You know you are a scary dude when people who have been enemies for millenia and really, really,really hate each other decide to ignore that and gang up on you.
Tenebrae, the best son ever But he is not because he has never done anything good in his life, only atrocities, he even killed his parents when he was a child. >_>
It's hard to imagine him being gone and the galaxy finally being free. He's loomed so large over everything that's happened over the past 1,400+ years, it's hard to imagine. I hope Revan is smiling somewhere
Agreed so much, I was disappointed he didn't play some part in Vitiate's final death considering he spent his entire life trying to stop him and failed so many times.
AJ Rice How do we know he is a red skinned sith? We know his father is but his mother said to be of low origin. I assume she was just a human servant/slave.
mRG Well, in the novel "Revan", before he created the first Voice of the Emperor, Scourge meets him face to face. Describes him as having eyes as black as the void of empty space (and probably red skin because he's at least half Pureblood)
The frame of Valkorion when he stands in front of the glass of his throne room and looks at the void of space, it looks as if he is ruling over the universe instead of a mere planet.
I saw this theory that he’s actually manipulating everything behind the scenes and manipulated palpatine to make the Death Star to fuel his death ritual. This also explains why darth tenebrous wanted to destroy the force, to cut off vitiates connection from it so he couldn’t kill everything
1) I find quote " A god has no family " very interesting . One of the main Star Wars themes in general , is "family" . Valkorion saying that , is not just an amazing evil thing to say , but also a very symbolic thing in this universe . Reminds me when Sidious tells Luke " Your faith in your friends is yours" . 2) Tenebrae > Sidious
That is right. This expansion was made partly because of the theme of family in Star Wars. People in shows and games who are shown to live a longer life then normally possible always have an interesting view of it. Either longing for death because there was no one else with them or wanting to outlive them all. Living so long often changes a person. The secrets in this world not yet ready to be learned.
“There is no death, only the Force... and I am it’s master.” Not many Star Wars characters incite fear like Valkorian. Sidious threatens you by saying, “I will kill you.” Valkorian makes you a promise by saying, “I WILL kill you.”
chilling notion. his father calls him immortal but he is not invulnerable. so is he still out there looming and watching. " remember me" was some of his final words to us.... and amazing job as always
It totally possible to become immortal in Star Wars but that by now means implies invincibility. A human soul become immortal through brainwave transfer to a machine theoretically but if the computer is ever harmed in a way that could damage you. But as long as a fraction of your brainwaves survives on a damaged hard drive you are still technically alive and this immortal, but not invincible.
Tenebrae got reclassified as a Force Entity not too long ago, making him truly immortal and unremovable, you can destroy his connection to the physical world for a time, but he will always return now.
@@KaunPrime scary thought. *Spoiler incoming* the new expansion elaborated kotfe, while you were busy facing valkorion, his former original wrath and one of his "children" kira carsen were looking looking for his original body to destroy, as it is the anchor to this world and tenebrae, they successfully destroyed it, but it left both in a coma state for about a year until the former jedi grandmaster satele shan "healed" them unknowingly taking in an unknown curse, now she and some other jedi who helped are sick, and it's starting to spread like a plague, and even kira are starting to hear whispers fearing the infected ones are communicating with each other. The scary idea that a single thought, when spread to others is now becoming a reality once more. That's what opted kira and lord wrath to look for the outlander. The sickness reminded me of the Bar'senthor and the plaguemaster, how some jedi disturbed terrak morrhage's tomb. Until one of them was taken over by morrhage himself, who has been dead for about a millenia, and became lord vivicar
He really is a great character, I felt bad killing him.Not ending his life, but ending his role in the story, I feel that he had so much more depth and potential as a villain than he was used
@@TheMightyPizzo Yeah, d3athbyn1ght telling people they can't have fun, thus you can't have fun. You're supposed to be miserable and depressive, so I guess everybody in the world has a capacity of a rock.... Interesting. Just enjoy what you enjoy... If someone tells you to enjoy or dislike something don't listen to them, only listen to what you find enjoyable....
@@anotherbloodyfanwriter1941 no, when you destroy him in your mind you are erasing him form existences, it isnt a shell or a puppet, its the essence of what he is your killing, its his final death
I still don't think Vitiate can ever be truly defeated. When one goes beyond the need for a physical vessel, you're immortal. I truly think he achieved immortality and may very well be the power that Sidious was looking for before his death.
I mean, when you're over 1400 years old you've "Seen some shit" and I hope you'd be wise or able to at least give some helpful advice to someone later in your life 😂
I have the same opinion about outlander. 1. Non-force users can't be canon, because it is 100% force users story. 2. We have 4 force users in SWTOR: barsen'thor, Hero of Tython, Darth Nox and Wrath. So why Wrath? Someone would tell that Hero of Tython was in the cinematic trailers so he is canon. But I doubt It. If Bioware had used another class in trailer it would be obvious that this class(USED IN THE CINEMATIC) is canon. But Jedi Knight isn't canon for 100%, because Star Wars films/games etc. have usually story like One Big and Bad Guy vs young nobody who become Hero and kick his ass. JK as character for trailers was the most neutral choice. Ok. So who is canon? 1. Hero of Tython still possible can be canon, because he was executioner of Vitiate on Dromund Kaas and It wouldn't be anything unexpected to us that he is Outlander. He was also apprentice of Vitiate for a short time after failed first try to kill him. 20% chances to be The Outlander. 2. Barsen'thor was a somebody who cured Galaxy from diseases and influence of Vitiate, but I don't think this character is canon as outlander. He didn't fight Vitiate/Valkorion in person and I think that he went to unknown regions of galaxy trying to find usefull knowledge. 10% chances to be The Outlander. 3. Darth Nox was VERY SIMILAR to Emperor. Why? A). He consumed ghosts to gain more and more power. B). He was called DRAGON on Nar Shaddaa! "Kneel before The DRAGON of Zakuul" sounds now even more interesting. C). In one of last conversations with Valkorion he said something like this: "Thanaton underestimated you, but I'm not". It suggest us that Emperor observed Nox long time before he became member of Dark Council. D). Darth Nox had a similar LIFE STORY to Valkorion: Born as a slave, became one of the most powerfull Siths, Both used to consume other beings to be more powerfull and in the end become emperor. 25% chances to be The Outlander 4. Finally Lord Wrath. A). He was PERSONAL executioner of Sith Emperor and he was very close to him in this way. He freed him in his personal story and Vitiate/Valkorion started making him his superweapon - Vessel of the Supreme Power. B). Vitiate/Valkorion very often told that Wrath is VERY SPECIAL to him. When he told that he will kill him last Valkorion didn't mind only that he will liberate all galaxy then kill Wrath, He also planed to use him as puppet and finally take his body as a new voice. C). As you said: Master - Apprentice and Apprentice kills his Master. D). According to 1 nad 2... KOTFE and KOTET is story of Valkorion's FAMILY. Valkorion saw potential in Wrath, potental he didn't see in his own sons. In the dark side Chapter I of Kotet Senya says: "You are truly son he always wated to have". Valkorion's sons were his executioners, Wrath was his executioner too but Wrath always was BETTER than Valkorion's sons, He truly was son he always wanted to have!!! Chances to be The Outlander 45%(or even more)!!! Lord Wrath as The Outlander would be the most PERSONAL story and KOTFE/KOTET is VERY PERSONALL because It is about familly of The Emperor and Wrath was part of this family!!!
I totally agree with that verdict. Another line that was mentioned in chapter one of kotfe. When Valkorian mentions you are the champion of fear. Fear is a heavy dark side concept. I feel that rules out both jedi classes. This leaves Nox and Wrath. Nox is someone who as you mentioned is a carbon copy of Valkorian, even the fact that both use the force to accomplish their goals and were very poor in the form of light saber combat. So Nox is ruled out due to the several cut scenes where the character has to be rather efficient at light saber combat. As you say I completely agree that Lord Wrath is the outlander. After all he was the emperor''s wrath, the champion of fear and conqueror of Valkorian's every challenge. In the end becoming Valkorian's executioner.
Take a look at the last words of the Emperor to the Outlander. This is the key to solution of the mystery. Jedi Knight, "and you, a lone Jedi, hounding me without aim or purpose" Jedi consular "and you, a lone Jedi, attempting to cure the galaxy from my influence," Sith Inquisitor, "and you, a lone sith , bloated with the power ", then all 3 (JK, JC and SI):" I forged you into being worthy of the eternal throne. Without me you are nothing. " Sith Warrior: "And you, a lone Sith, betrayed by your master and left for dead.", And then "I gave you a second life, anointed you as my Wrath, forged into being worthy of eternal throne. Without me you are nothing. " When we defeated Revan and the emperor was freed or whatever the SW was the only class he addressed directly the others not a word. When we defeated Valkorion and he was close to death SW was the only class Valkorion addressed specific dialogue. I think that already it is obvious that SW is The Outlander!
Indeed, I would have loved the last scene before you kill him to be this way: Wrath: I'll miss you... Tenebrae: I have always been so proud of you...I'll love you always...
Ah, the bittersweet memories... I don't think that, from Warrior storyline perspective, anyone else incited such contradictory feelings from me. Had it not been the choice between the Galaxy and Valkorion, my sw would have remained loyal to him. He was *the* charismatic villain who had the gift of coming across as wise and, in a way , *reasonable* (moreso as Valkorion). Even if receiving relationship advise from him was strange
Your Sith Warrior: "I don't know how to talk to her man. She's so daunting !" Valkorian: *"Tremel didn't train a bitch ! Make yo move nigga !"* 😂😂😂 I'm so sorry, but Valkorian saying this would have been the greatest thing ever.
Honestly a similar thing for me, like he was such a good character that it was almost tempting to be loyal to him. But I was also playing my character that is meant to be the ruler, to claim power and learn from others before there is nothing more to learn, and only to remove them to remove a threat to his own rule.
I LOVED playing the Revan and Ziost expansions, especially as Wrath to get that special dialogue from Vitiate. Sorry Sidious, but Vitiate takes the top spot as my favorite Sith/Dark Side user. I actually learned things from his wisdom.
Billy Siravo The epilogue story only really makes sense with either the knight or the wrath, and personally I prefer the wrath. Those two are the only ones that really share anything of a personal connection to Tenebrae
But is really hilarious to play with non force user especially after you kill him with a goddamn blaster. Blastech will have a good selling this Emperor killing blaster
@@laisphinto6372 Random Mandalorian interrupts the final battle between Satelle, Bastila, Revan and Vitiate. *Shoots the Emperor dead* "Yeehaw, chucklefucks"
It's crazy to think both KOTORs were technically a prequel for this guy. An undying shadow to bend, break, and if neccessary consume the entire galaxy at his whim. Such a great character. Buying into his own godly dogma. Not seeing the weakness his fear presented, and the opportunities his opposition had thanks to his arrogance. With a great ending to even the most powerful of Sith too. As like many before Tenebrae...in the end...he was nothing..
Everytime I watch this I always shiver when he says "A god has no family." And I almost always cry at the very end because it's just a really good line lol.
The thing is. No matter how evil he was. He was right that without "Us" The galaxy will spiral into chaos. He did in some way bring order to the sith and the Republic. The fear for him kept everyone mostly in line.
True. It's once again in line with nature, as the Sith tend to be. It's like celestial bodies. The smaller things always revolve around the larger (or rather heavier) ones in an orderly fashion. Without the big ones, the small ones would either collide and destroy each other, or get flung out into the void to die a cold and lonely death. It would be chaos.
@@madrazz8888 I honestly think he survived just barely and lived out his immortality as different personalities over the rest of galactic history. He might have actually become an Artist, a Farmer and quite likely a simple man like he told the HoT 👀
Whatever people say about this game. It had some great storylines and the eternal storyline had beautiful animations. Also this video is incredibly well done
@@Galland780 Do you not know how Angels and Archangels work? Angel is just another term for Lesser God dating back mellenia, They function as the children of God in every religion they exist within. The concepts of Angels and Archangels date back to the old Mediterranean religions. Look at it this way. God/Allah are middle eastern parallels to Over Deities of Polytheistic religions of Antiquity. With Their Angles acting as The Children of God. With Arch Angels acting as the most powerful beings in existence underneath the Over Deity. Before The Birth of Monotheism when Judaism and ancient Semetic Religions were Polytheistic, Angels were referred to as Lesser Gods, that's why many angels act as manifestations of the natural world. But instead of being born in a natural way like in other religions. They were born in more unique ways. A la by God's own hand. Don't make a claim when you don't know what you're talking about bro.
@@bobross9581 and we don't consider Allah having a family because he has no one. He is The One and has no kids. He cannot be impregnate and can't be pregnant. That's what is Muslims have been thought. Unless you're a Muslim yourself, then any claims you made about the teachings is false. And just to be clear, I was literally talking about Islam, not Christianity if that's what makes you confuse
Takes weeks of constructing story , editing , re editing , re watching , fixing , again and again until I have no problems with it . I could make videos almost everyday but I prefer quality over quantity . I'm glad you enjoyed it
"quality over quantity" that's why your videos are so awesome. We wait for one video for even half a year but when it comes out it's always worth the wait. PS: I wanted to ask what software do you use for recording? I use Fraps when I wanted to record something but when I wanted to do something bigger that required more material I soon ran out of HDD space.
I can't stop watching this, Valkorion just seems so badass and powerful and the music is so beautiful. I can see my potential listening to this or I can see some villains tragic backstory
Close, but no cigar. Valkorion's greatest weakness, his fear, is what fueled his downfall. As part of his gambit to cheat death once and for all, he poured *all* of his will, his power, his spirit into the Outlander in an attempt to claim their body as his own and secure himself unopposed in the galaxy. His gambit failed, and the very core essence of his being was struck down. Like love, without a center to hold his body together, it withered, and died.
i really love to believe that valkorion is out there somewhere, being a farmer or something. just living his life, chilling, as he has been elevated to more than a mere being but truly became a god. the defeat by the outlander maybe taught him that ruling the galaxy and such were only trouble.
All those years, all that power...and still lost. Villains just have to dialogue instead of just going for the killing blow. Gotta love it when writers do that every time.
It is amazing that he finally shows signs of true anger and fear only when he KNOWS that he is about to die and also that this time, there is no coming back...
Amazing as always and it is really hard to imagine he is gone but I still believe his terror has not ended and it never shall end! I also still believe he could be snoke and for everyone else that loves Vitiate I hope he is alive
Nathan the orc slayer de Wet it's unlikely that he'll be Snoke. As you know, Disney has done away with the old EU, even though they cherry pick and steal ideas from the EU. I honestly feel that Snoke is someone new. These Snoke theories have gotten way outta hand. Now fans suspect that everyone could be Snoke
You continue to amaze me. Here I thought that nothing would surpass "God Awakens". I was wrong. A true masterpiece. It's amazing that fan made tribute can hype up more than official movie trailers. You have my respect and my compliments.
I still remember when a trilogy set in the Old Republic was mentioned a lot after the aftermath. People were very much shuffling the fancast for Revan between Keanu Reeves and Christian Bale. What times when there was still hope to see this period on the big screen 🥲
Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior are both important in Vitiate's plot. JK became a weapon for him for some time but he manages to break free and ultimately destroy his vessel. As for Sith warrior, was saved by Vitiate's servants and did his will until Shadow of Revan.
I agree with you they are both important In Vitiates plot. But i feel like everything involving Vitiate since Shadow of Revan has been far more personal for the SW simply because in his eyes Vitiate screwed him and was planning to kill him all along. And on top of that it also became clear that everything the SW had done for Vitiate before was all to make things easier for Vitiate to kill him and everyone else. He feels betrayed by Vitiate and wants to stop him and get revenge for himself as much as for the Empire.
Just thought I would say that I really enjoy your videos and that you did a great job on this one too, it really reminded me why Vitiate is my favourite character is Swtor maybe even all of Star Wars
So guys I think entire story,which started from long ago KOTOR finally finished with Vitiate death.Revenge and justice for all characters in KOTOR, KOTOR 2,TOR is over.Game is over.At least for me.
Yeah the game feels pretty much over to me now as well. I don't think there is much of a story left to tell unless they invent a new threat beyond Jedi and Sith. As for the whole eternal alliance thing I think it should disband now that the threat of Valkorian is gone.
Because of the double xp event going that ends tomorrow for the past month have been replaying all of the old republic online class quests from the beginning. Fantastic videos the voice actress for the female with warrior is fantastic.
"There is no death, there`s only the force." These are the last few words of the Jedi code. Tenebrae took these words, which are a sanctuary to the Jedi and declared him to be the Master of the force. That´s the proof and a perfect example of how Tenebrae disrespected other cultures.
Shrek I agree, Anakin at his full potential would destroy Vitiate like he was a speck of dust Remember, he was supposed to take The Father’s place which meant Anakin was just a strong or stronger than The Father
@@aydenstewy Viviate beated Revan who was the best force user/duelist in old republic era, and he did it even WITHOUT using his lightsaber, plus he killed his first sith lord at the age of 13 and Marka Ragnos instantly made him sith lord. Btw I know that full potential Anakin would beat Viviate just wanted to say that Viviate was not very far from full potential anakin, powerwise.
Makes me cry, seeing the Eternal family strike down their once-was-their father (Emperor Vitiate), I suspect that Arcann knew that Valkorian was possessed.
He is not gone forever If he really died he went to a place called the Void. This where all darkside beings go after they perish. (assuming they dont return as a ghost). It is possible, and it happend a couple of times, that those beings can be conjured and brought back into the world of the living using rituals. So technically if a force user wants to resurrect him it is possible. To sum up: - He is still existing somewhere - He could technically return at any time I dont know if this is realistic, especially if we consider, that he was not a simple force user. He has been confirmed to be a force entity. But i think this will only improve his chances to return. P.S. did you see the purple beam of energy that left his body when the outlander struck him down? Similar to the one when he left Yavin 4.
Something he, Sidious, and Nihilus all shared. They weren’t just of the dark side, they WERE the dark side. Great voids in the force, and of these, Tenebrae was the most all-encompassing.
I have my doubts that Vitiate is truly dead. He is probably sitting on some dark throne somewhere laughing at his ultimate plot to trick the galaxy into thinking he is dead.
Robert Bloom Well, I read somewhare that Vitiate's TRUE death was around 67 BBY and ir this is correct, the he is not dead, but probably severely weakened.
Robert Bloom Well, I read somewhare that Vitiate's TRUE death was around 67 BBY and if this is correct, then he is not dead, but probably severely weakened
@@blackshogun272 I don't think this is likely because while their respective modus operandi were extremely similar in some areas, they differ in other key areas. Also, Vitiate relied on Dark Side Rituals to feed his power, while Palpatine relied on his own raw power. No rituals, no magicks just the pure energy of the Dark Side that he incarnates since the day he was born.
What if he looked like an Egyptian Pharaoh with red eye lining and symbols across his body with eyes that drive you mad if you stare too long. Dang, making him sound more and more like a god 🤣
I really see how well the Wrath fits, but honestly it's obviously meant for the Jedi Knight. I really liked my Consular the best playing through this story, and not just because my Shadow is my main, but because I like the Female Consular's voice.
i feel it more personal for the jedi knight because the jedi knight it the one whose live goal was to end him the wrath didnt even meet the emperor until voss and after that only talked to him in shdow of revan
считаю это твоей лучшей работой! при просмотре этого шедерва я получил такой багаж эмоций который мне не дали ни Дисней с их ср*ным каноном ни прочие материалы по этой замечательной вселенной. ты лучший Дуду! I think this is your best work! when viewing this masterpiece, I got such a baggage of emotions that neither Disney with their f*cking Canon nor other materials on this wonderful universe gave me. you are the best Dudu!
Many say sidious is stronger than valkorian, perhaps that's true. Perhaps not. There is 1 thing for certain that I know, valkorian is the heart of sith. He is the darkness to light, the hatred to love. He is the true meaning of sith, he had the passion and rage to become it, that was his destiny
Carlos Zenteno also you should get information on sidious from the expanded universe and other sources because the films do not really show how dangerous he was
"Life is as empty without terror as without love."
But tough chaos can be beautiful, it cannot last!
@@joaop8985 The logical directive of my doom.
Interesting quote. Wrath is what fuels passion.
@@joaop8985 Peace will inexorably lead to chaos, and chaos to the yearning of peace. Its an eternal cycle.
A life without terror lead to the thirst of death.
You know you are a scary dude when people who have been enemies for millenia and really, really,really hate each other decide to ignore that and gang up on you.
Johan Berggren and you still kick their asses 90% of the time
Yes
@@misterkirikou I would say 99% of time.
Napoleon be like :
The guy is death incarnate
"Tenebrae! Join me in Death!" Best Dad Ever.
dad of the year award to him
Look this family 😂
Tenebrae, the best son ever
But he is not because he has never done anything good in his life, only atrocities, he even killed his parents when he was a child. >_>
@... He tortured his own mother for months on end.
In a galaxy of daddy issues, Tenebraes dad takes the award
It's hard to imagine him being gone and the galaxy finally being free. He's loomed so large over everything that's happened over the past 1,400+ years, it's hard to imagine. I hope Revan is smiling somewhere
Yeah we have to see Revan and Scourge's reactions to this turn of events.
Agreed so much, I was disappointed he didn't play some part in Vitiate's final death considering he spent his entire life trying to stop him and failed so many times.
Vitiate One thing to note: His Sith Pureblood body is still out there. He might still be alive...
AJ Rice How do we know he is a red skinned sith? We know his father is but his mother said to be of low origin. I assume she was just a human servant/slave.
mRG Well, in the novel "Revan", before he created the first Voice of the Emperor, Scourge meets him face to face. Describes him as having eyes as black as the void of empty space (and probably red skin because he's at least half Pureblood)
For those who are thinking that he's dead, you're presuming limits to his power. But there's none.
Caio Gonçalves only thing that can truly kill him would be Disney making him uncannon
he is actually alive in the swtor campaign and is trying to pull himself back together.
@@daddyGbaby Maybe to soon to tell
He’s definitely dead now
@@ItsButterBean1020 he was the best Villian
The frame of Valkorion when he stands in front of the glass of his throne room and looks at the void of space, it looks as if he is ruling over the universe instead of a mere planet.
his empire almost took over the galaxy
It’s spans a good portion of wild space
He Controller zakuul sith and through sleeper agents the Republik so in a way he Controlled the whole galaxy
"KNEEL BEFORE THE DRAGON OF ZAKUUL!" You could just tell Vaylin had wanted to say that for years.
He gives me the same feeling I did with The Dwarf in a Flask from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Vitiate isn't really dead, he faked his death so he could become the bartender on Apartos who raises Darth Bane.
man i know that
Advanced Humor
He gonna return
I saw this theory that he’s actually manipulating everything behind the scenes and manipulated palpatine to make the Death Star to fuel his death ritual. This also explains why darth tenebrous wanted to destroy the force, to cut off vitiates connection from it so he couldn’t kill everything
Life is as empty without terror as without love... But though chaos can be beautiful... It can not last.
-Emperor Vitiate
1) I find quote " A god has no family " very interesting . One of the main Star Wars themes in general , is "family" . Valkorion saying that , is not just an amazing evil thing to say , but also a very symbolic thing in this universe . Reminds me when Sidious tells Luke " Your faith in your friends is yours" .
2) Tenebrae > Sidious
DuduFilm You did it again my friend! Very good video!
That is right. This expansion was made partly because of the theme of family in Star Wars. People in shows and games who are shown to live a longer life then normally possible always have an interesting view of it. Either longing for death because there was no one else with them or wanting to outlive them all. Living so long often changes a person.
The secrets in this world not yet ready to be learned.
Anyway, do hope more of him is done. Feel like and ending to him could have been done a bit better in the game.
DuduFilm you've topped yourself my friend
I think George Lucas would liked more this story , rather than new movies.He said that Star Wars is about family as we see in this story.
"You presume limits to my power. There are none."
Best Emperor ever. Sidious has nothing on him.
yeah but Sidious is canon lol
Sidious in Legends were far more powerful than Vitiate and in Canon too cause Vitiate isn't Canon
But Palpatine has the Senate...
Kenny Zelinka No he is the Senate
Clash Gamer Not yet.
"If I must die, everything dies with me."
“There is no death, only the Force... and I am it’s master.” Not many Star Wars characters incite fear like Valkorian.
Sidious threatens you by saying, “I will kill you.”
Valkorian makes you a promise by saying, “I WILL kill you.”
"You presume there are limits to my power, there are none"
I love this quote
chilling notion. his father calls him immortal but he is not invulnerable. so is he still out there looming and watching. " remember me" was some of his final words to us....
and amazing job as always
It totally possible to become immortal in Star Wars but that by now means implies invincibility. A human soul become immortal through brainwave transfer to a machine theoretically but if the computer is ever harmed in a way that could damage you. But as long as a fraction of your brainwaves survives on a damaged hard drive you are still technically alive and this immortal, but not invincible.
Tenebrae got reclassified as a Force Entity not too long ago, making him truly immortal and unremovable, you can destroy his connection to the physical world for a time, but he will always return now.
@@KaunPrime scary thought. *Spoiler incoming* the new expansion elaborated kotfe, while you were busy facing valkorion, his former original wrath and one of his "children" kira carsen were looking looking for his original body to destroy, as it is the anchor to this world and tenebrae, they successfully destroyed it, but it left both in a coma state for about a year until the former jedi grandmaster satele shan "healed" them unknowingly taking in an unknown curse, now she and some other jedi who helped are sick, and it's starting to spread like a plague, and even kira are starting to hear whispers fearing the infected ones are communicating with each other. The scary idea that a single thought, when spread to others is now becoming a reality once more. That's what opted kira and lord wrath to look for the outlander.
The sickness reminded me of the Bar'senthor and the plaguemaster, how some jedi disturbed terrak morrhage's tomb. Until one of them was taken over by morrhage himself, who has been dead for about a millenia, and became lord vivicar
He really is a great character, I felt bad killing him.Not ending his life, but ending his role in the story, I feel that he had so much more depth and potential as a villain than he was used
@@TheMightyPizzo o shut up it wasnt
@@TheMightyPizzo Yeah, d3athbyn1ght telling people they can't have fun, thus you can't have fun. You're supposed to be miserable and depressive, so I guess everybody in the world has a capacity of a rock.... Interesting. Just enjoy what you enjoy... If someone tells you to enjoy or dislike something don't listen to them, only listen to what you find enjoyable....
@@TheMightyPizzo his opinion is his, and your opinion is yours, so don't insist your opinion to him.
You didn’t kill him, merely weakened him again...
@@anotherbloodyfanwriter1941 no, when you destroy him in your mind you are erasing him form existences, it isnt a shell or a puppet, its the essence of what he is your killing, its his final death
I still don't think Vitiate can ever be truly defeated. When one goes beyond the need for a physical vessel, you're immortal. I truly think he achieved immortality and may very well be the power that Sidious was looking for before his death.
By far one of my favorite characters in the whole SW lore, regardless of Legends or Canon. He always has something to say, forever wise, never silent.
I mean, when you're over 1400 years old you've "Seen some shit" and I hope you'd be wise or able to at least give some helpful advice to someone later in your life 😂
I have the same opinion about outlander.
1. Non-force users can't be canon, because it is 100% force users story.
2. We have 4 force users in SWTOR: barsen'thor, Hero of Tython, Darth Nox and Wrath. So why Wrath?
Someone would tell that Hero of Tython was in the cinematic trailers so he is canon. But I doubt It. If Bioware had used another class in trailer it would be obvious that this class(USED IN THE CINEMATIC) is canon. But Jedi Knight isn't canon for 100%, because Star Wars films/games etc. have usually story like One Big and Bad Guy vs young nobody who become Hero and kick his ass. JK as character for trailers was the most neutral choice.
Ok. So who is canon?
1. Hero of Tython still possible can be canon, because he was executioner of Vitiate on Dromund Kaas and It wouldn't be anything unexpected to us that he is Outlander. He was also apprentice of Vitiate for a short time after failed first try to kill him.
20% chances to be The Outlander.
2. Barsen'thor was a somebody who cured Galaxy from diseases and influence of Vitiate, but I don't think this character is canon as outlander. He didn't fight Vitiate/Valkorion in person and I think that he went to unknown regions of galaxy trying to find usefull knowledge.
10% chances to be The Outlander.
3. Darth Nox was VERY SIMILAR to Emperor. Why?
A). He consumed ghosts to gain more and more power.
B). He was called DRAGON on Nar Shaddaa! "Kneel before The DRAGON of Zakuul" sounds now even more interesting.
C). In one of last conversations with Valkorion he said something like this: "Thanaton underestimated you, but I'm not". It suggest us that Emperor observed Nox long time before he became member of Dark Council.
D). Darth Nox had a similar LIFE STORY to Valkorion: Born as a slave, became one of the most powerfull Siths, Both used to consume other beings to be more powerfull and in the end become emperor.
25% chances to be The Outlander
4. Finally Lord Wrath.
A). He was PERSONAL executioner of Sith Emperor and he was very close to him in this way. He freed him in his personal story and Vitiate/Valkorion started making him his superweapon - Vessel of the Supreme Power.
B). Vitiate/Valkorion very often told that Wrath is VERY SPECIAL to him. When he told that he will kill him last Valkorion didn't mind only that he will liberate all galaxy then kill Wrath, He also planed to use him as puppet and finally take his body as a new voice.
C). As you said: Master - Apprentice and Apprentice kills his Master.
D). According to 1 nad 2... KOTFE and KOTET is story of Valkorion's FAMILY.
Valkorion saw potential in Wrath, potental he didn't see in his own sons. In the dark side Chapter I of Kotet Senya says: "You are truly son he always wated to have". Valkorion's sons were his executioners, Wrath was his executioner too but Wrath always was BETTER than Valkorion's sons, He truly was son he always wanted to have!!!
Chances to be The Outlander 45%(or even more)!!!
Lord Wrath as The Outlander would be the most PERSONAL story and KOTFE/KOTET is VERY PERSONALL because It is about familly of The Emperor and Wrath was part of this family!!!
I totally agree with that verdict. Another line that was mentioned in chapter one of kotfe. When Valkorian mentions you are the champion of fear. Fear is a heavy dark side concept. I feel that rules out both jedi classes. This leaves Nox and Wrath. Nox is someone who as you mentioned is a carbon copy of Valkorian, even the fact that both use the force to accomplish their goals and were very poor in the form of light saber combat. So Nox is ruled out due to the several cut scenes where the character has to be rather efficient at light saber combat. As you say I completely agree that Lord Wrath is the outlander. After all he was the emperor''s wrath, the champion of fear and conqueror of Valkorian's every challenge. In the end becoming Valkorian's executioner.
Take a look at the last words of the Emperor to the Outlander. This is the key to solution of the mystery. Jedi Knight, "and you, a lone Jedi, hounding me without aim or purpose" Jedi consular "and you, a lone Jedi, attempting to cure the galaxy from my influence," Sith Inquisitor, "and you, a lone sith , bloated with the power ", then all 3 (JK, JC and SI):" I forged you into being worthy of the eternal throne. Without me you are nothing. " Sith Warrior: "And you, a lone Sith, betrayed by your master and left for dead.", And then "I gave you a second life, anointed you as my Wrath, forged into being worthy of eternal throne. Without me you are nothing. "
When we defeated Revan and the emperor was freed or whatever the SW was the only class he addressed directly the others not a word. When we defeated Valkorion and he was close to death SW was the only class Valkorion addressed specific dialogue.
I think that already it is obvious that SW is The Outlander!
Indeed, my good sir.
Indeed, I would have loved the last scene before you kill him to be this way:
Wrath: I'll miss you...
Tenebrae: I have always been so proud of you...I'll love you always...
Lol xDD
Ah, the bittersweet memories... I don't think that, from Warrior storyline perspective, anyone else incited such contradictory feelings from me. Had it not been the choice between the Galaxy and Valkorion, my sw would have remained loyal to him. He was *the* charismatic villain who had the gift of coming across as wise and, in a way , *reasonable* (moreso as Valkorion).
Even if receiving relationship advise from him was strange
Your Sith Warrior: "I don't know how to talk to her man. She's so daunting !"
Valkorian: *"Tremel didn't train a bitch ! Make yo move nigga !"*
😂😂😂
I'm so sorry, but Valkorian saying this would have been the greatest thing ever.
Honestly a similar thing for me, like he was such a good character that it was almost tempting to be loyal to him. But I was also playing my character that is meant to be the ruler, to claim power and learn from others before there is nothing more to learn, and only to remove them to remove a threat to his own rule.
I LOVED playing the Revan and Ziost expansions, especially as Wrath to get that special dialogue from Vitiate. Sorry Sidious, but Vitiate takes the top spot as my favorite Sith/Dark Side user. I actually learned things from his wisdom.
And Marka Ragnos played an important part in making Vitiate who he was
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The epilogue story only really makes sense with either the knight or the wrath, and personally I prefer the wrath. Those two are the only ones that really share anything of a personal connection to Tenebrae
But is really hilarious to play with non force user especially after you kill him with a goddamn blaster. Blastech will have a good selling this Emperor killing blaster
@@laisphinto6372 Random Mandalorian interrupts the final battle between Satelle, Bastila, Revan and Vitiate.
*Shoots the Emperor dead*
"Yeehaw, chucklefucks"
love the bit when he says "now you will all be consumed by eternity" send chills down my spine
It's crazy to think both KOTORs were technically a prequel for this guy. An undying shadow to bend, break, and if neccessary consume the entire galaxy at his whim. Such a great character. Buying into his own godly dogma. Not seeing the weakness his fear presented, and the opportunities his opposition had thanks to his arrogance. With a great ending to even the most powerful of Sith too. As like many before Tenebrae...in the end...he was nothing..
God damn beautiful! I seriously got chills at the end
Honestly, this made me cry knowing that this could have been the sequel trilogy.
Everytime I watch this I always shiver when he says "A god has no family." And I almost always cry at the very end because it's just a really good line lol.
There is no death. There is only the force. And I am it’s master! Valkorian rules!
The thing is. No matter how evil he was. He was right that without "Us" The galaxy will spiral into chaos. He did in some way bring order to the sith and the Republic. The fear for him kept everyone mostly in line.
True. It's once again in line with nature, as the Sith tend to be. It's like celestial bodies. The smaller things always revolve around the larger (or rather heavier) ones in an orderly fashion. Without the big ones, the small ones would either collide and destroy each other, or get flung out into the void to die a cold and lonely death. It would be chaos.
@@madrazz8888 I honestly think he survived just barely and lived out his immortality as different personalities over the rest of galactic history. He might have actually become an Artist, a Farmer and quite likely a simple man like he told the HoT 👀
Whatever people say about this game. It had some great storylines and the eternal storyline had beautiful animations.
Also this video is incredibly well done
"A god has no family."
Every religion in existence: "Should we tell him?"
What about Islam? In Islam, God has no family, no son, no kids. Lol
@@Galland780 Angels and Archangels still exist within Islam bro.
@@bobross9581 yeah, but those aren't God's children. They're just God's creation lol.
@@Galland780 Do you not know how Angels and Archangels work? Angel is just another term for Lesser God dating back mellenia, They function as the children of God in every religion they exist within. The concepts of Angels and Archangels date back to the old Mediterranean religions. Look at it this way. God/Allah are middle eastern parallels to Over Deities of Polytheistic religions of Antiquity. With Their Angles acting as The Children of God. With Arch Angels acting as the most powerful beings in existence underneath the Over Deity. Before The Birth of Monotheism when Judaism and ancient Semetic Religions were Polytheistic, Angels were referred to as Lesser Gods, that's why many angels act as manifestations of the natural world. But instead of being born in a natural way like in other religions. They were born in more unique ways. A la by God's own hand. Don't make a claim when you don't know what you're talking about bro.
@@bobross9581 and we don't consider Allah having a family because he has no one. He is The One and has no kids. He cannot be impregnate and can't be pregnant. That's what is Muslims have been thought. Unless you're a Muslim yourself, then any claims you made about the teachings is false.
And just to be clear, I was literally talking about Islam, not Christianity if that's what makes you confuse
How do you do it Dudu? No matter the quality of source material you can make pure epicness out of it. Perfect job as always.
"A god has no family"
Takes weeks of constructing story , editing , re editing , re watching , fixing , again and again until I have no problems with it . I could make videos almost everyday but I prefer quality over quantity . I'm glad you enjoyed it
"quality over quantity" that's why your videos are so awesome. We wait for one video for even half a year but when it comes out it's always worth the wait.
PS: I wanted to ask what software do you use for recording? I use Fraps when I wanted to record something but when I wanted to do something bigger that required more material I soon ran out of HDD space.
Thank you . I use Nvidia Geforce Experience to record . It records with good quality and doesn't take much space .
BUCKLE UP BOYS, HE'S COMING BACK!!!
3rd times the charm
And he is dead. FUCK.
They don't call him "The Immortal Emperor" for nothing
I can't stop watching this, Valkorion just seems so badass and powerful and the music is so beautiful. I can see my potential listening to this or I can see some villains tragic backstory
His original body was never discovered. Unless the original died somehow by someone he will be back and will wield power none of us have EVER seen.
If I remember right his original body is sealed in a crypt deep below Nathema's surface.
didnt his hand recover his orginal body after his host died in the dromund kaas operation?
Body was taken away to a secure location. I could say that... there is possibility that Snoke is tenebrae
Close, but no cigar. Valkorion's greatest weakness, his fear, is what fueled his downfall. As part of his gambit to cheat death once and for all, he poured *all* of his will, his power, his spirit into the Outlander in an attempt to claim their body as his own and secure himself unopposed in the galaxy. His gambit failed, and the very core essence of his being was struck down. Like love, without a center to hold his body together, it withered, and died.
He will fight his way out of hell if he has to, which according to the Sith is possible, however extremely hard and unlikely.
Valkorion always three steps ahead of his enemies.He is playing chess with the Universe and winning.
"Kneel before the dragon of Zakuul"
Im in need of dialogue like this.
Also nice trailer! Music fits really well! Good choice of music!
i really love to believe that valkorion is out there somewhere, being a farmer or something. just living his life, chilling, as he has been elevated to more than a mere being but truly became a god. the defeat by the outlander maybe taught him that ruling the galaxy and such were only trouble.
Never forget valkorion/vitiate/tenebrea you are the only master of the immortality
Like always : your clip is perfect ^^ all hail Darth Vitiate / Lord Tenebrae / Emperor Valkorion
All those years, all that power...and still lost. Villains just have to dialogue instead of just going for the killing blow. Gotta love it when writers do that every time.
I'm so glad he's coming back! I knew he couldn't really be gone. Makes me excited to return to the game, now.
After everything that happend in the end I will miss Valkorion
Me too
I love valkorion ngl
I think Valkorion survived. Because: " Remember me, when your alliance burns to ash."
@@vitiatet7856 Is this game free sir?
@@vitiatet7856 What is the price?
You weren't wrong.
It is amazing that he finally shows signs of true anger and fear only when he KNOWS that he is about to die and also that this time, there is no coming back...
He knows, in the end, all he can do is let loose one last, spiteful barb.
He might be the ultimate villain. But he tought Sith one thing.
"There is no death. There is the Force."
Amazing as always and it is really hard to imagine he is gone but I still believe his terror has not ended and it never shall end! I also still believe he could be snoke and for everyone else that loves Vitiate I hope he is alive
Nathan the orc slayer de Wet it's unlikely that he'll be Snoke. As you know, Disney has done away with the old EU, even though they cherry pick and steal ideas from the EU. I honestly feel that Snoke is someone new. These Snoke theories have gotten way outta hand. Now fans suspect that everyone could be Snoke
I'm still coming back to watch this and I get chills every time. Great work.
Awesome job! I loved the Eternal Throne expansion. It was so awesome!
The part where Vaylin yells out the Kneel Before The Power of Zakuul got to me I just felt bad when she just didn't have a life or choices
before the dragon of zakuul
You continue to amaze me. Here I thought that nothing would surpass "God Awakens". I was wrong. A true masterpiece. It's amazing that fan made tribute can hype up more than official movie trailers. You have my respect and my compliments.
Imagine if valcorion was the main villain for a new trilogy of movies.
I still remember when a trilogy set in the Old Republic was mentioned a lot after the aftermath. People were very much shuffling the fancast for Revan between Keanu Reeves and Christian Bale. What times when there was still hope to see this period on the big screen 🥲
Wince inducing
your finest work yet I love it
"And thus ends the reign of the Immortal Emperor" - The Outlander. My favorite line in KOTET, especially when it's from your game.
Luke Skywalker: No one is truly ever gone..
*Laughs in Valkorion *
Jedi Knight and Sith Warrior are both important in Vitiate's plot. JK became a weapon for him for some time but he manages to break free and ultimately destroy his vessel. As for Sith warrior, was saved by Vitiate's servants and did his will until Shadow of Revan.
I agree with you they are both important In Vitiates plot. But i feel like everything involving Vitiate since Shadow of Revan has been far more personal for the SW simply because in his eyes Vitiate screwed him and was planning to kill him all along. And on top of that it also became clear that everything the SW had done for Vitiate before was all to make things easier for Vitiate to kill him and everyone else. He feels betrayed by Vitiate and wants to stop him and get revenge for himself as much as for the Empire.
when you get the 3 most epic names in star wars
Just thought I would say that I really enjoy your videos and that you did a great job on this one too, it really reminded me why Vitiate is my favourite character is Swtor maybe even all of Star Wars
How ironic that in the end, Valkorion/Tenebrae/ Vitiate was more human than he cared to admit.
He feared death more than anyone else. That's why he is so interesting
So guys I think entire story,which started from long ago KOTOR finally finished with Vitiate death.Revenge and justice for all characters in KOTOR, KOTOR 2,TOR is over.Game is over.At least for me.
Spirit of Nature True. The Puppet Master behind all of those was killed for good
Yeah the game feels pretty much over to me now as well. I don't think there is much of a story left to tell unless they invent a new threat beyond Jedi and Sith. As for the whole eternal alliance thing I think it should disband now that the threat of Valkorian is gone.
If they want to create a new good threat it is better to start with KOTOR 3.Otherwise it is over for me.
***** The Vong maybe?
***** You are Mearly its user...not the Darkness Embodied
'We have become as gods, immortal but not invulnerable'. Feel this says all a power seeker requires realization of
Because of the double xp event going that ends tomorrow for the past month have been replaying all of the old republic online class quests from the beginning.
Fantastic videos the voice actress for the female with warrior is fantastic.
"There is no death, there`s only the force … and I am it`s Master."
"There is no death, there`s only the force." These are the last few words of the Jedi code. Tenebrae took these words, which are a sanctuary to the Jedi and declared him to be the Master of the force. That´s the proof and a perfect example of how Tenebrae disrespected other cultures.
And people still believe that Sidious, Nihilus, Anakin or Kylo Ren can beat this guy
LMAO VITIATE WAS THE SITH LORD
Kylo Ren? Are they on drugs?
@@svenkeckes2070 The Micky mouse kind
Kedovil53
To be fair full potential Anakin could beat Viviate.
Shrek I agree, Anakin at his full potential would destroy Vitiate like he was a speck of dust
Remember, he was supposed to take The Father’s place which meant Anakin was just a strong or stronger than The Father
@@aydenstewy
Viviate beated Revan who was the best force user/duelist in old republic era, and he did it even WITHOUT using his lightsaber, plus he killed his first sith lord at the age of 13 and Marka Ragnos instantly made him sith lord. Btw I know that full potential Anakin would beat Viviate just wanted to say that Viviate was not very far from full potential anakin, powerwise.
You a really badass when the Jedi and Sith have to ally against you
Rest in peace Princess Leia
Truly the most powerful force wielder of all time.
I really love it when you edit "A God has no family at the mid of silence
Makes me cry, seeing the Eternal family strike down their once-was-their father (Emperor Vitiate), I suspect that Arcann knew that Valkorian was possessed.
To have known Valkorian before Vitiate would be cool. Senya is the closest we will get to know him.
I love the character Senya, truly mother of the year in the fictional universe!
@@JetSetRadiumFuture I think Valkorion pre Vitate existed millenia ago, Senya never knew the true valkorion,
I still remember when you uploaded this
This video's so awesome... And now back to SWTOR
He was the one thing that the Force could not tolerate, a rival.
This is my favorite Star Wars character ever, possibly my favorite villain of all time
There needs to be a 3rd part now.
Your SWTOR vids are what get me back into the game. Every time I watch one of them, I feel the urge to play it.
“There never was any doubt, all who claim immortality seem to so quickly lose their hold on life, ironic.”
The strongest master of the force to ever live.
This is why I feel the SoR-KotET has a special feel when it's on the Warrior or Knight.
He is not gone forever
If he really died he went to a place called the Void. This where all darkside beings go after they perish. (assuming they dont return as a ghost).
It is possible, and it happend a couple of times, that those beings can be conjured and brought back into the world of the living using rituals.
So technically if a force user wants to resurrect him it is possible.
To sum up:
- He is still existing somewhere
- He could technically return at any time
I dont know if this is realistic, especially if we consider, that he was not a simple force user. He has been confirmed to be a force entity. But i think this will only improve his chances to return.
P.S. did you see the purple beam of energy that left his body when the outlander struck him down? Similar to the one when he left Yavin 4.
there is also essence transfer. A bit of him may survive in the Outlander, particularly a Dark Side Outlander.
still my favorite of all of your videos there is no way you can possibly top this
Valkorion: A god has no family
god: It's treason then
I do believe that Valkorian is still not dead. His father did say he was immortal.
amazing work as always but im still curious about your giant sith video youve been teasing
" Patience " - Yoda
ash ketchum you'll see it soon enough I can assure you of that
Hamilton Benjumea
im already a player :P
“But he is more than dark. He’s...a void.”
Something he, Sidious, and Nihilus all shared. They weren’t just of the dark side, they WERE the dark side. Great voids in the force, and of these, Tenebrae was the most all-encompassing.
You have done well creator.
Just watched The Rise of Skywalker a few days ago.
Is it sad that I felt more emotions from this?
I don't want to believe this is the end of Tenebrae. He has to have another way of coming back.
The guy who wouldn't end until you followed him to the border of the afterlife itself.
I have my doubts that Vitiate is truly dead. He is probably sitting on some dark throne somewhere laughing at his ultimate plot to trick the galaxy into thinking he is dead.
Robert Bloom *Laughs more*
Robert Bloom Well, I read somewhare that Vitiate's TRUE death was around 67 BBY and ir this is correct, the he is not dead, but probably severely weakened.
Robert Bloom Well, I read somewhare that Vitiate's TRUE death was around 67 BBY and if this is correct, then he is not dead, but probably severely weakened
@@jakobrenner2230 why was that specific date chosen for when he died ? Is that the same year Palpatine was born. Reincarnation theories are brewing 👀
@@blackshogun272 I don't think this is likely because while their respective modus operandi were extremely similar in some areas, they differ in other key areas. Also, Vitiate relied on Dark Side Rituals to feed his power, while Palpatine relied on his own raw power. No rituals, no magicks just the pure energy of the Dark Side that he incarnates since the day he was born.
Great work! Please keep doing more. One simply can't have enough of your videos.
and the worst part about Kotet was we never got to see the emperors true form as a pureblood
What if he looked like an Egyptian Pharaoh with red eye lining and symbols across his body with eyes that drive you mad if you stare too long. Dang, making him sound more and more like a god 🤣
I really see how well the Wrath fits, but honestly it's obviously meant for the Jedi Knight. I really liked my Consular the best playing through this story, and not just because my Shadow is my main, but because I like the Female Consular's voice.
Evan,Sith Warrior is the canon and it fits perfectly.read that wodnerful comment from Lukasz Kowalski
i feel it more personal for the jedi knight because the jedi knight it the one whose live goal was to end him the wrath didnt even meet the emperor until voss and after that only talked to him in shdow of revan
Tenebrae never die!!! His true body is not destroyed!
it is now.
считаю это твоей лучшей работой!
при просмотре этого шедерва я получил такой багаж эмоций который мне не дали ни Дисней с их ср*ным каноном ни прочие материалы по этой замечательной вселенной.
ты лучший Дуду!
I think this is your best work!
when viewing this masterpiece, I got such a baggage of emotions that neither Disney with their f*cking Canon nor other materials on this wonderful universe gave me.
you are the best Dudu!
the great dragon was the greatest enemy star wars could wish for
I STILL love this video one of your best
Many say sidious is stronger than valkorian, perhaps that's true. Perhaps not. There is 1 thing for certain that I know, valkorian is the heart of sith. He is the darkness to light, the hatred to love. He is the true meaning of sith, he had the passion and rage to become it, that was his destiny
kevvv science Sidious got picked up and thrown to his death. He aint nowhere near.
Carlos Zenteno also you should get information on sidious from the expanded universe and other sources because the films do not really show how dangerous he was
Valkorion, Immortal Master of Zakuul Are you really dead this time ?
Sidious is more powerful in legends he even had the knowledge of force storms
Yes and no ...
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I Just love these! I wonder if Vitate could return as Snoke maybe?
This video lives rent free in my mind