S4 - External Vinyl Control Setup

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  • @xSectR
    @xSectR 2 роки тому +8

    Ok ok, I know this is gonna help someone who is struggling to get output from there turntables whilst following this tutorial.
    If using Mac OSX (may possibly apply to windows as well) make sure that traktor has access to your microphone. Failing to have this setting applied will mean your software, and subsequently your controller will not be able to accept external audio input.
    Go to system settings > privacy > privacy > microphone > allow traktor access.
    This had me stuck for a while but I stumbled upon a commenter suggesting this on the NI forums and it worked!

    • @samnewbold9755
      @samnewbold9755 Рік тому

      Omg!!! You’re a Saint. Ty so much for sharing!

  • @kierPandS
    @kierPandS 6 місяців тому +1

    Really useful, I've been struggling to get my record decks working alongside the digital music, thank you, sorted now :)

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  6 місяців тому

      Mad to think I made this video because a few people asked me to from a mix. Glad it works :)

  • @HousewerkRecords
    @HousewerkRecords 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man, I got the S4 MK2 and have now set this up using Traktor Pro 3. A lot of fiddling around with the Pro 3 preferences but all sorted now.

  • @D-v-8
    @D-v-8 2 роки тому +2

    Glad this vid is still up was a great help. I had a Z2 and it was so shit with vinyl. The preamp in it was awful. The levels were so low. Had to turn it up loads so then of course the feedback was unbearable. Got an s4 and it is so much better on live input and actually makes it viable to play digital and vinyl. No idea what they was thinking about with the Z2.

  • @DJKrEyVa
    @DJKrEyVa 4 роки тому +6

    ocean wisdom, i see you are a man of culture =)

    • @elliotttroy7127
      @elliotttroy7127 3 роки тому

      I guess Im kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to stream new series online ?

    • @muhammadraul6355
      @muhammadraul6355 3 роки тому

      @Elliott Troy Lately I have been using Flixzone. You can find it on google :)

  • @mrsameone
    @mrsameone 6 років тому +2

    This finally helped me into configuring a turntable without using Traktor Scratch Pro 2 so thank you man!!!

  • @endergast866
    @endergast866 5 років тому +2

    Thanks! Greetings from Italy!

  • @TheJovan7
    @TheJovan7 6 років тому +1

    Wow,​ finally a good tutorial about this, THANKS!

  • @tommy_ranger
    @tommy_ranger 9 місяців тому +1

    Hi Phat Farmer, this is exactly the setup I've been looking for, so thank you for your video it was really helpful. I already have turntables and after watching this video I'm going to invest in an S4 to get the best of both worlds.
    One question, is there a separate 'Line' input (or any other auxiliary input) to allow another external device like an iPad or a phone? So, for example, when I'm not using the S4 for mixing I could just plug my iPad in and listen to a podcast through the speakers...

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  9 місяців тому +1

      Hey Tom, you can plug in an rca to 3.5mm jack into the same input as the turntable would be, but select line on the input. Enjoy

    • @tommy_ranger
      @tommy_ranger 9 місяців тому +1

      @@PhatFarmer ah perfect, thank you mate.

  • @gustavobonvin4490
    @gustavobonvin4490 Рік тому +1

    Hey bro! I have a question I'm not sure if it was answered in the comments section.
    I want to buy a MK2 to use with a turntable, but without timecode. My ideal setup would be - turntable with real vinyl in one channel, plus 2 decks running on traktor.
    I am not sure if I could use the controller as a mixer for the turntable+real records without time code, while still using the software's decks?
    thanks in advance!

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  Рік тому +1

      Hey bro, if you followed what I did in the video, you should be able to play vinyl on the turntable and use the s4 jogs for internal tracks. Basically gives you the ability to use 2 tt's & 2 internal decks on traktor. You don't need to use timecode, but you could if you wanted to. Happy mixing

    • @gustavobonvin4490
      @gustavobonvin4490 Рік тому +1

      @@PhatFarmer nice! I will try the step by step as soon as I get my controller. Thank you so much for the return!

  • @thebighimp7765
    @thebighimp7765 7 місяців тому +1

    Can you switch a turntable channel from dvs to play a regular vinyl in the middle of your mix and switch back?

  • @cualfuneri2510
    @cualfuneri2510 5 років тому +2

    Thanks it was really useful!

  • @mixingforukraine370
    @mixingforukraine370 5 років тому +3

    omg so surprised to hear Ocean Wisdom =)) i fucking love them

  • @gibzkustomz
    @gibzkustomz 2 роки тому +2

    Will this work with a s4 mk1 controller

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  2 роки тому

      Hey Gibz, yeah this is a S4 mk1 😉

    • @gibzkustomz
      @gibzkustomz 2 роки тому +1

      Cheers bro 👌

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  2 роки тому +1

      @@gibzkustomz enjoy 🙏

  • @djeffect9965
    @djeffect9965 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the info nice one!!

  • @josevillario939
    @josevillario939 Рік тому +1

    can you use 2 channels on vinyl timecode mode and the other 2 controlled by the s4?thanks

  • @robertrossi7127
    @robertrossi7127 2 роки тому +2

    what version of the S4 is this? i dont think Mk1 has external mixing, but im not sure if Mk2-3 have or not

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  2 роки тому

      It’s a mk1. You can run an external mixer but you have to direct the audio from the headphones out and the master iirc. I used a stereo 1/4” jack to rca from the headphones for one channel and then just an rca from the master out for another, run then both into 2 separate channels on a mixer. Then select the outputs in the settings

  • @Азита-в2з
    @Азита-в2з 2 роки тому +1

    Hello . Thank you for ur useful video, i have connected every thing to computer, but still it dies not work, what should i do? The lights are off..Can u help me plz

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  2 роки тому

      Hey Azita, maybe try using the power cable for the S4. If you haven't got one, try to get hold of one. Sometimes there is not enough power coming from the usb port. Try a different port. What computer is it?

    • @Азита-в2з
      @Азита-в2з 2 роки тому +1

      @@PhatFarmer Hi, thank you for response... well source is fine.. hmmm maybe i can send you a video about my problem somewhere...

    • @Азита-в2з
      @Азита-в2з 2 роки тому +1

      I sent 2 emails video and pics

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  2 роки тому

      @@Азита-в2з now we try to get it working

  • @robertobrignani
    @robertobrignani 4 роки тому +2

    hello im using a traktor s4 mk2 and i connected pioneer plx 500 to it. timecode works perfectly but vinyls sound very low and it has a humming noise, what is the issue here if u know

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому +1

      Hey Roberto, the humming noise could be a grounding problem. Make sure you have the ground from the tt's to the s4. Also, sometimes it can happen due to the speakers being plugged into the same plug as the laptop. If you use an extension from another plug (from another room is good) to the speakers it can go away. Also make sure the tt's are connecting correctly to the headshell. Use a pencil (hb) on the ends of the contacts of the headshell then plug it into the tone arm. There's a few bits if info, hope it helps, welcome to the world of DJing... 40% DJing 60% troubleshooting gear, music, sound system, tech! Peace

    • @robertobrignani
      @robertobrignani 4 роки тому +1

      Phat Farmer alright thank you very much as soon as i get to try it ill let u know if it worked or not

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому +1

      @@robertobrignani Good luck, one or all of them should help. Enjoy

    • @robertobrignani
      @robertobrignani 4 роки тому +1

      Phat Farmer sooo i did everything and when i set the gain to the maximum it sounds okay, isn’t it a little weird that i have to set the gain to The Maximum and still Dont get The same volume as digital, do vinyl sound lower in general ? Sorry for bothering u

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому +1

      @@robertobrignani No worries bro, I know it can get very frustrating. DJing is 75% trouble shooting gear and 25% mixing & music fun!
      Having not used the pioneers it might be something to do with them. What needles are you using? Have you got the counter balance set correctly on the needles? Make sure you have the "phono" switch set, not "line" (Phono is pre-amped for turntables, Line is for cdjs which have built in pre-amps) I turn my internatl tracks down in tracktor so as not to create any distortion, but not sure why you'd need them turned all the way up. Seems a bit odd though. Is there a switch on the tt's at all?

  • @aidandoogan5109
    @aidandoogan5109 5 років тому +2

    Great vid man I am new to controllers usually vinyl only but fancy upgrading to s4 can it be used as a standalone mixer without a laptop

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  5 років тому

      I believe they have just enabled that to happen in the new Traktor Pro 3 software as a hardware firmware update for the new S4 MK3. Personally, having owned the Mk1 and used the Mk2, I wouldn't bother. I found using the S4 fun, but limiting when you want to mix vinyl externally, it feels cheap and mine lasted 2 years before buttons and faders stopped working. If you've got the time to save a little cash I would definitely check out the new Denon Prime 4 as it appears to make digital mixing that whole lot better. I haven't used one, but if I was going for new gear, I would head for that or wait to see what Pioneer comes back with. I love Traktor, but the controller hasn't impressed me. Pioneer gear has always felt solid and Denon have always been there picking up the slack. Hope that helps, good luck.

    • @aidandoogan5109
      @aidandoogan5109 5 років тому +1

      @@PhatFarmer thanks for replying man!! Good advice I may save some more as that denon controller looks pretty nice👌

  • @TheJovan7
    @TheJovan7 6 років тому +2

    How do I​ make the audio from the turntables louder, its currently a lot lower then the tracks that i play from my computer

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  6 років тому +1

      I have my gains turned down to -4.1 on the internal decks then turn the gains up on the vinyl. Also make sure you have got PHONO selected on the back of the S4.

    • @TheJovan7
      @TheJovan7 6 років тому

      Aight thanks will try that!

  • @AdamDecker
    @AdamDecker 6 років тому +2

    Nice video. How's playing 2 turntables with 2 traktor decks? Can you tell a big difference between records and digital tracks? Can you record the turntables? Thanks!

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  6 років тому +1

      Cheers, I've not actually played with tcv on this setup as I don't have TSP as it didn't come with the S4 (stupidly!) and I never got round to spending another £100 on the add on pack. However, I lent it to my DJ compadre Damn Right and he used it seamlessly. Check it out ua-cam.com/video/EtObrsem1fk/v-deo.html
      Yes you can record via Traktor whilst playing vinyl, I used it in this video ua-cam.com/video/wJeFwffuwRY/v-deo.html ! Peace

  • @xSectR
    @xSectR 2 роки тому

    I can’t get mine to work! I followed everything exactly but no sound… i can only manage to get sound out of the thru selction

  • @lucasmaluco2135
    @lucasmaluco2135 5 років тому +1

    I do have an old Tractor S2 and I need to now if i do use a clable jack to rca i will be able to use 4 speackers instead of 2 .Cos it has just 2 jack exit and 2 rca.Also i need to know about if i can use turntable and microphone too cos the option input channel it said not supported.

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  5 років тому

      Hey Lucas, you can use all 4 outputs for 4 speakers with the right cables. I can't comment on the mic as I've never used it...

    • @lucasmaluco2135
      @lucasmaluco2135 5 років тому

      @@PhatFarmer thanks.i thnk im gonna need to buy an audio interface cos it has just white and red.And will be just for one jack,should have 4 rca exit to work,sucks.

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  5 років тому +1

      @@lucasmaluco2135 Just get rca to rca and plug into some speakers, then get 1/4" jack to rca to plug into more speakers! Simple...

  • @straubmark8160
    @straubmark8160 5 років тому +2

    Can you use this kind of setup with just one turntable? So just the s4 with one tuntable on deck c or d?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  5 років тому

      Yeah you can use 1 turntable with vinyl to come out of c or d.
      I think if you want to use a TCV on 1 turntable you can change between 2 channels, but i've not done it with Traktor. Torq & Serato can do it, so I would assume you can in Traktor too.
      I think you'd have to set up some mappings to do it though (iirc). Hope that helps bro.

  • @ainogoo6720
    @ainogoo6720 4 роки тому +1

    do u find the sound of the vinyl is much more softer when played against tracks from your computer?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому +1

      Hey James N, yeah I do. I commented previously to someone else about the problem of traktor clipping internal tracks so I run the internal tracks around -6db on their individual gains. That way you can increase the volume to the vinyl to around 0 and should sound ok. Take off the limiter if you have it enabled aswell. Hope that helps

  • @99recordss
    @99recordss 3 роки тому +1

    Hey what are those control things on the corner or your decks ?

  • @HousewerkRecords
    @HousewerkRecords 2 роки тому +1

    Yo bro, stumbled across this as i'm thinking of changing to a Traktor controller. Real nice that REAL vinyl works well. Does it all work ok if you wanna mix real vinyl and digital tracks (mp3's) so, 2 live decks and 2 digital decks? Also can you record all 4 decks?
    This is a smasher for me man cause recording is a pain when you want all 4 decks going.

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  2 роки тому

      Hey bro, yes you can do exactly that, mix internal and vinyl or control vinyl for traktor, also records everything.
      Only the s4 mk1 and mk2 though, afaik the mk3 doesn’t work like this.
      It works well, but the gear is getting on a bit.

    • @HousewerkRecords
      @HousewerkRecords 2 роки тому +1

      @@PhatFarmer Bro, thanks for the reply. I’m gonna pick one of these up and connect my 1210’s.
      Always up for talking music. Hit me up. ✌🏾

  • @errorone7223
    @errorone7223 Рік тому

    sorry if thas has ben asked have looked at the comments, can this be used as a standalone mixer for two turntables without having traktor open on a laptop

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  Рік тому

      You need the laptop for the mixer, but you can use the "through" to one of the decks as a "play a record" sort of vibe with the master volume and the s4 just powered on.
      You need traktor open to be able to use the mixer.

  • @leonardoaguilar2299
    @leonardoaguilar2299 11 місяців тому

    Hi, anyone knows if this works on tracktor kontrol s3 ?

  • @evanartuso9133
    @evanartuso9133 6 років тому +2

    do the EQ's work on the turntables?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  6 років тому +1

      Hey Evan, yes the mixer literally works as expected. The effects, eqs, faders & xfader. Peace

    • @evanartuso9133
      @evanartuso9133 6 років тому +1

      That's unreal news, thanks man, respects

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  6 років тому

      No worries bro, enjoy.

  • @aleksaharovsky
    @aleksaharovsky 4 роки тому +1

    HI mate, do you get latency between what you hear on the needle and the speakers? I've been testing mine and there's a huge delay

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому +1

      Hey Aleksander, there is no delay in my setup between the vinyl and the speakers. What is your buffer/latency set to? Try setting it lower, mine is currently on 192 (256 in this YT video). If that doesn't work, it might be your specs?!

    • @aleksaharovsky
      @aleksaharovsky 4 роки тому

      @@PhatFarmer Hey mate, thanks for your reply. I've figured it out. I was using a Bose Minisoundlink (through AUX Cable). Got a new sound system setup and it's solved!

    • @aleksaharovsky
      @aleksaharovsky 4 роки тому +1

      So never use Bose for that purpose hahaha

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому

      Aleksander Saharovsky nice dude, now you can enjoy

  • @simonsandleitner2341
    @simonsandleitner2341 5 років тому

    Did everything as you did...still not working. If I set the switch on the back to "through" I get distorted audio when gain is pilled up. Otherwise Nothing. I noticed that deck A and B light blue while D and C do not. Any advice?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  5 років тому

      Possibly your turntable needs looking at. Does it work through a normal mixer?

  • @10vitesse
    @10vitesse 6 років тому

    Hey, thanks for the tuto! I am planning to try to mix with external turntables using a DDJ RR standalone. Is the software able to record the sound when using the turntables?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  6 років тому

      Hey Guessous, I have never used a DDJ RR, but I would assume there should be some settings that you could change to record with. What DVS are you using - Rekord Box, Traktor, Serato?

  • @tebbisimoX
    @tebbisimoX Рік тому +1

    Oceeeean wisssssdommmm

  • @ecohouserecords1446
    @ecohouserecords1446 4 роки тому

    Hi I only have 1 double phono input for each channel on my pionner xdj controller with a switch for phono or line so will it work with traktor and technics turntbles?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому +1

      Hey Eco House Recs, which xdj?

    • @ecohouserecords1446
      @ecohouserecords1446 4 роки тому

      @@PhatFarmer Hi its xdjr1 and I am using traktor scratch duo and technics turntables

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому

      @@ecohouserecords1446 I have not used the xdr-j1, however, I am not sure you can do it in traktor duo, I have Traktor Pro 2 assuming some stuff is locked in duo, maybe look at the newest version 3 that supports DVS (assuming you want to control traktor with time coded vinyl?) It should be a pretty similar setup. Afaik your sound card can take an external input, so don't see why it wouldn't work. Might also be worth looking at Asio4all.

  • @djadh3065
    @djadh3065 4 роки тому +1

    So if I'm using cdjs do.i st to line

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому

      DJ ADH yeah dude.

    • @djadh3065
      @djadh3065 4 роки тому

      Managed to have a faff about but only git one working other one is showing a signal but no sound stressful af

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому

      DJ ADH make sure you’ve got the inputs selected correctly on the one that’s not working. What cdjs are they?

  • @6OREN6
    @6OREN6 5 років тому +1

    whats the track that you played? so good

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  5 років тому

      Which one? ua-cam.com/video/r9KxqBiE_YQ/v-deo.html

  • @franzferdinand7581
    @franzferdinand7581 5 років тому

    i use the s4 mk3 with traktor 3 pro and i dont see any options showing in the input routing, except "not connected". mixer doesnt seem to recognise my turntables... any advice? nice tracks btw!

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  5 років тому

      Hey Franz, no idea dude, I've not used Traktor pro 3, but I can't imagine there's a lot of difference in the settings. Good luck!

    • @franzferdinand7581
      @franzferdinand7581 5 років тому

      @@PhatFarmer reinstalling asio drivers fixed it! thank you for the setup video and keep up the good work :)

  • @Asdrubale01
    @Asdrubale01 2 роки тому

    I'm going to buy one. The only thing I don't like is the dimension and the design of the jog wheels...they are so small and they are not similar to a real vinyl....but the only controllers with realistic jog wheels are the Pioneer or the Rane, but Pikneer are really too expensive and Rane don't have 4 channels

  • @dj-vg4uu
    @dj-vg4uu 5 років тому +1

    Thank u!

  • @nil4309
    @nil4309 3 роки тому

    So can you use Digital vinyls directly with this set up?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, If you have traktor tcv you can use it on channel a/b or c/d afaik. No need for a sound card, it's built into the S4

    • @nil4309
      @nil4309 3 роки тому

      @@PhatFarmer thanks man, was about to buy traktor scratch but now I think this controller and tcvs is the one!
      Nice vids

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  3 роки тому

      @@nil4309 you need the newest version of traktor for free tcv otherwise it’s £100 for the tcv upgrade (not even sure they do this anymore!) Good luck

  • @BCGT_Mikee_Dredd
    @BCGT_Mikee_Dredd Рік тому +1

    I'm confused...
    Where your S4 says Input C & D, mine says Input A & B at the rear....
    Do I just use common sense & use A & B for my 1210's & use C & D with the digital choons ?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, it should work how you think it will

    • @BCGT_Mikee_Dredd
      @BCGT_Mikee_Dredd Рік тому

      Thanks for the quick reply buddy 👍
      I can track the deck through the preference/inputs/outputs where I see audio being displayed but I can't get it to play through my speakers or assign it through A, B, C or D unless I select it as an AUX input.
      It then plays out of my speakers but there's no way of fading it out with the cross-fader or input volume slider & I can't play it through headphones with the cue button... 🤯
      I'll keep at it...

    • @BCGT_Mikee_Dredd
      @BCGT_Mikee_Dredd Рік тому +1

      @@PhatFarmer I sorted it !! 😎
      Instead of going through what you did, I had to try a different approach as I don't get the options you do in the drop-down menu on each channel in the settings.
      Do we get different models of Traktor S4's or variations ?
      As I said previously, I have A & B at the back whereas you have C & D.
      I don't have the USB switch on the back either
      I'm in the UK, not sure if that's the difference ?
      All I did was plug my turntable into the back, input B, switch it to phono then look for activity on a channel in Input Routing.
      When I found it, I had to goto Decks Layout then in Deck Flavour, select D (my personal choice for the turntable), then select Live Input & straight away I noticed the activity on Channel D on the S4.
      You can't use the cross-fader but you can use the channel slider to bring the track in.
      It obviously goes through the headphones when you press CUE on the channel also.
      There could be another way where I can use the cross-fader but that'll do me for time being 👍

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  Рік тому

      Nice, sounds like you might have a mk3 S4 (mk1 shown in the vid) a newer traktor version. You should be able to select the xfader (if enabled) with abcd next to the xfader (should be there). Well done for persevering, traktor is a strong program with lots to offer.

  • @kusher9935
    @kusher9935 6 років тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @reddeadmadness9032
    @reddeadmadness9032 5 років тому +1

    thanks dude

  • @harveybeach9746
    @harveybeach9746 4 роки тому +1

    is it possible to play one track on the turntable on one channel and another on the actual traktor (mp3 wavs ect)

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому +1

      Hey Harvey Beach, yeah bro, essentially you have 4 decks. 2 being the internal tracks and 2 being external vinyl. So c&d are the vinyl and a&b are internal decks. Mix however you want. You can also use TCV to control the internal decks of traktor with the turntables.

    • @harveybeach9746
      @harveybeach9746 4 роки тому

      @@PhatFarmer thanks dude appreciate the help great video btw, what is a TCV?

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому

      @Harvey Beach tcv = time coded vinyl ( the special vinyl you use to control the tracks of serato, traktor, recordbox, etc). With the setup in the video you can use regular vinyl or the time coded traktor vinyl and also internal decks. Hope that helps dude

  • @Aitchy_
    @Aitchy_ 2 роки тому

    didnt work for me.. had all the same settings ): can only get a signal with thru instead of usb

  • @rjbirdy2k
    @rjbirdy2k 6 років тому

    What is the name of those turntables please

  • @GUGA1749
    @GUGA1749 5 років тому

    la Mugre que tiene esa S4 no puede mas.

  • @Red-gl2cb
    @Red-gl2cb 5 років тому

    bit dusty lol

    • @robdela3632
      @robdela3632 4 роки тому +2

      Looks like he went to burning man

    • @PhatFarmer
      @PhatFarmer  4 роки тому +1

      It's what happens when you play at clubs & festivals... tasty dust nom noms....

  • @SonicFortress
    @SonicFortress 5 років тому

    That a mk1,this information is obsolete

    • @endergast866
      @endergast866 5 років тому +2

      no, you can do it also on the mk2