"Thats political problem". Totally agree with him. I like how he thinks. Partially I am thinking like him, there is category for EVERYTHING.. His answer is very honest, clever, short and crisp.
Yup, there are good and bad things when it comes to Ai. Yeah it steals the jobs, but these systems also need to be developed and maintained and if his company gets big he also creates new work places. Also as it's mentioned in the video, it's stage 3 self-driving car system where it still needs to have a human sitting in the car. So if anything, it would make drivers workers job easier.
i hated the guy who asked the question, who was essentially saying, "We can't solve this problem until we solve capitalism first" and putting that whole problem on George.
Jesus he sounds so much more composed and grown up compared to when he was younger doing interviews...I'm glad it worked out for him, he was always one of my fave hackers. I have no doubt he will be extremely successful at this venture.
His answer is deeper than that. He acknowledges that it’ll cause a massive disruption but that other people will work on solving those issues. It’s humble and smart to think that way. Imagine trying to fix every problem downstream of a tech like self driving. Imagine the hubris it would take to think you could or should. You’d never ship. The change would never happen. Evolve towards it and the system will adapt. Other smart and motivated people will work on the problems and opportunities that crop up because of that change. The best answer would have been to throw it back at the questioner and ask “what are you going to do to address the challenge” and if he tried to dodge, follow up with the same lecturing tone “no, it’s not a debate, you should be working on it”. Some people fear change and others welcome it. Do the latter.
@@snarkyboojum idk man, sounds more like he undermines the people who solve those problems, hence the lack of motivation to even grant the question a second of thought.
It really is. Who is he to solve social/economical questions that whole governments are not able to solve. To state that none of this is in his field of competence gives listeners the "Oh fuck" moment, so you don't expect solutions. I think it's much more honest than calming everybody down while running into the abyss. And in the end i think he's right, technological developement is inevitable.
This is the best approach to A.I. I have come across. The issue arises when you program A.I. with code, it becomes biased as humans do because "that's the way it was taught to me." Where as George shows the A.I. a 100 hours of humans driving. It learns from observing actual human driving behavior. Plus the human always overrides the A.I.
So self-driving technology should not move forward because people have jobs driving other people around. He's helping to move us into a future full of endless possibilities. That's a question he shouldn't have to answer.
yeah, that mindset is pretty fucking ridiculous. "oh, no, what are we going to do when everything is automated and we don't have jobs? how are we going to survive?" lol
I got viciously interested in AI because of Numenta. How Hotz talks sounds a *lot* like how the brain actually works, a lot like Numenta people talk. I know that Hotz had exposure to Numenta's ideas, because he worked at Vicarious which had Numenta people at high levels (but, of course, also because Hotz is into AI and brilliant and has probably internalized large swaths of what Numenta has written). What he said about he code being 2000 lines and the naturally-encoded object-model-of-the-universe-its-been-exposed-to blob being 4MB is very helpful for someone trying to grok this subject. I'm very intrigued that 100,000 hours of driving footage can be represented in only a 4MB cortex-inspired model. I am thinking that his ridiculously small code framework could be applied to a MILLION other applications and may be some sort of holy freaking grail of natural AI.
I heard Mobileye does use machine learning so I take what he said about them (hard-coding stuff) as an ambiguous assumption. He's brilliant nonetheless.
I completely agree, it's like Dna. A relatively small biological memory stick that unfolds from it our entire human history and civilisation. It's all formulas, ever unfolding formulas.
The question about what to do with all those driver jobs is not up to the engineer to solve. It is a problem for economists and politicians to debate. I suspect the new technology will create more jobs in the long run than it eliminates.
He wants dat AI data on the world bruh. More important than money he says, he knows geeks inherit the Earth :) Now his biggest enemy is himself, as it always was but being a technical guy is one thing. Curing Malaria and getting knighted is another, he has no idea the Pandora's box he opened. May the Universe expand in his favor. Onward!
The guy with the comment about the jobs is clueless and George's response was perfect including reference to the loom and industrial revolution . Jobs are important but never should they become constraints to the innovator. When that happens then innovation becomes constrained and if innovation had been constrained throughout time we would not be here today. George reminds me of a young Marc Andreessen.
So george hotz basically told Elon how to solve self driving. FSD v12 is now end to end Neural Network and they reduced pretty much all of the lines of code and are now using a fully Neural Network architecture. v12 is performing very well. George is a very smart guy
People actually have the transportation workers thing wrong, certainly for truck drivers. Driving systems will replace truck drivers the same way autopilot replaced pilots. It didn't. It never will because of liability issues. And there is more to the job of driving a truck than driving the truck. What it SHOULD enable is more efficiency as drivers should be allowed to drive more hours per day when they are, basically, monitoring driver assist systems. Many drivers now complain about the laws restricting the number of hours they can drive which are now rigidly enforced because the trucks have monitoring systems that use GPS and other methods to track how many hours they ACTUALLY drive rather than what they write in their log-books. If driver assist is recognized as a means of reducing driver fatigue, it could be possible to go back to letting drivers drive 12 hours a day. They would welcome that as it would make them more profitable. There is actually a coming shortage of truck drivers likely, in part, because people probably assume it is a dead end career that is destined to be eliminated by technology. That would be like an aspiring airplane pilot in the 1990s deciding that the job would not exist anymore because of autopilot systems.
7:33 People who invented digital camera just simply don't care if Kodak will go broke or not. Technology is moving forward and there is always gonna be new jobs due to the demand of a technology, for example the manufacture of this device.
Killing old industries with a tonne of job opportunities and replacing them with new industries with few job opportunities isn't sufficient. The postal service used to employ hundreds of thousands of people and provided communication between millions, gmail has a few dozen staff members (Google has a few dozen dedicated) and provides communication to hundreds of millions of people.
Next time upload the full interview without the music, constant cuts/transitions and other edits
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Im a pro driver and Hotz is spot on. Knowing how to drive is not staying centered in a lane and steering, its all about predictions and timing. You must see the next move of someone before it happens. Mosr people dont have basic understanding of traffic flow and theyre idiots.
I don't know how old you are but I hope you are not talking about Linus from Linus Techtips but Linus Torvald. If you were then it is quite sad that you compared a genius to a business man who cares about nothing but money and some kid who does tech videos on youtube.
I never understand the whole jobs thing. In the short term we have more work than we can handle, for example look at all the houses that could be painted roads that could be fixed, etc the list is endless. Also if we have more time then things that would be considered unproductive because they weren't efficient may suddenly become worthwhile like planting trees in marginal areas to soak up co2. What if the new Ai allows space travel and we then have new planets to terraform. I live and work on a farm and I could employ lots of people to help but I cant afford it. If we had robots to do other jobs then maybe some of the things I would consider not valuable enough to actually pay someone to help with might become a worthwhile job.
There is good reason. That AI can be problematic, same as a knife, is not a reason to avoid it. Technological capability just needs to be matched by superior wisdom. And these self driving car systems aren't as such capable outside this application and is not a concern for anyone. Other than cab drivers. But same as the internet should not be avoided to help librarians and book printers, so there is great overall advantage in progress.
Christopher Motte If everyone thought like you, we wouldn't have anything you take for granted today. Vehicles, aircraft, computers / internet / telecoms, space exploration, heck even electricity. We'd still be in the Stone Age.
@@design7054 it’s your opinion...not truth...and again...there was no value in the statement you made. It was just pointless criticism of someone you’re intimidated by because they’re smarter than you.
Next time don't put music under the interview so much. I felt like I was watching constant revelations and confessions.
lol right?
Seriously, I was cracking up. The music is ridiculous for the content.
Thanks for your comment. We agree as well but didn't have much sway with the video editor! No bad music next year.
haha.
I know! I can't even hear him clearly with the music on
"Thats political problem". Totally agree with him. I like how he thinks. Partially I am thinking like him, there is category for EVERYTHING.. His answer is very honest, clever, short and crisp.
Yup, there are good and bad things when it comes to Ai. Yeah it steals the jobs, but these systems also need to be developed and maintained and if his company gets big he also creates new work places. Also as it's mentioned in the video, it's stage 3 self-driving car system where it still needs to have a human sitting in the car. So if anything, it would make drivers workers job easier.
i hated the guy who asked the question, who was essentially saying, "We can't solve this problem until we solve capitalism first" and putting that whole problem on George.
you can not convince me that this man is not a potential genius. in a sense, he is not credited enough yet. time will give him that credit though.
Jesus he sounds so much more composed and grown up compared to when he was younger doing interviews...I'm glad it worked out for him, he was always one of my fave hackers. I have no doubt he will be extremely successful at this venture.
yeah thats growing up for you
"That's a political problem" damn son
Yeaaa poor guy thinks being rich and successful is purely a technical problem.
His answer is deeper than that. He acknowledges that it’ll cause a massive disruption but that other people will work on solving those issues. It’s humble and smart to think that way. Imagine trying to fix every problem downstream of a tech like self driving. Imagine the hubris it would take to think you could or should. You’d never ship. The change would never happen. Evolve towards it and the system will adapt. Other smart and motivated people will work on the problems and opportunities that crop up because of that change. The best answer would have been to throw it back at the questioner and ask “what are you going to do to address the challenge” and if he tried to dodge, follow up with the same lecturing tone “no, it’s not a debate, you should be working on it”. Some people fear change and others welcome it. Do the latter.
@@neaplepinchy4538 Is there something wrong with being rich and successful?
@@snarkyboojum idk man, sounds more like he undermines the people who solve those problems, hence the lack of motivation to even grant the question a second of thought.
It really is. Who is he to solve social/economical questions that whole governments are not able to solve.
To state that none of this is in his field of competence gives listeners the "Oh fuck" moment, so you don't expect solutions.
I think it's much more honest than calming everybody down while running into the abyss.
And in the end i think he's right, technological developement is inevitable.
I just bought a Comma 2 and it is fantastic.
How does it work, can I put it on a Nissan leaf?
This is the best approach to A.I. I have come across. The issue arises when you program A.I. with code, it becomes biased as humans do because "that's the way it was taught to me." Where as George shows the A.I. a 100 hours of humans driving. It learns from observing actual human driving behavior. Plus the human always overrides the A.I.
"Marketing is for people who don't have a great product"
So self-driving technology should not move forward because people have jobs driving other people around. He's helping to move us into a future full of endless possibilities. That's a question he shouldn't have to answer.
That guy went off-topic completely.
its okay george served him
yeah, that mindset is pretty fucking ridiculous. "oh, no, what are we going to do when everything is automated and we don't have jobs? how are we going to survive?" lol
and unfortunately there's so many ppl who think like that too
tonyfalca i wish there was people like you in my life who i could agree with
Jobs and the system is a political thing. He's right.
7:34 that response to that question was awesome. I could see that being a memorable quote he gave for the future to come.
Yes, great answer and as if job elimination was a new thing. What a dumb question!
That guy was a douche and a condescending prick. He has no business telling anybody what they should or shouldn’t do.
I got viciously interested in AI because of Numenta. How Hotz talks sounds a *lot* like how the brain actually works, a lot like Numenta people talk. I know that Hotz had exposure to Numenta's ideas, because he worked at Vicarious which had Numenta people at high levels (but, of course, also because Hotz is into AI and brilliant and has probably internalized large swaths of what Numenta has written).
What he said about he code being 2000 lines and the naturally-encoded object-model-of-the-universe-its-been-exposed-to blob being 4MB is very helpful for someone trying to grok this subject. I'm very intrigued that 100,000 hours of driving footage can be represented in only a 4MB cortex-inspired model. I am thinking that his ridiculously small code framework could be applied to a MILLION other applications and may be some sort of holy freaking grail of natural AI.
Exactly. It's so inspiring just to think about those 2000 lines of code vs 100k+ lines on others "fixed rules" self- driving systems
I heard Mobileye does use machine learning so I take what he said about them (hard-coding stuff) as an ambiguous assumption. He's brilliant nonetheless.
I completely agree, it's like Dna. A relatively small biological memory stick that unfolds from it our entire human history and civilisation. It's all formulas, ever unfolding formulas.
As an outsider looking in, how can I get my hands in this industry & start to learn?
not 100,000 hours, just 100 hours.
I believe in this guy. This guy will take over googles self driving program hopefully
The question about what to do with all those driver jobs is not up to the engineer to solve. It is a problem for economists and politicians to debate.
I suspect the new technology will create more jobs in the long run than it eliminates.
Holy fuck that music was completely unnecessary.
Hotz is the man .... Good luck to his endeavours
George seems like a smart honest guy. hopefully he has a wonderful heart and soul.
He wants dat AI data on the world bruh. More important than money he says, he knows geeks inherit the Earth :) Now his biggest enemy is himself, as it always was but being a technical guy is one thing. Curing Malaria and getting knighted is another, he has no idea the Pandora's box he opened. May the Universe expand in his favor. Onward!
The future and change is coming, weather its a bad thing or not to, its coming regardless.
The guy with the comment about the jobs is clueless and George's response was perfect including reference to the loom and industrial revolution . Jobs are important but never should they become constraints to the innovator. When that happens then innovation becomes constrained and if innovation had been constrained throughout time we would not be here today. George reminds me of a young Marc Andreessen.
So george hotz basically told Elon how to solve self driving. FSD v12 is now end to end Neural Network and they reduced pretty much all of the lines of code and are now using a fully Neural Network architecture. v12 is performing very well. George is a very smart guy
Truly amazing!
When this car comes out ima try to hack it haha drive it around through my PC haha
Is not a car is a computer that you put on any car
People actually have the transportation workers thing wrong, certainly for truck drivers. Driving systems will replace truck drivers the same way autopilot replaced pilots. It didn't.
It never will because of liability issues. And there is more to the job of driving a truck than driving the truck. What it SHOULD enable is more efficiency as drivers should be allowed to drive more hours per day when they are, basically, monitoring driver assist systems. Many drivers now complain about the laws restricting the number of hours they can drive which are now rigidly enforced because the trucks have monitoring systems that use GPS and other methods to track how many hours they ACTUALLY drive rather than what they write in their log-books.
If driver assist is recognized as a means of reducing driver fatigue, it could be possible to go back to letting drivers drive 12 hours a day. They would welcome that as it would make them more profitable. There is actually a coming shortage of truck drivers likely, in part, because people probably assume it is a dead end career that is destined to be eliminated by technology.
That would be like an aspiring airplane pilot in the 1990s deciding that the job would not exist anymore because of autopilot systems.
3:09 "did you put a motor on?" ....haaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was right. His approach to AI was right. He just never had the strategy for data gathering. He was so close.
This guy is literally cool 👌
need loudest music, thank you
7:33 People who invented digital camera just simply don't care if Kodak will go broke or not. Technology is moving forward and there is always gonna be new jobs due to the demand of a technology, for example the manufacture of this device.
Killing old industries with a tonne of job opportunities and replacing them with new industries with few job opportunities isn't sufficient.
The postal service used to employ hundreds of thousands of people and provided communication between millions, gmail has a few dozen staff members (Google has a few dozen dedicated) and provides communication to hundreds of millions of people.
J but remember how USPS expanded due to e-commerce, and so as Amazon’ s own delivery service.
"Was the loom a bad thing?"
about that
still the greatest interview of all times imo
I also accuse drugs on any illegal mistakes I may have made in my past.
Its all the cartels fault.
were that self driving car mr smarty pants
Next time upload the full interview without the music, constant cuts/transitions and other edits
Im a pro driver and Hotz is spot on. Knowing how to drive is not staying centered in a lane and steering, its all about predictions and timing. You must see the next move of someone before it happens. Mosr people dont have basic understanding of traffic flow and theyre idiots.
Did you have to do the music track?
I think he replace programmers also😭😭😭
"next billion dollar CEO" lol he would cringe at that now
I see a bit of Steve Jobs in him, and a bit of Linus.
I don't know how old you are but I hope you are not talking about Linus from Linus Techtips but Linus Torvald. If you were then it is quite sad that you compared a genius to a business man who cares about nothing but money and some kid who does tech videos on youtube.
At least he could spell.
Jobs could absolutely code, but he was no Woz.
He coded for Atari though.
I said that because he is arrogant like Steve jobs
Why can't he just be himself? Stop looking for patterns it's so cliche
And he can rap.
Without mechanical switch to cut off power supply i don't trust that electric steering
So what happened?? (2018)
nice
If you build it they will buy it…. I mean they will come
wth with the background music? omg how it bothers. also too loud.
I got the solution for everyone when they take our jobs. It's called protecting your homes with guns and growing your own food. Revolting if needed.
If they take our jobs then we take their tax income away by not paying!!!
Lol it was the Hottz ; )
The guy at 7:35. He should ask himself whether the car should be invented?
Drugs, betcha it was weed Hahahaha! Get'em nerd! You're on the right track.
Have you ever tried to code stoned...? Bet it wasn't. And yeah, I am almost 5 years late to this vid hahaha.
I never understand the whole jobs thing. In the short term we have more work than we can handle, for example look at all the houses that could be painted roads that could be fixed, etc the list is endless. Also if we have more time then things that would be considered unproductive because they weren't efficient may suddenly become worthwhile like planting trees in marginal areas to soak up co2. What if the new Ai allows space travel and we then have new planets to terraform. I live and work on a farm and I could employ lots of people to help but I cant afford it. If we had robots to do other jobs then maybe some of the things I would consider not valuable enough to actually pay someone to help with might become a worthwhile job.
Can u play the music louder when the guy is talking? I could almost hear his words.
9:10 Nudge psychology r8 there
Self driving cars is an utopia.
7:38 FINALLY A BRIGHT MIND
Technology has been phasing out jobs for...centuries. Look at how technology has reshaped the job market in the last 5 decades. Are we unemployed?
Dare explanation
...as if watching a young steve jobs....
4mb model !!
Is that shit real ?
why that music ???????
Really? This music?
What's with the piano music? Ridiculously annoying
7:34 what a stupid question
what's with the stupid emotional music
The background Soundtrack sucks!
Remove the fucking background music
Cut the music. It's unnecessary and distracting
hopefully level 4 never will be obtained. Why do people keep trying to push the limits of something for no good reason
There is good reason. That AI can be problematic, same as a knife, is not a reason to avoid it.
Technological capability just needs to be matched by superior wisdom.
And these self driving car systems aren't as such capable outside this application and is not a concern for anyone. Other than cab drivers. But same as the internet should not be avoided to help librarians and book printers, so there is great overall advantage in progress.
where are you coming from? we need growth. more Advancement
Christopher Motte If everyone thought like you, we wouldn't have anything you take for granted today. Vehicles, aircraft, computers / internet / telecoms, space exploration, heck even electricity. We'd still be in the Stone Age.
Dude...it’s called evolution.
Don't need the lame Thomas Newman ripoff copy crap music
annoying music
Better than ur
this guy is evil.
Define evil?
i think he has ADHD
This guy is really awkward.
You make comments that have no value.
@@dylliedutch Truth always has value.
@@design7054 it’s your opinion...not truth...and again...there was no value in the statement you made. It was just pointless criticism of someone you’re intimidated by because they’re smarter than you.
@@dylliedutch Ironic post.
@@design7054 except you posted an opinion, not a fact