@@octaviogonzalez8794 Lovage beating Leffen is clearly an anomaly, since that doesn't happen anymore. But Leffen has two years of dominance over SFat, which pretty clearly seems to demonstrate his superiority
Hard to believe these two would go around 50-50 at a point. Seriously, Leffen's mindgames are at an ascended level by this point. It probably has to do with him branching out to DBFZ, it gave him access to big brain IQ plays.
André Rodríguez dudes been bodying Sfat this hard since before DBFZ was a thing, and Leffen has played traditional fighting games at a high level for a long time as well, like Killer Instinct
@@reisjames1 Yeah I know Leffen is really good/a beast at a good number of FGs. However, it seems to me that ever since DBFZ, something clicked. He has the Fox ditto on lockdown. Every time he plays SFAT, the results get worse for the latter.
I'm really on board with Hbox not trying at all to seem nice, cruel Hbox is funnier and I couldn't stand the bullshit nice guy act. I can live with his playstyle without hating on him if he's not pretending to be the wholesome good guy savior of melee as well.
Leffen is playing amazing as he has been since evo, but it seems like SFat has a mental block of some sort. He looks scared of Leffen and, as the commentators were saying, his punishes were not as clean as they should have been due to his mentality being so negative.
I never get tired of watching Leffen absolutely annihilate sFat
SFat hasn't beat Leffen in over 2 years. It's actually mind boggling how much better Leffen is
Well better sure but just alot better at the ditto really. "Damn Lovage beat leffen its crazy how much better he is" lol
Octavio Gonzalez not even close, leffen is not only better in thee ditto but also way better overall against most matchups imo, I think most agree.
@@fullsend4976 Yeah I agree too but its better not to use inuit logic to describe it
@@octaviogonzalez8794 Lovage beating Leffen is clearly an anomaly, since that doesn't happen anymore. But Leffen has two years of dominance over SFat, which pretty clearly seems to demonstrate his superiority
@@octaviogonzalez8794 But Lovage only beat him once. Zach gets creampied Everytime
Remember when casters would call this a rivalry, lol.
Last time he beat Leffen was press start 2015
Honestly leffen is the best fox player of all time. He is what hax$ was trying to become.
To be fair, Hax was doing incredibly well until his hand injury. He might be a Fox much like Leffen if not for that.
Hax was called the nextt god before his injury lol
Guys the last sentence implies that hax WOULD be at leffen level if he had not broke his hands waveshining a jigglypuff.
I miss Hax :'v
Leff has been better then hax for a long time
Jesus, man. This is just a steamroll at this point.
"The hot nothing"
I've never seen someone so scared of another player, he's gotta get over this Leffen problem.
Sfat has an everyone in top 10 problem, but the ditto is more polarizing
@@Chizypuff Sure, but Leffen vs Sfat is probably the most lopsided matchup right now other than Mang0 vs Wizzrobe.
@@Galladefan777 nah, this is/has been way worse than Mango vs. Wizzy. Wizzy never got steamrolled this much, although he has never taken a set.
Hard to believe these two would go around 50-50 at a point. Seriously, Leffen's mindgames are at an ascended level by this point. It probably has to do with him branching out to DBFZ, it gave him access to big brain IQ plays.
André Rodríguez dudes been bodying Sfat this hard since before DBFZ was a thing, and Leffen has played traditional fighting games at a high level for a long time as well, like Killer Instinct
Basically he's just good at the ditto. Probably the best in the world
@@reisjames1 Yeah I know Leffen is really good/a beast at a good number of FGs. However, it seems to me that ever since DBFZ, something clicked. He has the Fox ditto on lockdown. Every time he plays SFAT, the results get worse for the latter.
Leffen misses Armada so much...
Skyline8180 ang mango misses ppmd so much that is why he plays falco, but yesterday switch to 🦊 finally
@@Faster471 ppmd will come back
Armada will be back one day
this matchup is actually just a joke at this point, like it doesn't even feel like serious tournament gameplay anymore cause it's so one sided
Games start at 3:45
I guess I forgot to close my pornhub tab before I started watching melee again
leffen play is so crispy
Leffen is just way tooo good
I'm really on board with Hbox not trying at all to seem nice, cruel Hbox is funnier and I couldn't stand the bullshit nice guy act. I can live with his playstyle without hating on him if he's not pretending to be the wholesome good guy savior of melee as well.
Well I don't know him but he usually seems honest about how he feels, both when he is a jerk and when he tries to be a nice guy.
a lvl 3 mage Pretty funny guy.
Only bts would turn a quick 3-0 into a 20min vod smh
Leffen is playing amazing as he has been since evo, but it seems like SFat has a mental block of some sort. He looks scared of Leffen and, as the commentators were saying, his punishes were not as clean as they should have been due to his mentality being so negative.
Big Leff
Why does Sfat sucks against Leffen? He definitely has a Leffen problem lol
COMBATACE1 the Leffen vs Fox matchup is 100 - 0
I think everyone has a leffen problem
@@jarroddobben wizzrobe just won
@@illuminatist33 ok, yeah true you got me there, but like, you know what I mean
@@jarroddobben yeah. I mean. Leffen won evo LOL
ffs, Hungrybox still has no social awareness. unnecessary shrieking making me turn down the volume. Not everything is about you dude.