Western Maryland 1309: Thunder In The Allegheny Mountains (HD)

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  • @rajabhat6418
    @rajabhat6418 2 роки тому +8

    Good. That whistle is still ringing in my ears. I am from india what a sound. True. U brought my childhood days back. Technology killed everything. Where to hear this sound. Only on utube. Thank u. Tears. Great.
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  • @pennsylvania_steam7093
    @pennsylvania_steam7093 2 роки тому +37

    T1 whistle sounds beautiful on 1309

  • @louisletourneau3429
    @louisletourneau3429 2 роки тому +4

    Beautifull with the real sound no commentaries , pure pleasure !!!!

  • @northpennvalleysteamrailroad
    @northpennvalleysteamrailroad 2 роки тому +13

    Awesome video of 1309 and 5550s whistle!

  • @hawkeyeten2450
    @hawkeyeten2450 2 роки тому +60

    I must admit I was skeptical about the new Pennsy T1 project for a while, but I am DEEPLY impressed by how much they've accomplished. They just might pull off the seemingly impossible! Hope 5550 is completed and runs for decades to come.

    • @105C09
      @105C09 2 роки тому +5

      Amen! I wonder if it will have poppet valves.

    • @barakmiller2890
      @barakmiller2890 2 роки тому +8

      I don't understand why everyone was so mad that the pennsy T1 project was gonna try and Break the world steam speed record I mean all they're trying to do is prove that it can be done because if they're right the T1 could do it anyway when they were a thing in the 1940s I mean with the poppet valves there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to do it Maybe they'll even be able to prove that it was economical to run That it was able to compete with diesels and be able to run cargo for less than 50 cents per mile And passengers for less than 70 cents per mile The New York central Niagara's got pretty close To giving diesels a run for their money 💰 the Norfolk and Western railway as well did put up a good fight for the clearly superior locomotive design that is steam locomotives no Stinking diesels in this place

    • @09JDCTrainMan
      @09JDCTrainMan 2 роки тому +7

      @@barakmiller2890 Well, the N&W J actually did end up being more economical than the set of two EMD E6s it was compared to from tests done from late 1945 to early 1947.

    • @barakmiller2890
      @barakmiller2890 2 роки тому +2

      I think it would be nice to see a revival of the Ace 3000 project to see if it even would have worked after the whole oil crisis Of the 1970s and everything Considering the whole crisis with Russia causing oil prices to shoot through the roof now a days I bet the Ace 3000 project wouldn't be that bad of an idea There's 2 ways we can go either have a coal fired steam locomotive or have electric locomotives

    • @barakmiller2890
      @barakmiller2890 2 роки тому +1

      And please join in if anyone has any more ideas I think this conversation could be interesting Like I have a soft spot in my heart for the Union Pacific steam turbines 1 and 2 And I love the N&W y6A and y6B locomotives As well as the N&W A class locomotive

  • @reneekilian581
    @reneekilian581 2 роки тому +4

    Can't wait to see Pennsylvania rr 5550 in future videos

  • @Train115
    @Train115 2 роки тому +14

    The H6 "Mallets" are the closest things we have left to the H7 "Simple Simons" class of locomotive. They were generally very similar, the biggest difference being that the H7 was a 2-8-8-2 rather than the 2-6-6-2 of the H6.

    • @blackbirdgaming8147
      @blackbirdgaming8147 2 роки тому +1

      The other big difference was the H7s, as the nickname implies, were simple articulateds. H6s were compounds.

    • @markantony3875
      @markantony3875 2 роки тому +1

      In addition to the 2 additional drive axles, the H7 had a much larger boiler.

  • @donavanveld
    @donavanveld 2 роки тому +3

    That's one beautiful engine. And that whistle. OMFG. Orgasmatic

  • @boombox4037
    @boombox4037 2 роки тому +3

    Look at that thing very big and the whistle sounds lovely

  • @gretchenchadwick8343
    @gretchenchadwick8343 Рік тому +1

    My son really loves trains 🚆🚋🚞🚝🚊🚉🚈🚇🚅🚄🚃🚂🛤 especially steam locomotives 🚂 like 1309 there. He also hopes that very soon the track right next to the one they currently use and the rest of the line from switch #9 to Connellsville PA is rebuilt and used again for both passenger and freight trains he really believes that the Western Maryland Connellsville subdivision would still have its uses today if it was kept intact.

  • @mstng100mph
    @mstng100mph 2 роки тому +4

    My goodness that whistle matches this locomotive so well!

  • @amtrakandcsxrailfanning164
    @amtrakandcsxrailfanning164 Рік тому +2

    great catches and video on this railroad with this big beest

  • @105C09
    @105C09 2 роки тому +1

    A great train done right. Congratulations from an old volunteer from the 90's and #734 era. I still have photos I took of its rebuild in the shop and its first run.

  • @nevetslegasi5686
    @nevetslegasi5686 2 роки тому +3

    That is just Beautiful. Stunning.

  • @ccrx6700
    @ccrx6700 2 роки тому +5

    Excellent presentation! We gonna ride 1309 in 3 weeks this just added fuel to my fire. Great job editing. 👍❤😊

  • @davidng2336
    @davidng2336 2 роки тому +6

    1309 is a BEAST! I have to visit this place one day when this locomotive is running. I wonder if it will ever wear its original whistle.

    • @CaptainCrutch
      @CaptainCrutch 2 роки тому +2

      It’s original whistle was stole before the engine ever even made it to the B&O museum, let alone making it to the WMSR. So unless it turns up one day, I’m afraid 1309 wearing her original whistle is unfortunately impossible.

    • @davidng2336
      @davidng2336 2 роки тому +2

      @@CaptainCrutch I see. Well the whistle it wears currently is better lmao

    • @theextremeanimator4721
      @theextremeanimator4721 2 роки тому

      Ugnrgh!-

  • @keeperofsteamstudios6654
    @keeperofsteamstudios6654 2 роки тому +5

    Excellent job Vince! Glad we could chase with each other for one of the days!

  • @reddead_73
    @reddead_73 2 роки тому +3

    The most beautiful steam locomotive ever made! The whistle sounds absolutely music to my ears! Love to see it in person one day. Absolute beautiful machine.

  • @chendersonrailproductions704
    @chendersonrailproductions704 2 роки тому +4

    Great video! Like the coverage you got of the line.

  • @Lakeside1943
    @Lakeside1943 2 роки тому +4

    A locomotive with lots of personality ! Nice camerawork too !

  • @844jim
    @844jim 2 роки тому +2

    Absolutely beautiful video! Thanks for posting!

  • @louGriggs1944
    @louGriggs1944 2 роки тому +2

    What a great locomotive. Great video. Thanks.

  • @TyTytheTrainGuy
    @TyTytheTrainGuy 2 роки тому +4

    Great video Vince!

  • @timosha21
    @timosha21 2 роки тому +1

    I'm a tram and I approve this video! Love the footage!

  • @paulbruno8327
    @paulbruno8327 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome footage! Beautiful Restoration on 1309! 🏆

  • @ZahidTrainsVlogs
    @ZahidTrainsVlogs 2 роки тому +1

    Wow zabrdast exelant capture dear I really enjoyed your video thumb up 👍👍

  • @brianfalzon6739
    @brianfalzon6739 2 роки тому +9

    That sounds like LIRR 39 and PRR 1361! That PRR T1 Whistle on 1309 would be on 5550 when it’s completed soon! It was also on GTW 6325 back in the days of the Ohio Central Railroad System pulling Steam excursions on the mainline!

  • @RailFanRob
    @RailFanRob 2 роки тому +5

    This locomotive is so incredible and most have took big bucks to restore such a complex machine!! Great footage!!

  • @chesapeakerailphotography
    @chesapeakerailphotography 2 роки тому +6

    Awesome video! Very well done! One of your best videos yet imo.

  • @TrainLordJC
    @TrainLordJC 2 роки тому +9

    Amazing footage including the magnificent close ups of the running gear and of course that awesome steamboat whistle. Greetings from the Train Lord in South Australia

  • @OutOfOrderGarage
    @OutOfOrderGarage 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. Love the wheel slip segment!

  • @ThePennsylvaniaRailfan
    @ThePennsylvaniaRailfan 2 роки тому +4

    Great job I’ll have to go out there sometime

  • @Interesting_Banana
    @Interesting_Banana 2 роки тому +16

    10:30 you would never expect a 12 wheel articulate that heavy to wheel slip but clearly these USRA designs weren't slouches when it came to power!

    • @KLTrainz
      @KLTrainz 2 роки тому +8

      Fun fact, this thing has more tractive effort than the UP 3985! So yea, definitely no slouch! The slipping here in particular occurred when the engineer was changing over from compound to simple mode, which increases the tractive effort from 77900 up to 98300. Quite a surge in power. You'll see the spray of steam just before each slip, which is when the engineer was attempting to change modes.

    • @Interesting_Banana
      @Interesting_Banana 2 роки тому +2

      @@KLTrainz Would never have expected a reply from you guys here! Love your products, you guys make amazing locomotives!

    • @RyanHatterer-Ryanns999
      @RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 2 роки тому +2

      @@KLTrainz Would it be the engineer switching it over or the valve inside the steam chest doing it? I remember in trains magazine DVD they did the one guy was talking about the steam engine can switch between Simple and compound automatically with this valve or the engineer can over ride the valve from the cab. I'm not to familiar with the design as not many engines could switch between the two setups.

  • @RailForce
    @RailForce 2 роки тому +15

    Great Job! I love your filming, nice to see you get footage of both whistles, also nice job catching the shot of the doe and fawn! Keep up the fantastic work!

  • @lashendawest7509
    @lashendawest7509 Рік тому +3

    Wmsr 1309 wearing prr 5550 whistle to support the restoration of 5550

  • @rem-so1ly
    @rem-so1ly Рік тому +1

    Another great video!

  • @Willysmb44
    @Willysmb44 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent production!

  • @rycn1450
    @rycn1450 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. Glad 1309 got a second career.

  • @2666loco
    @2666loco 2 роки тому +2

    I thought this was a large locomotive until I sat my PFM model next to an Allegheny. It looks like a toy next to an Allegheny yet had 98k tractive effort

  • @MPT_Productions
    @MPT_Productions 2 роки тому +6

    Great video, Vince! Your shot at the Truss bridge has me extremely jealous I didn't shoot that lol. By far your best shot in the video. I was at Helmstetter's and sadly the sun was behind the mountain. I will definitely have to try that next time!

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Mark! Glad you liked it, I wasn't sure how it would turn out but it worked out with the remaining sun.

    • @MPT_Productions
      @MPT_Productions 2 роки тому +2

      @@KeystoneRailProductions Very much worth it, in my opinion!

    • @chendersonrailproductions704
      @chendersonrailproductions704 2 роки тому

      I think your helmstetters shot still worked out. May not look like it now bud but i enjoyed it. However the truss bridge at night was lit!

    • @MPT_Productions
      @MPT_Productions 2 роки тому

      @@chendersonrailproductions704 thanks dude! Definitely need to do what Vince did and get the Truss Bridge at sunset this time.

  • @21Trainman
    @21Trainman 2 роки тому +8

    Excellent video! I’m surprised by just how quiet this engine is, even when at full torque before the wheelslip.

  • @rosangelaferreiradelimasou7117
    @rosangelaferreiradelimasou7117 2 роки тому +4

    1309 has both whistles,enjoy the video! :)

  • @IStoleUrToast-v69
    @IStoleUrToast-v69 2 роки тому +2

    that engine reminds me of the american 9000… i miss that engine… it was a legend…

  • @richardbittikofer988
    @richardbittikofer988 2 роки тому +1

    Sweet! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👌

  • @wobblinwheel
    @wobblinwheel 2 роки тому +3

    I think it's time for manufacturers such as BLI to produce a plastic (meaning reasonably priced) model of this locomotive. I would love to have one myself! I think models of restored locomotives would be good sellers....what do you think?

  • @juhirail6303
    @juhirail6303 2 роки тому +2

    Super catch
    New subscriber

  • @dennisw9108
    @dennisw9108 2 роки тому +1

    Well done Vince well done

  • @jerryhubbard4461
    @jerryhubbard4461 Рік тому +2

    What is with the two different whistles?

  • @TrainandFriends
    @TrainandFriends 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing capture friend
    New subscriber

  • @viktordubowskii695
    @viktordubowskii695 2 роки тому +3

    I can't believe that 12 wheels and that much weight on dry rails, could slip like that. I wonder if at that point the engineer put her into working simple mode and not compound, because in simple it makes 97,000 lbs of tractive effort.

  • @billveitch2100
    @billveitch2100 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent production!
    I’m wondering what purpose that small exhaust stack ahead of the main smokestack serves.

    • @20kBOOSTED
      @20kBOOSTED 2 роки тому +2

      It the exhaust out of the steam airpumps on the front

    • @evanstauffer4470
      @evanstauffer4470 2 роки тому +2

      It looks like it's the steam exhaust from the two air pumps (compressors) mounted on the front of the smoke box.

  • @gamer7749
    @gamer7749 2 роки тому +4

    Her sister C&O 1308 is on static display in Huntington WV, I hope someday they’ll restore that too

  • @maxwellwalcher6420
    @maxwellwalcher6420 2 роки тому +4

    Fantastic Would we have New York Central J3a Streamline Hudson 5406.

    • @joneau261
      @joneau261 2 роки тому +5

      Why do your comments make no sense?

  • @trainsbreath6517
    @trainsbreath6517 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing😍

  • @TwinFun0327
    @TwinFun0327 2 роки тому +1

    Is there a reason why she emits so much steam in various places...?

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому +1

      This is mainly due to the cylinder packing leaking, which is common after restorations, and the fact that a large scale restoration like this locomotive has never been done before.

  • @McDeth187
    @McDeth187 2 роки тому +1

    What's with the 2 different steam whistles? Never heard that on a steam locomotive before...

  • @thomastaylor6699
    @thomastaylor6699 2 роки тому +3

    So, when was this steam engine rebuilt? It looks and sounds fantastic.

  • @NinjagoGuy416
    @NinjagoGuy416 2 роки тому +3

    Why exactly does 1309 have two whistles? I’ve never actually seen that before on a steamer

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому +1

      This was documented over two days. The crew changed the whistle on the second day.

    • @CaptainCrutch
      @CaptainCrutch 2 роки тому +2

      In other words, she doesn’t have 2 whistles, just one, but any steam engine can have its whistle easily swapped out.
      However, 2102 is an example of a steam engine that DOES wear 2 whistles, her original freight hooter and her 6 chime.

    • @KLTrainz
      @KLTrainz 2 роки тому +3

      The 7470 up at the Conway Scenic Railroad had 3 whistles on it at one point.

    • @TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul
      @TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul 2 роки тому

      They briefly had it switched out to let the T1 trust test the whistle intended for #5550, the Hooter is already back

  • @6allmotivepowers363
    @6allmotivepowers363 2 роки тому +8

    Awesome video! I especially like your shots of the wheel slip and the river crossing. I was wondering - would it be okay if I use a few seconds of this footage in a video that I'm working on? It's not for monetary purposes.

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому +3

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed! I’m glad you asked but unfortunately at this time I would prefer the footage not to be distributed.

    • @6allmotivepowers363
      @6allmotivepowers363 2 роки тому +2

      No problem, thanks anyway 👍

  • @HunterWilliams-le9bk
    @HunterWilliams-le9bk 5 місяців тому

    How could the driving wheels on 1309 be controlled separately unlike on 4014 and 3985?

  • @2666loco
    @2666loco 2 роки тому +1

    Why a "normal" sounding whistle at times and a hooter whistle at others? Beautiful detail shots. Which was the real whistle they used?

  • @scottnyc6572
    @scottnyc6572 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!!
    New viewer and subscriber here.Love the old locomotive videos.What times of the year does this run?Thanks

  • @jetporter
    @jetporter 2 роки тому +3

    Beautiful locomotive, and very nicely shot and edited video. I enjoyed it, although it's always disappointing to see a diesel locomotive hiding somewhere in the train.

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! Unfortunately it’s a somewhat necessary with steam in the 21st century.

  • @ddteamrc6461
    @ddteamrc6461 2 роки тому +2

    What happened to the whistle 😕, no more freight hooter?

  • @wildandwackywade
    @wildandwackywade 2 роки тому

    How is the stem engine pulled? In reverse or neutral or does.it help the diesel engine going backwards?
    Second question is does the engine need special licensing to run run both steam and diesel or once they get certified they can run any engine on the line?

    • @justinmclean5778
      @justinmclean5778 Рік тому

      Diesel engines are required for just their breaking capability if I remember correctly. Everything else is powered by the steam engine locomotive

  • @EastboundProductions
    @EastboundProductions 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video, do you know any good spots to chase here and how to get to them, Thanks-Jack

  • @ericcalhoun9160
    @ericcalhoun9160 2 роки тому +1

    It sounds like LIRR 39, PRR 1361 and Grand Canyon 1220.

  • @OldIronVideo
    @OldIronVideo 2 роки тому

    Around what time in the morning does she cross the river into Maryland to pick up passengers?

  • @johnathanhardin152
    @johnathanhardin152 2 роки тому +1

    It’s time for her to wear a Western Maryland whistle!

    • @MackeyBigBoy4014
      @MackeyBigBoy4014 2 роки тому

      Like the Potomac whistle?

    • @regularguy7266
      @regularguy7266 2 роки тому

      @@MackeyBigBoy4014 they actually own one, they tested it before 1309 was fully restored. The Western Maryland has a video of them blowing the whistle, just search WM 1309s whistle here on UA-cam if you want to hear it.

  • @andyoutlaww7494
    @andyoutlaww7494 11 місяців тому

    How are they running both whistles? Are they running off of the same locomotive or separate?

  • @csgptg
    @csgptg 2 роки тому +1

    Does it have two whistles or am I missing something?

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому

      As noted in the description, this was documented over two days where the whistle was changed.

    • @csgptg
      @csgptg 2 роки тому

      @@KeystoneRailProductions ah I see.

  • @Mr.Rogers143
    @Mr.Rogers143 2 роки тому +3

    Very cool! Why is there usually a diesel locomotive at the rear of the train when it's being pulled by a steamer?

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому +3

      The diesel in this case is used in case of mechanical failure and for leading the return trip.

    • @Mr.Rogers143
      @Mr.Rogers143 2 роки тому +2

      @@KeystoneRailProductions That makes sense. I guess with just how old these engines are you would want a want a backup just in case. I rarely see them on steam locos in the UK but it seems to be only here in the US.

  • @WhiteSilk1783
    @WhiteSilk1783 2 роки тому

    Damn that's a big boi

  • @joemalone6923
    @joemalone6923 2 роки тому +2

    I miss the N&W hooter whistle

    • @nicholasmedovich8691
      @nicholasmedovich8691 2 роки тому +3

      If there was a 3 chime Hancock from a scrapped K2 or K2a I would be stoked

    • @joemalone6923
      @joemalone6923 2 роки тому

      @@nicholasmedovich8691 Yeah so would I the Hancock 3 chime whistle is one of my favorite whistles

    • @CaptainCrutch
      @CaptainCrutch 2 роки тому +1

      The hooter is already back, the PRR 3 was just visiting for a few days.

    • @joemalone6923
      @joemalone6923 2 роки тому

      @@CaptainCrutch Yeah I saw that when I watched the whole video

  • @stanleyromanowski9816
    @stanleyromanowski9816 2 роки тому +1

    Is 1309 too long for the turntable at Frostburg?

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому

      1309 has been measured to fit on the turntable. The only issue is 1309 is unable to navigate the curve leading to the turntable.

    • @Schmitty-zm7fz
      @Schmitty-zm7fz 2 роки тому

      @@KeystoneRailProductions is that why they have a diesel on the back for the return trip?

    • @Schmitty-zm7fz
      @Schmitty-zm7fz 2 роки тому

      @@KeystoneRailProductions will the fix the curve to allow 1309 to get to it?

    • @KeystoneRailProductions
      @KeystoneRailProductions  2 роки тому +1

      @@Schmitty-zm7fz the curve is supposed to be fixed eventually

    • @CaptainCrutch
      @CaptainCrutch 2 роки тому

      @@Schmitty-zm7fz this is indeed why the diesel is on the back

  • @artismbyjoey779
    @artismbyjoey779 2 роки тому +1

    It has 2 whistles?

    • @TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul
      @TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul 2 роки тому

      The hooter has been reinstalled by now, it was temporarily using the whistle intended to be used on PRR T1 #5550 when it is finished around 2030

  • @drewschlecker3194
    @drewschlecker3194 2 роки тому

    Just out of curiosity, what video camera do you use? I'm thinking about upgrading mine from the handycam to the professional series your thoughts would be greatly appreciated

  • @thatrandomtrainguy1604
    @thatrandomtrainguy1604 2 роки тому +1

    What type of camera do you use?

  • @alexandreluiz211
    @alexandreluiz211 2 роки тому

    As chuvas nessa época era mais frequemtis a plantação até ficava mais vi ssoza verde e so tirarem uma baze mui mto bom

  • @NW-gi1cp
    @NW-gi1cp 2 роки тому +1

    Prr 5550!!

  • @Stasiunminihd
    @Stasiunminihd 2 роки тому

    Keren sekali

  • @oldnstillworkin5709
    @oldnstillworkin5709 Рік тому +1

    It’s too bad they don’t run around the train and pull it back

  • @jamesbrooks4805
    @jamesbrooks4805 Рік тому

    All of WMSRR steam locomotives sound out of time. 734 had an off rhythm. So does this one. I know it’s articulated. Listen to all the others out there. This one still sounds off. Instead of “I think I can” it sounds like “I thinki can”.

  • @54SIBIR54
    @54SIBIR54 2 роки тому +1

    👍👍👍👍

  • @marcdelente2456
    @marcdelente2456 8 місяців тому

    nous sommes loin de la sublime pacific 231 qui si les origines sont les plans de concept américain et qui a trouvé sont apogée des 1922 et modifié 3 fois sur le réseau ferroviaire SNCF.

  • @maypeciller750
    @maypeciller750 2 роки тому

    wow

  • @herlindajayme6051
    @herlindajayme6051 2 роки тому

    I tough it was virginia railway class ag

  • @Stasiunminihd
    @Stasiunminihd 2 роки тому

    Mantab nang

  • @TrainLiker34
    @TrainLiker34 11 місяців тому

    Am Sure if that Passenger Cars Have A Lark SP Passenger Car 💀

  • @VINCENTH8
    @VINCENTH8 4 місяці тому

    NICE, HOWEVER WRONG PAINT WRONG WHISLE

  • @bodarville2510
    @bodarville2510 2 роки тому

    Beautiful but that
    annoying blue growth on the end needs removed.

  • @lunalie6938
    @lunalie6938 2 роки тому

    beefy

  • @jerryhubbard4461
    @jerryhubbard4461 Рік тому

    Too much locomotive for excursion. Expensive to operate.

  • @mouadnouguiza301
    @mouadnouguiza301 2 роки тому

    ببءءء

  • @fotoralf
    @fotoralf 2 роки тому

    Stopped watching after 10 minutes. Far too much whistling.