hmmmmm i know its a hair style and you guys probably didn't intent anything negative, but idk, it feels uncomfortable to see non-black people wear cornrows/dreadlocks/boxbraids. So i would like to provide context: It goes way back from 3000 b.c. as a protective styling on African curly hair. it specially has a cultural roots in the African-American community. What you guys are wearing called cornrows because many people in slavery wears it as its a quick and easy maintenance hairstyle while they're 'working'. This is something that we've done for sooo long to manage our hair, and to this day black people still got profiled for wearing in certain places. But you guys wear it for.. a performance..? for aesthetic ...? i think other hairstyle could easily suits this stage. If you guys credit it, and be like 'I love this style because it came from this place, or the dance move are rooted from this place' then it would be wonderful. People can like what they like so I can't say just because you're not black, you can't wear cornrows, but I want you to know the history and where it comes from. Thankyou
I want to fully understand your argument. Can you help me? (This can be strange because it's translated by a translator.) As an Asian, I have experienced rejection of the unconscious use of Asian culture in the West. Maybe it's called orientalism. It causes repulsion in the historical context, because it served as a means of justifying imperial domination and aggression. I understand that the discussion of hairstyles has begun in a similar context. I've tried to understand based on what I've experienced and learned, but I'm ignorant of Western history and the current situation. Let me know if there's anything else I need to know. What I'm confused about is this. Do you also feel repulsed when people from cultures who are not practically the subject of racism do that hairstyle? If you feel repulsed, I think people shouldn't do that hairstyle. But I don't think I understand enough of your feelings. I can't even figure out what exactly I don't know. I have taken it for granted that various cultures influence each other in the global era and develop art and culture. Could you leave a more detailed comment for me? Since you kindly left a comment, I muster up the courage to ask you a question. Thank you for reading.
@@user-pw5dd5vq6f Hey, thanks for asking! Many people has different takes on this so i can't say for general. "Repulsed" is such a strong word, i wouldn't use that to describe it, but i am irritated. Privilege is a touchy subject, because it puts the people who have it on the defensive. (And that’s pretty much all of us, since we all benefit from one form of privilege or another). But privilege and erasure are at the heart of any discussion about appropriation. It’s not that the TURNZ members meant to offend with their hairstyles or jewelry. Their intent may very well have been good. But as non-Black and -brown people, they have the privilege to wear the looks associated with another person’s culture when that person can’t necessarily wear looks from her own culture without suffering some type of fallout. Sometimes I wish I could wear those cornrow braids because I just want my hair off my face. But what does it signal when I wear them as a Black person? It denotes that I’m ghetto or that I’m likely not educated. I don’t have the license to wear this particular hairstyle as I want to. White or Asian people, however, could wear it any day of the week and walk into a professional settings, and no one is going to think they uses dr*gs or lacks sophistication. No one is going to fire them, or kick them out of school for wearing these hairstyles. However, on the fashion front, what is someone who loves lots of different cultures to do? Are we as individuals “allowed” to wear only the native styles of our ancestors? Should everybody just shop at the Gap and call it a day? I’m not discouraging anyone from being inspired by other cultures, and I don’t think we should water down our looks for fear of the thought police. It comes down to the spirit in which you wear a them - and whether that spirit communicates respect versus condescension. The line between celebration and appropriation gets crossed when there is the unacknowledged or inappropriate adoption of the customs, practices or ideas of one group by another, typically more dominant group. It comes down to whether you’re aware of a look’s cultural history, whether you give credit where it is due (as opposed to renaming the style), and how you honor whatever you are borrowing. So borrow away - just be conscious about it. That's the conclusion. Sorry for the long reply but you asked for detailed explanation :D. You can use this link if you're curious for the historical background bedssu.co.uk/post/7DR4D/black-history-month-2022-the-history-behind-cornrows .
@@asnahk9474 just don't be a freakin snowflake man. A lot of things you are eating wearing doing etc.are from other cultures also. But they aint be bitching about it
@@asnahk9474 Thank you for your answer! My question may have been a little silly, but it was very helpful to me. I'm glad I asked you a question. After seeing similar comments about hairstyles elsewhere before, I learned that I shouldn't do hairstyles like cornrows. But I didn't know why. To understand the reason, I tried to think about the discrimination that my culture experiences. But I think that might have been a rude idea, too. I'm sorry. Modern and historical problems are very complicated, and I'm ashamed that I tried to understand them too simply. The English translation may not work as I intended. Thank you for answering my question kindly. I've read what you sent me! Of course, using a translator. Have a nice day!
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절크의 군무에다가 더 신선하고 젊은 아이디어를 쏙쏙 넣은것 같은....
조나인이라는 절크파생 천재리더가 턴즈를 멋지게 잘 이끌고 있구나 라는 생각이 드는 무대다
와..퀄리티무엇..미쳤다턴즈😮👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
와 소름…
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swf worthy
Does anyone know music they used? or who is the DJ
song list please
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hmmmmm i know its a hair style and you guys probably didn't intent anything negative, but idk, it feels uncomfortable to see non-black people wear cornrows/dreadlocks/boxbraids. So i would like to provide context:
It goes way back from 3000 b.c. as a protective styling on African curly hair. it specially has a cultural roots in the African-American community. What you guys are wearing called cornrows because many people in slavery wears it as its a quick and easy maintenance hairstyle while they're 'working'. This is something that we've done for sooo long to manage our hair, and to this day black people still got profiled for wearing in certain places. But you guys wear it for.. a performance..? for aesthetic ...? i think other hairstyle could easily suits this stage.
If you guys credit it, and be like 'I love this style because it came from this place, or the dance move are rooted from this place' then it would be wonderful. People can like what they like so I can't say just because you're not black, you can't wear cornrows, but I want you to know the history and where it comes from. Thankyou
are you black, are you in the US. Why are you in the US, it's the native indians' land. Get out of USA please, thank you
I want to fully understand your argument. Can you help me? (This can be strange because it's translated by a translator.)
As an Asian, I have experienced rejection of the unconscious use of Asian culture in the West. Maybe it's called orientalism. It causes repulsion in the historical context, because it served as a means of justifying imperial domination and aggression.
I understand that the discussion of hairstyles has begun in a similar context. I've tried to understand based on what I've experienced and learned, but I'm ignorant of Western history and the current situation. Let me know if there's anything else I need to know.
What I'm confused about is this. Do you also feel repulsed when people from cultures who are not practically the subject of racism do that hairstyle? If you feel repulsed, I think people shouldn't do that hairstyle. But I don't think I understand enough of your feelings. I can't even figure out what exactly I don't know. I have taken it for granted that various cultures influence each other in the global era and develop art and culture. Could you leave a more detailed comment for me?
Since you kindly left a comment, I muster up the courage to ask you a question. Thank you for reading.
@@user-pw5dd5vq6f Hey, thanks for asking! Many people has different takes on this so i can't say for general. "Repulsed" is such a strong word, i wouldn't use that to describe it, but i am irritated.
Privilege is a touchy subject, because it puts the people who have it on the defensive. (And that’s pretty much all of us, since we all benefit from one form of privilege or another). But privilege and erasure are at the heart of any discussion about appropriation. It’s not that the TURNZ members meant to offend with their hairstyles or jewelry. Their intent may very well have been good.
But as non-Black and -brown people, they have the privilege to wear the looks associated with another person’s culture when that person can’t necessarily wear looks from her own culture without suffering some type of fallout. Sometimes I wish I could wear those cornrow braids because I just want my hair off my face. But what does it signal when I wear them as a Black person? It denotes that I’m ghetto or that I’m likely not educated. I don’t have the license to wear this particular hairstyle as I want to. White or Asian people, however, could wear it any day of the week and walk into a professional settings, and no one is going to think they uses dr*gs or lacks sophistication. No one is going to fire them, or kick them out of school for wearing these hairstyles.
However, on the fashion front, what is someone who loves lots of different cultures to do? Are we as individuals “allowed” to wear only the native styles of our ancestors? Should everybody just shop at the Gap and call it a day? I’m not discouraging anyone from being inspired by other cultures, and I don’t think we should water down our looks for fear of the thought police. It comes down to the spirit in which you wear a them - and whether that spirit communicates respect versus condescension.
The line between celebration and appropriation gets crossed when there is the unacknowledged or inappropriate adoption of the customs, practices or ideas of one group by another, typically more dominant group. It comes down to whether you’re aware of a look’s cultural history, whether you give credit where it is due (as opposed to renaming the style), and how you honor whatever you are borrowing.
So borrow away - just be conscious about it. That's the conclusion. Sorry for the long reply but you asked for detailed explanation :D. You can use this link if you're curious for the historical background bedssu.co.uk/post/7DR4D/black-history-month-2022-the-history-behind-cornrows .
@@asnahk9474 just don't be a freakin snowflake man. A lot of things you are eating wearing doing etc.are from other cultures also. But they aint be bitching about it
@@asnahk9474 Thank you for your answer! My question may have been a little silly, but it was very helpful to me. I'm glad I asked you a question.
After seeing similar comments about hairstyles elsewhere before, I learned that I shouldn't do hairstyles like cornrows. But I didn't know why.
To understand the reason, I tried to think about the discrimination that my culture experiences. But I think that might have been a rude idea, too. I'm sorry. Modern and historical problems are very complicated, and I'm ashamed that I tried to understand them too simply.
The English translation may not work as I intended. Thank you for answering my question kindly. I've read what you sent me! Of course, using a translator. Have a nice day!