Ai certainly takes the passion out of music. There's no doubt. But that's where your training comes in. I've found Suno to be a highly useful tool for generating ideas for beats and vocal arrangements. I suppose my point is that your music will stand out from all the garbage that lazy shits are putting out via Suno. Ai isn't going away. We may as well perfect it.
@@Lupercalumnot really. A lot of songs are ripoffs, but still require talent to play and are driven by real emotions. This is just sampling and rearranging sounds that others created.
You're naive if that's what you think. You may want to dig a little deeper and learn what's been happening with Ai going after its own 'copywrites"...kinda like the snake eating its own tail!🤣
I know the pain - but as @mjamison2802 already mentioned, there are new doors (cf. my comment). Head up, you are not alone with the pain, but we have to see it as an opportunity rather than an obstacle.
nah youre missing the huge silver lining! That would be like slaves complaining that machines now pick cotton for them, or more apt: a ho whose pimo got arrested. You are FREE! Now you can do something less demeaning.
Suno is fun. Interesting note, since it doesn’t seem like anyone has mentioned this yet: Have written songs in different languages and they flow just fine. * If you blend two languages, sometimes it might mispronounce some of the words in either language. * But if it’s the same language throughout the song, the pronunciation is generally accurate and consistent.
No sugar coating ,straight to point..Feeling extremly sad and tragic for those who have just started their music career.Thank God ,we lived in a era and lucky to share our music to the public before Suno.
Legit just finished my first soundtrack contract a few months ago. Might sound arrogant, but I always wanted to create an OST that some kid somewhere would love enough to remember 30 years later as an adult, same as I remember the songs from my fav games as a kid. I sometimes wonder how I'd feel if I looked up my formative childhood tunes today and found they were composed not by Alexander Brandon or Junichi Masuda, but by a computer algorithm. Would I feel the same nostalgia for them even knowing this? Or would I retroactively become more interested in songs composed by humans instead? Shower thoughts.
I am not interest in consuming IA music or books. The value is a human producing it, that share his experience. IA can't have human's experiences. Of course you will need talent. The basic comercial music or those not talented musicians made by a lot of marketing are the things that IA will replace for sure.
@JustIsTime890 but there is a need for plenty of music for daily user like jingles, adds, YT videos, workplace presentation intros... etc. etc. no need for artistic expression there, as none is needed in children's rhymes - and random people need music which is not copyrighted for such uses - not all is always is only about artistic vanity, much is just about free usability
@@Chociewitka yes, you are rigth, for that type of music where you don't need quality maybe IA is ok. But I think there is a misconception that IA is free and no copyrigthed, and you own the content you create with it. You can see there are discutions about it and even copyrigths claims. So if you are doing content with AI and using it for your business, you can have a surprise later. With Suno in fact, if you use the free version, Suno consider itself the owner of the songs. If you have a plan you pay, they will grant you a commercial use licence. The discution is open and there are a lot of law holes there.
@JustIsTime890 I myself do not need it commercially, just to try out how my lyrics work for any melody, eg. for my purposes that is enough for now, but when I need it few years (I a writing a free online story which has some songs sung in it, and it would be nice ultimately to have some track links included) there might be an option to buy a certain song for oneself exclusively - will probably happen
It actually sounds more human than the large majority of popular music since so much of today's popular music uses autotune and much of the use of autotune is heavily used and not used for just minor pitch corrections but purposely used for the entire vocals.
My issue with Suno is the background noise. If you listen to the song at 11:34, you can hear this weird springy, echoing sound that shows up in nearly all the songs I create. The stems still leave something to be desired as the vocals still track on the instrumental and vice versa. It's still a great program, though.
There’s a strange hype going on, and because of this, influencers are acting like they’re deaf. Suno, on the other hand, is promoting the beta-stage V4, which isn’t even ready yet. For the money I paid, I’m getting nothing but garbage. That annoying background with its cicada-like chirping has made me lose interest in Suno. I won’t be renewing my subscription until this issue is resolved.
I was able to get it out of one song, but it's virtually embedded in every output. Suno called it a shimmer and are supposedly working on a fix. I'm hoping they get on that soon, cause pretty much nothing is usable.
As a Suno user, I feel V4 has better sound quality over V3.5, but V3.5 is still more consistent in speech recognition when creating personas. It's improving though. Great video!
I have so much music that I shelved because my OCD wouldn’t let me make progress on it. Seeing how well it did with your bass line makes me feel like I can actually finish some of my old music at last.
Real Feedback on Suno: Using Suno feels like a love-hate relationship. Despite the challenges, I’m committed to continuing with it. I’ve created over 7,600 songs on the platform, but only about 30 are what I’d consider good. I write all my own lyrics and song structures, and just use Suno for the music and vocals. The features Suno offers sound amazing in theory but often fall into a “work or not work” scenario. For example: • Replace Section Feature: When it works, it’s a lifesaver-seamlessly replacing sections with ease. However, when it doesn’t, it becomes frustrating. Sometimes it tries to replace a section I didn’t select, or worse, it stops working altogether, leaving the song “unrescuable.” • Remaster Option: The idea of remastering older songs with updated capabilities is fantastic. Unfortunately, I’ve struggled to get it to work properly. It only remasters a random portion of the song, usually around a minute, instead of the entire track. • Persona Feature: This concept is exciting-creating new songs using a consistent voice style. But in practice, it falls short. Instead of generating something fresh, it often just repeats the song used to create the persona or produces what feels like a “cover” of the original with updated lyrics. It doesn’t truly create a brand-new song with the same voice type. Finally, Customer Service is lacking. The support is slow and often unhelpful, leaving many issues unresolved. Despite these frustrations, I appreciate the potential of Suno. When the features work as intended, they can produce amazing results. I hope the platform continues to improve, as it has so much promise for creators like me.
@@nicholas6870 Yeah, those major stars write ALL their own words and of course tell the drummer what to play, and the bassist, oh and the rhythm and lead guitarist.....the STARS CREATE EVERY NOTE!!! and their vocals are definitely NOT essentially remade by multimillion dollar machines in "studios" at all! you are SO RIGHT!
I don't understand why none of these v4 review videos are mentioning the AWFUL artifacting sound in every song? There's tons of people complaining on reddit, it completely ruins most songs. I also noticed no one is calling this out on yt comments? I just don't get it? You can even hear it on the songs you shared, like at 3:25 it's very noticable.
As a musician I think this will pretty much kill the sync industry in 2025 unless something happens in the lawsuits the labels have going currently. I will say I did catch some inspiration listening to some of the songs, might be a good way to get a production going. People will still gravitate towards artists, but I do feel like music doesn’t dominate pop culture like it used to. Idk if this will further that trend. You can’t stop progress, but it still is a bit sad seeing an entire art form get reduced to a prompt and button.
No its not sad.. there is enough people out there that have genius music ideas, dont have time or the ability to play instruments.. but can now write great songs to build something on.. For people that can play a instrument, you can use it in very interesting ways.. And we all could know that lawsuits would take place.. but not to protect musicians.. solely to protect money.. No judge can stop progression, i can learn from a singer.. and even copy his style and sound. i can sound exactly the same as well.. .. so can AI (which is created by humans)... i can sample any bass drum from any track out there.. i can sample any bass note out there.. i can sample any instrument out there and use it to compose a track.. so can AI..
@@flexprofits Suno will be stopped and shutdown. It is basically the 2024 version of Napster in the late 90s/early 2000s. The progression of things then was free artist music for everyone. Nope. Didn't happen (at least not in that way).
Suno won't make musicians go away anymore than DALL-E made artists go away. It's a tool. For the unskilled, it opens doors to creativity by supply skills they don't have. For the experts, it can serve as sounding board for ideas and inspiration. We'll be fine :)
The audio quality of the vocals is incredible with this update. They were already good in V3 with stuff like rock/pop, but now it completely nails it of basically all styles. Truly wild
While it’s definitely improved, I can still tell pretty much immediately that it’s AI generated and it doesn’t sound that great. I don’t think you’d be able to get away with putting something like this on Spotify and having nobody notice. As a musician while I think these tools are great, I’m also Pretty annoyed that they’re not targeting producers and songwriters more.
It has serious background noise issues (such as cicada sounds, laser effects, and bird chirping). I can even hear this noise in your video; didn't you notice it?
Suno can only produce music for which the software has been trained. And this is not today's music, but music that has been around for a long time. In addition, Suno will increasingly be trained by its own ai generated music in the future, i.e. it will learn from itself. This means that ai software like Suno can never create something really new and creative. I think we can counter AI-generated music with fresh, new ideas for music composition and arrangement!
I’m disappointed that you didn’t point out any of the flaws and problems that were ADDED by the new V4. Suno has even acknowledged some of them publicly and promised it’s working on them. I am sure they are, but I’m surprised you didn’t come across them. It took me just 2-3 hours of playing with it. Anyway, here’s to hoping V4 gets fixed soon. Nothing more frustrating than generating a song you like, only to suddenly have “shimmering” noises ruin it. Oh, and the “remastering” is more misses than hits so far, but will be great to have if fixed.
I didn't know about those problems. I played with it for a couple days and didn't have any of those issues. Someone else commented on the shimmering noise, I haven't heard that, but it definitely sounds frustrating
@@t2rx7crx1 I saw the same, thanks! I haven’t tried it yet, but, still, this means there is a problem. I think Suno will fix this, and other reported problems, but I am surprised they released the much awaited V4 in such poor shape. I remain a subscriber, however.
i just made a heavy metal song , Indian classical song , classical arabic song and classical opera and im terrified i cant distinguish between AI and Human unless i pay attention in depth to listen for clues
Uploading your own music into it is great. It's like having virtual great session musicians..I do like the quality of the instrumentation in Udio better....they both have pros and cons.
v4 is a dumpster fire. There's a LOT of problems, 90% of the songs it makes have no emotion anymore, if you take a song and do a cover it looses all the emotion it had. The vocals are cleaner but they are do have issues with emotion. I got better results on 3.5 It's a decent step forward but they need to fix a lot of issues it brought in, including the insane Shimmer effect you get on everything now.
Nice video! Suno really needed those vocals fixed. Sounds really cool. Excellent video! It is very informative, fun to watch, and it's a delight to listen. Thanks.
Amazing overview thank you! It’s incredible and terrifying in equal measure. As a wannabe musician with little talent I’m pretty stoked for my new AI punk band project!!
1:40 The most soulless polished sounding blues i've ever heared in my life. Comparable it to a vectorized Mona Lisa painting, with many people pointing to it and saying how beautiful the new vectorized picture is.
The proof of the pudding would be if you could reliably tell an AI from a human creation, not knowing beforehand, of course. That would take randomized double blind studies. I wouldn't put my money on people being able to tell reliably: most people can't tell Coke from Pepsi, apparently...which I find incredible, but that's the data!
Wow, this is amazing! Suno v4’s music sounds so real, it’s hard to believe it’s AI. It’s crazy how far this technology has come- I am actually mind-blown! insane!!!!
Lol. Stream of 1s and 2s? Even AI doesn't know what binary is. I immediately went to ChatGPT for lyrics and fed them to Suno and got an amazing blues fusion track with a funk didgeridoo. Slapped hard. Thanks for this.
I use Suno and it still has a lot of limitations the moment you really start wanting to produce music in a certain way. Suno also loves the female voice and with certain lyrics Suno thinks you want a duet and it's hard to get rid of that female voice. I write my own lyrics and I noticed most don't and that's real easy to spot.
Many of the songs came out like it’s from post 2000 sounding vocal, also would be fantastic if the AI is better at fine tuning period vocabularies to fit the era more correctly. Anyhow it’s still fun to roll the dice for unexpected gems
With all my criticism to AI created music, I have to agree that it can sometimes create an amazing tune, or give at least an idea to your further song creation - I already played with it too. And yes - your last funk rock song was among those, which can amaze! It reminded me Mark Ronson - Uptown Funk.
Impressive. Question on copyright: * what are the limits on using text written by others? (like your economic whitepaper vs. a sonnet by Shakespeare -- will Suno always change the text to the unrecognizable? Is it still ok? Perhaps different depending on whether the origin was "art" or not?) * what are the rules bout *using* the generated music/songs? Is it ok to use it in youtube videos, etc.? Does that require a paid subscription?
Except for live music, this is part of the future of personal music that. More vibes, more choices where everyone can exercise their preferences with respect as to what they want to hear. The voices need more variety. The tunes you are demonstrating are cool. Austin I don't like suffering (listening) to what other people create on these music AI reviews but this stuff is cool.
I can write funny stuff that rhymes,but that's it. I give my lyrics to Suno,and prompt in the genre,how I want the vibe etc. And it does the rest. Having lots of fun with it :)
Suno vocalists are very similar and you get a lot of "auto tune" sounding stuff. V4 definitely has some things it needs to iron out. They finally started fixing the "shimmer" effect that was ruining songs, but it's still there at times. But I do enjoy using Suno a lot. I hope it improves.
It's a new way of maybe not creating music but of listening to music.Because the effort is not higher than walking to a shop and buying a CD or searching for a playlist on Spotify. And the result is often very surprising. Sometimes it's a good surprise, sometimes a bad one ;)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. You are pretty good at it and you seem like a nice person. So, after you make one of these song of your own Ideas could you spend some time on teaching how to take that music and turn it into a music video? Turning things into video seems like that will be what everyone wants these so visual days.
Be sure to watch the Top music Attorney UA-cam channel before getting serious in using Suno on anything commercial . Especially do not load your music into Suno. The attorney breaks down their extraordinarily vague and self serving TOS.
Ive been using Suno for a UA-cam channel experiment I'm working on. To me everything SOUNDS ok. But the lyrics generated are a bit "Cat in the Hat" Dr. Seuss or the flipside of that it'll use complicated strange words just to get the rhyme. One thing I found funny to do is grab the lyrics for a popular song and paste it into Suno but ask for a different genre. I found Bon Jovi's "Living on a Prayer" worked REALLY well sumg by southern gospel choir. (Songs by Slayer, not so much!). 😂
I can still tell on the vocals but that is a huge, improvement. The lyrics game however has been stepped up to Absolute Glory from what I've just heard. It's, close, way, too, close.
You didnt mention that it does not allow you make a persona of your own voice. Thats why i bought it and nowhere is written that you cannot choose your uploads as persona
Is there an AI that i can feed it a link to a UA-cam music video and have it create something sounding similar but not enough to get copyright restricted?
i've got old poor quality tape recordings from the 90s. Any way to 'restore' those songs with Suno as if they were recorded in a studio, but keeping the vocals and the music same as source?
I'm looking for help with my idea. I would like to create a radio station that plays only ai generated songs as long as it's an human writer. It would be an eclectic station like me meaning the station is not fixed upon one genre of music. 😊
No idea what I made wrong, but with my prompts it makes everything else but what I expect. I used this one "club house, hard beats, strong bass, energetic" and it was not even close to what I expected/want.
Use tags throughout your songs like this to have more dynamics and emphasize the styles: [Verse 1: Club House, Energetic] song lyrics [Verse 2: Add Strong Bass] more lyrics
@@jasonshere I tried. It´s better but still far away from what I want. I also tried at Udio. The result comes a bit closer to my idea. I guess the music from both is more for the mass then for an individual taste. Or I have to create some hundred songs to get one I like.
@@cnxexpat1862 I typically get about 1-2 "good" songs from 10 free ones I generate with Suno, and 1-2 "okay" songs. - They're all improving quickly though. I saved/liked about 150 of my 600+ songs. Basically we can just prepare the lyrics and formatting well, try different styles tags, and then roll the dice to see what comes out the other end. The randomness is part of the fun for me, but it can be disappointing if you spend your 10 generations or a couple of hours without getting something that matches what you're looking for.
I believe most vocalists would most value an ai offering that improves their vocal quality/tone, etc. without making them sound like someone else, i.e. an ai voice that's great, but not them any longer. What ai offering can do that? If there is one, "average" singers would want it big time. Thanks for what you do, new subscriber here.
With Synapticalzombie, every artificially intelligent non-musician can enter their artificially intelligent song lyrics, for example: “Ou ou ou, Synypsenzombie is sooo great”, which is then fitted into “winning” chord sequences (I-vi-ii-V) and every artificially intelligent non-musician is also an artist. It may not have created anything new, like the "right-handed guitarist with six thumbs" Jimi Hendrix (according to Synapticalzombie), but at least the world has a new toy with which every 4-year-old kindergartener can become an artist.
Don't you hear some weird artifacts in the background of v4 music? I've been testing it out for some days now and keep listening to the same noise, I can't describe it better than a "grind" sound.
I'm ngl, I actually used Suno as inspiration for my debut Single "SYNESTHESIA", originally I had asked Chatgpt for a chord progression then a future house arp progression and took those inputs and put em into Suno then used the finished results as a reference and built my entire track around it then added in an acapella from Cymatics and sure enough that song got signed to a record label within days! AI is scary yet very useful
I'm subscribed to Udio, but the lyrics are getting stale. I so badly would love to see a comparison video with Suno v4. The stem bleed in Udio is pretty bad, which hurts in post. Unfortunately Suno doesn't have a trial with v4. Great video. Thanks for it all. 💯
So glad i studied at New England Conservatory of Music for this.
Best response!
This just means you have to work harder. Make great things and there will be room for you in our ears.
Ai certainly takes the passion out of music. There's no doubt. But that's where your training comes in. I've found Suno to be a highly useful tool for generating ideas for beats and vocal arrangements. I suppose my point is that your music will stand out from all the garbage that lazy shits are putting out via Suno. Ai isn't going away. We may as well perfect it.
can i use the music that i make with this sit in omy tik tok videos
You can maybe use your talent and your skills with Suno to create amazing songs faster and better than ever !
I'm heavily demoralized and giddy at the same time. It's crazy how good instrumentals are.
can i use the music that i make with this sit in omy tik tok videos
3 songs in and the ai did a random 1 minute bluegrass solo that blew me away
Shameless plug: if you enjoy metal instrumentals check out my channel 👍
So worth it to subscribe to Suno for any musicians/producers. For literally for a hundred bucks a year you can use these tools
For sure. The pricing is way better than a lot of ai tools these days, for crazy quality
@@futurepedia_io it needs an unlimited plan tho which they do not offer. I go through 4k credits in a single day it's way too expensive
Pretty sure you won't own anything you create there though.
@@MindBodySoulOk if you pay for a subscription then you own it for commercial use even.
Black Friday deal had the annual subscription 20% off for like $80
The sad ai song is a straight banger
Its basically a rip off of any famous blues track. No originality
@@sfg206 So... just like most ''real'' music
@@Lupercalumnot really. A lot of songs are ripoffs, but still require talent to play and are driven by real emotions. This is just sampling and rearranging sounds that others created.
I think your tutorials are the best out there. Really grateful for your work.
As a content creator, this is wonderful for using music in your videos without getting a copyright strike on UA-cam
LOL. ua-cam.com/video/LrkAORPiaEA/v-deo.html
excellent point
this comment aged like milk, have you not seen the copyright strikes for anyone making original music?
You're naive if that's what you think. You may want to dig a little deeper and learn what's been happening with Ai going after its own
'copywrites"...kinda like the snake eating its own tail!🤣
As a musician, I must say this hurts.
Facts, but it does open new doors of possibilities 😁
I know the pain - but as @mjamison2802 already mentioned, there are new doors (cf. my comment). Head up, you are not alone with the pain, but we have to see it as an opportunity rather than an obstacle.
nah youre missing the huge silver lining! That would be like slaves complaining that machines now pick cotton for them, or more apt: a ho whose pimo got arrested. You are FREE! Now you can do something less demeaning.
A musician? tf does that mean, make magic or sumthin'? I'm not a musician, I make music, I act, and that's not all I do, I'm a TV star, too... 🤣
It's up to us how much it hurts; we have to adapt and use it or try to provide something that it still can't.
Suno is fun. Interesting note, since it doesn’t seem like anyone has mentioned this yet:
Have written songs in different languages and they flow just fine.
* If you blend two languages, sometimes it might mispronounce some of the words in either language.
* But if it’s the same language throughout the song, the pronunciation is generally accurate and consistent.
No sugar coating ,straight to point..Feeling extremly sad and tragic for those who have just started their music career.Thank God ,we lived in a era and lucky to share our music to the public before Suno.
Legit just finished my first soundtrack contract a few months ago. Might sound arrogant, but I always wanted to create an OST that some kid somewhere would love enough to remember 30 years later as an adult, same as I remember the songs from my fav games as a kid.
I sometimes wonder how I'd feel if I looked up my formative childhood tunes today and found they were composed not by Alexander Brandon or Junichi Masuda, but by a computer algorithm. Would I feel the same nostalgia for them even knowing this? Or would I retroactively become more interested in songs composed by humans instead? Shower thoughts.
I am not interest in consuming IA music or books. The value is a human producing it, that share his experience. IA can't have human's experiences. Of course you will need talent. The basic comercial music or those not talented musicians made by a lot of marketing are the things that IA will replace for sure.
@JustIsTime890 but there is a need for plenty of music for daily user like jingles, adds, YT videos, workplace presentation intros... etc. etc. no need for artistic expression there, as none is needed in children's rhymes - and random people need music which is not copyrighted for such uses - not all is always is only about artistic vanity, much is just about free usability
@@Chociewitka yes, you are rigth, for that type of music where you don't need quality maybe IA is ok. But I think there is a misconception that IA is free and no copyrigthed, and you own the content you create with it.
You can see there are discutions about it and even copyrigths claims. So if you are doing content with AI and using it for your business, you can have a surprise later.
With Suno in fact, if you use the free version, Suno consider itself the owner of the songs. If you have a plan you pay, they will grant you a commercial use licence.
The discution is open and there are a lot of law holes there.
@JustIsTime890 I myself do not need it commercially, just to try out how my lyrics work for any melody, eg. for my purposes that is enough for now, but when I need it few years (I a writing a free online story which has some songs sung in it, and it would be nice ultimately to have some track links included) there might be an option to buy a certain song for oneself exclusively - will probably happen
So impressed at how well AI emulates the sad state of music.
It actually sounds more human than the large majority of popular music since so much of today's popular music uses autotune and much of the use of autotune is heavily used and not used for just minor pitch corrections but purposely used for the entire vocals.
The future is now, Old Man.
@@stompysnake8233 there's no accounting for taste.
Your bass line was cool.
My issue with Suno is the background noise. If you listen to the song at 11:34, you can hear this weird springy, echoing sound that shows up in nearly all the songs I create. The stems still leave something to be desired as the vocals still track on the instrumental and vice versa. It's still a great program, though.
There’s a strange hype going on, and because of this, influencers are acting like they’re deaf. Suno, on the other hand, is promoting the beta-stage V4, which isn’t even ready yet. For the money I paid, I’m getting nothing but garbage. That annoying background with its cicada-like chirping has made me lose interest in Suno. I won’t be renewing my subscription until this issue is resolved.
I was able to get it out of one song, but it's virtually embedded in every output. Suno called it a shimmer and are supposedly working on a fix. I'm hoping they get on that soon, cause pretty much nothing is usable.
I can’t hear anything out of the ordinary, what are y’all talking about?
@@Johnnyboi-mb4is some poeple can't hear all notes, you might be one of those people, basically not an artistic ear or you just need an ear check up
@ I suppose so huh
As a Suno user, I feel V4 has better sound quality over V3.5, but V3.5 is still more consistent in speech recognition when creating personas. It's improving though. Great video!
I have so much music that I shelved because my OCD wouldn’t let me make progress on it. Seeing how well it did with your bass line makes me feel like I can actually finish some of my old music at last.
v3.5 is sometimes better than v4
Yeah i tried it. 3.5 sound better to me for style of music l like.
It is better but v4 despite its garbage shimmers has better opening and vocals.
Real Feedback on Suno:
Using Suno feels like a love-hate relationship. Despite the challenges, I’m committed to continuing with it. I’ve created over 7,600 songs on the platform, but only about 30 are what I’d consider good. I write all my own lyrics and song structures, and just use Suno for the music and vocals.
The features Suno offers sound amazing in theory but often fall into a “work or not work” scenario. For example:
• Replace Section Feature: When it works, it’s a lifesaver-seamlessly replacing sections with ease. However, when it doesn’t, it becomes frustrating. Sometimes it tries to replace a section I didn’t select, or worse, it stops working altogether, leaving the song “unrescuable.”
• Remaster Option: The idea of remastering older songs with updated capabilities is fantastic. Unfortunately, I’ve struggled to get it to work properly. It only remasters a random portion of the song, usually around a minute, instead of the entire track.
• Persona Feature: This concept is exciting-creating new songs using a consistent voice style. But in practice, it falls short. Instead of generating something fresh, it often just repeats the song used to create the persona or produces what feels like a “cover” of the original with updated lyrics. It doesn’t truly create a brand-new song with the same voice type.
Finally, Customer Service is lacking. The support is slow and often unhelpful, leaving many issues unresolved.
Despite these frustrations, I appreciate the potential of Suno. When the features work as intended, they can produce amazing results. I hope the platform continues to improve, as it has so much promise for creators like me.
Replace section has no undo function ?
"creator"
@@nicholas6870 Yeah, those major stars write ALL their own words and of course tell the drummer what to play, and the bassist, oh and the rhythm and lead guitarist.....the STARS CREATE EVERY NOTE!!! and their vocals are definitely NOT essentially remade by multimillion dollar machines in "studios" at all! you are SO RIGHT!
Why do you let AI create the music? Why do you not actually create the music yourself?
Why do you let AI create the music? Why do you not actually create the music yourself?
Futurepedia, your content is awesome.
Thanks for the video! I use Suno for my vids and didn't even realize it had all those other options. Liked and Subscribed!
I don't understand why none of these v4 review videos are mentioning the AWFUL artifacting sound in every song? There's tons of people complaining on reddit, it completely ruins most songs. I also noticed no one is calling this out on yt comments? I just don't get it? You can even hear it on the songs you shared, like at 3:25 it's very noticable.
That's why I use Udio ;)
Damn, that's still there? That's why i haven't messed with it in 6 months..and still there...
@@Sascha-wj9qz I might have to check that out soon!
Much more evidence at 5:50
YES ITS TERRIBLE!!
I'm glad I stumbled across your video, big thumbs up! Needless to say I'll be checking out Suno! What a creative and incredible sounding tool.
This is insane!
I hate the times that we live in!
Really like seeing you lovin it !
As a musician I think this will pretty much kill the sync industry in 2025 unless something happens in the lawsuits the labels have going currently. I will say I did catch some inspiration listening to some of the songs, might be a good way to get a production going.
People will still gravitate towards artists, but I do feel like music doesn’t dominate pop culture like it used to. Idk if this will further that trend. You can’t stop progress, but it still is a bit sad seeing an entire art form get reduced to a prompt and button.
It's the natural progression of things. Those lawsuits won't do a thing.
Its a good inspiration tools if you're a musician, non musician will just over use it and run it to the ground.
No its not sad.. there is enough people out there that have genius music ideas, dont have time or the ability to play instruments.. but can now write great songs to build something on.. For people that can play a instrument, you can use it in very interesting ways..
And we all could know that lawsuits would take place.. but not to protect musicians.. solely to protect money..
No judge can stop progression, i can learn from a singer.. and even copy his style and sound. i can sound exactly the same as well.. .. so can AI (which is created by humans)... i can sample any bass drum from any track out there.. i can sample any bass note out there.. i can sample any instrument out there and use it to compose a track.. so can AI..
@@flexprofits Suno will be stopped and shutdown. It is basically the 2024 version of Napster in the late 90s/early 2000s. The progression of things then was free artist music for everyone. Nope. Didn't happen (at least not in that way).
Suno won't make musicians go away anymore than DALL-E made artists go away. It's a tool. For the unskilled, it opens doors to creativity by supply skills they don't have. For the experts, it can serve as sounding board for ideas and inspiration. We'll be fine :)
The audio quality of the vocals is incredible with this update. They were already good in V3 with stuff like rock/pop, but now it completely nails it of basically all styles. Truly wild
While it’s definitely improved, I can still tell pretty much immediately that it’s AI generated and it doesn’t sound that great. I don’t think you’d be able to get away with putting something like this on Spotify and having nobody notice. As a musician while I think these tools are great, I’m also Pretty annoyed that they’re not targeting producers and songwriters more.
It has serious background noise issues (such as cicada sounds, laser effects, and bird chirping). I can even hear this noise in your video; didn't you notice it?
TANX FOR VIDEO ♥
I LOVE SO MUCH Suno !
Suno can only produce music for which the software has been trained. And this is not today's music, but music that has been around for a long time. In addition, Suno will increasingly be trained by its own ai generated music in the future, i.e. it will learn from itself. This means that ai software like Suno can never create something really new and creative. I think we can counter AI-generated music with fresh, new ideas for music composition and arrangement!
You also train these models by uploading your own media, so your not far off.
There’s no way AI companies aren’t including encrypted watermarking on the sly so the training model knows what not to pay attention to.
So amazing. I was using ILove Song but now discovering this Suno i got WOWWW. FROM BRAZIL. TY SO MUCH
I’m disappointed that you didn’t point out any of the flaws and problems that were ADDED by the new V4. Suno has even acknowledged some of them publicly and promised it’s working on them. I am sure they are, but I’m surprised you didn’t come across them. It took me just 2-3 hours of playing with it. Anyway, here’s to hoping V4 gets fixed soon. Nothing more frustrating than generating a song you like, only to suddenly have “shimmering” noises ruin it. Oh, and the “remastering” is more misses than hits so far, but will be great to have if fixed.
I didn't know about those problems. I played with it for a couple days and didn't have any of those issues. Someone else commented on the shimmering noise, I haven't heard that, but it definitely sounds frustrating
I heard the fix, for now, is to stem the voice and music tracks separately in wave format and then recombine them with third-party software.
@@t2rx7crx1 I saw the same, thanks! I haven’t tried it yet, but, still, this means there is a problem. I think Suno will fix this, and other reported problems, but I am surprised they released the much awaited V4 in such poor shape. I remain a subscriber, however.
I’ve been using it for a day, what kinda problems are there?
Have been using it lately, and have to say it is amazing the quality and how quickly it is made.
Wow Briliant Review MY friend !! especial recreating your original tracks.... its a real Miracle on the Software Scene !! Best Wishes RodGold :)
i just made a heavy metal song , Indian classical song , classical arabic song and classical opera and im terrified i cant distinguish between AI and Human unless i pay attention in depth to listen for clues
wow that song at 2 mins was amazing!
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Uploading your own music into it is great. It's like having virtual great session musicians..I do like the quality of the instrumentation in Udio better....they both have pros and cons.
v4 is a dumpster fire. There's a LOT of problems, 90% of the songs it makes have no emotion anymore, if you take a song and do a cover it looses all the emotion it had.
The vocals are cleaner but they are do have issues with emotion. I got better results on 3.5
It's a decent step forward but they need to fix a lot of issues it brought in, including the insane Shimmer effect you get on everything now.
True statement, good thing it's only the beginning, I imagine it's only going to get better though.
@@TheLoneBuck once they sort out the issues, its going to be upstoppable.
Nice video! Suno really needed those vocals fixed. Sounds really cool. Excellent video! It is very informative, fun to watch, and it's a delight to listen. Thanks.
You are very cool! Love your videos and your website! Subscribed !
Amazing overview thank you! It’s incredible and terrifying in equal measure. As a wannabe musician with little talent I’m pretty stoked for my new AI punk band project!!
Wow, that first sad AI blues lyrics is amazing.
You are simply awesome Big brother.
wow this is impressive, my next batch of ideas and songs will definitely take this route :)
1:40 The most soulless polished sounding blues i've ever heared in my life. Comparable it to a vectorized Mona Lisa painting, with many people pointing to it and saying how beautiful the new vectorized picture is.
The proof of the pudding would be if you could reliably tell an AI from a human creation, not knowing beforehand, of course. That would take randomized double blind studies. I wouldn't put my money on people being able to tell reliably: most people can't tell Coke from Pepsi, apparently...which I find incredible, but that's the data!
8 :15 It didn't work out that way from Udio.... there were 30 attempts, but Suno gives it out the first time!
I really like this website. I'm going to start uploading my songs to my UA-cam, at least until I can take vocal lessons and sing myself
Wow, this is amazing! Suno v4’s music sounds so real, it’s hard to believe it’s AI. It’s crazy how far this technology has come- I am actually mind-blown! insane!!!!
The first one gave literal jaw drop, astounding quality!
Lol. Stream of 1s and 2s? Even AI doesn't know what binary is. I immediately went to ChatGPT for lyrics and fed them to Suno and got an amazing blues fusion track with a funk didgeridoo. Slapped hard. Thanks for this.
I use Suno and it still has a lot of limitations the moment you really start wanting to produce music in a certain way. Suno also loves the female voice and with certain lyrics Suno thinks you want a duet and it's hard to get rid of that female voice. I write my own lyrics and I noticed most don't and that's real easy to spot.
Many of the songs came out like it’s from post 2000 sounding vocal, also would be fantastic if the AI is better at fine tuning period vocabularies to fit the era more correctly. Anyhow it’s still fun to roll the dice for unexpected gems
It has hardly begun yet...
This is the best video tutorial online!
With all my criticism to AI created music, I have to agree that it can sometimes create an amazing tune, or give at least an idea to your further song creation - I already played with it too. And yes - your last funk rock song was among those, which can amaze! It reminded me Mark Ronson - Uptown Funk.
I am blown away at how good these are.
Amazing! Very versatile ai it is.
Wow I loved that song. The vocals, music and the lyrics were bang on.
Impressive. Question on copyright:
* what are the limits on using text written by others? (like your economic whitepaper vs. a sonnet by Shakespeare -- will Suno always change the text to the unrecognizable? Is it still ok? Perhaps different depending on whether the origin was "art" or not?)
* what are the rules bout *using* the generated music/songs? Is it ok to use it in youtube videos, etc.? Does that require a paid subscription?
Except for live music, this is part of the future of personal music that. More vibes, more choices where everyone can exercise their preferences with respect as to what they want to hear. The voices need more variety. The tunes you are demonstrating are cool. Austin I don't like suffering (listening) to what other people create on these music AI reviews but this stuff is cool.
I can write funny stuff that rhymes,but that's it. I give my lyrics to Suno,and prompt in the genre,how I want the vibe etc. And it does the rest. Having lots of fun with it :)
Suno vocalists are very similar and you get a lot of "auto tune" sounding stuff. V4 definitely has some things it needs to iron out. They finally started fixing the "shimmer" effect that was ruining songs, but it's still there at times. But I do enjoy using Suno a lot. I hope it improves.
My jaw is literally on the floor
It's a new way of maybe not creating music but of listening to music.Because the effort is not higher than walking to a shop and buying a CD or searching for a playlist on Spotify. And the result is often very surprising. Sometimes it's a good surprise, sometimes a bad one ;)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. You are pretty good at it and you seem like a nice person. So, after you make one of these song of your own Ideas could you spend some time on teaching how to take that music and turn it into a music video? Turning things into video seems like that will be what everyone wants these so visual days.
I am in my late 60s and I no longer can do much in my life and suno has help me get my feelings out again
13:26 The craziest thing about this video is your skills slappin dat bass mah man; that was one helluva groovy lick!
Be sure to watch the Top music Attorney UA-cam channel before getting serious in using Suno on anything commercial . Especially do not load your music into Suno. The attorney breaks down their extraordinarily vague and self serving TOS.
I would love to see "Binary Blues" uploaded to UA-cam (Music) and see what kind of songs will be offered as similar songs
Ive been using Suno for a UA-cam channel experiment I'm working on. To me everything SOUNDS ok. But the lyrics generated are a bit "Cat in the Hat" Dr. Seuss or the flipside of that it'll use complicated strange words just to get the rhyme. One thing I found funny to do is grab the lyrics for a popular song and paste it into Suno but ask for a different genre. I found Bon Jovi's "Living on a Prayer" worked REALLY well sumg by southern gospel choir. (Songs by Slayer, not so much!). 😂
I can still tell on the vocals but that is a huge, improvement. The lyrics game however has been stepped up to Absolute Glory from what I've just heard. It's, close, way, too, close.
People are admittedly creating superb tracks with these services.
while never learning to play one instrument. Got it
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AI is doing all the so-called "creating."
All the person does is enter prompts - literally anyone can do that. That's not musical talent.
@@justincrandall3178 EXACTLY! It gives untalented people a veil of being "talented"
Thanks. Love it 😊
Cool! But... Vocals still not there. And also, still sounds like a not so great MP3-conversion. The high frequencies are giving me chills...
You didnt mention that it does not allow you make a persona of your own voice. Thats why i bought it and nowhere is written that you cannot choose your uploads as persona
Wow....I actually love that song.
Is there an AI that i can feed it a link to a UA-cam music video and have it create something sounding similar but not enough to get copyright restricted?
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Beep bop boogie song is LIT ❤. A whole album based off of that song would be epic❤
Where does it lead us if you are able to produce a song faster than you could listen to it?
Best prompt and technique to control tempo also best prompt for winning harmonies in chorus
Stunning, Its arrived
i've got old poor quality tape recordings from the 90s. Any way to 'restore' those songs with Suno as if they were recorded in a studio, but keeping the vocals and the music same as source?
Suno needs to get feature to allow a person to replace the ai voice with their own voice .
I'm looking for help with my idea. I would like to create a radio station that plays only ai generated songs as long as it's an human writer. It would be an eclectic station like me meaning the station is not fixed upon one genre of music. 😊
This is an amazing & pioneering idea 👏🏼👏🏼
No idea what I made wrong, but with my prompts it makes everything else but what I expect. I used this one "club house, hard beats, strong bass, energetic" and it was not even close to what I expected/want.
Use tags throughout your songs like this to have more dynamics and emphasize the styles:
[Verse 1: Club House, Energetic]
song lyrics
[Verse 2: Add Strong Bass]
more lyrics
@jasonshere Thanks. I will try
@@jasonshere I tried. It´s better but still far away from what I want. I also tried at Udio. The result comes a bit closer to my idea. I guess the music from both is more for the mass then for an individual taste. Or I have to create some hundred songs to get one I like.
@@cnxexpat1862 I typically get about 1-2 "good" songs from 10 free ones I generate with Suno, and 1-2 "okay" songs. - They're all improving quickly though. I saved/liked about 150 of my 600+ songs.
Basically we can just prepare the lyrics and formatting well, try different styles tags, and then roll the dice to see what comes out the other end.
The randomness is part of the fun for me, but it can be disappointing if you spend your 10 generations or a couple of hours without getting something that matches what you're looking for.
Suno v4 have the shimmery glitch that they are not able to fix
That is how you can tell it's an AI song.
what is Shimmery?
I believe most vocalists would most value an ai offering that improves their vocal quality/tone, etc. without making them sound like someone else, i.e. an ai voice that's great, but not them any longer. What ai offering can do that? If there is one, "average" singers would want it big time. Thanks for what you do, new subscriber here.
Going to have to make a VoiceHub theme song 😎
Good idea🎶
The ghost song is so catchy! I need to get this.!!!
This is part of the industry future, music is always changing…..
With Synapticalzombie, every artificially intelligent non-musician can enter their artificially intelligent song lyrics, for example: “Ou ou ou, Synypsenzombie is sooo great”, which is then fitted into “winning” chord sequences (I-vi-ii-V) and every artificially intelligent non-musician is also an artist. It may not have created anything new, like the "right-handed guitarist with six thumbs" Jimi Hendrix (according to Synapticalzombie), but at least the world has a new toy with which every 4-year-old kindergartener can become an artist.
to go back in time with this and be the next beatles
Maybe that’s what they did… 😂
Let’s say you are putting together video clips. Can you ask it to create an audio that emphasizes specific seconds of the audio to fit a video clip?
I’ve been making music it’s on my page… it’s not so simple as it’s often made out to be, I’ve been in several bands, and worked in hip hop for years.
I’m glad to hear the vocals still sound robotic and terrible, despite what you claimed
😮😮THE SAD AI SONG is chef's kiss #Sheesh
Best prompt and technique to control tempo
This tool is book of ideas for musicians
What tool would you recommend to generate the sheet music for Suno songs?
Don't you hear some weird artifacts in the background of v4 music? I've been testing it out for some days now and keep listening to the same noise, I can't describe it better than a "grind" sound.
I'm ngl, I actually used Suno as inspiration for my debut Single "SYNESTHESIA", originally I had asked Chatgpt for a chord progression then a future house arp progression and took those inputs and put em into Suno then used the finished results as a reference and built my entire track around it then added in an acapella from Cymatics and sure enough that song got signed to a record label within days! AI is scary yet very useful
Where do you suggest marketing it?
I'm subscribed to Udio, but the lyrics are getting stale. I so badly would love to see a comparison video with Suno v4. The stem bleed in Udio is pretty bad, which hurts in post. Unfortunately Suno doesn't have a trial with v4. Great video. Thanks for it all. 💯
Main issue for me is the white noise being spammed a ton in the background.
Pro musician's get a great tool to make music. My grandma does as well!