I fart a lot. Thinking about starting an only fans, to show it off. Ahhh I’ll let you know, there will be an announcement on my main channel, and your local news.
I said it once, and I'll say it again. Your videos are fantastic, and the fact you don't have a million subs at this point is infuriating to me. Great job, as always.
@@edwardvstheworld Whether it's intended for it or not, it's nice to be successful but just slightly smaller. Means he can interact with the community more and is more rarely flooded with shitheads looking to disappoint their ancestors by spitting vitriol. It's honestly for the best. He's nearing 100k as I write this, at 98.1k subscribers, so he's doing really well. That's a lot of people liking your stuff. Helps that his content is getting even better. Really felt out his own unique style of content.
Been watching Grim Beard's videos thanks to a recommendation from Mandalore and it just baffles me he only has 9k subscribers with the quality present here. Maybe he pissed off some evil cosmic entity now cursing his videos, like the youtube algorithm.
@@GeusGames yeah, there's a video he made, i think it was channel update where he made some yt recommendations. There I met the mister Grim here and Kreal, from KrealTube, great content from both :D
"weird thumbnails" - Weird? In that they're tasteful? Accurately and faithfully represent the content of the video? Are constructively branded and not a complete fucking eyesore? Or are they 'weird just because they don't have a gurning idiot mugging confusion and horror at something so poorly shot and/or framed that you wouldn't even -know- _be able to guess_ what the subject of the video was if it wasn't highlighted with a big red circle and arrow _and_ all too clearly spelled out in the ALL CAPS title along with "YUO WONT BELEEVE" "OMG" "3AM" GONE WRONG" I don't really get the impression you're using 'weird' as underhanded way of saying 'crap' but I don't see what's 'weird' about them either... Maybe I'm just losing touch
I'd love to hear what your thoughts are of "Deadly Premonition" Also, don't discredit yourself... You're not the off-screen death. You're our hero, Grimbeard.
Two days ago I find out City of Heroes/Villains is back from the dead. Just now, Grim Beard posts a new video. This may be the best week of my life. Ia Grim Beard!
Your content pleases me. Your channel appeases me and assuages my wrath. 3 years after this video was published, I now deign to comment and inform you that you officially get to live. For now.
I like this channel. I like pretty much everything about it. I don’t understand how it’s only gained 3k subs or so since I started watching but I kinda feel like once you break 10k you appear more in the ‘you might like’ lists and things will naturally moved along quicker. I really hope that happens soon! Anyway, I remember enjoying the game but barely being able to remember anything else about it a year later. Now I know why...
Absolutely love The Suffering games. I hope one day THQ Nordic buys the IP and works on a proper remaster. I have a copy of each game on PC & PS2. Even have a prima guide for Ties That Bind. Still looking for good complete xbox copies.
To me, this game is perfect. I love the action, the way the story is beign told, and of course, the atmosphere. This game is among the top games/horror/horror action for me. Also, i'd recommend a playthrough on impossible diffculty, as you won't drown in ammo there. And if you really some suffering, play evil impossible :D
This game feels so Clive Berker-esque. Creepy prison, monsters symbolising methodes of execution. It feels even more like something made by Barker than Undying to me.
@@GuyMontag0451 yeah, it's a shame that gameplay in Jericho was so bad because everything else was awesome. The story, locations, enemy design - top notch, but this is to be expected from Barker
@@DzikiWaclaw it was so close to being a good shooter. With more enemy variety and shorter areas I think it could have been a hit. The body horror was amazing. Loved the idea olbehind the first born etc
You should check out the obscure game called "The Devil Inside". It has such a strange concept, that I'm sure you'll find it interesting. Oh and the review was great as always ;)
Whenever somebody says “Obscure game” I get excited that they’re about to reference the Obscure series. Devil Inside is also great and I think he did do a review on it since you commented.
I think the gameplay works as part of the horror due to the main theme of the game being that of violence and how we express it. Whether as a means of discovery(killjoy), a craft to perfect (hermes),or just this burst of emotion we can’t rightly explain why we did so (Horace). Torque (the player ) by fighting his way through this menagerie of brutality he finds his own conclusion to what violence can be and how he personally uses it. That’s just the way I’ve come to see it of course and one can argue that spec ops the line may have done this better but I admittedly have not played it but nonetheless to each their own
I know that the spoilers issue has been discussed earlier but I for one would love you to go over the stories of games in more detail. Since you mostly review old games, there are people who have played them already or I'm guessing there are also quite a lot of people like me. I'm never going to play any of these older adventure games that I haven't already played back in the day but I'd love to know more of the story than just the basics. Of course I could go on and read about it myself but then I would be missing out on your take on the matter. Anyway, top content, keep it grim.
I really loved this game when I had it for Xbox. I heard the second one was good but it was too similar to the first. I never got to play "The ties that bind" so I think I'll give it a download. Great review
You know, as tired as I am of the reboot trend, this is one series I would like to see rebooted and re-imagined. If they focus on the good things and push it more towards survival horror and further away from action horror, I may really enjoy it. Thank you for the video
why am I rewatching review of the suffering ?! Oh because it's excellent?! Oh and because the music in the beginning minutes of the review is riveted in my brain?! Share the background track pls !
I know I liked the game as a kid, though I was way to freaking scared of both of these games. I remember I played on normal, *never died* during Suffering 1 and was terrified I was like playing an Iron Man version of the game, given I had no ideea how the respawn system works. Dunno why that train of throught crossed my mind though. Now that I'm older and 14 years have passed, I do have to properly play through this one and its sequel sometime. EDIT: Whoop whoop, 3 years later, in 2022, I have finally finished The Suffering 1.
I can understand your problems with the game. I also think that it should be less action but the atmosphere in the whole game is great and i love it because of that.
Nice video! I usually don't play that much games but I like few things here, especially the audio part. My question is what is the full name of that experimental instrument on 19:18 .... Sounds like stamen phone but I guess it's not that. Thanks!!!
I still like the first game. Has a lot of little secrets and quite a bit to explore. Usually the levels were sometimes only gave you one of two alternatives, but the level design and geography were real well done. Everything looped and met back at the prison and branched towards the camp and the east side of the island. I thought that was the game's strongest aspect. Sure, it's a dated game by now, but it made me go back to it again. A lot of small details, like sergei's secret stash and cannabis farm hidden in the woods a 'live and let live' sign and Killjoy's many patients laying around the property. There's way more, but I bet 90 percent of people that played the game missed them. I think the sequel tried to address some of the issues by adding a two weapon limit and not letting you hold painkillers. Honestly, the most entertaining oarts of that game wwre the two killers; they just chewed the scenery so well.
I honestly feel like this game, like most of Midway's titles, is just fun to play. They always nail the gameplay on some level. Even if you don't feel it's revolutionary, it's never boring and that's important. But like you said, it has a lot of small details that builds it up, which in my opinion is it's strongest aspect. The game really builds up Carnate Island's history and the spirit system is an effective way to tell you these stories instead of just relying on notes (though it has plenty of those too, often making the scenes redundant, but it can help provide clearer context on what you saw in the scenes, with the scenes adding more emotional depth to it by letting you see how everyone was affected and how they reacted, like the miners who were left to starve/suffocate in the mines by the guards). As far as personal story goes, it's nothing exceptional. It's a basic plot in that regard, but it works because Torque isn't the only character. Nor are the island's residents, living or dead. The whole island's a character and it's a good one.
Aaand I just found two new music artists to get into. Very cool. It's a game that wants to be survival horror and also wants to be an action power fantasy, where the main character is an unbeatable badass who turns into an even more unstoppable killing machine when in any danger. These two concepts just cannot co-exist. Bloodyrayne, for all its faults, understood the action-horror genre it was working in. The Suffering is effectively in the same genre as Bloodrayne but doesn't understand that.
This game for me really is more then a sum of it's parts with lost potential, there's a lore/story behind this game somewhere that wasn't fully realized, evertime I play it it impresses in it's confidence in it's game design and knowing what it wants to be, but it needed more time, also of the many times that I've played it strangley enough I never drew comparisons to it and other popular horror games, it just always felt like for me that it was a mid tier game doing its own thing with a slightly too strict a budget and time frame to be fully realized Wish we had !ore of these brave and confident efforts in videogame development these days
the weird foetus with bulging eyes that sometimes shows up midway through the game as one of Torque's visions is genuinely disturbing. this game is genuinely unsettling and that's why I respect it the way that I do. i feel as though this is Midway's last hurrah and they made it apparent.
I have to say, i miss such games so much. To me, it's realy a shame that not many games of this genre are coming out. The suffering one and yeeeaaah even two, Manhunt, Condamned, Silent Hill, System Shock. All these games have a spezial place in my heart. Thanks for your channel by the way.
Found your review cause i wanted to watch some review of the suffering. Not many content creators made one. Good points. I do not agree on how you feel the game, but critisism is solid and i can agree on many poits you presented. Subscribed. And i need to replay this game soon. Oh and thank you for using widescreen patch. Other reviewer i saw used 4:3 stretched to 16:9 and it was painful to watch.
And solutions to sound problems can be discovered on gog forums and on PCgamingwiki. Sound in this game is fucked. Something to do with surround sound stuff. It need another 3rd party sound software to output sounds correctly on modern hardware.
To be honest, I actually like the idea of horror themed action game. The Suffering for me faltered in that it didn't really seemed to commit to the idea. Horror atmosphere was there, but it somehow lacked the impact, and the action was okay, but it lacked punchiness. In my opinion, making ammo less abundant, monsters more dangerous and having more of the ideas like with the light and slayers, it could have worked really well. The way it is, it is decent enough game, enjoyable, arguably somewhat original. I would really love to have the ideas in this given a reboot with a more clear vision (closest I can think of would be gory and less phantastical Remnant, for example, with a more of a focus on story). Also, love your channel, let the goth gamer nation prevail :D !
lol, I loved *all* of the games you mentioned as "luke-warm" critical responses. I loved RE: Outbreak, even though it wasn't until over a decade and a modified Japanese ROM later that I was able to play it online (even solo it's fun), Obscure 2 was one of my earliest and most enjoyed horror experiences, and Silent Hill 4: The Room is the only Silent Hill game I've ever personally played and I loved it. Granted, all of these I was able to play with my sibling. Even Silent Hill 4, just... you know... not real coop. Technically every source online says that Outbreak did not have same-system coop, but my memories say it happened and I've learned from a recent election that how I feel matters more than the obvious facts, so I'm gonna stick with believing it until I can come up with a better opinion to save face. But really, I loved those games, and I loved The Suffering, as well. I even replayed it not too far back by modifying the PC controls to work with a controller so I didn't have to rely on the really outdated Xbox version (or play with mouse + keyboard, because I don't play third-person games that way now shush, eat your breakfast). I'm not really the main target for horror games, though. I love a good story and I love coop games or games with AI partners. Fear is not my goal with horror. I like a little bit of it, but most have boring bland unimaginative gameplay and near-constant tension, often caused by enemies that just instakill you, which is as frustrating as it is tense. So big shocker I loved all of these more forgiving games. Sucks that more people didn't, but I'd argue that just because they didn't do well commercially they're still all pretty well-received games after the fact. I rarely hear anyone complain about Silent Hill 4, but then again I'd just plug my ears the moment I thought the conversation was turning negative, so... yeah. Suck it, whiners.
7:30 “You buy this for the scare and atmosphere factor which cannot be beat!” Tell that to DUSK, Soma and Fran Bow. Especially the former on Duskmare difficulty or Cero Miedo when the 1 hit kill rule of Duskmare gets annoying.
I've been binging your content and have yet to comment but I just wanted to say I've enjoyed all your reviews, while having my disagreements I can appreciate your take. I do have to question why exactly you avoided using the transformation mechanic, if for no other reason because you didn't see it as "necessary"? I mean I personally don't find playing games to be a necessity but simply as a thing I want to do and so generally if I find a game mechanic fun I'd use it despite potentially having a conventionaly simpler way of achieving a similar result. Just curious, great review.
Sick ass video man! Love this one. Also, you seem to like the same music as me. (Black metal and aggro/industrial stuff, which is pretty rare, at least here in the us.)
@@slipgatetourist4929 Yeah really, save the comments section for the information utterly crucial to our most fundamental survival, for sharing of which the comments section on UA-cam is otherwise strictly, exclusively used..!
I play this game on Impossible myself. A much better experience in my opinion, because enemies have a higher damage tolerance and do way more damage to the player. This combined with the overall tone of the game makes gameplay feel 10x more intense.
Though I don't agree overall with your assessment of the plot or tone, I will say that I played this game once or twice when I was a kid. This was back when I could barely handle horror. It was a little difficult to get past my hesitation, but I *did* complete the game more than once back then. So while I don't feel it was a disappointment at all, if you're looking for "scares", this game doesn't really have it unless you're a 4-year-old. There are certainly some scary moments, the whole game has a great horror *atmosphere,* but it rarely consistently scares you. I think it's best to look at this more as a action title with horror as its set-dressing. It deals with brutal themes and you're not really playing a hero, but you can redeem yourself or damn yourself accordingly, and the setting is a really fun one to play around in. I mean seriously, how many great story titles have you busting out of prison? Like as part of the plot, not backstory bullshit like that one (of many) trash Silent Hill game(s). Even less that have monsters getting in your way. I would argue that where the plot of the character is simplified, the character of the island and its history is *rich* to make up for it. Carnate Island has a dark past that the game is constantly trying to show you and it's not to scare you, that's the wrong way to look at it, it's to immerse you in the setting. I wish more games would put that kind of focus on the world. It may be why I liked Silent Hill 4 so much. All of the places you go to have some sort of significance to the main antagonist and you will learn about them and their history. There may be exceptions, but I'm pretty sure they all matter. I can't play a horror game that doesn't have either great gameplay or a great story. I can't even watch a horror game that doesn't have something going on with the latter. I want to be intrigued. Carnate Island intrigues me. Torque's story isn't unimportant, it's the driving force of the game and your interactions with the people you encounter (ghostly or otherwise), but it's intentionally put to the side of the immersion of the setting. It comes up only as much as it needs to in order to satisfy your immersion and give you some choices to make. That's entirely fine by me. What would have sucked is if there were *nothing* to make up for Torque's simple story, which is what so many action titles fail to do: give you something to balance it out. But that's just me. I've wanted to play the sequel for a long time, ever since I learned about it. Never knew it even existed as a kid, so I couldn't exactly support the developers with a sale. I've had no luck getting it to run on PC, either, though I haven't tried very recently with my totally different hardware and experience.
...why would you use the meelee weapons? because firstly, when you're a 16year old noob for whom this is the first third person shooter ever, you run out of ammo quite a lot. and secondly, and MAINLY, learning to reliably kill burrowers just with the shiv is SO. INCREDIBLY. SATISFYING. and the learning process itself is SO. INCREDIBLY. SATISFYINGLY. SCARY. EDIT: The sound bug where weapons and enemies go silent for some time also ocurred in the original CD version (or at least the "Prison is hell" edition, which I'm not sure how it differs from the one without the subtitle)
It's a sweet little action thriller. I never realized that people can actually perceive it as a horror game, lol. Oh, by the way, have you played Ecstatica? People tend to laugh at the way it looks, but I find it one of the most atmospheric horror games ever made. The combination of somewhat lighthearted visuals and deeply sinister undertones is really a strong mix in my eyes.
This game was basically max payne gameplay in a silent hille-esque setting. I was sold day one.
I fart a lot. Thinking about starting an only fans, to show it off.
Ahhh I’ll let you know, there will be an announcement on my main channel, and your local news.
I said it once, and I'll say it again. Your videos are fantastic, and the fact you don't have a million subs at this point is infuriating to me. Great job, as always.
Fantastic content though niche, it is not intended for a million subs. Which is good.
@@edwardvstheworld Whether it's intended for it or not, it's nice to be successful but just slightly smaller. Means he can interact with the community more and is more rarely flooded with shitheads looking to disappoint their ancestors by spitting vitriol. It's honestly for the best. He's nearing 100k as I write this, at 98.1k subscribers, so he's doing really well. That's a lot of people liking your stuff.
Helps that his content is getting even better. Really felt out his own unique style of content.
I'm not sure if you're still subscribed, but our boy just hit 100k recently!
@@TheChronozoan Still not at a million. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
If he deserved a million subs he’d have them lol
Been watching Grim Beard's videos thanks to a recommendation from Mandalore and it just baffles me he only has 9k subscribers with the quality present here.
Maybe he pissed off some evil cosmic entity now cursing his videos, like the youtube algorithm.
same here, i've been spreading the word since :D
Who is Mandalore?
MandaloreGaming?
@@GeusGames yeah, there's a video he made, i think it was channel update where he made some yt recommendations. There I met the mister Grim here and Kreal, from KrealTube, great content from both :D
He reviews obscure games and has weird thumbnails. The results aren't a big surprise.
"weird thumbnails" - Weird? In that they're tasteful? Accurately and faithfully represent the content of the video? Are constructively branded and not a complete fucking eyesore? Or are they 'weird just because they don't have a gurning idiot mugging confusion and horror at something so poorly shot and/or framed that you wouldn't even -know- _be able to guess_ what the subject of the video was if it wasn't highlighted with a big red circle and arrow _and_ all too clearly spelled out in the ALL CAPS title along with "YUO WONT BELEEVE" "OMG" "3AM" GONE WRONG"
I don't really get the impression you're using 'weird' as underhanded way of saying 'crap' but I don't see what's 'weird' about them either... Maybe I'm just losing touch
11:53 I see that Fallout 4 anime mod is highly contagious and can be found even there, in least expected placelike this channel?
I dunno the anime mod would count as horror...
Just when work was getting boring. Nice
I'd love to hear what your thoughts are of "Deadly Premonition"
Also, don't discredit yourself... You're not the off-screen death. You're our hero, Grimbeard.
That it is the truest work of art?
Deadly premonition is such a good game that it might prove deadly for Grim to even attempt it.
With the way he unpackages the details of games would mean at least a 2 hour video.
So yes, I hope he does it.
Hey my new favourite youtuber!
Two days ago I find out City of Heroes/Villains is back from the dead. Just now, Grim Beard posts a new video. This may be the best week of my life. Ia Grim Beard!
This, Bloodrayne, Cold Winter, all big memories of after middle school.
The good days.
That “open road” line cracks me up every time.
21:56 This is Grim's way of telling us he's The Cat Lady.
Damn buddy it's like your picking obscure games directly from my gaming past! Gonna binge all your vids!
Your content pleases me.
Your channel appeases me and assuages my wrath.
3 years after this video was published, I now deign to comment and inform you that you officially get to live.
For now.
Saving older videos as a lil treat for myself later so I always have grim videos ♥️
Low-key has some of the best composed music in gaming.
I like this channel. I like pretty much everything about it. I don’t understand how it’s only gained 3k subs or so since I started watching but I kinda feel like once you break 10k you appear more in the ‘you might like’ lists and things will naturally moved along quicker. I really hope that happens soon!
Anyway, I remember enjoying the game but barely being able to remember anything else about it a year later. Now I know why...
Most underrated game reviews I've found. Thanks for what you do Grim.
By far the best reviews on UA-cam, happy to see you cover this game.
Amazing outro song, can't wait for you to post the full version!
Absolutely love The Suffering games. I hope one day THQ Nordic buys the IP and works on a proper remaster. I have a copy of each game on PC & PS2. Even have a prima guide for Ties That Bind. Still looking for good complete xbox copies.
A remaster is a must for this. I agree
hell yah. i gotsem for the xbox
Who owns the rights to the IP now that Midway is gone?
Warner Brothers
Me and my best friends started watching all your videos cheers to giving ups some good laughs stay grim 🥂
love your videos, man!
Man, your videos are so underrated, keep up the good work!
Going back to view one of your much older reviews and coming back to now shows how much you've improved as a reviewer, it's really amazing.
The graphical style and the dark setting remind me of Shadow Man, a great game setting-wise to be sure.
Dude, you're my favorite content creator and always will be. Keep on rocking in the free world! Doot-doodle-doot-doot... Doo-doo!
I've been waiting for this!
Ayooo new Grimbeard video. The enemy designs feel like they're giving Clivebarker/hell raiser vibe.
Wow I actually always thought he was involved with the games development. Turns out not at all.
Hey, Grim beard's back
tbh, i was scared that he had died
Cool. I was scared the Police finally caught him.
From looking at anime tiddies in fallout 4
I find it really surprising that you only have 9k subscribers. Your reviews are one of the best on UA-cam, along with Mandalore's.
Oh, what a lovely day.
I adore you and your work so much, I've named my new rat Grim. Thank you for loving them as much as I do 🐀❤.
God damn, that percussion music slaps.
To me, this game is perfect. I love the action, the way the story is beign told, and of course, the atmosphere. This game is among the top games/horror/horror action for me.
Also, i'd recommend a playthrough on impossible diffculty, as you won't drown in ammo there. And if you really some suffering, play evil impossible :D
Give this man more subs... and yeah,I wanna go back to 2004 and stop time. feels like the best days life had to offer are long gone
Oh god no: _The "This Is Vegas" cameo is THE most terrifying thing in this video._
"That's giving myself too much credit, I'm the body that they stumble upon after the fact, "
Mad feels.
Live fast and leave a sexy corpse, they say.
Your channel is great! I stumbled upon it on blid luck and I'm very happy I did so.
thank you for covering this. I respect your view, but to me, this is one of the best horror games.Mainly due to the sound design
You’ve become my favorite voice to lull me to sleep thanks pal!
I love you, goth man. You are the best dude
Always great to see another video from you, thanks for the awesome content! , still wanna see condemned 1 or 2 :D
This game feels so Clive Berker-esque. Creepy prison, monsters symbolising methodes of execution. It feels even more like something made by Barker than Undying to me.
I was thinking alot on the lines of Jericho or his visions of hell
@@GuyMontag0451 yeah, it's a shame that gameplay in Jericho was so bad because everything else was awesome. The story, locations, enemy design - top notch, but this is to be expected from Barker
@@DzikiWaclaw it was so close to being a good shooter. With more enemy variety and shorter areas I think it could have been a hit. The body horror was amazing. Loved the idea olbehind the first born etc
You should check out the obscure game called "The Devil Inside". It has such a strange concept, that I'm sure you'll find it interesting. Oh and the review was great as always ;)
Whenever somebody says “Obscure game” I get excited that they’re about to reference the Obscure series. Devil Inside is also great and I think he did do a review on it since you commented.
Love your reviews Grimbeard!
I think the gameplay works as part of the horror due to the main theme of the game being that of violence and how we express it. Whether as a means of discovery(killjoy), a craft to perfect (hermes),or just this burst of emotion we can’t rightly explain why we did so (Horace). Torque (the player ) by fighting his way through this menagerie of brutality he finds his own conclusion to what violence can be and how he personally uses it. That’s just the way I’ve come to see it of course and one can argue that spec ops the line may have done this better but I admittedly have not played it but nonetheless to each their own
I beat this game more then 100 times...I just love it soooo much...music,style,story...buy it on gog it is a blast
Bro no cap you're my favourite reviewer
I know that the spoilers issue has been discussed earlier but I for one would love you to go over the stories of games in more detail. Since you mostly review old games, there are people who have played them already or I'm guessing there are also quite a lot of people like me. I'm never going to play any of these older adventure games that I haven't already played back in the day but I'd love to know more of the story than just the basics. Of course I could go on and read about it myself but then I would be missing out on your take on the matter. Anyway, top content, keep it grim.
We took the club from dead to POPPIN!
I really loved this game when I had it for Xbox. I heard the second one was good but it was too similar to the first. I never got to play "The ties that bind" so I think I'll give it a download.
Great review
This is that good shit. Love your work man
Continuing my journey through these videos makes me sad it's going to end soon.
your videos are good
Thank yoo
This guy says he isn't talking down. You are a good person.
Alright, I was on the fence before. I thought I only might be a raving fanboy of this channel.
Then he mentioned Obscure and now I’m all in.
You know, as tired as I am of the reboot trend, this is one series I would like to see rebooted and re-imagined.
If they focus on the good things and push it more towards survival horror and further away from action horror, I may really enjoy it.
Thank you for the video
Omg you're back my friend
why am I rewatching review of the suffering ?! Oh because it's excellent?! Oh and because the music in the beginning minutes of the review is riveted in my brain?! Share the background track pls !
I loved the hell out of this game when I was 19. To continue to love it, I've decided I don't ever need to replay it again.
Why
I LOVE The Suffering games. I feel like thst generation is just full of hidden gems because there was a lot more originality and experimentation.
Uhhhh... Little Critter reference? Hell yes. Also, that Eric Sparrow joke was top notch.
I wish more people knew how awesome your content is.
I always liked the suffering. I see you gripes with it though. I keep going back to it though.
I know I liked the game as a kid, though I was way to freaking scared of both of these games. I remember I played on normal, *never died* during Suffering 1 and was terrified I was like playing an Iron Man version of the game, given I had no ideea how the respawn system works. Dunno why that train of throught crossed my mind though.
Now that I'm older and 14 years have passed, I do have to properly play through this one and its sequel sometime.
EDIT: Whoop whoop, 3 years later, in 2022, I have finally finished The Suffering 1.
Amazing content as always man
I can understand your problems with the game. I also think that it should be less action but the atmosphere in the whole game is great and i love it because of that.
It always brings a smile to my face when I here someone make an Eric Sparrow reference
Nice video! I usually don't play that much games but I like few things here, especially the audio part. My question is what is the full name of that experimental instrument on 19:18 .... Sounds like stamen phone but I guess it's not that. Thanks!!!
I still like the first game. Has a lot of little secrets and quite a bit to explore.
Usually the levels were sometimes only gave you one of two alternatives, but the level design and geography were real well done. Everything looped and met back at the prison and branched towards the camp and the east side of the island. I thought that was the game's strongest aspect.
Sure, it's a dated game by now, but it made me go back to it again. A lot of small details, like sergei's secret stash and cannabis farm hidden in the woods a 'live and let live' sign and Killjoy's many patients laying around the property. There's way more, but I bet 90 percent of people that played the game missed them.
I think the sequel tried to address some of the issues by adding a two weapon limit and not letting you hold painkillers. Honestly, the most entertaining oarts of that game wwre the two killers; they just chewed the scenery so well.
I honestly feel like this game, like most of Midway's titles, is just fun to play. They always nail the gameplay on some level. Even if you don't feel it's revolutionary, it's never boring and that's important.
But like you said, it has a lot of small details that builds it up, which in my opinion is it's strongest aspect. The game really builds up Carnate Island's history and the spirit system is an effective way to tell you these stories instead of just relying on notes (though it has plenty of those too, often making the scenes redundant, but it can help provide clearer context on what you saw in the scenes, with the scenes adding more emotional depth to it by letting you see how everyone was affected and how they reacted, like the miners who were left to starve/suffocate in the mines by the guards).
As far as personal story goes, it's nothing exceptional. It's a basic plot in that regard, but it works because Torque isn't the only character. Nor are the island's residents, living or dead. The whole island's a character and it's a good one.
a highschool friend let me borrow this and its sequel. we lost touch and i forgot to give them back this was 15 yrs ago. still havent played them.
Aaand I just found two new music artists to get into. Very cool.
It's a game that wants to be survival horror and also wants to be an action power fantasy, where the main character is an unbeatable badass who turns into an even more unstoppable killing machine when in any danger. These two concepts just cannot co-exist.
Bloodyrayne, for all its faults, understood the action-horror genre it was working in. The Suffering is effectively in the same genre as Bloodrayne but doesn't understand that.
This game for me really is more then a sum of it's parts with lost potential, there's a lore/story behind this game somewhere that wasn't fully realized, evertime I play it it impresses in it's confidence in it's game design and knowing what it wants to be, but it needed more time, also of the many times that I've played it strangley enough I never drew comparisons to it and other popular horror games, it just always felt like for me that it was a mid tier game doing its own thing with a slightly too strict a budget and time frame to be fully realized
Wish we had !ore of these brave and confident efforts in videogame development these days
the weird foetus with bulging eyes that sometimes shows up midway through the game as one of Torque's visions is genuinely disturbing.
this game is genuinely unsettling and that's why I respect it the way that I do. i feel as though this is Midway's last hurrah and they made it apparent.
Its just... really hard to feel scared when you dont feel vulnerable
I have to say, i miss such games so much. To me, it's realy a shame that not many games of this genre are coming out. The suffering one and yeeeaaah even two, Manhunt, Condamned, Silent Hill, System Shock. All these games have a spezial place in my heart.
Thanks for your channel by the way.
tommy guns are temporally unlocked; they're cool in any time period
I saw Waxworks in your intro.
Waxworks video please.
I had no idea this game was set in Maryland. Pedantic point: Maryland never adopted the electric chair as a form of judicial execution.
This as a fun game in its day. Thanks!
Found your review cause i wanted to watch some review of the suffering. Not many content creators made one.
Good points. I do not agree on how you feel the game, but critisism is solid and i can agree on many poits you presented. Subscribed.
And i need to replay this game soon.
Oh and thank you for using widescreen patch. Other reviewer i saw used 4:3 stretched to 16:9 and it was painful to watch.
And solutions to sound problems can be discovered on gog forums and on PCgamingwiki. Sound in this game is fucked. Something to do with surround sound stuff. It need another 3rd party sound software to output sounds correctly on modern hardware.
To be honest, I actually like the idea of horror themed action game. The Suffering for me faltered in that it didn't really seemed to commit to the idea. Horror atmosphere was there, but it somehow lacked the impact, and the action was okay, but it lacked punchiness. In my opinion, making ammo less abundant, monsters more dangerous and having more of the ideas like with the light and slayers, it could have worked really well. The way it is, it is decent enough game, enjoyable, arguably somewhat original. I would really love to have the ideas in this given a reboot with a more clear vision (closest I can think of would be gory and less phantastical Remnant, for example, with a more of a focus on story).
Also, love your channel, let the goth gamer nation prevail :D !
They need to bring this game back so badly 💯
I love his op song low key fire 🔥
One of the best games ever made in my opinion, but so underrated that hurts
Winston did an mazing job.
lol, I loved *all* of the games you mentioned as "luke-warm" critical responses.
I loved RE: Outbreak, even though it wasn't until over a decade and a modified Japanese ROM later that I was able to play it online (even solo it's fun), Obscure 2 was one of my earliest and most enjoyed horror experiences, and Silent Hill 4: The Room is the only Silent Hill game I've ever personally played and I loved it. Granted, all of these I was able to play with my sibling. Even Silent Hill 4, just... you know... not real coop.
Technically every source online says that Outbreak did not have same-system coop, but my memories say it happened and I've learned from a recent election that how I feel matters more than the obvious facts, so I'm gonna stick with believing it until I can come up with a better opinion to save face.
But really, I loved those games, and I loved The Suffering, as well. I even replayed it not too far back by modifying the PC controls to work with a controller so I didn't have to rely on the really outdated Xbox version (or play with mouse + keyboard, because I don't play third-person games that way now shush, eat your breakfast). I'm not really the main target for horror games, though. I love a good story and I love coop games or games with AI partners. Fear is not my goal with horror. I like a little bit of it, but most have boring bland unimaginative gameplay and near-constant tension, often caused by enemies that just instakill you, which is as frustrating as it is tense. So big shocker I loved all of these more forgiving games. Sucks that more people didn't, but I'd argue that just because they didn't do well commercially they're still all pretty well-received games after the fact. I rarely hear anyone complain about Silent Hill 4, but then again I'd just plug my ears the moment I thought the conversation was turning negative, so... yeah. Suck it, whiners.
7:30 “You buy this for the scare and atmosphere factor which cannot be beat!” Tell that to DUSK, Soma and Fran Bow. Especially the former on Duskmare difficulty or Cero Miedo when the 1 hit kill rule of Duskmare gets annoying.
I've been binging your content and have yet to comment but I just wanted to say I've enjoyed all your reviews, while having my disagreements I can appreciate your take. I do have to question why exactly you avoided using the transformation mechanic, if for no other reason because you didn't see it as "necessary"? I mean I personally don't find playing games to be a necessity but simply as a thing I want to do and so generally if I find a game mechanic fun I'd use it despite potentially having a conventionaly simpler way of achieving a similar result. Just curious, great review.
Sick ass video man!
Love this one.
Also, you seem to like the same music as me. (Black metal and aggro/industrial stuff, which is pretty rare, at least here in the us.)
it's called satanic music and it's lame as fuck
@@dominichills6452 That's like his opinion man
Oh yes, soundtrack and sound design for this game are really outstanding.
Thanks for yet another great review
lol, I know Your Twitch channel. Cool to see You in comments section ;D
Well, you know what they say. Grimbeard appears, Grimbeards is watched.
i only needed 2 min to see that this is dope!!! thanks time to watch a playthrough
OH GOD THE GRAPHICS OH GOD IM GONNA
i clicked so fast that i cant even see comments yet
Thanks for informing us.
@@slipgatetourist4929 you're welcome. its very precious information
@@slipgatetourist4929 Yeah really, save the comments section for the information utterly crucial to our most fundamental survival, for sharing of which the comments section on UA-cam is otherwise strictly, exclusively used..!
Oh my, play it on Hard. You ll be left with less ammo, rage mode is pretty much mandatory if you want to progress, same with grenades.
I play this game on Impossible myself. A much better experience in my opinion, because enemies have a higher damage tolerance and do way more damage to the player. This combined with the overall tone of the game makes gameplay feel 10x more intense.
Though I don't agree overall with your assessment of the plot or tone, I will say that I played this game once or twice when I was a kid. This was back when I could barely handle horror. It was a little difficult to get past my hesitation, but I *did* complete the game more than once back then.
So while I don't feel it was a disappointment at all, if you're looking for "scares", this game doesn't really have it unless you're a 4-year-old. There are certainly some scary moments, the whole game has a great horror *atmosphere,* but it rarely consistently scares you. I think it's best to look at this more as a action title with horror as its set-dressing. It deals with brutal themes and you're not really playing a hero, but you can redeem yourself or damn yourself accordingly, and the setting is a really fun one to play around in. I mean seriously, how many great story titles have you busting out of prison? Like as part of the plot, not backstory bullshit like that one (of many) trash Silent Hill game(s). Even less that have monsters getting in your way.
I would argue that where the plot of the character is simplified, the character of the island and its history is *rich* to make up for it. Carnate Island has a dark past that the game is constantly trying to show you and it's not to scare you, that's the wrong way to look at it, it's to immerse you in the setting. I wish more games would put that kind of focus on the world. It may be why I liked Silent Hill 4 so much. All of the places you go to have some sort of significance to the main antagonist and you will learn about them and their history. There may be exceptions, but I'm pretty sure they all matter.
I can't play a horror game that doesn't have either great gameplay or a great story. I can't even watch a horror game that doesn't have something going on with the latter. I want to be intrigued. Carnate Island intrigues me. Torque's story isn't unimportant, it's the driving force of the game and your interactions with the people you encounter (ghostly or otherwise), but it's intentionally put to the side of the immersion of the setting. It comes up only as much as it needs to in order to satisfy your immersion and give you some choices to make. That's entirely fine by me. What would have sucked is if there were *nothing* to make up for Torque's simple story, which is what so many action titles fail to do: give you something to balance it out.
But that's just me. I've wanted to play the sequel for a long time, ever since I learned about it. Never knew it even existed as a kid, so I couldn't exactly support the developers with a sale. I've had no luck getting it to run on PC, either, though I haven't tried very recently with my totally different hardware and experience.
...why would you use the meelee weapons?
because firstly, when you're a 16year old noob for whom this is the first third person shooter ever, you run out of ammo quite a lot.
and secondly, and MAINLY, learning to reliably kill burrowers just with the shiv is SO. INCREDIBLY. SATISFYING. and the learning process itself is SO. INCREDIBLY. SATISFYINGLY. SCARY.
EDIT: The sound bug where weapons and enemies go silent for some time also ocurred in the original CD version (or at least the "Prison is hell" edition, which I'm not sure how it differs from the one without the subtitle)
You need proper old pc with eax support or use one of modern fixes to make audio dimensional (that fixes disappearing sound too)
Your reviews are excellent omg. I loved that game even if it was flawed.
u NEver know, will u'll see another Grim Beard video, or he'll finally give up
It's a sweet little action thriller. I never realized that people can actually perceive it as a horror game, lol.
Oh, by the way, have you played Ecstatica? People tend to laugh at the way it looks, but I find it one of the most atmospheric horror games ever made. The combination of somewhat lighthearted visuals and deeply sinister undertones is really a strong mix in my eyes.