Healing Antisocial America
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- Friends, a recent article in The Atlantic magazine highlights the crisis of isolation befalling the United States. Americans have never been-or felt-more solitary, especially the younger generations. And the consequences are often fatal: loneliness is a major cause of the recent spikes in depression, anxiety, and suicide, which are at unprecedented levels. Today, we discuss the loss of our social bonds and how Catholic thought can help heal and re-unite us.
A listener asks, given free will, does God know what choices we will make?
00:00 | Intro
01:23 | Bishop Barron’s recent USCCB and diocesan work
02:22 | Why should a person’s chosen isolation matter to anyone else?
04:34 | Individuality vs. the Catholic conception of the individual
09:11 | Distinguishing between solitude and isolation
12:43 | Why in-person communities matter
14:00 | The role of unchosen communities in an individual’s development
16:09 | How to view the company of others
17:34 | Can one adequately substitute animal companionship for community?
22:06 | New media, smart devices, and screen time
26:45 | Advice to encourage more in-person gatherings
27:53 | Listener question
29:32 | Join the Word on Fire Institute
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- “Why Americans Suddenly Stopped Hanging Out” article in The Atlantic: www.theatlantic.com/ideas/arc...
- Screen time stats: www.harmonyhit.com/phone-scre...
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Related to “loneliness”, I met more and more Christians talk about they got ride of LONELINESS when they started to embrace Mary(as our God’s beloved mother) ,and pray Rosary with her daily!
This is amazing fact!
Our Blessed Mother was given to us in God’s plan.
Due to the lack of Mercy towards others, in these times it’s necessary to have a prayer life.
We were taught through our Blessed Mother by our Consecration to Jesus through Mary, the powerful protection keeps the Family grounded by doing the Family Rosary. Have church prayer meetings is a way of getting connected with like minded individuals. 🙏🕊️✝️
I'm feeling such isolation because my siblings and children are living so distant from me and my husband. I think this is a common problem in our country today. No one stays in one place anymore, and families grow apart.
I have to agree…. I love that some families have the gift of living in close proximity to one another.
I was just discussing this very issue with my family. We live in the Amish Country. The Amish don't own or drive automobiles. They only use a horse and buggy. They generally live near their relatives, and visit them on Sunday afternoons. Family is really important to the Amish community in Lancaster County PA.
Hi I understand your misery and suggest that writing emails to them will be an old fashioned way of putting thoughts down and sharing whatever with your dear ones, Good and bad, and care about the people near to you in your daily life
We were forced for 2+ years during covid. For those of us that live alone, it was difficult. My Sunday's were the most difficult. I am grateful for my Catholic community and my family that continued as much as possible to be there then and are so there for me now.
Wishing everyone who reads this comment divine blessings of wealth, health, and happiness. May your life be filled with abundance.
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
@GodsWhisper940 And yours as well, thank you
The lack of young people getting married is also a huge part of this. I wish that was mentioned.
In Ireland, we have perhaps the richest inheritance of Christian community in any Western country, but we are abandoning the foundation of it. It saddens me, and moreso that I have lived long enough to span the richest part of it, and also the insidious infiltration of that isolating lifestyle.
Gregarious celebration of music, dance, the arts, sport has characterised us, along with a respectful instinctive granting of private space.
We also worshipped God together, and we're abandoning that. For me, the isolating drive towards exclusionary internalism, is part of the mechanism that intends to keep us from accessing a solution to it.
Interesting
Ireland abandoned God when it legalized abortion and homosexuality
Fractured Family, lost relationships, and loss of spiritual understanding: that's what causes isolation. And, too much technology.
Not all of us can stomach the vile Christians & pretend there exists a God who makes Mormons so Christians will know how Jews feel. Even Jesus Christ knows; it is a wicked generation seeking signs, such as a resurrection.
I suspect those who spend so much time with their pets may do so because of that unconditional love experience. In a world where so many people experience unkindness and harshness of others, they may retreat to this 'relationship' that will not wound them. It isn't a substitute for human connection, I agree. But we must speak to the deep unkindness, even harshness, that so many sensitive souls experience that pushes them to retreat from the world. And so, we who are 'whole' -at least to the point we are not paralyzed in our ability to socialize-must, Must, practice being incredibly kind, make eye contact, seek the good of the other, at every moment, in every circumstance. We are responsible to heal this broken and lonely world.
..and for autistic people, kindness may 'look like' not looking them in the eyes🙂
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Where'd you got that notion from? Never heard that before.
@@therealongYes, I have heard some autistic people say they feel uncomfortable with eye contact or that they have had to practice making eye contact. It feels too personal and embarrassing, maybe like the other person can see directly into your soul. Not all autistic people are the same. There is a saying, "If you know one autistic person, you know one autistic person." However, it is a very common experience for them.
Beautiful.
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For autistic I tend to consider first of all Down syndrome affected. Perhaps they won't like to be stared in, who would? lol Otherwise it's just to get used to them and vice versa, and let them feel as comfortably and worthy as possible.
Bishop Barron for cardinal.
Pope
Pope. I’ve been thinking this as well…
He’s not old enough yet but once he is…
Naw he’s got things he needs to fix.
Yes! Then eventually maybe even Pope!
Thanks to both of you . I’m very happy that I grew up when I did . Came home from school , threw my books on the dining room table , went outside to play . Period . Sixties and seventies. One phone on the kitchen wall . No call,waiting no caller i . d. I love the internet for many wonderful reasons such as WOF, ect… but there is such a dysfunctional side to it . I feel the pressure on the young kids today, it’s palpable. I also see parents wanting to be “ cool “ to their kids … lots of young parents need to grow up. There is , in my opinion, a lack of social graces and disrespect or disregard to the older generations. I don’t know, just a fraying of civility and depth of character.
My childhood was similar to yours. We had one phone in the kitchen wall. We had one TV in the living room. No cable or satellite dishes back then. Kids actually played outside for hours. We knew everyone in our neighborhood. Moms stayed at home. They were the eyes and ears of the community. Kids were safe and could run around or ride a bike to a friend's house. There were no such things as play dates back in the 60s and 70s. Kids just knocked on doors and played with friends who were at home. Those were happy times.
@@user-ki2vh1uc5k yes , wonderful times for a child . My mom was home , dad was a salesman and optician. Such a different world . A world frankly I don’t care for ..
@@anneturner2759 Today's World is so different. Marriage and family dynamics have changed drastically. As the family goes, so goes the society and nation.
@@user-ki2vh1uc5k I agree ..
It’s not all bad news my kids had a wonderful childhood hear in Australia and now I see them wanting that for their kids,so screen time is limited and needs to be earned, they have family times that includes us grandparents here on the beach,board games,they play sports and the teenagers are expected to get a job around 15. My eldest grandson is asking spiritual questions of me if I find a good podcast relevant to him I send it and we discuss them.🙏I have hope for this young generation.
I leave flyers to encourage my adult children to attend social gatherings at the church to socialize among their age groups and I pray for them.
Matthew, I want to take a moment to express my sincere appreciation for the incredible impact you have had on the WOF show. Your impressive Q&A skills and in-depth knowledge have taken the show to new heights and brought a fresh perspective to the invaluable insights offered by America's greatest Bishop, Bishop Barron. Your excellence is noticed and has undoubtedly contributed to the show's growing success. Know that your contributions are greatly valued, and I look forward to seeing the continued impact you will have on the show and its devoted followers.
I agree that Matthew's doing a great job, but Brandon was (is) no slouch, and I totally enjoyed the show when he was host, too.
I’m 65 and I hadn’t minded being alone as an adult. But now the years of isolation has heaped upon me a deeper depression that I always fought.
I hear you.
New zealands newly elected conservative government has banned cell phones at achool, to stop bullying improve spcial 9nteraction and improve grades . So far, so good.
Seems like a very wise idea. 😊
Look for yourself, and you will find in the long run only hatred, loneliness, despair, rage, ruin, and decay. But look for Christ, and you will find Him, and with Him everything else thrown in. *- C. S. Lewis*
Eventually, yes. But Christians are still in the vale of tears, and we groan in pain along with the severely wounded creation. God may spare us suffering but, as Lewis discovered, often does not.
@@bobtaylor170
Suffering is not without its value though. If Jesus Christ, the Son of God was not spared of suffering and the worst of the kind certainly, then ...
@@marypinakat8594 Oh, yes, of course, you are right. There are too many things in the Bible which are about the value of suffering unto the Lord, the nobility of it, for anyone who is a Christian to allow himself to flirt with "prosperity preachers."
@@bobtaylor170
Is there a contradiction within the text of your own current reply?
@@marypinakat8594 not that I can see. Both are true.
When the Catholic Churches closed for a time I was so grateful for the Masses on line 💕. However, I believe we are in trouble with all the media, finding balance is very difficult especially the youth that doesn’t know any difference. 🙏 pray pray pray
Thank God that I can access Bishop Barron’s high level edifying conversation and thoughts by my I phone. ❤
I'm in my early 20s and we're already seeing a total breakdown of the fabric of society. It's common to know people who don't have a single irl friend and have never dated in their lives. Including some women.
This breakdown has been going on since I was a kid. That's at least forty years ago.
@@debralittle1341 Arrogance knows God & will fervently tell you so.
Wolves in sheep's clothing, speaking to a wicked generation, are known by these works: indoctrinating children with their fantasyland vocabulary.
Yeah it’s always better when the total breakdown of society happens when you’re in your 40s or 50s.
The church is like the state. You enter the workforce & are a subject of a whim of someone above you making billions, untouchables. The video maker can't stand the truth, so he makes up like a wolf in sheep's clothing & sells Jesus, & we know Him by his 2000 years of failure to complete the job.
I think that socially isolated people have always existed. When I was a kid, it was common for kids to form clicks and exclude or even bully those who weren't in their group. I went to Catholic school, and it amazed me that these kids could listen to the gospel about how cruel people were to Jesus during his trials and execution, take Communion, and then turn around and treat their peers with similar derision. Sometimes, unfortunately, even with increased awareness against bullying, kids are often not substantially different today. Now the friendless child at least has social media. Between the addicting nature of it and having learned not to trust in cruel irl relationships, it doesn't surprise me that some people today never form irl bonds.
My time online is precious to me. I share hymns with like-minded people which is joy and I eliminate negativity.
❤❤❤
Totally agree. It started with covid,.when I had to attend mass virtually. You Tube began suggesting incredible content that I might be interested in...such as Bishop Barron and many more. Yes, I probably spend 6 hours online - but never turn the TV on. I have regular channels that I subscribe to, both religious and educational - and I feel they are beneficial. People say get off the screen and read a book or learn a hobby. All good, but my screen time teaches me so much more in 20 minutes than hobbies or reading a book would.
I can see this same conversation happening the generation after the printing press was invented. I grew up in the 60's, and was often told to " get your nose out of that book and go outside and play."
It's much much worse now
Yes, America needs healing and prayer! Thanks for all you do...Blessings!
Arrogance knows God & will fervently tell you so.
Wolves in sheep's clothing, speaking to a wicked generation, are known by these works: indoctrinating children with their fantasyland vocabulary.
One must be insanely arrogant to suggest knowing something of a God. It is by boldness, Moses became the world's worst navigator, by having one foot in some fantasyland. There is a fine line between fishing & standing on the shore, looking like an idiot. Fail to get the Jews to buy it for 2000 years & they should know who their Messiah is. Jesus is a fake, to immortalize the war against the Jews. Jesus Christ is crucified for all time in literature & the subjects of Rome are illiterate. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy" & the joke is in the scriptures. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
An improvement on your God & faith; would outlaw indoctrination & abuse of the vocabulary of fiction on children.
I was shown the sad truth that my Church planned to hurt me no matter what I did. I was even threatened with it at a local eatery.
@@brendamyc3173 See the people you are dealing with, will make up a God & then punish you for heresy, cut you off from speaking blasphemy. You are expected to travel with people with one foot in fantasyland, only pretending an arrival.
At least I can rest assured that Word on Fire donation dollars are not going to questionable research like IVF or promoting secret behind the scenes clerical marriages or supporting the commoditization of women and children. Or the creation of genetically altered human children.
Bishop Barron doesn’t support forced homosexuality on people or making people choose an ideology as a requirement of ordination or of entering religious life. I am glad he doesn’t support the abuse of science and technology to the point of ending human enrichment in working for a living.
Or that he doesn’t support anything heretical or against Catholicism like freemasonry or being controlled by his donors to compromise the Sacraments or contribute to the phenomenon of people not attending mass.
Please pray for Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel
Exposing falsehoods in another religion, and especially from the pulpit, is like provoking to be assaulted. Could he have followed Vatican II's thumbs of rule, I doubt this would have happened.
@@therealong All I said is pray for the Bishop. Do not Condone the attack my friend. His approach may be wrong. Let us pray for him and the attacker.
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Why won't all YT commenters learn to articulate what they write to not having double meanings as for not being misunderstood? It'd just needs 1 extra minute considering all who will read it.
Not doing so it increases the amounts of comments and the time used on a post to both respond and waiting for another response.
While often the main point is never reached:
*Blind Violence entices to blind Violence!*
The church should also be about community; it needs to help young people to meet... and young families to meet... and old people to not be alone. The Catholic Church needs to do MORE to make this happen if it wants to exist into the next century. The mass, tho it has it's good and rightful place and purpose, is not enough to bring people together. It is the Word but not the actions.
Bishop Barron for pope !!
He has to become a Cardinal first but you are on the right track. Wouldn’t that be something?
Very funny
Technically, any Roman Catholic male can be elected pope. But since 1379, every pope has been selected from the College of Cardinals, the group casting the votes at the conclave.
@@MagdusiaPoProstu
Why funny? What's funny?
Andrew Pudewa said in a recent talk that the important thing is to teach children that we tell the computer what to do and don't let the computer tell us what to do. We should use the machines as tools rather than personifying them.
I have a job where I work solo and I’m grateful for programs like this and various long form podcasts (as well as audiobooks) that get me thinking about complex and rich ideas while my body is doing mundane repetitive work. So I’m really grateful. It’s so nice to have enriching programs as opposed to just mindless junk. I think it’s really important for things of substance to have a voice in the spaces of social media, to balance the ecosystem. I know for me anyway it’s a great gift!
I am a middle aged lady but I remember my first time talking to people online at about 9 years old it was the best thing ever. As I speak to you now I can take as much time to develop and share the thought with you. I’m signed up for all of these social activities at the church and very rarely am I able to get in on the conversation and when I do I typically am left with regret. I love to hear them speak though and will keep trying but this is by far my favorite way to communicate and relate.
Just visited South Korea…absolutely amazing culture and people. Experience was like time traveling back to mid 20th century America! Social, vital and clean. Upbeat and relaxed was the vibe. Everyone was pleasant and eager to help…people enjoy their daily lives.
Praise our awesome God!
Thank you for this wonderful talk!
The post-Covid shift to more time wfh is TERRIBLE for society, community, and relationships. For many of us, we're at home all day with just screens and pets.
I do use media and find many fruitful discussions and lectures online. At the same time I cannot socialize online very well. I find there is something bodily that happens when I am actually in the presence of a person. When I go on a zoom call of any kind I am totally missing, that embodied experience of the other person. Pixels are not enough.
Not all of us can stomach the vile Christians & pretend there exists a God who makes Mormons so Christians will know how Jews feel. Even Jesus Christ knows; it is a wicked generation seeking signs, such as a resurrection.
As a Cognitive social sci guy who writes pieces on strategies for building bridges between dichotomous belief groups in a broken world of advancing states of Affective Polarization, I LOVE Bishop Barrons more socio-cultural pieces such as this portends to be. We need all the Godly intercession and advice possible to inform, arm and navigate the current of todays turbulent waters...What Dorothy Day once referred to as the Baptised persons primary modus operandi for "corporal and spiritual acts of Mercy", in our paths and towards this end. Remember Ephesians 6:12: ""...For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places..."
Arrogance knows God & will fervently tell you so.
Wolves in sheep's clothing, speaking to a wicked generation, are known by these works: indoctrinating children with their fantasyland vocabulary.
We had Moses: World's worst navigator, by faith in God, thinking we all would travel well with one foot in a Garden of Eden.
The value of adventure calls one to put down the screens.
With all do respect to you Bishop you are addressing symptom not the cause. The reason why catholic social teaching falls on the deaf ears is because we make are children " deaf " , atomization of society all around the world comes from children emotional dysregulation, and children emotional dysregulation comes from pathological families, and pathological family comes from denying "theology of Body " ergo sexual revolution
Good stuff. In the 80s and 90s, I felt brutally lonely...now its catching on everywhere like a fever. We need more pod casts like this, and need to take on this issue in all aspects, government, church etc. All hail fellowship!
Anxiety ( Mental health) could be treatable. Just need love and mercy with the patient who has this issue.Pray, pray and pray and a lot of passion when taking care of! ❤❤ ❤
Sometimes overwhelming, with God’s grace will bare with it!
Thank you Lord and Bishop Barron!
Thank you very much for the prerogatives Bishop Barron bless you 🙏🏻
In addition to the argument brought forward it could be said that electronic media has raised the bar in some aspects that people feel disappointed when they go to a social gathering. For example, many of us follow Bishop Barron's Sunday homilies that are on steroids, but when going to Church, the presiding priest has little to share. Other examples relate to culture: there are sites where the presentations are far superior to what is to be got in person. Indeed, it is becoming a challenge to discern what is worthwhile watching on the screen versus going out among people, when disagreements can spoil your day.
I really enjoy this new in person conversational forum. I used to listen to the podcast but now I enjoy watching the show on UA-cam
I am 28, married with a child in the suburbs close to my hometown & I definitely struggle with loneliness. All my good friends moved away & I struggle to make friends locally. I am also shy which doesn’t help. I am trying to put myself out there but it can be difficult to find time to even hang out bc we are all so busy all the time.
We have a major problem in society when a dog is more important than a human regardless of the quality of human relationships. I think it’s very dangerous to lose proper perspective with our pets technology whatever. Some people are introverted by nature. I don’t believe it’s an excuse to hide away and use all these things as crutches and believe we are living as God wants us to live. A lot of us need to look into why we can have such compassion for an animal and not a human being made in the image of God. That’s the challenge. God says love your neighbor as yourself NOT love your dog as yourself But are we trying to be the light be saints I believe we need to make ourselves uncomfortable to grow We all need to be courageous myself included.
My kids left the Catholic Church and two of my grandchildren aren’t even Baptized. My daughter belongs to some other church and one of my sons told me that I forced them to be Catholic. If I had been Baptist, Lutheran, even Mormon that’s how I would have raised them. How can I not raise them in the faith that I am?
I think it all start in one's family. If you come from a good family you are more likely to socialize with others and establish good relationships.
Arrogance knows God & will fervently tell you so.
Wolves in sheep's clothing, speaking to a wicked generation, are known by these works: indoctrinating children with their fantasyland vocabulary.
I became a parent a couple of years ago and I've noticed that almost every other parent I've seen in public (outside of Catholic circles) seems to park their kid in front of their phone or tablet and just has them watch nonstop videos to keep them pacified so they can either get something done like grocery shopping or simply so they can be on their own phones doing much the same. I think GenX was the last somewhat normal generation. Us millennials know that we are socially awkward because we observed our boomer parents interact pre-internet, but GenZ and Alpha are strangely confident in themselves despite being even more socially awkward. I think because their parents were glued to their phones and more socially isolated.
If you come from a broken family you are automatically hard pressed to succeed in a culture of that’s your problem.
@@brendamyc3173That is true but also being in a group today is difficult. For example, if you are in a group of women you may receive text after text after text...and if you use your phone for work then it is really hard because every time a message comes through you have to check on your phone. I would say please take me off the group chat or I would start deleting people on my phone.
Bishop we spend time listening your great programs and topic via social media. What are we talking about it?
Get the culture of parishes that are anti social to engage with each other and empower the youth.
We need to develop group support back to the parishes so people know each other.
It seems light-hearted social events bring others together. People are more likely to feel comfortable in a setting where they can cut loose, which enables good social connections.
Maybe the crisis is that no one knows how to be alone, which ultimately you are. Alone = Still. Still = God.
Always fascinating!
A family that prays together, stays together..Father Patrick Peyton. It doesn't have to be the Rosary, short prayers in the dining area, cafeteria,offices.. almost anywhere will do,God bless Word on Fire
From Miami, FL! 🙌🏻🔥
Bishop Barron is such an intelligent academician that I do believe it's difficult for him to come down and empathize with the problems of the common man. Quoting great saints & philosophers does nothing to reduce loneliness or find solutions for such. Suggesting that liturgical music and the beauty of Catholic cathedrals is what will draw the masses in for socializing is such an antiquated solution that is not only incredibly sad, but incredibly frustrating.
I really prefer not to socialize. It's overwhelming
i really want to socialize but i feel like i dont have the mental capacity to interact
Society has turned human interaction into spiritual abuse and cruelty. They also expect you to stand there and take it with a smile. You are also not allowed to defend yourself in any way, nor are you allowed to explain the situation or your actions. People are expected to be positive even if they are being killed inside. The daily activities become nothing but pain. People are being taught to deliver such cruelty and laugh at the person they are hurting. So, people avoid human interaction as much as possible in such a society.
That doesn’t make you anti social. You’re an introvert. Big deal.
See, complete disregard.
One must be insanely arrogant to suggest knowing something of a God. It is by boldness, Moses became the world's worst navigator, by having one foot in some fantasyland. There is a fine line between fishing & standing on the shore, looking like an idiot. Fail to get the Jews to buy it for 2000 years & they should know who their Messiah is. Jesus is a fake, to immortalize the war against the Jews. Jesus Christ is crucified for all time in literature & the subjects of Rome are illiterate. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy" & the joke is in the scriptures. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
An improvement on your God & faith; would outlaw indoctrination & abuse of the vocabulary of fiction on children.
We have this problem in Pamplona,Spain too.😮😢
Winona/Rochester church, kudos to you for trying to create events. I wonder if going directly to the kids/parents and asking them to bring their playgroups to the church, or open them up to the church.... the same with intramural sports for kids. As a young mother I started up a Mom's Club that attracted over 150 moms inside of three years. Right now in my hometown, a group called "The Newcomers Club" has over 130 members... they sponsor events like card groups (Canasta, Sumba, Mahjongg, etc), walking groups, lunch groups, craft groups, sewing groups - including one that makes receiving blankets and quilts for babies, etc, etc... Note: The Moms Club even has a booklet online on how to get a group started. Our Moms Club group started small... my friend and I, then 12 people at the first meeting, 25 people by the end of the year - but it grew quite big, very quickly.
Im surrounded by hundreds of people and im all alone. Were im from there is no parish life.
Find it. Consider: if there is a Protestant church in the vicinity which is serious, and which teaches the Bible, give it a chance. If anyone asks, and they will, tell them you're Catholic. I assure you that they'll be glad to have you with them. Here are some churches I can vouch for, though not always! The rot is widespread within Protestantism, too. But consider:
1. Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod.
2. Presbyterian Church in America.
3. Anglican Church in North America.
4. Southern Baptist Convention.
There may be some excellent if rather small Wesleyan churches in your area. And however strange they may seem to you, do not dismiss non - denominational "Bible" churches.
I'm sure you have the good sense to avoid ( or walk out of ) churches which have big electronic screens and stupid, maddening "music."
I can't speak for the Southern Baptists, but the first three denominations have online "church finders." Consider going to them.
If you're an ardent, traditional Catholic, there almost certainly are others like you in the vicinity. Consider putting cards on bulletin boards at places like Whole Foods, cards which state in brief detail the sort of person you are, and that you would like to organize a prayer, Bible study, and fellowship group.
Maybe there is an Eastern Orthodox church in your vicinity. Don't give up. And ask God to lead you!!
I love the whole doctrine of the Mystical Body of Christ. Thank you for such a balanced discussion. +
Thank you BB
Not all of us can stomach the vile Christians & pretend there exists a God who makes Mormons so Christians will know how Jews feel. Even Jesus Christ knows; it is a wicked generation seeking signs, such as a resurrection.
"All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.
With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them.
For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need." (Acts 4: 32-35) ... to each according to each's needs.
Barron and friend ignore the elephant in the room: the means of production have changed: less union factory jobs, less public education, less church participation, and less government infrastructure mean more individualism and isolation. The agricultural era in villages had to unite to control nature. The industrial era worked by the standardization and synchronization of the factory with social opportunities in urban areas. Now with digital production, service jobs done remotely, people do not come in contact with each other as much. This ordeal of change is analogous to the Industrial Revolution when people suffered hardships such as a filthy environment, child labor and cholera. We need reform of society. And this will come by a new philosophy of life, a new metaphysics, new ground rules. Could the church help? yes. But the only thing that can produce meaningful change on a scale necessary is an FDR New Deal type program. People need to feel a part of something, secular as well as sectarian.
It’s not just the young… I’m almost 76 and have depression that a lot of the time keeps me away from things that I really enjoy doing like making Rosaries at my parish weekly. I hate to blame COVID and the lockdown but I used to go every week before that. I don’t even go to Adoration anymore.
Bishop Barron is my intellectual hero and I have learned so much from him online, but I have come to believe that those that use social media platforms need to accept the fact that you can’t have it both ways. You have to take more responsibility for keeping people “hooked” on social media. Yes, this is really an issue of people having the discernment to differentiate between quality content vs garbage, but as stated in the podcast, we are dealing with something highly addictive.
I see extreme arrogance & bling for illiterate people.
New York times posted an article in the 1990s about computers and kids usage. Would be the demise of users become totally separated from society. Noted was computer time is addictive, as kids attached use the computer struggle with communicate and become introverts.. my term of explanation. I was always impressed to see this unfold to here we are today... people young and old unable to commune with each other... as a retired music teacher I saw this throughput my career... those students involved with playing an instrument taking s break from the computer or phone. Were more successful in public settings..
Communication technology is unlike other technologies. Like the printing press, the computer is changing every aspect of society... politics, religion, science, literature, art... everything.
The title of this video is "Healing Antisocial America" yet, as is typical of Catholic scholarly commentary, there is an abundance of diagnosis but little or no prognosis. This conversation said nothing about "healing antisocial America." Very typical is stating statistics and discussing the cause and disparity of the situation the statistics represent, but nothing in regard to any suggested solution. As a Catholic scholar myself, I have read many essays on various issues within the faith as well as the human condition in general. The issues are well documented with no suggestions to address the them. When I clicked on this video I fully expected what I found and described above.
Don't get me wrong, I have the greatest respect for Bishop Baron and have used much of his teachings and commentary in my own small group discussions.
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I gave up UA-cam and social media for lent, and I didn't realize how much time I was wasting until lent was over and I started using UA-cam again.
I don’t think people are screwed up by social media. Everyone needs a spiritual advisor.
I would say that it would be better to distinguish between the person and the individual, so that I am a person in community, rather than an individual within society. I would also contrast the collective, which found its expression both in Soviet collectivism and I would argue, the collectivism that you find it certain expressions of capitalism. In both the individual becomes a cog in the machinery of either the collective or the factory.
So the real goal is a kind of personalism as opposed to individualism, because we are persons in community.
St.Pope John Paul II spoke about the 'person' in his writings, and of course he spoke about the whole person soul and mind and body, one in Spirit, as Jesus and The Father and the Spirit are one.
The word 'individual' , especially here in the U.S., is closely related to what Americans think the Constitution means. It has evolved into connotations of political, social, economic, technological, and media influences, thereby taking the 'person' out of the individual. Maybe Bishop Barron can explore the writings of St. Pope John Paul II.
Praise strangers it can be the lifesaver they need
Kind of a painful topic. Yet Jesus calls us into communion with himself and with others. 👍
Is it coincidence that we now have the first adult generation that was raised by parent surrogates of all sorts? Not only electronic devices, but daycare, babysitters, parades of afterschool activities, and videos. My generation (Baby Boom) had political (feminist) reasons for not doing what they were supposed to do (care for their offspring) and seem to be surprised that this has had anything to do with their offspring's health, both mental and physical. And Bishop Barron should be Pope.
Good points. Though I personally hope BB is never elected pope. While I think he'd do a fantastic job, I doubt he'd be able to continue with WOF.☹️
Apparently it seems that he is contributing to the problem.
People dont even have to see each other in stores...they can buy online, and many do. If you go to a store, many of them have self-checkouts.....you dont even have to interact with a human. When you drive through a housing development, where are the kids who used to play in the yards and where are the basketball hoops? In the 40s and 50s, people had 4 or 5 kids and tiny 3-bedroom homes. Now people have huge houses and maybe 1 or 2 kids.
The elementary school I went to as a kid in late 50s had a large paved playground we were turned loose on for an hour after lunch. The school supplied jump ropes and balls. There were hop scotch squares painted on the pavement. You picked a bunch of kids doing something you liked and joined them. Kids made the rules and kids enforced them. The elementary school still stands, but the playground was swallowed up by a large addition to the school.
What is it about humans that, if given a choice, we stay away from each other?
The individualism of Thoreau and Emerson is not the "individualism" of Reagan. We inherited Reagan, not the Transcendentists.
Covid worsened lonliness. I lost several family and friends during this time.
I am a parent and have allowed my children controlled (i'm quite technical) access to their own phones to watch youtube kids or find games to play since as young as they can hold them... the delight with which they react to any better activity like going to the playground, church, an invitation to do colouring in together, dinner etc. they immediately put their phone down. I can't help but feel it's bit like the mice with nothing good doing more drugs in that experiment. If the phone is the best thing in their life, then that's not the phone's fault. It speaks to their whole life, world view etc. Currently both their phones are on my desk and haven't been used for 4 or 5 days, they haven't wanted them. Indeed, addiction to these devices is a symptom of a lack elsewhere in the psyche. I'm pretty sure.
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It’s good to hear non controversial stuff……controversy is like a drug and I’ve got lots of “dealers”
Yes! We each have our own responsibility to limit screen time, and especially that of our children; Do as I do, not just do as I say. But in addition, the church has a responsibility to help create opportunities for TRUE integration among the faithful. Not JUST the mass, which is essentially a lecture, but true opportunities for people to meet and interact. WHAT a blessing that would be; truly God's work. ONLY offering the mass is like doing the bare minimum that Jesus asked the apostles to do.
I'd recommend "Alienated America" by Tim Carney.
I’m 53 years old and an Introvert. I don’t enjoy a lot of socializing and, especially, don’t enjoy a lot at my parish. I pick and choose what I do with my time and how a use it.
Don’t force people like me to socialize and be extroverted. All that will do is make me angry!
I think you guys are spot-on here at 9:11 or so. I withdraw to pray, just as the Lord did and told us to do. Scripture reads "When you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in secret ; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly." (Matthew 6) It says the Lord withdrew to pray in the beginning of his ministry: "Now in the morning, having risen a long while before daylight, He went out and departed to a solitary place; and there He prayed. And Simon and those who were with Him searched for Him. When they found Him, they said to Him, “Everyone is looking for You.” But He said to them, “Let us go into the next towns, that I may preach there also, because for this purpose I have come forth.”" (Mark 1).
It also says in Luke 6 when he selected The Twelve he went to a mountain to pray, and even spent all night in prayer (I remember being daunted when I first read that). And in the Garden of Gethsemane the Lord told the disciples to sit "here" while he went and prayed "over there" (Matthew 26). Maybe the counterbalance is what Paul writes to Timothy about prayers to be made for all people everywhere (1 Tim 2), and the implication of praying corporately when we do it.
I really hope the bishop is talking about people who call half the country "deplorables" for not wanting to vote on them....
Prayer removed from USA schools i 1962. It takes 4 generation to breed out a behavioural characteristic and the results are demonstrable. As the 10 commanmenrs are no longer the basis of community life. Love thy neighbour . Visit the sick and the widowed and the new born. Till death us do part. Etc .
With all due respect, the removal of prayer from public schools has surely had an impact, but the Baptism rite clearly states to parents, "You will be the FIRST and BEST teachers of your children in the faith. Do you clearly understand what you are undertaking?" At the end of the day, it is the PARENTS' responsibility to teach their children the faith, including the things you have mentioned, not the state. Too many parents do not take their responsibility seriously enough. My sister sent her kids to Catholic school and thinks she fulfilled her Baptismal promises to them. But she never took them to church or talked with them about the faith or lived the faith herself. Today none of her now-adult kids are practicing Catholics, and she herself only attends Mass on Christmas Eve. The home is the domestic church, and what happens in the family matters more than prayer in public schools. (Just another view to consider...)
@@sandyv2195I'm Protestant, and I agree with you.
One of the ways I explain the social nature of humans is by saying, “We’re not sea turtles!” The only contact that sea turtles have with a parent is when the mother lays her eggs in the sand of the beach - that’s it. A newly born human baby is not told as s/he emerges from the womb, “Off you go! Get yourself somewhere to live and get yourself a job!” Even to become a hermit, you are totally dependent on having been nurtured and the human community to learn the essential skills for survival. And even hermits are affected by climate change and the passing human who is infected by COVID.
Not all of us can stomach the vile Christians & pretend there exists a God who makes Mormons so Christians will know how Jews feel. Even Jesus Christ knows; it is a wicked generation seeking signs, such as a resurrection.
Smartphone is telephone, computer, television, movie watching, calculator, games, news, library, etc....when we criticize it's overuse do we factor in how much it REPLACES?
It seems Things are not neutral that can be used for good or bad. Things are good and can be used for their purpose/used to be fufilled or they can be distorted and used as a means of death/sin/error
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I'm a social butterfly and I did not let COVID stop that. Nor did anyone around me die because of it.
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I hate people today. Like people might know the real me but I do hear people these days.
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@22:53 I am undoubtedly an internet addict. However, I was clinically depressed before I was introduced to the internet. When I started using it obsessively, yes, it may have contributed to my depression. Again however, I was depressed before that. So this sounds more like a chicken and the egg argument to me. Although I know that personally, my clinical depression came before the internet.
My daughter has step family..totally ignore her..they r older 10 years..she's depressed..counseling hasn't worked
Do you need someone to translate the subtitles in brazilian portuguese? I voluunter 😁 This bishop is so reasonable...
The holy Spirit of God is intoxicating letting the His Spirit out of the cage of our control would bring more to the table of the Lord.!
1. What is wrong with the Second Vatican Council?
The Second Vatican Council taught doctrines which had been already condemned by the Church, and enacted disciplines which are contrary to the Church's teaching and constant practice.
2. What doctrines did it teach which were already condemned?
There are four major errors concerning: (1) the unity of the Church; (2) ecumenism; (3) religious liberty; (4) collegiality.
3. What false doctrine does it teach concerning the unity of the Church?
Vatican II teaches heresy concerning the unity of the Church, namely that the Church of Christ is not exclusively identified with the Catholic Church, but merely subsists in it. This heretical doctrine is contained principally in Lumen Gentium, and its heretical meaning is confirmed in statements of Paul VI and his successors, particularly in the 1983 Code of Canon Law, in the 1992 Statement concerning Church and Communion, and in the Ecumenical Directory.
It is contrary to the teaching of the Catholic Church, contained principally in Satis Cognitum of Pope Leo XIII, Mortalium Animos of Pope Pius XI, Mystici Corporis of Pope Pius XII, and in the condemnations of the "Branch Theory" made by the Holy Office under Pope Pius IX.
4. What false doctrine does it teach concerning ecumenism?
The teaching of Vatican II concerning ecumenism, which states that non-Catholic religions are a "means of salvation," is overtly heretical. This doctrine directly contradicts the teaching of the Church that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, called by Pope Pius IX "a most well-known Catholic dogma." In addition, the ecumenical practices which have resulted from this heretical doctrine are directly contrary to Mortalium Animos of Pope Pius XI.
5. What false doctrine does it teach concerning religious liberty?
The teaching of Vatican II on religious liberty, contained in Dignitatis Humanae, nearly word for word asserts the very doctrine which was condemned by Pope Pius VII in Post Tam Diuturnas, by Pope Gregory XVI in Mirari Vos, by Pope Pius IX in Quanta Cura, and by Pope Leo XIII in Libertas Praestantissimum. The teaching of Vatican II on religious liberty also contradicts the royalty of Jesus Christ in society as expressed in Quas Primas of Pope Pius XI, and the constant attitude and practice of the Church with regard to civil society.
6. What false doctrine does it teach concerning collegiality?
The teaching of Vatican II concerning collegiality alters the monarchical constitution of the Catholic Church, with which she was endowed by the Divine Savior. The doctrine of Vatican II, confirmed by the 1983 Code of Canon Law, which states that the subject (the possessor) of the supreme authority of the Church is the college of bishops together with the pope, is contrary to the defined doctrine of the Council of Florence and of Vatican I.
7. What is wrong with the disciplines which have emanated from Vatican II?
The 1983 Code of Canon Law contains the heresy of Vatican II concerning the Church, mentioned above. It also permits sacrilege to the Blessed Sacrament, by approving of its reception by non-Catholics, which is a mortal sin, and permits communicatio in sacris (common public worship) with non-Catholics, which is a mortal sin. In addition, the Ecumenical Directory of 1993 permits ecumenical practices which have always been taught by the Church to be mortally sinful.
Off topic what is Brandon Voght doing now after he retired from being the host of the word on fire does anyone know? Btw Dr Matthew is doing a great job just wondering about Brandon thats all
Brandon is still with WOF but has moved over to the publishing side of the house (I think it is). He addressed it at the end of his last show with BB a few weeks ago.
@sandyv2195 That's great thanks
Screen time explosion comes from child englect in the frist 3 years and most of it is in first 1 year. Evil of daycare or aupair
You talk about in-service gatherings organised by the parish. The people running these I RUN AWAY FORM THEM. The activities organised? PEOPLE RUN AWAY FROM (BORING) And the places ? Ugly n clinical. It is no wonder the same few individuals feel pressurised to attend and their faces show it. I WON'T GO NEAR THE LOCAL CHURCH except for the 30min (max!!!!!!! sadly) on a Sunday. To be honest , I get more from my screen.
Maybe people like you need to get *more* involved if the community isn't what you want it to be. When you abdicate responsibility, someone else will step in.
@@joe42m13 I followed my Father and tried to propose in the parish council, when I joined, a different way (most, all? were of my Da's age !!) but like my Da, I left too after been side-lined, with the most angelic if not sanctimonious smiles. Dad left demoralised. I did not wait around too long. I am not kidding you but some are still ensconced in the parish council 50years later. One died last month so.....?
@declancooney1029 very sorry to hear about your experience. Unfortunately not all parishes welcome new ideas. My own parish in the U.S. has a high degree of member turnover due to our location, i.e. many universities and students who eventually move on, medical professionals completing residencies, business people taking promotions elsewhere, etc. It's a good thing as it keeps things at the parish fresh. But I can totally see how the opposite could also happen in areas where there's less human mobility. Is it possible for you to attend a different, more dynamic parish nearby perhaps?
I am in huge psychological suffering as a 66 solo all my life plus not anglo saxon and now entered Catholicism. The churches are highly cliquiish and antisocial to those who are not part of their cliques. So as much as I respect what Bishop Baron is saying and certainly agree with him but catholic churches today highly cliquish and insular. They reach out to their own married clans family and other friends who are married clans and family. Unlike non-catholic churches, they do not welcome make newer folks feel welcomed -- perhaps that's not in their philosophy anymore - No coffee time after Mass .
Just keep making sure they are preaching to families to make sure they're having children. So their church can go on in fact a very nice priest told me that very frankly. Truth and intent are not a match anymore. Catholic Church needs to stop thinking they're high-and-mighty and superior and look deeply within themselves and the community they're creating. It is clannish and exclusive and critical of all that is not Catholic which is not what Jesus Christ was about at least to me as a newer Catholic.
Fortunately, my closer ties with Christian religion are those in Christ based non Catholic communities - In my opinion, they re walking much closer to Jesus Christ in actions and always im the word. As a Catholic, I do attend Mass regularly.
It is love hate, I wouldn't know about this topic unless I knew about the 😂b
Bishop. Technology in moderation.
Teaching children to go and help others, care n interaction with nature, motivation to do good, accentuate the beauty, the positive attitude within themselves, affirming them that they are loved and God with all his angels love, watch over them, are their best allies because the devil and his agents are like roaring lions looking for lonely n troubled souls to devour !😊! As Catholics he is our #1 enemy all he wants isour downfall!!! St John Paul 2 said:"When you feel lonely go and visit someone who is lonelier than yourself. " PRAYER IS POWER. TEACH THEM TO PRAY USING JESUS NAME. SATAN FLEES WHEN JESUS NAME IS ON OUR LIPS N IN OUR HEARTS ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. ST IRENAEUS:"THE GLORY OF GOD IS THE HUMAN PERSON FULLY ALIVE" N IN TUNE WITH ALL THAT IS BEAUTIFUL, WHOLESOME N DIGNIFIED. CHEER UP LOVELY ONES WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO HEAVEN WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!! ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS LET'S RID THE WORLD OF NEGATIVITY. Love and God bless.
Antisocial is a personality disorder it’s not someone who keeps to themselves. Be responsible and stop conflating the two.
I agree. The genes and the environment, I think, contributes alot to this disorder.
@@geoffreyk6229 Arrogance knows God & will fervently tell you so.
Wolves in sheep's clothing, speaking to a wicked generation, are known by these works: indoctrinating children with their fantasyland vocabulary.
Yes, there is a difference between being antisocial and a-social.